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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 16:55:04 GMT
...best read?
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Post by slpmarc on Jan 18, 2017 17:00:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 17:06:52 GMT
Good book and a smashing lad. |
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Post by lagwafis on Jan 18, 2017 17:19:37 GMT
For historical reference and nostalgia it's worth looking up Simon Lowe. He's done several including 'Match of my Life' where you've got ex players talking about their favourite games For a good, funny read then David Lee released a few including 'You Could'ner Make It Up' which tells the story of the 25 Stoke managers prior to promotion in 2008. He also has other books about Tony Pulis and our record in the cups, done in similar style. Personalised newspaper books seem to be all the rage at the moment (a collection of newspaper clippings from greatest games etc.) You can buy them on Amazon and also through Toffs I think. Chris Kamara's autobiography is worth buying just for his story of him running around the stadium trying to find his missing resignation letter (which could easily be accompanied by Benny Hill music) Other than that Stephen Foster's Stoke books are both good reads. Mark Chester's 'Naughty' too (I know a few turned their noses up to this one but it'll be a trip down memory lane for some around at that time) |
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Post by spawnyruud on Jan 18, 2017 17:36:31 GMT
Just finished reading The Wanderer (story of Frank Soo). Really interesting read, have a lot of respect for the players who plied their trade during that era now. Players in the forces during the war just tried to turnout for whoever they could, nearest wherever they were stationed, amazing. Shame players like him aren't as recongised, Top England and Stoke player in his time but I'd never heard of him before this book.
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Post by localloser on Jan 18, 2017 17:39:54 GMT
She Stood There Laughing and
She Laughed No More
Both by the lamented and very funny (and tragic) Stephen Foster.
Exile in the Promised Land by Steve Mifflin
Match of my Life - Stoke City by Simon Lowe
And, of course, Sir Stan's autobiography.
I also recommend (not Stoke City):
My Father and Other Working Class Heroes by Gary Imlach
You'll Win Nothing with Kids by Jim White
The Damned United by David Peace
Fathers, Sons and Football, by Colin Shindler
Trautmann's Journey by Catrine Clay
Provided You Don't Kiss Me by Duncan Hamilton
Happy reading!
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Post by elystokie on Jan 18, 2017 17:44:06 GMT
Two I don't see mentioned very often but which I enjoyed are "Tie me to the mast" and 'Who the hell was Dudley Kernick'.
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Post by sharonbeech21 on Jan 18, 2017 18:13:56 GMT
Match of my life
Denis Smith Autobiography
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 18:20:39 GMT
Bubbles in the Bath by Ivor Windybottom
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Post by mattador78 on Jan 18, 2017 18:37:04 GMT
Luckiest man in football mamas book great read especially just how much the guy ended up loving it living in stoke,and how much he loves the club and how they look after players
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Post by robstokie on Jan 18, 2017 18:43:26 GMT
The second Stephen Foster book (cant get hold of the first one) and the David Johnson one from the promotion season
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Post by roylandstoke on Jan 18, 2017 19:16:28 GMT
I enjoyed "Tie me to the mast", and "Exile in the Promised Land".
Both of winger's (Stephen Foster) books were great. The first remains one of the best sports books I have read.
For reference works, Simon Lowe's "Modern Era" and "Delilah Roars Again" are almost essential.
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Post by wuzza on Jan 18, 2017 20:35:42 GMT
'Who the Hell was Dudley Kernick' gives a picture of top level football in a vastly different era (pre TV money) but also shows him to be quite an insightful guy with regard the future of the game. Not many football books like it.
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Jan 18, 2017 20:40:24 GMT
She Stood There Laughing and She Laughed No More Both by the lamented and very funny (and tragic) Stephen Foster. Exile in the Promised Land by Steve Mifflin Match of my Life - Stoke City by Simon Lowe And, of course, Sir Stan's autobiography. I also recommend (not Stoke City): My Father and Other Working Class Heroes by Gary Imlach You'll Win Nothing with Kids by Jim White The Damned United by David Peace Fathers, Sons and Football, by Colin Shindler Trautmann's Journey by Catrine Clay Provided You Don't Kiss Me by Duncan Hamilton Happy reading! I'd echo these but also "The Final" by Stephen Foster. Only available electronically I think. |
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Post by RichJonesy on Jan 18, 2017 21:45:10 GMT
She Stood There Laughing and She Laughed No More Both by the lamented and very funny (and tragic) Stephen Foster. Exile in the Promised Land by Steve Mifflin Match of my Life - Stoke City by Simon Lowe And, of course, Sir Stan's autobiography. I also recommend (not Stoke City): My Father and Other Working Class Heroes by Gary Imlach You'll Win Nothing with Kids by Jim White The Damned United by David Peace Fathers, Sons and Football, by Colin Shindler Trautmann's Journey by Catrine Clay Provided You Don't Kiss Me by Duncan Hamilton Happy reading! Best non stoke one is Provided you don't kiss me. Quality read and brilliantly written. Also non stoke and quite factual and very interesting is La Roja about how football is and why in Spain. |
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Post by louis on Jan 18, 2017 22:27:00 GMT
50 Seasons a Stokie: 1961 to 2011 by Mike Jolley great read buy it from the paper shop at Trentham Gardens.
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Post by localloser on Jan 18, 2017 22:28:25 GMT
I loved My Father....by Gary Imlach. Tells of how footballers lived in their local communities and got paid a tenner a week - and nothing in the close season.
