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Post by Trouserdog on Sept 16, 2018 19:08:51 GMT
Just thinking about how short we are on the wings and then remembered this guy.
Is he still here? He was supposed to be the next big thing wasn't he? (Or was that just Bayern going into one of his usual OTT jizzfests over any youth team player who has a good game?)
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 16, 2018 19:12:58 GMT
Think he injured his hamstring about 3-4 weeks ago - but he wasn't in the mix before that.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 16, 2018 19:15:19 GMT
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Post by Trouserdog on Sept 16, 2018 19:16:57 GMT
Think he injured his hamstring about 3-4 weeks ago - but he wasn't in the mix before that. I've only seen him play once, but I thought he was rubbish. I assumed I just caught him on a bad day with all the hype he had a couple of years back, but he did nothing on loan at St Pauli last year. I'd still chuck him on the bench ahead of Fletcher though. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 16, 2018 19:23:11 GMT
Think he injured his hamstring about 3-4 weeks ago - but he wasn't in the mix before that. I've only seen him play once, but I thought he was rubbish. I assumed I just caught him on a bad day with all the hype he had a couple of years back, but he did nothing on loan at St Pauli last year. I'd still chuck him on the bench ahead of Fletcher though. Think regular youth team watchers were genuinely excited about him, weren't they? I definitely got the sense, for the first time, we had a genuine prospect. Rooster Russell went as far as saying he was perhaps the best U-18 winger in Europe. www.stokecityfc.com/news/verlinden-inks-long-term-dealTypiclly for us, it all seems to have turned to shit through niggling injuries and one thing or another. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 19:53:55 GMT
Just thinking about how short we are on the wings and then remembered this guy. Is he still here? He was supposed to be the next big thing wasn't he? (Or was that just Bayern going into one of his usual OTT jizzfests over any youth team player who has a good game?) It certainly wasn't just any old Oatcake fan saying so. It was the UEFA who listed him as one of the 10 most likely teenagers in Europe to succeed only a couple of years ago. He was also listed by the Guardian in their top 60 Next Generation and still rated him highly in 2017 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 19:58:02 GMT
Watched him at Walsall in the friendly. It's hard to judge but I thought he had a bit of talent to be fair. He can obviously take a ball and has a trick. Decent pace but suspect end product and he has a touch of the Ramadan's about him, where he has to beat a man 36,000 times before doing anything.
It's a case of coaching like a lot of kids at that age, coupled with good exposure to first team football at the right time - pretty much everything we've failed at for well over 15 years or more!
I'm still annoyed we've let N'Goy go when we've got 'Mame offside' playing left wing. It's just ridiculous.
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 16, 2018 19:59:33 GMT
Off the coast of Spain
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 16, 2018 20:57:17 GMT
I've only seen him play once, but I thought he was rubbish. I assumed I just caught him on a bad day with all the hype he had a couple of years back, but he did nothing on loan at St Pauli last year. I'd still chuck him on the bench ahead of Fletcher though. Think regular youth team watchers were genuinely excited about him, weren't they? I definitely got the sense, for the first time, we had a genuine prospect. Rooster Russell went as far as saying he was perhaps the best U-18 winger in Europe. www.stokecityfc.com/news/verlinden-inks-long-term-dealTypiclly for us, it all seems to have turned to shit through niggling injuries and one thing or another. Never recovered from stress fracture in his back. His dad also left the club. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 5, 2019 17:49:44 GMT
Strange that we didn't let him go? Not as if we're even going to be playing in a formation that has wingers? www.voetbalnieuws.be/news/381537/jonge-belg-greep-naast-transfer-opties-in-nederland-en-engelandThe 19-year-old flank attacker must be satisfied this season with playing minutes at the U23 of Stoke City. Father Dany Verlinden realizes that the moment of the breakthrough has to come. "He realizes that it is now or never. But you also have to get your chance, "he tells Sporza . "In England they often lend out young players to clubs from the lower leagues, where as in Belgium this usually means that they do not trust you. But from a certain age you really have to play and that time has now arrived. " There were options to go to the Netherlands or another club in England, but the club would not let him go. He still has a contract for 3 years. " |
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Post by lordb on Feb 5, 2019 18:14:17 GMT
Him and Diouf are the only two he hasn't played yet
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Post by misii30 on Feb 5, 2019 18:21:13 GMT
Him and Diouf are the only two he hasn't played yet Has Fletcher featured under Jones yet? |
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 5, 2019 18:22:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 18:24:10 GMT
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Post by pmjh on Feb 5, 2019 18:30:44 GMT
Can he play left back?  |
