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Post by GlynDerby on Jan 13, 2009 17:19:47 GMT
....Its going to set a very dangerous precedent........
How many people sang "your gonna get F@@ked in the showers" to Gerrard?
What if Some anal from Staffs police considers this "Offensive"? They 'll be able trawl through the CCTV and quite a lot of people will be serving life time bans....
The Portsmouth/spurs song may well have been at the extreme end of chanting but who draws that line.......
Be warned people, after this conviction it just gives the police even more power to try and shaft you at football along with that section 27 rubbish.
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Post by offthewall on Jan 13, 2009 17:28:24 GMT
Next one who calls me baldy slap head is in for it!
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Jan 13, 2009 17:40:37 GMT
A bit different though the Cambell chant is racist and that's where the line is draw at the minute.
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Post by stokie01 on Jan 13, 2009 17:41:19 GMT
what ???
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Post by GlynDerby on Jan 13, 2009 17:44:12 GMT
A bit different though the Cambell chant is racist and that's where the line is draw at the minute. It wasnt racist, hence them being charged over offensive chanting rathe than racist chanting |
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Post by sutekh on Jan 13, 2009 17:45:47 GMT
And how exactly was it racist?
Homophobic yes,but racist ???
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Post by GlynDerby on Jan 13, 2009 17:47:25 GMT
This was the Chant that has landed them in court....
"Sol, Sol, wherever you may be, You’re on the verge of lunacy, And we don’t give a f*** if you’re hanging from a tree, You Judas c*** with HIV."
Pretty offensive but no racist remarks in that.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 13, 2009 17:50:04 GMT
I think your fears are well founded. Rumours of what was chanted on the day vary enourmously and many chants we deem as fairly innocent could be deemed offensive or likely to cause a riot.
Conduct inside football stadiums is not above or beyond the law but some sensible allowances need to be made. I think they will still find it very hard to make some of the arrests made yesterday stick and it will be interesting to know what the Police do if Pompey fans tell Defoe and Redknapp exactly what a pair of c(_)nts they are tomorrow tonight.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 13, 2009 17:54:29 GMT
This was the Chant that has landed them in court.... "Sol, Sol, wherever you may be, You’re on the verge of lunacy, And we don’t give a f*** if you’re hanging from a tree, You Judas c*** with HIV." Pretty offensive but no racist remarks in that. They've chanted that since the day he moved to Arsenal why did it become an arrestable offense in 2008? Probably the same reason why 50,000 people got offended by a radio broadcast they didn't hear. |
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Post by bertieb on Jan 13, 2009 18:10:52 GMT
offthewall,
shut up you baldy slaphead ;D
RS
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 13, 2009 18:11:11 GMT
This was the Chant that has landed them in court.... "Sol, Sol, wherever you may be, You’re on the verge of lunacy, And we don’t give a f*** if you’re hanging from a tree, You Judas c*** with HIV." Pretty offensive but no racist remarks in that. And not homophobic either. |
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Post by crimesy on Jan 13, 2009 18:14:33 GMT
This was the Chant that has landed them in court.... "Sol, Sol, wherever you may be, You’re on the verge of lunacy, And we don’t give a f*** if you’re hanging from a tree, You Judas c*** with HIV." Pretty offensive but no racist remarks in that. the HIV s linking him to africa so it actually is racist but in a very suttle way.. i think it's pathetic that people are being locked up for singing this though. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 13, 2009 18:16:44 GMT
I think they will still find it very hard to make some of the arrests made yesterday stick ... Indeed momo. It's going take one hell of a brave judge(s) to set one almighty precedent! |
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Post by TheBeautifulGame on Jan 13, 2009 18:17:12 GMT
No, no, no you've come about this all wrong.
