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Post by greyman on Mar 22, 2016 11:05:14 GMT
No but both issues were raised and settled in court as civil matters. I don't know where you get hatred and bigotry from. The bloke did a good job but is obviously only interested in Tony Pulis and will do much pretty much anything to look after number one. When that coincides with what's good for his employers then all is fine. And when it doesn't, it's not. I'm grateful for the job he did, and grateful he's now gone. Still waiting for you to link to Mark Hughes' comparable behaviour. It strikes me he left Fulham for what he thought was a better job and it turned out it wasn't. I think we've all done that. I don't know many people who've blackmailed and defrauded their employers though. I think it proves that Mark Hughes is only interested in Mark Hughes like every other football manager ever born. Unless you think he has some sort of special affinity to Stoke? Maybe so, but you still haven't provided any links to his comparable behaviour. I'll make it easy for you and let you link to any other manager's who have a comparable track record of blackmail and fraud. |
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Post by greyman on Mar 22, 2016 9:35:21 GMT
I don't know. Did he blackmail the club or defraud them out of money? Can you post a link to prove he did those things? Were the Police involved in these serious crimes? Can you send me the links of what he did at Stoke which of course should be your main concern. I can remmeber him being sacked by the incompetent and idiotic Icelanders. Other than that it seems that personal hatred and bigotry is all that's left. No but both issues were raised and settled in court as civil matters. I don't know where you get hatred and bigotry from. The bloke did a good job but is obviously only interested in Tony Pulis and will do much pretty much anything to look after number one. When that coincides with what's good for his employers then all is fine. And when it doesn't, it's not. I'm grateful for the job he did, and grateful he's now gone. Still waiting for you to link to Mark Hughes' comparable behaviour. It strikes me he left Fulham for what he thought was a better job and it turned out it wasn't. I think we've all done that. I don't know many people who've blackmailed and defrauded their employers though. |
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Post by greyman on Mar 22, 2016 7:52:34 GMT
I agree with you that Pulis did a good job for us. All that we disagree about is the demonstrable fact that he is only interested in Tony Pulis who only does a good job for clubs when their interests are in the interest of Tony Pulis. He proved that here and at Portsmouth, Gillingham, Bristol City and Crystal Palace. He'll be proving it at West Brom some time in the near future. Like Mark Hughes at Fulham for instance? I don't know. Did he blackmail the club or defraud them out of money? Can you post a link to prove he did those things? |
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Post by greyman on Mar 22, 2016 4:49:42 GMT
Sheiky - You clearly need to familiarise Greyman with the "truth" about the betrayal of the suits where Scholes and Cartwright stabbed Tone in the back thus preventing delivery of the world of football changing dossier that would have delivered progress beyond imagination. My posting record on this is pretty clear. It wasn't a sacking offence but it was the right decision. It has worked out fantastically. Pulis did a superb job and is a Stoke legend. Hughes is doing a fantastic job and will be a Stoke legend. Come and join me and state the same undoubted truth. You'll feel released and won’t have that heavy cloud of bias hanging over your head any longer.  I agree with you that Pulis did a good job for us. All that we disagree about is the demonstrable fact that he is only interested in Tony Pulis who only does a good job for clubs when their interests are in the interest of Tony Pulis. He proved that here and at Portsmouth, Gillingham, Bristol City and Crystal Palace. He'll be proving it at West Brom some time in the near future. |
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Post by greyman on Mar 21, 2016 21:39:33 GMT
I think we've reached the point where you agree with the owners of the club that if you're forking out tens or even hundreds of millions of increased transfer fees and wages, there should be some signs of progress and development. That should wrap it up. Yeah from 12th in the Championship with gates of 14,000 to mid table in the Premier League with the highest average gate for decades represented no progress whatsoever.  More journalistic license? Not at all. We're talking about the final two years and your support for Tony Scholes and the owners and board in their decision to sack Pulis based on his failure to progress with more resources available to him. |
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Post by greyman on Mar 21, 2016 13:51:53 GMT
No my figure shows the growth between the last year of Pulis and the first year of Hughes. Obviously a massive hike of £1million in club salaries proves your point that Hughes has only managed to improve matters by virtue of an inflated wage bill My numbers are via Deloitte not agents or some comic. Glad you enojoyed your brainwashing last night (were they paying?). I'm sure you will be polishing Scholes cock again in the magazine soon. I think we've reached the point where you agree with the owners of the club that if you're forking out tens or even hundreds of millions of increased transfer fees and wages, there should be some signs of progress and development. That should wrap it up. |
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Post by greyman on Mar 20, 2016 19:52:13 GMT
