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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 14:11:10 GMT
A refugee.. is quoted as someone fleeing war, persecution, or natural disaster.. There is a difference between refugee, illegal immigrants and asylum seekers...I think it only fair we don't label all the same and learn to spot the difference between each category..one size does not fit all..
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 13:49:43 GMT
Who is the "his viewpoint of hating the tories" referring to you mention in this exchange please. Hang on while I scroll back through the thread and check that for you 🙄 It was a reply from matelot1996 to pottypotterer where matelot1996 accused him of an 'irrational' hatred, so I suppose 'his views' could mean either of them, you quoted something I hadn't said so I'm a bit confused. Either way, it seems you got the wrong end of the stick, or the wrong stick Edit - don't know what happened there, seems you changed it from 'his views' whilst I was checking the thread for you! Talk about dirty tactics! Just making sure I put the correct language in print.. Have a good day been interesting chatting with you.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 13:48:00 GMT
Probably because I couldn't care less about the apprentice or a car show.. I'm interested in football and don't like football presenters mis using their privilege to push their personal views. Also if you read my earlier posts youll see I don't like Lineker because of his smug arrogant attitude presenting MOTD.. bit yes I do believe the show needs updating with fresh presenters.. What do you think about John Walters? Love John Walters, was part of a Stoke city squad which gave me some of the best years years following Stoke since started 49 yrs ago.. My only interest on John Walters is what he did on the football pitch and his views towards Stoke city now.. i have no interest in hearing his political, religious or any other sort of views. To me he is a Stoke city legend not a social or political guru.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 13:36:29 GMT
Not in one post I have posted have I said linekars view is irrational. If you go back to my original reply to matelot1996 it was his point about an 'irrational' rant from another poster that I was responding to, I assumed you'd read it. I thought it would follow therefore that your point would be at least somewhat relevant to that point and interacted accordingly. Edit - nobody except you in this exchange has said anything about Linnekker Who is the "his viewpoint of hating the tories" referring to you mention in this exchange please.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 13:33:04 GMT
Wow.. I didn't realise that good old multi millionaire voice of the people linekar is a tax avoider.. another reason for me not to want to hear his empty views on all things political.. Best put your tin hat on though. The majority view on here is he's the Knight in shining white armour riding in to bring some moral compass to this country.. yep , as you rightly point out , the intelligent amongst us , know that if we only had more tax avoidance in this country, everything would be okay . as you point out , lack of housing , food poverty etc , could all be cured by more tax avoidance . millionaires like denise coates who pay their taxes ,are the cause of all our problems . give us more fake socialists like lineker , who spout solidarity with the working man , while refusing to pay their taxes and the world will be a better place Maybe Mr Linekar....as a good will gesture and in keeping with his beliefs could match the amount of tax he owes the British government and build some nice shiny new housing in his nice upper class English village he has his mansion home to house the asylum seekers he claims he is speaking up for.. now that would be a man putting his money where his mouth and beliefs apparently are.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 13:21:50 GMT
As I said whether under a labour or tory government south Wales is still a shit hole.....maybe the local mp's aren't doing a very good job in representing the needs of their communities Yes ok, maybe they're not, but since the Tories got elected in Stoke it seems funding has been forthcoming that wasn't available before, I don't imagine it'd be any different under Labour if it was Labour MPs and a Labour government but there's a few years catching up to be done before we're anywhere near parity. All of this is completely by the by, it still doesn't make his viewpoint of 'hating Tories' in any way irrational. I'm glad Stoke have had more funding.. Not in one post I have posted have I said linekars view is irrational...
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 13:12:28 GMT
This storm is all about an ex footballer who thinks the world need to hear his political views.. I don't watch MOTD now mainly because I can't stand the smug, arrogant, self righteous and over paid Mr Linekar So I sure as hell have no more interest in listening to his political views than he has of mine.. The sooner these celebs just get on with their jobs and not lecture everybody else the better... Here's hoping for a new modern style of MOTD without a 30 yrs retired ex player. I totally agree but there is more to Lineker than being smug , arrogant self righteous and over paid . Unlike Denise Coates , who earns lots of money and pays her taxes on it , Lineker wants to give his views and be a tax avoider . challenged by the HMRC , who claimed his tax avoidance is illegal and threatened to take him to court , Lineker said okay I will pay them but then I am also contesting them . This means in effect , he can afford to pay his taxes ( like Denise Coates ) , he just doesn't want to . So arrogant self righteous man , who doesn't want to pay his taxes and is doing everything in his power to get out of paying them, is going around telling people who do pay their taxes ( your average working man , who pays PAYE) , that they want their taxes spent on this and that . THEIR taxes ! He personally will be doing his best to pay no tax at all . Wow.. I didn't realise that good old multi millionaire voice of the people linekar is a tax avoider.. another reason for me not to want to hear his empty views on all things political.. Best put your tin hat on though. The majority view on here is he's the Knight in shining white armour riding in to bring some moral compass to this country..
