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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 16, 2023 9:22:05 GMT
Definitely the orange coloured saintly Gary who preaches to his disciples every Saturday night alongside prophets Alan of newcastle,Ian of Islington and Alex of I tick the right boxes for this job
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 16, 2023 8:57:03 GMT
Breaking news..... Man searches left leaning news articles to find the truth!! More breaking news... Man searches right leaning news articles to find news that fits his view!!! Fixed it for you... Thanks...😆😆
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 16, 2023 8:16:01 GMT
Breaking news.....
Man searches left leaning news articles to find news thats fits his view!!!
More breaking news...
Man searches right leaning news articles to find news that fits his view!!!
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 15, 2023 18:20:43 GMT
I'm actually looking forward to labour winning the next election..and yes I do think it's time for a change of government.
I've voted tory in the past but won't be voting either tory or Labour this time..
But I do wonder how this board is going to react when in 5 or 10 years we realise that actually labour are just as shit as the tories, with just as much scandal, just as many cronies, just as many millionaires donors and supporters..just as many policies which some help and some don't help the blue collared worker..
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 15, 2023 14:47:21 GMT
Yep the only tax cut, was for the very wealthy ... didn't see that one coming. And it seems the 30 hours of free childcare doesn't actually come into action until September 2025: "As a result, it will be a staged introduction, with 15 free hours of childcare for two-year-olds in April 2024, and in September 2024 for those aged over nine months, then 30 hours for all from September 2025." So another exaggerated lie in our budget for 2023/2024. I'm sure the BBC will make that clear in their headlines though. "30 hours free childcare for 2 year old and those aged above 9 months from September 2025, announced in the 2023/2024 budget" To be fair virtually all new financial measures announced at any budget start within 12 months of the announcement..like minimum wage announcements usually start in the next financial year...I presume unlike truss and her lets change this yesterday plans this is to give financial and business markets time to adapt ready for these changes..
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 15, 2023 14:41:26 GMT
Welcome the childcare changes. Don't really give a fuck about the energy ones because extra energy support in April may and June when usage is lower isn't gonna help as much as some think. On the whole though it doesn't really tackle any of the issues. How does it bring down mortgage rates, or energy prices, or fuel prices, or house prices, or food prices... To me it feels more of a confirmation that abusrb living costs are here to say. But if you have a child under 2 you may get a bit more support with childcare for a year if you're lucky. Oh and also help for high earners with tax changes to pensions so they can avoid more tax while furthering their financial position for retirement. Something normal working people can't even think of while they plan how to survive each week Nevermind thinking about how the survive on retirement. Yep the only tax cut, was for the very wealthy ... didn't see that one coming. At least Gary will be happy.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 14, 2023 21:36:59 GMT
I enjoy films so it makes sense to tune into the biggest movie awards ceremony to hopefully hear film stars talk about what they're expert in, what they're good at, and what has made the public even aware of who they are...what I haven't tuned in is for them to tell me I need to save the rainforest by wearing flip flops made of bamboo. You seem to want everything on your terms only, I'm surprised you haven't worked out unfortunately for most people it doesn't work out like that. Nah...just don't like multi millionaire hypocrites lecturing me
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 14, 2023 21:34:52 GMT
But the difference is...and I'll say it again this is a platform already discussing Gary Lineker and being viewed by people who choose to read and partake in those discussions.. What I'm not doing is posting my Gary Lineker views on the british jam and chutney debating society where they have no interest in hearing what I have to say about Gary Lineker.. or even have a debate topic headed Gary lineker Very funny video.. To balance things up I'd put the one up when Gervais told film stars not to preach politics, religion or any other topic to the public when accepting their golden globes or oscars.. but I have no idea how to share the video.. 👍
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 14, 2023 21:04:31 GMT
Come on....your repainting history... Blair and brown bankrupted this country.... To say the economy thrived under Labour is false....I worked in manufacturing during these eras...their policies made it virtually impossible to export any product made in the UK for a profit...cuts in pensions...redundancies...I agree the tories are not doing a good job but please don't pretend we thrived under 12+ years of new labour's reign. The de-industralizsation of the UK started under the Tories. The crash during the end of the Labour government was down to uber-capitalists making money out of sub prime loans. Brown saved the capitalist system (as was acknowledged by many economists at the time). Truss, in a matter of weeks, nearly trashed it. If you say so...