Interestingly, I am reading (re--reading some of it) the collected works of Arnold Bennett a quid for the whole lot in Kindle - best deal ever. Last week I came across one of his short stories written in 1912. The star footballer for Knype (Bennett's name for Stoke) earned £4 a week, and as he couldn't make ends meet on that, the football club set him up in a pub in Toft End (Bennett's name for Sneyd Green). He cycled to and from the games and gave football up when his wife died in childbirth. Of course, it's only fiction but I'm pretty sure Bennett was drawing on experience and it made me think the of difference between Bennett's "star" footballer on 4 quid a week and Tevez getting £615k a week in China. All this in just over 100 years.
Madness
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Post by kaney78 on Jan 18, 2017 22:32:31 GMT
She stood there laughing a good one |
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Post by TheTipster on Jan 18, 2017 22:52:57 GMT
Agree with Louis, 50 seasons a Stokie, great read, and a little local history too, to keep the non football fan entertained.
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Post by RichJonesy on Jan 18, 2017 23:33:33 GMT
I loved My Father....by Gary Imlach. Tells of how footballers lived in their local communities and got paid a tenner a week - and nothing in the close season. Interestingly, I am reading (re--reading some of it) the collected works of Arnold Bennett a quid for the whole lot in Kindle - best deal ever. Last week I came across one of his short stories written in 1912. The star footballer for Knype (Bennett's name for Stoke) earned £4 a week, and as he couldn't make ends meet on that, the football club set him up in a pub in Toft End (Bennett's name for Sneyd Green). He cycled to and from the games and gave football up when his wife died in childbirth. Of course, it's only fiction but I'm pretty sure Bennett was drawing on experience and it made me think the of difference between Bennett's "star" footballer on 4 quid a week and Tevez getting £615k a week in China. All this in just over 100 years. Madness So.....if my average maths is any good at all....in another 100 years players will get £9,455,720,000,000,000 a week to play in China...or wherever the footballing superpower of the time lies. Probably the Isle of Man. |
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Post by baystokie on Jan 18, 2017 23:37:42 GMT
She Stood There Laughing and She Laughed No More Both by the lamented and very funny (and tragic) Stephen Foster. Exile in the Promised Land by Steve Mifflin Match of my Life - Stoke City by Simon Lowe And, of course, Sir Stan's autobiography. I also recommend (not Stoke City): My Father and Other Working Class Heroes by Gary Imlach You'll Win Nothing with Kids by Jim White The Damned United by David Peace Fathers, Sons and Football, by Colin Shindler Trautmann's Journey by Catrine Clay Provided You Don't Kiss Me by Duncan Hamilton Happy reading! Which one of Sir Stan's autobiographies? Feet First (1948) Feet First Again (1952) The Stanley Matthews Story (1956) The Way It Was There's even David Miller's Biography. Fascinating checking whether the facts remain constant in all editions! |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jan 19, 2017 7:54:50 GMT
Denis Smith's Autobiography is very good. Also Lost In France the story of Leigh Richmond Roose is an excellent insight into social history of the time and a story about a very extraordinary man. Sir Stans autobiography , The Way It Was, is good and I have a Newspaper Cuttings personalised book which is great for researching subjects raised on Oatcake threads.
One that did really disappoint was Terry Conroy's autobiography "You Don't Remember Me Do You?", stories were interesting enough just thought it was badly written.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 8:02:24 GMT
Havent read TC's yet...no ones mentioned it
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Post by kentpotter on Jan 19, 2017 9:19:13 GMT
Gordon Banks - the goalkeeper that could fly
Or some such title, by an Irish guy, great little read.
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Post by flea79 on Jan 19, 2017 9:52:51 GMT
pretty much most have been recommended
tie me to the mast is great
the late Stephen Foster stuff is a great gentle read
im afraid to say I enjoyed the writing of Mark Chester especially his second about Stoke Lads going on holiday or travelling abroad and the depths to which they sank at times, I think we are far enough away from those days know to have a good laugh at the absurdity of it all
I also recommend I am the secret footballer, some great stoke related stuff in there about tactics etc
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Post by greyman on Jan 19, 2017 11:57:53 GMT
She Stood There Laughing and She Laughed No More Both by the lamented and very funny (and tragic) Stephen Foster. Exile in the Promised Land by Steve Mifflin Match of my Life - Stoke City by Simon Lowe And, of course, Sir Stan's autobiography. I also recommend (not Stoke City): My Father and Other Working Class Heroes by Gary Imlach You'll Win Nothing with Kids by Jim White The Damned United by David Peace Fathers, Sons and Football, by Colin Shindler Trautmann's Journey by Catrine Clay Provided You Don't Kiss Me by Duncan Hamilton Happy reading! I'd echo these but also "The Final" by Stephen Foster. Only available electronically I think. I published that with winger. If anybody would like a copy, DM me |
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Post by Bagwash on Jan 19, 2017 12:42:47 GMT
Gordon Banks - the goalkeeper that could fly Or some such title, by an Irish guy, great little read. Excellent shout matey.It's actually called 'Gordon Banks-A hero who could fly' and the authors name is Don Mullan. Some very good books posted with Denis Smiths autobiography being a favoutite of mine. For reference,the Simon Lowe books,Stoke City-The Modern Era and Delilah Roars again are invaluable as is the Stoke City encyclopaedia 1868-1994. The Oatcake fanzine book,'With Chayze' is also a good read.I do believe a second book is well overdue.  |
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Post by roostershair on Jan 19, 2017 12:57:43 GMT
Luckiest man in football- Mama.
A hero who could fly- Banksie
Rise of the underdog- Higgy
Just finished reading Match of my life. That's a good 'un too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 14:14:26 GMT
I have just started Sir Stans book the way it was, only 3 chapters in but really enjoying it so far. refreshing to hear how it used to be for a footballer, and not the pampered bunch we see nowadays.
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Post by tideswell on Jan 19, 2017 14:45:24 GMT
Danny Higginbotham's book didn't really do a lot for me if i'm honest.
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