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Post by markscfc72 on Mar 5, 2010 19:40:58 GMT
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stokiehan
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Post by stokiehan on Mar 5, 2010 19:44:13 GMT
Good to see his recognition for Glenn and our medical team.
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Post by hitman on Mar 5, 2010 19:45:38 GMT
nice of him give special praise to glenn whelan, the bloke deserves a medal for the way he comforted ramsey as his own teammates went crying to the ref
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Post by theboyadfaye25 on Mar 5, 2010 19:47:29 GMT
Glad for Whelan his name is mentioned, top man!
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Post by scfcrob on Mar 5, 2010 19:50:38 GMT
Well Done Aaron. Great to hear him recognise Stoke.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 5, 2010 19:54:44 GMT
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Post by actongatestokie on Mar 5, 2010 20:01:07 GMT
To be totally fair FullerMagic, they are right. It is a snub and a massive kick in the balls to Shawcross.
At the very least, we could have had a "I know he didn't mean it" type.
For me, that is a very disappointing and equally disturbing statement from Ramsey. I know he's not going to be over the moon with Shawcross but bloody hell fire, it WAS an accident for christ sake.
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Post by stokecity1986 on Mar 5, 2010 20:02:06 GMT
good on Glen Whelan being mentioned
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 5, 2010 20:04:16 GMT
To be totally fair FullerMagic, they are right. It is a snub and a massive kick in the balls to Shawcross. At the very least, we could have had a "I know he didn't mean it" type. For me, that is a very disappointing and equally disturbing statement from Ramsey. I know he's not going to be over the moon with Shawcross but bloody hell fire, it WAS an accident for christ sake. I agree, acton. But I suppose when his vile manager is trying to paint Shawcross as the villain of the piece, it cuts out his room for maneuver in any statement.
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Post by actongatestokie on Mar 5, 2010 20:08:16 GMT
To be totally fair FullerMagic, they are right. It is a snub and a massive kick in the balls to Shawcross. At the very least, we could have had a "I know he didn't mean it" type. For me, that is a very disappointing and equally disturbing statement from Ramsey. I know he's not going to be over the moon with Shawcross but bloody hell fire, it WAS an accident for christ sake. I agree, acton. But I suppose when his vile manager is trying to paint Shawcross as the villain of the piece, it cuts out his room for maneuver in any statement. I agree there fella. I'm totally distraught at that statement to be fair. Infact, i'm totally fucked off with it. It really is classless compared to the Rory Delap leg break, where both player and manager were out in a matter of days saying that it was "just one of those things" - despite it being a far worse, studs up tackle. Yet again, for the umpteenth time in god knows how many days i'm speechless. Can this god forsaken game get any worse, and more "up itself" if it tried? What happened to the mans game we grew up watching?
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Post by serpico on Mar 5, 2010 20:08:35 GMT
To be totally fair FullerMagic, they are right. It is a snub and a massive kick in the balls to Shawcross. At the very least, we could have had a "I know he didn't mean it" type. For me, that is a very disappointing and equally disturbing statement from Ramsey. I know he's not going to be over the moon with Shawcross but bloody hell fire, it WAS an accident for christ sake. It's also interesting that Pulis refused to comment on how well received their wishes of support for Ramsey were . I might be reading too much into it though .
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 5, 2010 20:09:01 GMT
Aaron is facing one threat to his career from the leg break - the last thing he wants is another threat to his career from a paranoid manager who would not thank him for giving any kind of understanding comments to Ryan.
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Post by lordeffinghamhunt on Mar 5, 2010 20:10:23 GMT
He can't really say Ryan didn't mean it. After what Wenger said this would make his qunt of a manager look very hypocritical
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Post by ted1965 on Mar 5, 2010 20:13:14 GMT
Glad he has acknowledged Glenn because there certainly wasn't any comfort or help coming from his team mates. As for Ryan well sadly it's not unexpected at least he didn't say anything bad about him either.
I think Wenger's statement underneath prevents any comments by Ramsey accepting that Ryan didn't mean to hurt him.
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Post by snapotter on Mar 5, 2010 20:15:40 GMT
It is about what I expected.
He was hardly going to contradict his manager's response to the incident in an official statement. It would just make Wenger look even more of a fool (if possible).
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Post by jen on Mar 5, 2010 20:18:43 GMT
To be totally fair FullerMagic, they are right. It is a snub and a massive kick in the balls to Shawcross. At the very least, we could have had a "I know he didn't mean it" type. For me, that is a very disappointing and equally disturbing statement from Ramsey. I know he's not going to be over the moon with Shawcross but bloody hell fire, it WAS an accident for christ sake. Agree completely.
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Post by northstokie on Mar 5, 2010 20:21:52 GMT
Disappointed with this, even after a week of reflection he could have just put it to bed but he has let it run even further..
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Post by hudson2greenhoff on Mar 5, 2010 20:22:09 GMT
Yeah! nice to see Glenn get some deserved credit for his assistance. The Arsenal PR team have probably edited out "although my own team were too busy remonstrating with the officials to be arsed about one of their own lying on the turf with broken leg".