If you think that is the reason then I really ought to come back and suggest you are displaying, your every post since Pulis left and Hughes cam in with a genuine plan to move this club forward. However Im much more polite than that and will simply reference the average salary increases incurred by Premier League clubs since 2012 and invite you to account for how much of the increase in salary costs is player related and how much is due to larger and better renumerated staff outside of the football side of the business. The information is all out there and I'm sure you have studied it in order to make an informed contribution outside of your normal one eyed Pulis defending rants. Or perhaps you haven't?  Oh right, so wages don't matter then and transfer fees do. Thanks for clarifying. I like to know the trenches that are being dug I think we can safely leave the answer to that question to the owners and directors of Stoke City who seem to agree with you that if you are spending significantly more on both, you should expect to see some progress in one way or another. |
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Post by greyman on Mar 20, 2016 17:38:00 GMT
Oliver yet again ducks out of a big decision. Yep. Bottled it completely. |
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Post by greyman on Mar 20, 2016 17:17:25 GMT
It's the only thing that keeps momo going at his age. 24,387 posts and 24,217 of them calling people cunts about our former manager . Even merk has given up on that. |
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Post by greyman on Mar 18, 2016 0:19:16 GMT
It's not just the bonus is it. It's finding a new manager two days before the season starts and all the costs involved in that. Then it's the cost of sacking him and going through all the process again with Pardew. Paying Newcastle off as well? The toxic fucker left them in the shit. Why ask for the bonus early? He knew he was going alright and he chanced his arm. Parish bit back. That'll be 5 million for your troubles. Yes, I understand that. What doesn't make much sense is why he didn't delay his departure by a week, in which case he would almost certainly have won his case. Why take the risk of falling foul of the small print in the contract? No matter how much I wanted to shaft someone, I think I could hang fire for a week, if doing so meant I would be in a bomb proof position as regards a contract I had put my signature to. Occam's razor: He either misunderstood the terms himself or had bad advice at the time he wanted to screw them over. |
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Post by greyman on Mar 11, 2016 9:56:34 GMT
...and a special mention for Chris Smalling's abject performance last night.
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Post by greyman on Mar 10, 2016 12:30:50 GMT
The luckiest defender in the world is Cahill. An absolutely woeful defender, yet plays in the Champions League and is first choice centre half for England. Yes he must be really lucky mustn't he? Either that or he is actually quite good and this is just another hand bagging thread trying to pick holes in anyone who is chosen ahead of Ryan for England. The fact is that the current crop of England centre backs are on a par with Shawcross. At best you could argue that Cahill and Smalling are marginally better, whereas players like Terry, Ferdinand, Campbell and King were clearly better. The problem is that Stones remains unproven and nobody knows what Phil Jones is for, so asking why Shawcross isn't even given a chance is perfectly reasonable. |
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Post by greyman on Mar 10, 2016 11:06:56 GMT
Gary Cahill is far from shit imo, him & shawcross together for us in the league would be a quality pairing. I'd like to think if it was possible we'd be well in for him in the summer No thanks. We all remember it was Cahill who left Shawcross to look after Ibrahimovic on his debut, the fucking coward. He proved last night he couldn't deal with Zlatan. |
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Post by greyman on Mar 8, 2016 17:45:37 GMT
If you watch rugby week in week out and see the amount of tackles that are run through even with arms around ankles then its fairly obvious at full pelt going over isnt the only option. Granted there are times when people cant help hitting the deck, but in this instance with Benteke we are talking about who quite clearly cheated and dived. If you go over every time I suggest some gym leg work H If you watch rugby you'll no doubt have seen a winger at full pelt being brought down by an ankle-tap. Tap the trailing foot inwards as he's running and he trips himself up. It's incredibly satisfying to do! That's right. And they go over like a sack of shit, not in a graceful arc, twisting in mid air and screaming in pain. |
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Post by greyman on Mar 7, 2016 15:07:33 GMT
I don't know why this debate goes on. If somebody is legged up or clattered with force, they go down in a particular way. If they go down with a slight trip, they fall over in a different way. But that's not the way Benteke went down. We need to stop this bullshit about 'entitlement'. It's cheating, pure and simple, and years ago ex pros would have called it for what it is. Instead we have them lined up on MOTD and live games perpetuating the idea of entitlement.
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Post by greyman on Mar 3, 2016 9:41:33 GMT
The teams 'in us'?
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Post by greyman on Mar 2, 2016 5:38:48 GMT
I read in the news that Jack Wilshere's injury is worse than previously thought and he'll be out for at least another month. Normally I wouldn't gloat, but ever since I watched this snidey little bastard set out to injure somebody in the last game we played before the FA Cup Final, I hope it's career threatening. One of the reasons we won so easily that day was because it was clear that Wilshere for one wasn't interested in the result rather than hurting somebody so they couldn't play at Wembley.
