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Post by greyman on Feb 13, 2017 22:43:32 GMT
Laughing if that is the case I will apologise unreservedley Not wishing to step on Greymans toes here as it is he who deserves the apology, however can I make a small request - please Can we have your apology in the form of contemporary dance? I'd like it in the form of hard cash. |
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Post by greyman on Feb 13, 2017 20:05:56 GMT
Pulis was pretty much accused of lying in court. He was labelled deceitful by a judge. Why would anyone believe his word over that of representatives of our club? Maybe, but we still need the facts, otherwise we go back to the dark ages. The facts are that Pulis is a proven liar and crook (read the court transcripts) who is currently actively trying to undermine my club and its players. Another fact is that you're a wind up merchant with no association with this club who I would cheerfully smack in the mouth if I ever met you for the way you've spent years telling us that this man is more important than Stoke City. And I'm not even like that. |
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Post by greyman on Feb 13, 2017 18:17:09 GMT
There's a difference. Stoke may be dealing with the PR clumsily but Pulis has shown himself up as the spiteful, vindictive bastard we know he is. What he objects to is the growing number of people who can see it. As for it being unimportant, if any other manager had leaked confidential details of a player before a game then left a phone message taunting the opposition club captain, you wouldn't be saying that. You're just one of the people who think Pulis is bigger than Stoke City. I'm simply saying that because the story that was leaked to the press about SB was true and not false it was unwise of Stoke to engage in a war of words in public with West Brom, what did they hope to achieve? Regarding the message to Ryan, Pulis has said he used the word loser but not in the context Mark Hughes is alleging, it's in Ryan's power to now clarify this issue beyond any reasonable doubt by responding. Regarding the character of Tony Pulis, I don't know him, have never met him and have only his television interviews and his managerial record to judge him by, in that respect I'm not prepared to go along with the majority on here that he is some sort of villain. 1. The question is what did West Brom hope to achieve? 2. Pulis is a liar. Proven fact. I think we can take the response of Kath Shawcross as testament to the context. 3. Don't forget the courts. They think he's some kind of villain too. As for you, If I were admin, you'd be the one person I'd ban permanently from the site. You're on here arguing all the time that Pulis is bigger than the club, and you're not even a Stoke fan. |
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Post by greyman on Feb 13, 2017 17:45:00 GMT
There's a difference. Stoke may be dealing with the PR clumsily but Pulis has shown himself up as the spiteful, vindictive bastard we know he is. What he objects to is the growing number of people who can see it. As for it being unimportant, if any other manager had leaked confidential details of a player before a game then left a phone message taunting the opposition club captain, you wouldn't be saying that. You're just one of the people who think Pulis is bigger than Stoke City. Do we know that then? I've only been following this casually but is that a known fact? Only that I would be amazed if anyone at WBA in a senior official capacity such as the manager or the chairman leaked the story since the drugs offence took place under their watch and so reflects poorly on their club and not us. Conversely I could well imagine a fan of WBA or a former friend of Saido with some inside gen leaking it and I had thought that was a far more likely scenario. I'll happily stand corrected though if we really know that and we have the source. We can note that Pulis didn't like Stoke leaking the story about his phone message at all. Never said anything about the Saido leak though. Funny, that. The people in the club seem confident they know where the leak came from. That'll do for me. |
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Post by greyman on Feb 13, 2017 16:59:35 GMT
Having discussions about this issue on the Oatcake is one thing, but why Stoke have decided to escalate this relatively unimportant story is beyond me, it's simply making all parties look unprofessional. There's a difference. Stoke may be dealing with the PR clumsily but Pulis has shown himself up as the spiteful, vindictive bastard we know he is. What he objects to is the growing number of people who can see it. As for it being unimportant, if any other manager had leaked confidential details of a player before a game then left a phone message taunting the opposition club captain, you wouldn't be saying that. You're just one of the people who think Pulis is bigger than Stoke City. |
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Post by greyman on Feb 13, 2017 14:21:53 GMT
10:24 Relationship with family not affected - Pulis Tony Pulis insists his fall out with Stoke manager Mark Hughes won't affect his relationship with the Coates family. The latest conflict between the managers revolved around Hughes' revelation that Pulis left an answerphone message for Stoke skipper Ryan Shawcross. Pulis denied he was calling Stoke a loser in the message and also says of the Coates family: "I think they will understand and know what has happened. I don’t think they need convincing, they know me too well. What’s been leaked and what’s been put out is disgraceful and I mean disgraceful." Read more at www.stokesentinel.co.uk/stoke-city-news-and-transfer-rumours-live/story-30131627-detail/story.html#lEJwxJqIU63wFiw1.99The man needs to stop talking. He knows he's gone too far this time. Was always going to happen to the snidey little shit. By the way, that statement also confirms that he's had no contact with anybody from the Coates family. He used to let on that he was like a son to Peter Coates. Well, obviously not. |
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Post by greyman on Feb 12, 2017 19:59:07 GMT