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 14, 2023 21:03:02 GMT
Oh dear...you've gone back to your question posts ago......I'll answer again. I'm on a chat forum designed for debate on page 42 of axdebate about Gary Lineker...I'm sharing my views on a forum where other people (including yourself) have through their choice shown interest in that topic and read others opinions and themselves joined in...what I'm not doing is sharing my views on a social media site to people which then ends up on national TV because I think my view is so important I have to tell everybody about it... Messageboards are a form of social media just like Twitter though? What you’ve described yourself doing is what Lineker did, only using a different platform. But the difference is...and I'll say it again this is a platform already discussing Gary Lineker and being viewed by people who choose to read and partake in those discussions.. What I'm not doing is posting my Gary Lineker views on the british jam and chutney debating society where they have no interest in hearing what I have to say about Gary Lineker.. or even have a debate topic headed Gary lineker
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 14, 2023 20:42:11 GMT
So when I tune into the Oscars and listen to an acceptance speech instead of the actor talking about his career or film which is why I've tuned in ..I have to listen to his view on the rain forest or whatever else he feels the world needs his wisdom. but you don't have to tune in, and if you know it's going to irritate you before tuning in, why bother? They aren't going to be talking about love island or stoke results at the oscars are they? unless this is all a bit whoosh, 'colin from portsmouth'? I enjoy films so it makes sense to tune into the biggest movie awards ceremony to hopefully hear film stars talk about what they're expert in, what they're good at, and what has made the public even aware of who they are...what I haven't tuned in is for them to tell me I need to save the rainforest by wearing flip flops made of bamboo.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 14, 2023 20:38:56 GMT
So when I tune into the Oscars and listen to an acceptance speech instead of the actor talking about his career or film which is why I've tuned in ..I have to listen to his view on the rain forest or whatever else he feels the world needs his wisdom. What's your job? And why are you talking about anything else?!! Oh dear...you've gone back to your question posts ago......I'll answer again. I'm on a chat forum designed for debate on page 42 of axdebate about Gary Lineker...I'm sharing my views on a forum where other people (including yourself) have through their choice shown interest in that topic and read others opinions and themselves joined in...what I'm not doing is sharing my views on a social media site to people which then ends up on national TV because I think my view is so important I have to tell everybody about it...
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 14, 2023 20:12:06 GMT
Exactly...finally you get me...why do famous people whether sportspeople, musicians or even film stars when the receive their oscars feel we need to hear their political views.....no we don't. Whether you personally like it or not, they have the right to an opinion the same as everyone else. So when I tune into the Oscars and listen to an acceptance speech instead of the actor talking about his career or film which is why I've tuned in ..I have to listen to his view on the rain forest or whatever else he feels the world needs his wisdom.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 14, 2023 19:56:14 GMT
More fool Greg Dyke then for donating millions to the labour party.. And fair play to Tony Blair for Conning Labour voters to vote for him as he masquerades as Labour Party leader not once...not twice...but three times.. And? I asked when the BBC was run by Socialists and you've come up with Dyke Opinions eh.... One man's socialist donor is another man's right wing fascist. I also came up with Davies...another bliar cronie.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 14, 2023 19:54:57 GMT
That's right and I'd be grateful if you could tell saint Lineker of Leicester to keep his views off my TV screen. You're just as outraged when famous people say things you agree with though obviously?.. Exactly...finally you get me...why do famous people whether sportspeople, musicians or even film stars when the receive their oscars feel we need to hear their political views.....no we don't.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 14, 2023 19:53:08 GMT
That's right and I'd be grateful if you could tell saint Lineker of Leicester to keep his views off my TV screen. About football? Or do you mean his views he expressed on Twitter? Don't follow him on twitter or any form of social media...so must of seen his comments endlessly shown on news programmes... Don't actually listen to him if and when I watch Motd.. I tend to fast forward to miss his smug grin and dad jokes.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 14, 2023 19:39:40 GMT