Not really surprised that Ryan being blameless and the incident being an accident was mentioned as that would contravene the words of Arsene Wenger.
Lets face it, these words are for the eyes of the Arsenal fans, (and have probably been translated into god knows how many languages) and not for us Stokies.
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Post by hchpotter on Mar 5, 2010 20:22:22 GMT
No mention of Ryan's remorse, No mention of the lack of malice or intent. No mention of Ryan's texts or attempts to visit him. This statement was drafted by lawyers with the sole aim of keeping alive a legal attack in the unfortunate event that Ramsey finds he can't get back into an Arsenal team that he's played for a dozen times. A cynical but unsurprising statement. Twat.
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Post by stokiehan on Mar 5, 2010 20:25:11 GMT
We'll never get the truth of how the players feel out of Arsenal. When Eduardo broke his leg Wenger came out and said Taylor had apologised and the months later Eduardo claimed that Taylor had never visited him and never apologised.
I would never listen to a word that club have to say. We know how sorry Shawcross will be and if they don't want to recognise that then so be it. We don't need their approval, even though it would be nice to see it.
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Post by stokie25 on Mar 5, 2010 20:30:33 GMT
I'm absolutely astounded he doesn't comment on the tackle given the benefit of a replayed video. Glenn WAS an incredible asset to him at his most vulnerable time (when his team mates chose to abandon him) but not to vindicate ryan smacks of a scripted statement to me Aaron is very young and easily influenced, given that he wants a postive career to look forward to. The best Ramsey take on this will be when the youngster least expects the question watch this space
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Post by padders01 on Mar 5, 2010 20:32:24 GMT
I agree, acton. But I suppose when his vile manager is trying to paint Shawcross as the villain of the piece, it cuts out his room for maneuver in any statement. I agree there fella. I'm totally distraught at that statement to be fair. Infact, i'm totally fucked off with it. It really is classless compared to the Rory Delap leg break, where both player and manager were out in a matter of days saying that it was "just one of those things" - despite it being a far worse, studs up tackle. Yet again, for the umpteenth time in god knows how many days i'm speechless. Can this god forsaken game get any worse, and more "up itself" if it tried? What happened to the mans game we grew up watching? actongate, that's excatly how I feel
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 5, 2010 20:44:52 GMT
Ramsey is a complete knob imo. He is the one person who could have got Ryan completely exonerated by admitting to his own contribution to the "accident". Instead he decides to hide behind his appreciation of Glen and Stoke City. I did have sympathy for him last weekend but not anymore....he is just another piece of arsenal shit and a complete turd imo.
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Post by TheBra1n on Mar 5, 2010 20:47:04 GMT
he did refer to it as a collision which is much more like and accidental injury than a foul or even a takle
to my mind the word collision infers that it was accidental
source wikipedia
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Post by dibdab on Mar 5, 2010 20:51:56 GMT
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Mar 5, 2010 20:58:09 GMT
Fucking hell, chill out guys.
Lets not forget Ramsey is 19 years old, he can hardly be expected to be in the media sucking the cock of a guy who broke his leg in half 6 days ago, accident, collision or whatever you want to call it. I know at that age I'd still be pissed off even in the knowledge it was a misfortune. Calling him a cunt etc is way over the top and I must say a lot of you seem to very easily say you'd brush it off if it were your leg hanging off, whereas you hit the fucking roof about a guy just choosing, fairly diplomatically in my opinion, to keep his gob shut about a rather emotive matter.
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Post by wigginbird on Mar 5, 2010 20:59:32 GMT
Reads like its been writen for him by Pravada
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Post by stokie25 on Mar 5, 2010 21:01:31 GMT
exactly dave
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 5, 2010 21:01:55 GMT
Sorry this is complete bollox. It still puts the blame on Ryan imo. It was not a tackle but a collision.Both were going for the ball, Ryan legitimately, ramsey both feet off the ground. Ramsey is an imbecile for not telling the truth of how it was and arse players are still singing of wingers hymn sheet. Fuckwits the lot of them.
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 5, 2010 21:31:30 GMT
Ramsey is a complete knob imo. He is the one person who could have got Ryan completely exonerated by admitting to his own contribution to the "accident". Instead he decides to hide behind his appreciation of Glen and Stoke City. I did have sympathy for him last weekend but not anymore....he is just another piece of arsenal shit and a complete turd imo. But not a big as knob as you mate. 19 year old lad has his leg shattered and must have his head in a spin wondering if he is going to play again. Knuckle dragging morons like you expect him to come out with words supporting the bloke who did it. YES IT WAS A FREAK ACCIDENT but the lad wouldn't be human if he didn't have a bad thought about the perpetrator of the challenge. On the whole I think it is good statement from the lad who wants to put the incident behind him and concentrate on getting fit again. Cue some moronic fuckwitted bellend saying his leg was broken before the tackle or it was his own fault.
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