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Post by greyman on Feb 14, 2019 10:08:19 GMT
OK it was Daftbugger first then you chipped in with this absolutely fabricated nonsense "Discussing with my son this morning. It is really apparent how much of this has to do with Pulis still for some people. They'll never let it go. They're not the Taliban. They're Hiroo Onoda. " Utter diversionary steaming bullshit! Which I said AFTER you'd brought Pulis into it with the tedious Pulista / Wankstain thing. Anyway go take one of your HRT pills and come back with an answer to the question of who said 'goals don't matter'.
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Post by greyman on Feb 14, 2019 10:01:07 GMT
I've just read back on this thread and who was it who first raised the whole 'Pulis Hating Wankstain' thing? That'll be you. So in fact you brought it up. You did. Hope that's clear. But then again, I can prove anything with facts. PS. You still haven't answered my question about who said 'goals don't matter'. Should be easy enough to answer seeing as you brought that up as well as the subject of Pulis. My God! I've seen some history re-writes but never in this short space of time! It was you, YOU, who brought up Pulis with some weird obsessive association between people who are a bit pissed off with Jones shot shy bollocks and Pulis. Any subsequent Pulis discussion has been prompted by that and only that! Check again. And answer the question.
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Post by greyman on Feb 14, 2019 9:52:59 GMT
Nobody is raising Pulis except for those who judge every manager against him, including by inventing their own facts and people like you and the whole boring 'wankstain/Pulista' thing. And in fact you've just done it yet again. If we can agree on one thing it is that we need to judge Nathan Jones on his own terms and over a period of time. That might include judging him on the same 'utter shite' he is churning out, notice that it's the same shite as all our other recent managers and conclude that the problems run much deeper than the bloke in the dugout. I bet we agree on that too. You're the only bloke I've seen bring the fucker up in months! It's you who is frigging obsessed! Yes we do agree but this board is chock full of Scholes & Cartwright apologists as well so fuck knows where that leaves us?! I've just read back on this thread and who was it who first raised the whole 'Pulis Hating Wankstain' thing? That'll be you. So in fact you brought it up. You did. Hope that's clear. But then again, I can prove anything with facts. Here's another one. You say you've not heard anybody mention Pulis for months. So guess what when you search on his name on here. I even checked how often you mention him, and it's quite a lot but I won't embarrass you with the results of that search. Attachment DeletedPS. You still haven't answered my question about who said 'goals don't matter'. Should be easy enough to answer seeing as you brought that up as well as the subject of Pulis.
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Post by greyman on Feb 14, 2019 9:49:49 GMT
I don't understand why so many people on this thread are so excepting of things getting worse. Why can't we have a manager who improves things for once instead? Other teams are allowed that, the much vaunted new manager bounce. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect some improvement from better team selection, coaching, tactics and motivation. Particularly since it was the same people saying Rowett had all the above wrong. Then hopefilly some further improvement as the manager gradually assembles his own players over a few seasons. Although on the above point if Vokes is any longer a £9m striker I'm a China man. Why don't you wait and see what happens then? Give the bloke a chance for Christs's sake instead of demanding his head before his seat is even warm.
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Post by greyman on Feb 14, 2019 9:45:03 GMT
You still bitter about only being 50 percent right about Pulis momo? Let it go old son. Those sorts of negative emotions always turn inwards. While you're here though, who has said goals don't matter? This Pulis thing is utter cock rot. I haven't even thought about the bloke in all of this. There was no excuse for the shite Rowett churned out and there's no excuse for the utter shite Jones is churning out. I just find it amusing that it is the prominent wankstain community who are now happy to see us score no goals in four games on the bounce, score three goals in nine and fail to score in seven of those nine games and then somehow try and tie it into Pulis! There is certainly an obsession going on in some quarters! Nobody is raising Pulis except for those who judge every manager against him, including by inventing their own facts and people like you and the whole boring 'wankstain/Pulista' thing. And in fact you've just done it yet again. If we can agree on one thing it is that we need to judge Nathan Jones on his own terms and over a period of time. That might include judging him on the same 'utter shite' he is churning out, notice that it's the same shite as all our other recent managers and conclude that the problems run much deeper than the bloke in the dugout. I bet we agree on that too.