Only with those that are interested enough to open page 41 on a discussion thread titled Gary Linekar... I would say you opening and reading and then commenting on my views means you've read them, thought about them, and decided to join the discussion. As yet I haven't put my views on anything other than this topic forum So.. famous people cant share their views, because you might end up hearing them without asking to? That's right and I'd be grateful if you could tell saint Lineker of Leicester to keep his views off my TV screen.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 14, 2023 19:37:27 GMT
Multi millionaire labour supporter Gavyn Davies.. Former labour donor Greg Dyke.. Both friends of...wait for it... prime minister Tony Bliar. Both sides are as corrupt as each other...like I previously said it depends what we highlight to suit our own views or opinions.. Good night.... I'm off to watch the sky coverage of the game tonight..hoping the commentators remember their paid to talk football and not try to preach to me their political views. Greg Dyke absolutely is not a socialist and neither is Tony Blair for that matter More fool Greg Dyke then for donating millions to the labour party.. And fair play to Tony Blair for Conning Labour voters to vote for him as he masquerades as Labour Party leader not once...not twice...but three times..
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 14, 2023 19:24:51 GMT
Don't think I've ever said they can't have have a view... what I've said is why so they think we need to hear it.. I dont choose to hear it.. I don't ask for it.. but they somehow thing there celeb status gives them ultimate.ate wisdom in all things and they need to share their wisdom with the british public... no the majority of people don't care about your personnel views... If I want to buy a car I listen to a mechanic views not a footballer.. If I want to know about football I listen to a football expert not a mechanic. You're sharing your views with everyone.. Only with those that are interested enough to open page 41 on a discussion thread titled Gary Linekar... I would say you opening and reading and then commenting on my views means you've read them, thought about them, and decided to join the discussion. As yet I haven't put my views on anything other than this topic forum
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 14, 2023 19:15:05 GMT
Don't think I've ever said they can't have have a view... what I've said is why so they think we need to hear it.. I dont choose to hear it.. I don't ask for it.. but they somehow thing there celeb status gives them ultimate.ate wisdom in all things and they need to share their wisdom with the british public... no the majority of people don't care about your personnel views... If I want to buy a car I listen to a mechanic views not a footballer.. If I want to know about football I listen to a football expert not a mechanic. And is something or someone stopping you doing what you want? Not usually unless every tv show is full of prophet Lineker and his latest uninvited outburst.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 14, 2023 19:12:21 GMT
Martin Tyler for months and months said something along the lines of kneeling for BLM was not a choice it was mandatory before every game he commentated on. I consider that to be a political message and a hugely miscalculated one at that Maybe he thought it was? Either way fair enough, it's hardly a regular occurrence tho. I can't remember hearing Gary Lengchinker say anything political during the course of his work, I think Mr Bridgnorth's fears are unfounded tbh. You didn't hear Mr linekers political preach on the opening day of the Qatar World Cup then from his BBC studio.... He felt so strongly about qatar he forced himself to stay in their 5 star hotels for 5 weeks and take every opportunity to fill his insta pages of photos of himself enjoying himself sightseeing and enjoying the hospitality of the country he felt so strongly against.. The man's a hypocrite
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 14, 2023 19:08:08 GMT
Multi millionaire labour supporter Gavyn Davies.. Former labour donor Greg Dyke.. Both friends of...wait for it... prime minister Tony Bliar. Both sides are as corrupt as each other...like I previously said it depends what we highlight to suit our own views or opinions.. Good night.... I'm off to watch the sky coverage of the game tonight..hoping the commentators remember their paid to talk football and not try to preach to me their political views. I have to say I've never, ever heard any commentator or football pundit preach their political views during coverage of a game, have you? Are you of the opinion that football pundits and commentators shouldn't have any opinions away from the job they're paid for on anything other than the subject they're paid to cover? Don't think I've ever said they can't have have a view... what I've said is why so they think we need to hear it.. I dont choose to hear it.. I don't ask for it.. but they somehow thing there celeb status gives them ultimate.ate wisdom in all things and they need to share their wisdom with the british public... no the majority of people don't care about your personnel views... If I want to buy a car I listen to a mechanic views not a footballer.. If I want to know about football I listen to a football expert not a mechanic.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 14, 2023 18:50:59 GMT
