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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Mar 21, 2009 20:12:21 GMT
There just has to be a boo boy for people doesnt there ? He had a poor game and was subbed no need to boo, Beattie was toss today but nobody is having a go at him , tossers BECAUSE BEATTIE ACTUALLY CARED ENOUGH TO AT LEAST TRY AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! TOSSER!
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Mar 21, 2009 20:13:51 GMT
Diao tried just wasnt his game in fact it was a piss poor game even faye was average today, Pulis took him off so why do you have to have one of youer own players to moan about wanker boy
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Post by Pottermr on Mar 21, 2009 20:14:13 GMT
good player in his day knows when to foul and spoil the play but im sorry his legs have gone he simply cant do what he knows he CAN its time to leave him out
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Post by jarhead on Mar 21, 2009 20:14:40 GMT
jonny see the light you idiot
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Post by Soi Cowboy on Mar 21, 2009 20:17:20 GMT
Turning into a MENSA discussion this thread
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 21, 2009 20:17:27 GMT
By booing him though, you knock the confidence away from ALL the players. The Brit is famous for it fans singing and cheering our boys on. If you start booing players then our team are going to be as scared of crowd as the away teams are I said earlier in the thread that I don't at all condone what happened today, however I don't agree that the jeering will effect the other players. The other players in the team know he's rubbish as well, and probably weren't in the least bit surprised by the reaction of a few supporters. Whelan has been quoted raving about the fans today on another thread. What happened today shouldn't have happened, but lord knows why Pulis didn't sub him at half time to avoid any of it in the first place.
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Mar 21, 2009 20:18:44 GMT
Diao tried just wasnt his game in fact it was a piss poor game even faye was average today, Pulis took him off so why do you have to have one of youer own players to moan about wanker boy He didn't try though did he. He ambled about and fucked up everything that came his way. How did he try by lumping the ball straight back to the opposition and bashing in to his teammates? I can't recall him making a tackle and the referee not blowing up for it.
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Post by jacka118 on Mar 21, 2009 20:18:54 GMT
A bit harsh, i fell quite sorry for him...but he had a terrible first half and had to go off
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Post by jarhead on Mar 21, 2009 20:19:24 GMT
Did he sub him on 50 mins?! What was the point the prat all he did was help give Diao the jeers he deserved.
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Post by march4 on Mar 21, 2009 20:20:35 GMT
Have to disagree with you here Paul. Salif is the natural leader of the group. The other players look up to him as a person off the field. Demoralising Salif is not the best thing to do if we wish to maintain the bond between players and fans.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Mar 21, 2009 20:21:01 GMT
I just dont get why some of always have to have someone to moan at, we are doing way beyond expectation , today was a poor game , in my opinion our worst performance at home, thats because of the pressure but the result was great. Slaif was poor today and got subbed no need for anything else to happen , all of our midifeld are playing above their level in this league but doing enough to hopefully keep us up and if they do it will be possibly the greatest achievement in the clubs history , but there will still be people here slagging players and the manger unbefuckinglievable in my view
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Mar 21, 2009 20:21:14 GMT
Diao and Sorensen are the weak links in an otherwise distinctly strong side. Idiot SGS
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Mar 21, 2009 20:21:24 GMT
Diao tried just wasnt his game in fact it was a piss poor game even faye was average today, Pulis took him off so why do you have to have one of youer own players to moan about wanker boy You think Diao tried today? At all? Even 10%? Righto, I'll take that, and couple it with one of the worst attempts of abuse I think I'v ever had aimed at me in 'wanker boy', and I think it's safe for me to conclude that you are surely retarded.
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Mar 21, 2009 20:24:08 GMT
I just dont get why some of always have to have someone to moan at, we are doing way beyond expectation , today was a poor game , in my opinion our worst performance at home, thats because of the pressure but the result was great. Slaif was poor today and got subbed no need for anything else to happen , all of our midifeld are playing above their level in this league but doing enough to hopefully keep us up and if they do it will be possibly the greatest achievement in the clubs history , but there will still be people here slagging players and the manger unbefuckinglievable in my view Lets all clap and cheer and clap and cheer. We don't need our own opinion. Your right mate. Diao is the best player in the league in his position. No doubt about it.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 21, 2009 20:26:02 GMT
Have to disagree with you here Paul. Salif is the natural leader of the group. The other players look up to him as a person off the field. Demoralising Salif is not the best thing to do if we wish to maintain the bond between players and fans. Surely Abdoulaye is the natural leader of the group. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one mate, the players themselves KNOW they play better when Salif's not in the side, I don't think the bond between the players and the fans was at all affected by a few ironic cheers when he was subbed. Not that I condone the jeering.
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Post by kingdeano on Mar 21, 2009 20:26:22 GMT
Diao was poor yes but Pulis should have taken him off at half time.. that way the poor lad wouldn't ahve had to listen to a section of the supporters jeering him. He looked totally fed up when he went down the tunnel. hopefully he kept walking and is now on his way manchester to get the plane to senegal!
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Post by padders01 on Mar 21, 2009 20:26:57 GMT
He wasn't good enough today AGAIN.
It's quite simple. If you dont play well enough then we have other players to take their place.
To be honest, i bet the other players were glad he went off, at the end of the day they have to carry him when he plays as wank as he has done in the last two months
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Post by march4 on Mar 21, 2009 20:28:31 GMT
We agree on not jeering your own players Paul and that is the main issue.