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Post by greyman on Feb 14, 2019 9:10:15 GMT
He did turn it around and he is our best ever manager with Waddo.Rowett was useless, Jones may be a little better given time which he hasn't got. He didn't turn it around IMMEDIATELY though did he? There you go again Dave. Fogging up the whole issue with facts and reason.
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Post by greyman on Feb 14, 2019 9:08:27 GMT
Tony Pulis didn't turn round Stoke's fortunes immediately though did he? He lost 6 of his first nine games, and won just two of his first 16 games, culminating with a 0-2 defeat at Grimsby and a 0-6 defeat at Nottingham Forest. He did turn it around and he is our best ever manager with Waddo.Rowett was useless, Jones may be a little better given time which he hasn't got. And again, QED.
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Post by greyman on Feb 14, 2019 9:03:55 GMT
More impotantly like he did at Stoke and got us 10 years at the top table so YOU move on! Tony Pulis didn't turn round Stoke's fortunes immediately though did he? He lost 6 of his first nine games, and won just two of his first 16 games, culminating with a 0-2 defeat at Grimsby and a 0-6 defeat at Nottingham Forest. You can prove anything with facts.
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Post by greyman on Feb 14, 2019 9:00:36 GMT
Discussing with my son this morning. It is really apparent how much of this has to do with Pulis still for some people. They'll never let it go. They're not the Taliban. They're Hiroo Onoda. Our most succesful manager of all time, get real. QED
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Post by greyman on Feb 14, 2019 9:00:10 GMT
How Orwellian! It seems to me most of the people asking for his head are the member's of the Pulis Taliban. They need to let it go FFS! The tables have certainly turned haven't they? It's now the most esteemed and prominent members of the wankstain community telling us that goals don't matter! We have to stick with Jones, we have no choice but lets not pretend its anything other than utter, utter dogshit. You still bitter about only being 50 percent right about Pulis momo? Let it go old son. Those sorts of negative emotions always turn inwards. While you're here though, who has said goals don't matter?
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Post by greyman on Feb 14, 2019 8:56:31 GMT
Could somebody start making a list of these people writing off a manager How Orwellian! It seems to me most of the people asking for his head are the member's of the Pulis Taliban. They need to let it go FFS! Discussing with my son this morning. It is really apparent how much of this has to do with Pulis still for some people. They'll never let it go. They're not the Taliban. They're Hiroo Onoda.
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Post by greyman on Feb 14, 2019 6:34:02 GMT
Could somebody start making a list of these people writing off a manager after half a dozen games. Either they're going to be right in which case they can then just move on to demanding the sacking of every manager we ever have who presides over a handful of poor results.
Or they're going to be wrong and make themselves look not only stupid, but the sort of fickle morons that would be best off having their phones and laptops taken away for their own good.
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Post by greyman on Feb 13, 2019 8:22:58 GMT
Pennant was so good for us - as well as Etherington - in the 10/11 season that when we mullered Arsenal in that game before the Cup Final, Jack Wilshere spent the entire game trying to cripple him and one or two other players. No protection from the ref at all so good job Wilko took matters into his own hands.
Wilshere, one of the very very few players I would like to see suffer a career ending injury.
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Post by greyman on Feb 9, 2019 7:13:45 GMT
I saw Merk at a game recently. May have been the Millwall game. I can confirm he still looks and behaves like an utter twat.
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Post by greyman on Feb 8, 2019 6:44:11 GMT
“Pinching a living” is the term you used, I don’t think for a second would would love to see Bojan performing well, but then again it doesn’t matter what I think, you can say what you like of course. Bojan has worked his bollocks off since the day he signed for Stoke, he hasn’t been consistent enough over the years for many clubs before and during being with us but he’s still by far and away the best footballer we have had for decades, he just hasn’t been given the chance. Ever since Hughes shit himself half way through the third season he was our manager and took all of the flare out of the team Bojan has been stuck playing for cowardly Manager after cowardly Manager who either haven’t dared play with any flare or simply aren’t good enough to know how. Jones is known for playing with attacking intent and as soon as Bojan was fit again he was back in the team and being the best (of a bad bunch I admit) player on the pitch while not fully match fit. You talk a lot of shite. If x number of games (I can't be arsed to look at exactly how many) over y number of years (As above) at £50k a week (or whatever he is on) isn't stealing a living I don't know what is. As for working his bollocks off, he's hardly broke sweat! Let's see how he gets on on Saturday if he starts. I'll be the first to admit if I'm wrong but can't see it. It's pretty obvious you wouldn't admit you're wrong about this with a gun to your head. Maybe Bojan will never recapture the form he once showed, maybe he will. But you've painted yourself into a corner and my guess now is that you and a few others will chew on even if he does get his form back or at least manages to stand out from the pile of shit we've had to endure for so long.