Another issue could be that the BBC which has been run by socialists for so long and have pushed their own agendas suddenly don't like a capitalist as the chief exec daring to bring in some new ideas...which of course is gonna upset those on cosy massive contracts. When was the BBC run by Socialists? Please name some of these Socialists who ran the BBC Multi millionaire labour supporter Gavyn Davies.. Former labour donor Greg Dyke.. Both friends of...wait for it... prime minister Tony Bliar. Both sides are as corrupt as each other...like I previously said it depends what we highlight to suit our own views or opinions.. Good night.... I'm off to watch the sky coverage of the game tonight..hoping the commentators remember their paid to talk football and not try to preach to me their political views.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 14, 2023 17:38:58 GMT
No but I do think it's reasonable to question someone who has made millions off the back of capitalism based on Conservative policy to claim they are a Socialist. Why would you not agree with that? Fairly hypocritical is it not? Lineker has never claimed he's a socialist and this thread has nothing to do with capitalism or socialism. It's about the right of an individual (any individual) to make a political statement (right, left or anywhere in between) without being suspended from their job. Your whole worldview (the evil left and the saintly right) and the automatic association of beliefs (left=anti free market/repressive, right= pro free market/pro freedom) is just childishly simplistic. There are millions of people who vote for left of centre parties who also believe the free market has a role. The Labour Party ditched Clause 4 and the commitment to state ownership under Blair and it won't be coming back under Starmer. This country does not even have a mainstream socialist party. There is nothing inherently hypocritical about having earned money in a western democracy and holding left of centre/liberal views. In fact the economy thrived under Labour - it's the Tories who have fucked it up. The whole immigration/Brexit debate doesn't fall neatly along left/right lines either. There are plenty on the right who want immigration in order to provide a source of cheap labour and large numbers on the left (including Corbyn) who are anti-EU. Going back to the actual point of the thread - the right to express a political opinion without being sanctioned in the workplace. There are people on the right, left and centre ground of politics who agree that the decision to suspend Lineker was wrong. It's only those who believe the freedom of speech should extend to those who express the "correct" views that have an issue with this. You are just deflecting from the point of the thread to pedal your ridiculously simplistic black/white left/right view of politics. And demonising a state educated son of a market trader for making good and having the audacity for not being a right wing knobhead isn't a good look for someone supposedly in favour of the freedom of speech and the right to benefit from a free market economy. Come on....your repainting history... Blair and brown bankrupted this country.... To say the economy thrived under Labour is false....I worked in manufacturing during these eras...their policies made it virtually impossible to export any product made in the UK for a profit...cuts in pensions...redundancies...I agree the tories are not doing a good job but please don't pretend we thrived under 12+ years of new labour's reign.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 14, 2023 17:23:19 GMT
Another issue could be that the BBC which has been run by socialists for so long and have pushed their own agendas suddenly don't like a capitalist as the chief exec daring to bring in some new ideas...which of course is gonna upset those on cosy massive contracts. That's not what's happening here though is it? Those 'new ideas' have only come into play because government policy has been criticised. Prior to that, people in Lineker's position were permitted to express their views on non-BBC platforms. It isn't that the Chairman is a random 'capitalist', it's that he's a known Tory donor who was with the PM at Goldman Sachs and who helped the previous PM secure a large loan. Like I said in an earlier post all these famous people are in cahoots with each other... We just choose to highlight those that suit our opinion.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 14, 2023 17:20:38 GMT
At the end of the day Gary linekar is the highest paid presenter at the BBC... he hosts the flagship football show which highlights the nations favourite sport.....viewing figures for this legendary presenter and flagship show are just about 2 million.....2 million viewers for a footy mad nation to watch Premier league highlights without the need for subscription...