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Post by ackney on Jan 13, 2009 18:23:49 GMT
A bit different though the Cambell chant is racist and that's where the line is draw at the minute. chant is not racist FACT |
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Post by ackney on Jan 13, 2009 18:25:28 GMT
This was the Chant that has landed them in court.... "Sol, Sol, wherever you may be, You’re on the verge of lunacy, And we don’t give a f*** if you’re hanging from a tree, You Judas c*** with HIV." Pretty offensive but no racist remarks in that. sol sol whereever you may be NOT LONG NOW TILL LUNACY judas is where he sold us down the river and took the silver shilling of the goons. led down the garden path run down his contract whilst he and his agent at time said he loved spurs and was going nowhere. knew exactly was he was doing judas cnut. infact we'll be very surrpised if the fruitcake turns up |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 13, 2009 18:38:25 GMT
It will be interesting to see whether a jury will convict if the cases are heard by a jury. Do we know yet whether these are likely to go to Magistrates Court or before a judge and jury?
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Jan 13, 2009 18:49:11 GMT
Legal or otherwise - we can do without this sort of garbage being sung in football grounds
Way out of line and I hope that they get done - make some numpties think about the possible damage that they are doing
I believe that Cambell has suffered from mental problems and Gerard too to a degree
Football will be better off without this rubbish
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Post by offthewall on Jan 13, 2009 18:52:04 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 13, 2009 18:52:14 GMT
Legal or otherwise - we can do without this sort of garbage being sung in football grounds Way out of line and I hope that they get done - make some numpties think about the possible damage that they are doing I believe that Cambell has suffered from mental problems and Gerard too to a degree Football will be better off without this rubbish No room for "Who's the bastard in the black?" then Wise Master? |
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Post by tsm on Jan 13, 2009 18:52:51 GMT
Singing about a black man hanging from a tree is not racist now? Nobody knows the "Strange Fruit" song or its origins? No one seen that infamous photo of the lynching in Marion, Indiana?
Hmm.
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Post by scfclifer on Jan 13, 2009 18:58:19 GMT
it will be interesting should the whole of the lane sing it at the game what they gonna do if that happens ???
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 13, 2009 19:01:30 GMT
Singing about a black man hanging from a tree is not racist now? Nobody knows the "Strange Fruit" song or its origins? No one seen that infamous photo of the lynching in Marion, Indiana? Hmm. tsm I don't really want to get into an overly intellectual discussion with you here fella, but didn't Judas Escariot, erm ... hang himself? |
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Post by stonestokie! on Jan 13, 2009 19:01:53 GMT
for the campbell chants, hasn't two 15 year olds and a 13 year old being charged? LOL
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Post by meladben on Jan 13, 2009 19:07:24 GMT
i think there is a line to be drawn somewhere but this is a bit far fetched ....if we aren't careful we'll be back to clappin away teams goals and no atmosphere ...circa 1940's ...and those who want that can go old trafford,emirates or anfield
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Post by second season tree on Jan 13, 2009 19:09:55 GMT
i think you're all missing the big point here
only flash north londers could make a song like that which is pretty offensive and include the word "lunacy"
just wouldn't happen up here would it
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Post by bertieb on Jan 13, 2009 19:11:29 GMT
Did you miss the ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
offthewall?
RS
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 13, 2009 19:15:57 GMT
i think you're all missing the big point here only flash north londers could make a song like that which is pretty offensive and include the word "lunacy" just wouldn't happen up here would it Brilliant! ;D |
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Jan 13, 2009 19:25:36 GMT
who's the bastard in the black....
sugesting the ref's mother isn't married would probably apply to 50% of the crowd
The Cambell chant was homophobic but what takes it over the line for me is willing someone who has mental problems to hang themselves
That chant is scraping the barrell and Spurs should make an effort with their fans to get rid
Surely as bad/worse than most racist chants?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 13, 2009 19:47:06 GMT
who's the bastard in the black.... sugesting the ref's mother isn't married would probably apply to 50% of the crowd The Cambell chant was homophobic but what takes it over the line for me is willing someone who has mental problems to hang themselves That chant is scraping the barrell and Spurs should make an effort with their fans to get rid Surely as bad/worse than most racist chants? What if the referee that was suffering abuse had mental problems? How is the Spurs chant homophobic? |
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