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Post by greyman on Feb 5, 2019 20:36:18 GMT
Currently in Stone
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Post by greyman on Feb 2, 2019 13:11:17 GMT
Alright fornside calm down. Besides Afobe might respond well to some praise. There's nothing grammatically wrong in what you say. But your sentences are inelegant.
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Post by greyman on Feb 2, 2019 11:06:28 GMT
There's question marks everywhere tbh. Looking at the squad, I think we're definitely a genuine holding midfielder and left back short for the system. Then there's the question of whether Bojan or Ince will be up to the job behind the strikers, and whether Edwards or Bauer will be able to do what is required of them at right back. Then of course, we've got issues with who plays alongside Batth and whether Afobe's form will improve with a striker who should compliment him. That aside, I really think Jones should stick to it, even if it gets a bit more painful before it gets better (within reason of course). The diamond formation is what his success as a manager has been built on and why he's ended up here in the first place so he needs to implement it now. By the summer, he should know definitively who is up to playing it and who isn't. Then, with a bit of luck the fun will begin. Champions with 120 points and 200 goals scored 😎 complement
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Post by greyman on Jan 31, 2019 15:46:54 GMT
Grammer Nazi’s win on away goals Grammar Nazis. And it should really be Spelling Nazis.
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Post by greyman on Jan 31, 2019 15:45:37 GMT
It is complementary. Complimentary means something different.
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Post by greyman on Jan 31, 2019 15:44:23 GMT
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Post by greyman on Jan 31, 2019 12:56:16 GMT
Vokes and Afobe - WHATS THAT!? TWO COMPLIMENTARY STRIKERS?!?! HOW DARE YOU STOKE - after so many years of trying to play small, weak strikers as target men up top on their own, this is going to be a really nice change complementary
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Post by greyman on Jan 25, 2019 15:37:02 GMT
They absolutely should be confident because remain one of worst teams in the league, with a league position that greatly flatters us. Our performances have generally, with the exception of last week and possibly one other, been of relegation standard. One game last week does not mean we are suddenly a good team. I lack any sort of confidence that our current band of lazy charlatans will suddenly come good. Maybe they saw their careers under threat and put in a good performance in order to buy some time. Who knows? But I cannot believe they’ve had an epiphany and I expect further heavy thrashings this season. I notice you like to predict lots of thrashings in your posts. Anything you'd like to come clean about?
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Post by greyman on Jan 20, 2019 22:02:54 GMT
I think it's just a booking. Obviously how the ref saw it. You can see him explaining the card on the highlights. Still doesn’t make sense to me. Benik was clean through on goal so any infringement, regardless of whether it’s a push, a trip, a handball or whatever, should be a straight red card for denying a clear goalscoring opportunity. Maybe and maybe the ref did him a favour by giving him a second yellow rather than a straight red. He won't have been the first to do that.
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Post by greyman on Jan 20, 2019 20:15:12 GMT
It was given for handball Does that make a difference? Still denying a clear goalscoring opportunity isn’t it? I think it's just a booking. Obviously how the ref saw it. You can see him explaining the card on the highlights.
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Post by greyman on Jan 20, 2019 17:34:13 GMT
I don’t understand how it was a second yellow card. Surely any infringement there is denying a clear goalscoring opportunity and is a straight red. It was given for handball
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Post by greyman on Jan 20, 2019 3:59:45 GMT
Looked like the second yellow was for Handball from where I was sat, as he fell he tried to stop the ball with his hand. The ref clearly says "handball" and actions that he pushed the ball away as he went down! Exactly. The 'analysis' completely missed this. I found out today whose fans are the real 'victims'. It's not Liverpool but Leeds. We've all moaned about shit refs and whatever, but not a conspiracy across the FA and Football league.
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Post by greyman on Jan 14, 2019 14:46:53 GMT
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Post by greyman on Jan 14, 2019 10:46:00 GMT
Nevertheless we missed a trick. I don't imagine Nathan Jones is rolling in it yet, but Rowett must have had a few quid. Maybe even enough for a left back.
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Post by greyman on Jan 14, 2019 10:27:12 GMT
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