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 13:00:24 GMT
As the last Labour government did a sterling job?? Illegal war which cost many young people their lives. Did human rights lawyer chery Blair not benefited from her husbands stint as PM?? is that like the blair/brown policies bankrupting the country and good old honest Gordon brown son of a working class minister dipping into the uk pension funds to hide the mess he was making?? Breaking policies..again a bit like the illegal invasion of Iraq.?? To every coin is 2 sides.. it just depends how we look at that coin.. I've always thought the majority of people have their political views ingrained into them as they grow up... but I do find it strange that...for example an area like south Wales has always had labour mps representing that area..whether under a tory or Labour government. And it will probably have Labour mp's representing them for the next 100 yrs..because that's what they do..yet through all this south Wales is still a shit hole, dying towns, high unemployment, little or no new industry... yet the people will still put their x in the Labour box next election suddenly expecting things to change....that could be said for many areas across the UK.. but hey ho let's all blame the tory fir us voting for the same shit representatives year after year. There's probably some sort of correlation between the funding a place gets and it's political allegiance, if it's not with the government then they don't get the funding, we've seen it in Stoke for years. The point is, given their record, you could hardly describe the viewpoint as 'irrational' - it's anything but. As I said whether under a labour or tory government south Wales is still a shit hole.....maybe the local mp's aren't doing a very good job in representing the needs of their communities
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 12:38:47 GMT
I wasn’t going to read the Guardian This Morning but that post saved me the bother. It’s clear from your ramblings that most of your brain capacity is occupied processing your irrational hatred of the Tories. Your post is full of bile and nonsense without actually answering my question. Just keep screaming hyperbole like racist, vile, scum and extreme right wing and you lose any credibility. I prefer my politics and moderate adult conversations. "irrational hatred of the Tories." Irrational? Why is it irrational? Because they've done such a sterling job of running the country? Because there haven't been numerous claims of them sticking their snouts in the trough and helping themselves to public funds? Because they didn't crash the economy and decimate people's pension funds? Because they didn't prosecute people for breaking rules they made up but broke themselves? I'm intrigued. As the last Labour government did a sterling job?? Illegal war which cost many young people their lives. Did human rights lawyer chery Blair not benefited from her husbands stint as PM?? is that like the blair/brown policies bankrupting the country and good old honest Gordon brown son of a working class minister dipping into the uk pension funds to hide the mess he was making?? Breaking policies..again a bit like the illegal invasion of Iraq.?? To every coin is 2 sides.. it just depends how we look at that coin.. I've always thought the majority of people have their political views ingrained into them as they grow up... but I do find it strange that...for example an area like south Wales has always had labour mps representing that area..whether under a tory or Labour government. And it will probably have Labour mp's representing them for the next 100 yrs..because that's what they do..yet through all this south Wales is still a shit hole, dying towns, high unemployment, little or no new industry... yet the people will still put their x in the Labour box next election suddenly expecting things to change....that could be said for many areas across the UK.. but hey ho let's all blame the tory fir us voting for the same shit representatives year after year.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 12:10:38 GMT
It's my human right that I dont want to listen to multi millionaire ex footballers telling me their political views. I can post on the Internet as I don't have a contract requesting I remain impartial on sensitive issues. Personally I don't actually believe Mr linekar gives a damn about the chaos on our South Coast towns due to illegal immigrants...it would of been refreshing if Mr linekar had remembered to local people living in South Coast towns whose lives and livelihoods are being affected by the influx of illegal immigrants..or even how hotels have been taken over to house these people free of charge because we have nowhere else to house them...bit those views don't meet the new woke views were having forced on us. It's funny that despite giving his views on qatar during the world cup...it didn't stop him remembering and carrying out his contract with the BBC to spend 5 weeks in a 5star Qatar Hotel while filling his inst page with snaps of him and shearer enjoying the sightseeing.. .. shame he didn't remember his contract before his latest outburst. He's just another overpaid celeb who thinks he has to be hip with his leftie views... Asylum applications are half what they were 6 years ago but processing of applications within 6 months has fallen from 90 percent to 4 percent. Which is why they're stuck in hotels. It's a policy problem but it's easier to put together a catchy headline and win votes rather than work to come up with a proper solution. If only we had a system which could separate the genuine asylum seekers to the illegal immigrants...as both are not the same and should be treated differently.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 11:37:19 GMT
Showing modern day tolerance I greatly respect your view although I ask you show me tolerance and respect in my view I think MOTD Should be modernised with a more relevant younger presenter.... Don't think des was a professional player...but to be honest that's going even further back than what the modern game is now. Sorry, if you’re going to post on a messageboard then your view might be challenged. Them’s the breaks. Who do you have in mind as a more relevant presenter? Would, say, Jermaine Jenas really add more to the show? It's got to be suzy izzard... she's bang on street at the moment