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Post by greyman on Feb 21, 2016 19:05:24 GMT
Momo and foxysgloves are right though. It's all just a massive coincidence that wherever Pulis works there are the sorts of idiots who hate him and his football for no apparent reason. What other explanation could there be? Does this mean I have your full approval when I throw a coin at Tony Scholes eye, Mark? I mean he's a cunt, no doubt so lets sort it out, right? Make it a chocolate coin so it fully expresses your confused and repressed underlying love for the man. |
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Post by greyman on Feb 21, 2016 17:59:49 GMT
Momo and foxysgloves are right though. It's all just a massive coincidence that wherever Pulis works there are the sorts of idiots who hate him and his football for no apparent reason. What other explanation could there be?
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Post by greyman on Feb 21, 2016 17:43:14 GMT
I still think the best way for board admin to deal with this is to delete anything to do with Pulis, pin one of the old Pulis debates to the top of the board for those who want to see the same points made over and over again or just post a link to the Baggies messageboard where you can see exactly the same debate going on. By complete coincidence of course.
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Post by greyman on Feb 14, 2016 11:35:28 GMT
Is anyone interested in anything they have got to say? They are even trained in how to say nothing. Who bother interviewing them and who gives a cak what they say anyway. It's the questions they are asked. They are mundane in the extreme and allow for non answers. If the journalists didn't ask mundane questions, they'd be banned by press officers. Just look at what happens whenever an interviewer asks a player or manager something they don't like. If you watch MOTD, you can see the same race to the bottom evident in the punditry. Shearer gets paid tens of thousands a week to say things like 'he'll be disappointed he didn't do better from there'. And whenever something needs saying - eg Smalling, Stones and Cahill simply aren't very good defenders and nobody even knows what Phil Jones is for - it won't be said. |
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Post by greyman on Feb 9, 2016 13:44:27 GMT
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Jan 27, 2016 14:16:40 GMT
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Post by greyman on Jan 27, 2016 14:16:40 GMT
The board went to shit as Smudge describes after computers became affordable for the hoi polloi. And I know Old Stokie agrees.
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Post by greyman on Jan 25, 2016 12:17:00 GMT
My test for these people is whether they would shoot their mouths off about other people's skin colour if they were locked in a room with Mike Tyson and a length of pipe. People say they're thick, but they're always smart enough not to pick on anybody who can do something about it.
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Post by greyman on Jan 20, 2016 8:24:15 GMT
Wonder what you think of these then ? The fish one makes me chuckle Every one of those choreographed celebrations should result in this. |
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Post by greyman on Jan 3, 2016 23:19:36 GMT
I wouldn't worry about the Lamela thing. If Cameron's was a red, Fellaini would be sent off every week.
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Post by greyman on Dec 21, 2015 9:11:57 GMT
If Blatter and Platinum both get very lengthy bans, we could be saying in years to come what an important day this is. Still, shame they weren't lifetime bans. This finishes Platini. |
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Post by greyman on Dec 8, 2015 8:32:21 GMT
The Swansea player are not happy that he wont let them cheat.  Yeah, he's been dropping them all every time they take a dive. He has hasn't he? Otherwise that would make him a massive liar...... Giving an ex player with no coaching experience the manager's job always seems ridiculously unnecessarily risky to me. It doesn't matter how well a club starts off, you need someone who you know can handle it when things get tough. Chelsea will probably hold on to Mourinhio as they have seen both how he won the title at Madrid after a bad season (not as bad as this one to be fair!) and how no manager since has managed to be as consistent. What evidence do Swansea have that Monk will turn things round in time to avoid a relegation battle, and then in future seasons deliver the top half finishes they believe they are entitled to? None, so it's no wonder if the board are thinking about dropping the axe. Stupid appointment. One thing Mourinho has never done is developed a team after year three. I've seen all sorts of theories as to why this might be but anybody who compares him to the true greats like Alex Ferguson who was able to build and rebuild successful teams and a club dynasty over many years is wrong. If you want to win trophies for a couple of years, Mourinho is obviously your man, but beyond that there's no substance to him. |
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Post by greyman on Nov 5, 2015 14:19:58 GMT
Instinct would suggest that Geoff is the right choice... But it would be very interesting to see Muniesa there. What instinct would that be? Is it the same one that makes Muniesa an 'interesting' possibility? |
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Post by greyman on Nov 5, 2015 0:18:03 GMT
Hehehe. That made me laugh. Is that the official "David Moyes treatment" like Rooney got at united or the WBA chiding ala the Brazilian setup they're going for with Victor? It's the mcf view that SuperTone can do no wrong standpoint For once Merk is right. We should just be grateful to be playing the likes of Leicester and Watford. We should go out there with every intention to win in style like we used to do with five strikers on the pitch - Chris Greenacre at left back, Carl Asaba in central midfield, Ric and Mama in the Ric and Mama roles, Richard Cresswell in goal, supported by Jonathan Woodgate and Matty on the wings. It could still work now. |
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