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Post by chigstoke on Feb 5, 2019 18:44:52 GMT
Don't suppose he'd be able to adapt to the AM role in the diamond could he? |
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 5, 2019 18:51:31 GMT
Don't suppose he'd be able to adapt to the AM role in the diamond could he? Yeah - suppose that'd be the only opening for him in the foreseeable future, and already a bit of a queue forming with Bojan and Ince. And he doesn't seem a big goalscorer which is an advantage there. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 18:59:34 GMT
Don't suppose he'd be able to adapt to the AM role in the diamond could he? Yeah - suppose that'd be the only opening for him in the foreseeable future, and already a bit of a queue forming with Bojan and Ince. And he doesn't seem a big goalscorer which is an advantage there. Can someone explain the difference between the right side and left side of a diamond and a winger please? How much difference is there. Particularly if the winger is a bit more talented than just an limited/old fashioned can bomb down the wing and put a cross in type of winger? |
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Feb 5, 2019 19:03:11 GMT
Him and Diouf are the only two he hasn't played yet Has Fletcher featured under Jones yet? Hopefully he’s forgotten Fletcher exists and just thinks he’s a PE teacher on a training experience or something. |
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Post by chigstoke on Feb 5, 2019 19:08:40 GMT
Yeah - suppose that'd be the only opening for him in the foreseeable future, and already a bit of a queue forming with Bojan and Ince. And he doesn't seem a big goalscorer which is an advantage there. Can someone explain the difference between the right side and left side of a diamond and a winger please? How much difference is there. Particularly if the winger is a bit more talented than just an limited/old fashioned can bomb down the wing and put a cross in type of winger? Well Jones plays 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow, whereas you can also play 4-1-2-1-2 Wide. So Jones Narrow means something along the lines of DM CM - CM AM ST - ST But with wide, you can go DM RM LM AM ST - ST The issue is we don't have anyone with any notable pace who can naturally play the RM and LM roles. Plus he played Narrow at Luton I think anyway. So the AM has less defensive responsibility compared to the CM and DM, where the DM's job is to do it's namesake. Win the ball back, play the ball forward to CM's to start the attack. So in our formation, our LB and RB have to have the pace to get forward and whip crosses in, so they are the width, the middle of the park should be packed to get through (but we're not very good at it right now). |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 19:14:00 GMT
Can someone explain the difference between the right side and left side of a diamond and a winger please? How much difference is there. Particularly if the winger is a bit more talented than just an limited/old fashioned can bomb down the wing and put a cross in type of winger? Well Jones plays 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow, whereas you can also play 4-1-2-1-2 Wide. So Jones Narrow means something along the lines of DM CM - CM AM ST - ST But with wide, you can go DM RM LM AM ST - ST The issue is we don't have anyone with any notable pace who can naturally play the RM and LM roles. Plus he played Narrow at Luton I think anyway. So the AM has less defensive responsibility compared to the CM and DM, where the DM's job is to do it's namesake. Win the ball back, play the ball forward to CM's to start the attack. So in our formation, our LB and RB have to have the pace to get forward and whip crosses in, so they are the width, the middle of the park should be packed to get through (but we're not very good at it right now). Thank you! |
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 5, 2019 20:08:59 GMT
He's no starting for U23's tonight. Bench Saturday?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 20:22:43 GMT
Him and Diouf are the only two he hasn't played yet plus Haugaard |
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Post by lordb on Feb 5, 2019 20:23:39 GMT
Him and Diouf are the only two he hasn't played yet plus Haugaard I'd erased him from my mind tbh... Hopefully Jones does too |
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Post by lordb on Feb 5, 2019 20:25:48 GMT
Him and Diouf are the only two he hasn't played yet Has Fletcher featured under Jones yet? & Him as well... So apart from the viaduct and the sewerage system what have the Romans ever given to us... |
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Post by greyman on Feb 5, 2019 20:36:18 GMT
Currently in Stone
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Post by garthcrooks007 on Feb 5, 2019 20:58:07 GMT
Cool- Are you just passing through or on a nightout? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 21:03:46 GMT
Cool- Are you just passing through or on a nightout? Pint and a wank in Granvilles I reckon |
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Post by lordb on Feb 5, 2019 21:07:13 GMT
Cool- Are you just passing through or on a nightout? Pint and a wank in Granvilles I reckon Wanking into his pint? Or producing a pint-full? |
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 19, 2019 13:25:03 GMT
Encouraging that Verlinden seems to be playing well again as he gets back to fitness. But only one place in the diamond for him to compete for?
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