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 11:27:32 GMT
That's the beauty...to some Lineker was spot on ...but to others he wasn't... The tory party under sunak and hunt are more central/left of the tory party than to the right of the tory party...bit let's not let facts get in the way of accusing anybody who doesn't agree with the left as a far right supporter.. 😂 Sunak is a man of the people Has anybody on this thread claimed to be a sunak fan or that he is a man of the people....or are you putting words in people's mouths. Anyway that's me done.. as I'm just leaving a swanky 5 star london hotel travelling first class train to be met by my chauffer driven mecedes after watching the abba voyage show from my VIP box.... just the same as every other right wing nutter.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 11:24:20 GMT
Sorry, if you’re going to post on a messageboard then your view might be challenged. Them’s the breaks. Who do you have in mind as a more relevant presenter? Would, say, Jermaine Jenas really add more to the show? Let’s cut to the chase mate They hide behind the fact he’s too old when what they really mean us they don’t like him due to his his views They aren’t appearing on the apprentice thread or any old top gear threads to voice their disapproval Leave them too it Probably because I couldn't care less about the apprentice or a car show.. I'm interested in football and don't like football presenters mis using their privilege to push their personal views. Also if you read my earlier posts youll see I don't like Lineker because of his smug arrogant attitude presenting MOTD.. bit yes I do believe the show needs updating with fresh presenters..
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 11:22:10 GMT
Let’s cut to the chase mate They hide behind the fact he’s too old when what they really mean us they don’t like him due to his his views They aren’t appearing on the apprentice thread or any old top gear threads to voice their disapproval Leave them too it We’ve let them to for it for far too long. The Tory party and its followers are more akin to UKIP and probably a bit more right than that now. It’s terrifying and gone unchecked. They need to be start being called out for what it is. Hence why Linenker was spot on. That's the beauty...to some Lineker was spot on ...but to others he wasn't... The tory party under sunak and hunt are more central/left of the tory party than to the right of the tory party...bit let's not let facts get in the way of accusing anybody who doesn't agree with the left as a far right supporter..
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 10:56:28 GMT
Don't be confused....if you've read my earlier threads you'll see I don't watch MOTD mainly due to Mr Linekar.. you'll see I think MOTD needs modernising a With a host that didn't retire from playing over 30 yrs ago.. So no I don't think Mr linekar is the best for the job. The host doesn’t provide any analysis himself so I don’t see why his having retired from football is relevant? Had Des Lynam recently packed in a career as an uncompromising centre half when he presented it? Showing modern day tolerance I greatly respect your view although I ask you show me tolerance and respect in my view I think MOTD Should be modernised with a more relevant younger presenter.... Don't think des was a professional player...but to be honest that's going even further back than what the modern game is now.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 9:00:50 GMT
Looking forward to Raul Paul hosting MOTD....forget the fact of having the best person for the job doing it, let's make sure we tick those diversity boxes first... Wait.... So now you want linekar to do it??? I'm confused Don't be confused....if you've read my earlier threads you'll see I don't watch MOTD mainly due to Mr Linekar.. you'll see I think MOTD needs modernising a With a host that didn't retire from playing over 30 yrs ago.. So no I don't think Mr linekar is the best for the job.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 8:58:17 GMT
This storm is all about an ex footballer who thinks the world need to hear his political views.. I don't watch MOTD now mainly because I can't stand the smug, arrogant, self righteous and over paid Mr Linekar So I sure as hell have no more interest in listening to his political views than he has of mine.. The sooner these celebs just get on with their jobs and not lecture everybody else the better... Here's hoping for a new modern style of MOTD without a 30 yrs retired ex player. Just out of interest what is wrong with sharing views? Additionally how is it different to posting on a forum on the internet? I thought it was considered a basic human right to have a voice? Deeply worried by the confused ideologies even within the microcosm of this thread. It's my human right that I dont want to listen to multi millionaire ex footballers telling me their political views. I can post on the Internet as I don't have a contract requesting I remain impartial on sensitive issues. Personally I don't actually believe Mr linekar gives a damn about the chaos on our South Coast towns due to illegal immigrants...it would of been refreshing if Mr linekar had remembered to local people living in South Coast towns whose lives and livelihoods are being affected by the influx of illegal immigrants..or even how hotels have been taken over to house these people free of charge because we have nowhere else to house them...bit those views don't meet the new woke views were having forced on us. It's funny that despite giving his views on qatar during the world cup...it didn't stop him remembering and carrying out his contract with the BBC to spend 5 weeks in a 5star Qatar Hotel while filling his inst page with snaps of him and shearer enjoying the sightseeing.. .. shame he didn't remember his contract before his latest outburst. He's just another overpaid celeb who thinks he has to be hip with his leftie views...