I'll repeat it again, a court of law found your hero guilty of fraud, and called into question his conduct. You're effectively staunchly defending a criminal. What am I defending, from a Stoke perspective? The Crystal Palace situation, that has nothing to do with you, came after the moment you shot your load when we reached the FA Cup Final. I bet you were so 'kin disgusted that a criminal got your beloved club to the FA Cup Final that you refused to accept it ever happened. From a Stoke point of view we can point out a few things too. And of course the Palace thing wasn't the first time a court case had exposed fraudulent behaviour. |
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Post by greyman on Feb 12, 2017 19:28:33 GMT
You mean those greedy fuckers who rescued him from 2 years obscurity and who he went on to publicly criticise? Come on ffs. The Icelanders came with good intentions and left being exposed as money obsessed wankers who couldn't be arsed to even be at the Britannia Stadium at the end. Absent Landlords. TP is not the only wanker to be associated with our club recently. They were absolute shitehawks. Somewhere within that, you've just called Pulis a wanker. I might be the first to say this but welcome to the light. Possibly 13 years after some of us  From what I can tell, the only people left to defend him are PolPotter and Hiroo Onoda* * Look it up |
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Post by greyman on Feb 12, 2017 18:44:16 GMT
You don't remember the binary season ? That was by design not accident. He deliberately fucked over the paying supporter because he wasn't getting his own way. Any basis for this opinion? Pulis admitted it. How's that? |
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Post by greyman on Feb 12, 2017 9:31:06 GMT
The only people who know the truth are MH and TP.I cannot see reason a why TP would call Ryan a loser a player he defended to the hilt after the Ramsey incident.I think the media and PR Pepole have picked words out of context to make a story which is what they do.The easiest way to finish this is put the full message out not bits here and there.And both chairman telling both managers not to get there clubs into a slanging match and concentrate on what they are paid to do. He did it and it's in his character to do it. Anybody who thinks Tony Pulis is bothered about Stoke City wasn't even paying attention in his first stint. He was good for the club when it was also in his own best interests. |
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Post by greyman on Feb 12, 2017 9:13:03 GMT
Based on his performance yesterday, he had them on the wrong feet
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Post by greyman on Feb 12, 2017 9:10:37 GMT
A man who's cooked his goose and is now trying to squirm his way out. He deserves dog's abuse when he returns |
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Post by greyman on Feb 5, 2017 21:34:44 GMT
I think a lot of people still have in the back of their mind the club's shitty behaviour in 2002 Agreed made loads of local businessmen bankrupt because of their behaviour led by jugears. Not just businesses. While they were busy spending money they didn't have to win promotion, they weren't paying for the local ambulance service to attend games. They were basically thieving from businesses and the ambulance service to fund a promotion bid, which is why whenever a club now goes into administration, they have a points deduction. |
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Post by greyman on Feb 5, 2017 20:39:23 GMT
I think a lot of people still have in the back of their mind the club's shitty behaviour in 2002
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Post by greyman on Feb 5, 2017 7:05:04 GMT
A blatant lie from Pulis, what a surprise that is! I'm not very happy with Mark Bowen either, grinning like a Cheshire Cat when we have just lost! More like a knowing grin. |
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Post by greyman on Feb 4, 2017 23:16:28 GMT
I would think Hughes would be embarrassed today. Beaten by a West Brom side that Stoke would never loose to under TP but putting otn such a parlous performance at the same time. I believe Stoke would be much better off under TP Except we weren't. |
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Post by greyman on Feb 4, 2017 23:02:41 GMT
Worried, bollocks! You ooze and seep negativity from every pore in your body, the Oatcakes very own harbinger of doom. You crawl out of your box every time we lose proselytising negativity and doom. You also can't construct a grammatical correct paragraph and seem to relish in it as some sort of calling card. Troll Save your venom for those that told uou 58 points was on the cards you've been conned You need to work out whether you support Stoke or not. Pulls has just been caught lying again. |
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Post by greyman on Feb 3, 2017 20:56:51 GMT
I'm here. First half entirely down to poor tactics. Been all over them after switch at half time. Now 2 2 and extra time
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Post by greyman on Feb 3, 2017 10:10:51 GMT
He doesn't love any fans. As for loving Stoke, I think that myth was put to bed when he coached his players to feign injury to get Stoke players sent off then celebrated the red cards. You can be grateful for the job he did here and still recognise him for what he is. Sounds he should have rolled over like an obedient puppy and handed over the 3 points you mean? Straw man. It's bollocks like this that discourages people from saying anything on here. So when you say: "Sounds he should have rolled over like an obedient puppy and handed over the 3 points you mean?" I say: "So are you saying we should close down all the hospitals?" I win. |
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Post by greyman on Feb 3, 2017 9:58:03 GMT
Understand hating west brom etc...but tp ? Had some of our best years with him and he does love stoke and the fans. He doesn't love any fans. As for loving Stoke, I think that myth was put to bed when he coached his players to feign injury to get Stoke players sent off then celebrated the red cards. You can be grateful for the job he did here and still recognise him for what he is. |
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Post by greyman on Jan 23, 2017 18:41:42 GMT
I never made the comparison. Neither did you. As I said previously, it was blackpoolred who argued that a major fraud is no different to a young man talking shit.