In my view that's pathetic viewing figures...less than half for strictly come dancing. Yet linekar is paid millions, why because he's doing an amazing job..erm no he's actually doing a crap job with dropping viewing figures.. but let's all believe he's worth every penny and he truly gives a damn about asylum seekers...
He's a tax dodging multi millionaire who thinks his woke opinion is of any value.. shut up Gary. Abide by the law of the land in which your paid millions of pounds of tax payers tv licence and pay your frigging taxes..
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 14, 2023 16:53:48 GMT
Socialist or capitalist....it makes no difference..all these high earning people are in cahoots with watch other with things we know nothing about...they peddle their own theories on our news programme hiding their vested interest in the topic from us the general public...for example.. news shows this last week have been full of alistair Campbell (once of Blair spin doctoring fame) giving his opinion of how bad the BBC were but how wonderful Gary Lineker was....what he or the news channel didn't tell us is that Alistair Campbell and Gary linekar are not only good friends but also joint owners of a company they run between them...so we're never gonna get an unbiased opinion from a best friend of one of the 2 parties at loggerheads...to balance it up I'm sure there are equally the same amount of friends/partners of capitalists that appear on TV defending their mates without us even knowing about their connections.. My point is until all news channels become honest in their choice and selection of people to talk about issues we are always going to get an opinion from someone who usually has a vested interest with someone involved in any scandal. News channels are aware of all these vested interests but continue to keep us in the dark and treat us like idiots. The real issue is the government appearing to intervene in the policy of the state broadcaster. Another issue could be that the BBC which has been run by socialists for so long and have pushed their own agendas suddenly don't like a capitalist as the chief exec daring to bring in some new ideas...which of course is gonna upset those on cosy massive contracts.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 14, 2023 16:43:51 GMT
Socialist or capitalist....it makes no difference..all these high earning people are in cahoots with each other and involved in things we know nothing about...they peddle their own theories on our news programme hiding their vested interest in the topic from us the general public...for example.. news shows this last week have been full of alistair Campbell (once of Blair spin doctoring fame) giving his opinion of how bad the BBC were but how wonderful Gary Lineker was....what he or the news channel didn't tell us is that Alistair Campbell and Gary linekar are not only good friends but also joint owners of a company they run between them...so we're never gonna get an unbiased opinion from a best friend of one of the 2 parties at loggerheads...to balance it up I'm sure there are equally the same amount of friends/partners of capitalists that appear on TV defending their mates without us even knowing about their connections..
My point is until all news channels become honest in their choice and selection of people to talk about issues we are always going to get an opinion from someone who usually has a vested interest with someone involved in any scandal. And wants to push their own agenda.
News channels are aware of all these vested interests but continue to keep us in the dark and treat us like idiots.
Although I am not gonna bother watching MOTD this weekend... cannot bare to see linekar and another of his mates shearer sat their with their smug little faces.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 13, 2023 10:50:15 GMT
Basically he's saying other teams should just let his team play the way they want and stop their naughty tactics which make his team look bad....
He's just let other managers know that his Sunderland team can't cope with being pressed, can't cope with any form of physicality and can't cope with the long ball over the top of his defence. Good work there Tony..🤣🤣
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 16:45:18 GMT
Love John Walters, was part of a Stoke city squad which gave me some of the best years years following Stoke since started 49 yrs ago.. My only interest on John Walters is what he did on the football pitch and his views towards Stoke city now.. i have no interest in hearing his political, religious or any other sort of views. To me he is a Stoke city legend not a social or political guru. But I’ve never seen you get vocal or come on here criticising him for it as after all ( using your stance ) he shouldn’t be pushing his personal views on social media …..probably because you agreed with his views Let’s leave it at that Must admit i don't follow John Walters or any other celeb on social media. So I have no idea what sjw views are..like I said I'm not really bothered what sjw political, social,religious or other views are apart from his Stoke city related views.
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