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 8:43:50 GMT
Unfortunately the BBC won't learn The irony is that is not what people from ethnic minorities, the transgender community and disabled people want. They would just like to see a decent programme the same as we all would. Interesting that you think you speak for all of those people despite (assumingly) not being any of them. Also worth remembering is that there's a lot of people who aren't of those persuasions that also think equal representation and diversity is not a bad thing Looking forward to Raul Paul hosting MOTD....forget the fact of having the best person for the job doing it, let's make sure we tick those diversity boxes first...
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 12, 2023 8:29:10 GMT
This storm is all about an ex footballer who thinks the world need to hear his political views..
I don't watch MOTD now mainly because I can't stand the smug, arrogant, self righteous and over paid Mr Linekar
So I sure as hell have no more interest in listening to his political views than he has of mine..
The sooner these celebs just get on with their jobs and not lecture everybody else the better...
Here's hoping for a new modern style of MOTD without a 30 yrs retired ex player.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 11, 2023 18:45:38 GMT
I like brown and his 100% he brings to every game.. sometimes it doesn't go his way and he looks a mid table championship player at best.....but in many ways he reminds me of Richard Cresswell a player we always thought " surely we can get better and what does he bring" but he, like Brown is an Effective and honest player in our system and for all his shortcomings helps create an effective front 3 all working hard and working together as a unit..
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 10, 2023 20:49:45 GMT
Shearer and Wright are on sticky ground. I may be wrong, but basically they are refusing to do there job. If I refused to turn up for my job to show support for someone sending a message on social media, don't think my company would be impressed. Pretty sure wrighty is freelance Be interesting when they're contracts are up for renewal...the BBC bigwigs won't forget this solidarity rubbish
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 10, 2023 19:12:18 GMT
Weird how walker and his old man stay on the Stoke chat page
But Lineker and the largest football show on British TV gets moved to everything else..
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 10, 2023 19:07:44 GMT
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 10, 2023 18:57:50 GMT
It's getting better...
Lineker...
Then Wright....
Now shearer..
MOTD Should be worth a WatchSaturday...
...might even have a host and panel on who didn't retire from football 25+ years ago.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 10, 2023 18:19:08 GMT
Good, have lost all time for Gary Lineker over the last few years, with his smug arrogant attitude and childish sense of humour..
He's a former footballer who made the best of his talent, he's not a political, social, spiritual, lgtb, disabled or any other kind of expert (Qatar a perfect example - pompous telling us how unfair Qatar have been but happy to stay in their 5star hotels and fill his insta of him sightseeing around the country) yet he thinks we need to hear him jump on any bandwagon and tell us his opinions... no we don't Mr Lineker so please enjoy your Saturday night off and please take the king of dullness Mr shearer with you.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 4, 2023 17:55:31 GMT
Considering he's a loan player he really feels like one of our own. First season as a senior footballer and growing week by week. Must be a priority to sign in the Summer but will it happen? Sadly, if soton go down I think our chances to sign him will be gone. Wardprowse will certainly leave soton to stay in the prem and then in steps smallbone as his replacement.. The same could very well happen with Pearson if bournemouth go down.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 4, 2023 16:48:27 GMT
Smallbone is MOTM. Pure class. 3 assists. Leads the press and is absolutely incessant with it. Making a few on here eat their words. We need soton and Bournemouth to stay up if we've got any chance of keeping smallbone and pearson
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 3, 2023 22:31:12 GMT
The whole Calender thing is a bit dated Yeah, it's so last year.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 2, 2023 16:29:10 GMT
Soton, Leeds and please let it be wolves to come down...but sadly think their new manager will keep them up.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Feb 28, 2023 21:50:49 GMT
The one thing I did like tonight was the size of our team in the later stages...big and strong is the way forward.. and was great to see Lowe pit their cb on his backside at one point..and how rattled did their players and manager (reminded me of wenger getting worked up) get as we got stuck into them..
Hopefully Neil will bring back the "land of the giants" and we outplay and outmuscle other teams from next year. Mentally Beat them before they even get on the pitch..
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