But I like that idea. The Pulis Scale.
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Post by greyman on Jan 23, 2017 18:21:43 GMT
Pulis didn't act foolishly. He committed fraud. Isn't refusing to play whilst still collecting your wage a type of fraud? Oh wait. I've just seen this. Minus 40 percent. An improvement, but still not right. |
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Post by greyman on Jan 23, 2017 18:18:15 GMT
For once, I think momo may be 100 percent right. That's a new record, beating his previous personal best of 50 percent by 50 percent.
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Post by greyman on Jan 23, 2017 16:49:13 GMT
The original person who compared Pulis's actions with Berahino's was blackpoolred. He's the one who thinks a multimillion pound fraud is morally equivalent to a young lad behaving like a tit.
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Post by greyman on Jan 23, 2017 16:46:28 GMT
Maybe we had some defenders better than Martiensson. We certainly also had some worse than him - and some of them got constantly selected to play ahead of him. I thought the limited game time for Martiensson made no sense at the time and I have seen nothing since to change my opinion. In some of his very few appearances he looked very good indeed. And he was probably our best player in that friendly against Man Utd where Freezer scored a goal via the back of Barthez's head. I think some people might be missing the sarcasm in my posts. Everyone who has responded so far by the look of it... Poe's Law |
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Post by greyman on Jan 22, 2017 17:34:05 GMT
It's beer time now and time for me to go and talk to humans and not this thing. I have made Pugs head explode with this debate - for which I apologise. Some have even threatened to come to my house and sort me out for daring to have a tad of empathy for our former manager What can I say - I have been truly beasted by fellow supporters - I am turning into benjibiscuit2 COYMP No. I threatened to send someone round to your house to stop you talking like a 13 year old black kid from Detroit. I'm ignoring the fact you think defrauding an employer is fine so long as you think you deserve the money you con out of them. Where do you work again? |
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Post by greyman on Jan 22, 2017 11:39:13 GMT
Pulis didn't act foolishly. He committed fraud. Say 'lame ass' again and I'll find where you live and send somebody round. What is this lame ass ? As I need a couple of new hips am I a lame ass if so Would appreciate if you could send some one round to sort them out We may have been unfair on him. He could well be a black American from the midwest. And not a twat. |
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Post by greyman on Jan 22, 2017 8:47:40 GMT
Did he show integrity during his time at Stoke City? He publicly slaughtered his bosses first time around - the Icelanders. So Berahino has no moral compass because he (foolishly) refused to play but Toxic has it in spades despite what 2 (TWO) High Court Judges say? I know for a fact what Pulis is like and I know what Berahino is like. Directly from people who have worked with the pair of them with no axe to grind whatsoever. Your heads gone mate. We have heard on Twitter off people who played/worked directly with Berahino - and they have a difference of opinion to your sources. Yes you are correct in saying that Berahino acted foolishly by refusing to play, as did Pulis when screwing his bonus out of Palace, but I think you could also argue he deserved his bonus when you consider where he found them and where he left them and how hard he worked at doing so, there is not really any case for Berahino's lame ass actions though. Pulis didn't act foolishly. He committed fraud. Say 'lame ass' again and I'll find where you live and send somebody round. |
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Post by greyman on Jan 19, 2017 11:57:53 GMT
She Stood There Laughing and She Laughed No More Both by the lamented and very funny (and tragic) Stephen Foster. Exile in the Promised Land by Steve Mifflin Match of my Life - Stoke City by Simon Lowe And, of course, Sir Stan's autobiography. I also recommend (not Stoke City): My Father and Other Working Class Heroes by Gary Imlach You'll Win Nothing with Kids by Jim White The Damned United by David Peace Fathers, Sons and Football, by Colin Shindler Trautmann's Journey by Catrine Clay Provided You Don't Kiss Me by Duncan Hamilton Happy reading! I'd echo these but also "The Final" by Stephen Foster. Only available electronically I think. I published that with winger. If anybody would like a copy, DM me |
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Post by greyman on Jan 6, 2017 10:20:13 GMT
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