Abdy is not a natural leader in spite of his size and the captaincy of the team.
He likes to be a part of the group - not the stand out spokesperson of the group. In the past this has been Matteo and now it is Salif.
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Mar 21, 2009 20:32:39 GMT
We agree on not jeering your own players Paul and that is the main issue. Abdy is not a natural leader in spite of his size and the captaincy of the team. He likes to be a part of the group - not the stand out spokesperson of the group. In the past this has been Matteo and now it is Salif. Can I ask what you've seen in Diao that in any way represents a leader and/or spokesperson?
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Post by march4 on Mar 21, 2009 20:35:24 GMT
We agree on not jeering your own players Paul and that is the main issue. Abdy is not a natural leader in spite of his size and the captaincy of the team. He likes to be a part of the group - not the stand out spokesperson of the group. In the past this has been Matteo and now it is Salif. Can I ask what you've seen in Diao that in any way represents a leader and/or spokesperson? He just is, trust me. He can be very outspoken, but is loyal to the current management and acts as a go between for the players and coaches. Akinbayi did a similar job for TP.
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Post by Soi Cowboy on Mar 21, 2009 20:35:40 GMT
Have noticed lately that TP has waited until about 50 minutes until making subs- Villa first saw this.
My take is that he waits to see if the other teams change their shape etc at half time before deciding how to line up. Might be wrong but makes sense
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Mar 21, 2009 20:36:57 GMT
Can I ask what you've seen in Diao that in any way represents a leader and/or spokesperson? He just is, trust me. Oh, right well then thats completely changed my view on the whole situation.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Mar 21, 2009 20:39:05 GMT
Its not clapping poor performances its supporting the players on the pitch whilst the game is on . Diao had a bad gsame today . Lots of players have bad games, the cheering today was a reminder of the bad side of Stoke fans which i dont want to see . Our support has been a massive factor this season at long last . Lets keep it that way
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Post by Smudge_SCFC on Mar 21, 2009 20:39:47 GMT
March4,
I genuinely can't agree that Salif is a natural leader of that group mate. He has just been so poor of late that the example he has been setting cannot have had a good effect on the other players - most of whom have been working their knackers off for the team.
It's not personal, it's just Salif has been turning in passenger performances for far too long now.
Credit to TP for taking a brave step in going with a midfield of Whelan and Delap. He is learning his lessons and that is what will keep us in this division.
I am delighted to see his development as a manager.
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Post by beagriestache on Mar 21, 2009 20:41:22 GMT
Diao was shite right enough. I hope Pulis puts his arm round him and tells him everyone has a stinker someday son.
Cheering him off was wank.
Never seen any sense at all in having a go at your own players. Utterly counter-productive at best. You won't find that approach in any motivational manual.
No doubt there'll be people of the "paid my money, I'll say what I like" opinion. Yes, you have and you can. But you won't be helping Stoke's cause, so have a think.
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Mar 21, 2009 20:46:57 GMT
Diao was shite right enough. I hope Pulis puts his arm round him and tells him everyone has a stinker someday son. Cheering him off was wank. Never seen any sense at all in having a go at your own players. Utterly counter-productive at best. You won't find that approach in any motivational manual. No doubt there'll be people of the "paid my money, I'll say what I like" opinion. Yes, you have and you can. But you won't be helping Stoke's cause, so have a think. Depends if you think that having Diao in the team is helping Stoke's cause or not really dosn't it. I don't boo/geer/sarcasticly cheer any Stoke player on the basis of poor form, but what does grate with me, is when I see a player stroling around the pitch, giving less effort than a disabled pigeon doped up on Rohypnol would.
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Post by padders01 on Mar 21, 2009 20:47:40 GMT
March4, I genuinely can't agree that Salif is a natural leader of that group mate. He has just been so poor of late that the example he has been setting cannot have had a good effect on the other players - most of whom have been working their knackers off for the team. It's not personal, it's just Salif has been turning in passenger performances for far too long now. Credit to TP for taking a brave step in going with a midfield of Whelan and Delap. He is learning his lessons and that is what will keep us in this division. I am delighted to see his development as a manager. Got to agree with that
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2009 20:49:01 GMT
Have to disagree with you here Paul. Salif is the natural leader of the group. The other players look up to him as a person off the field. Demoralising Salif is not the best thing to do if we wish to maintain the bond between players and fans. I'm sorry that is complete bollucks...you talk crap you really do...Salif a natural leader....rubbish....and I would suggest the bond between fans and team has never been greater.
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Post by beagriestache on Mar 21, 2009 20:51:52 GMT
Diao was shite right enough. I hope Pulis puts his arm round him and tells him everyone has a stinker someday son. Cheering him off was wank. Never seen any sense at all in having a go at your own players. Utterly counter-productive at best. You won't find that approach in any motivational manual. No doubt there'll be people of the "paid my money, I'll say what I like" opinion. Yes, you have and you can. But you won't be helping Stoke's cause, so have a think. Depends if you think that having Diao in the team is helping Stoke's cause or not really dosn't it. I don't boo/geer/sarcasticly cheer any Stoke player on the basis of poor form, but what does grate with me, is when I see a player stroling around the pitch, giving less effort than a disabled pigeon doped up on Rohypnol would. I don't think that was the case. He had a bad game, simple as. Having a go is counter-productive. Simple as.
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Post by stokiemama14 on Mar 21, 2009 20:52:13 GMT
we did play better when salif went off tho :/
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