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Post by scfclifer on Jan 10, 2008 20:36:53 GMT
shawx not signed yet we still haggling
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2008 20:37:35 GMT
I dunna give a flying about the Summer's goings on he is now playing for a promotion pushing City team now so he has my backing. Welcome back Griff and good luck.
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Post by rhodesy on Jan 10, 2008 20:53:21 GMT
I certainly won't be boing him!
He's a Stokie again now!
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Jan 10, 2008 20:55:39 GMT
So thats over £3m spent in January and we have 4 new defenders to show for it. Cort(£1.3m), Shawcross(£1m+), Pugh(500k), Griffin(300k). Work from the back I say. DM sorted with Diao so CM next then a left winger to shift Cressie up top and we're sorted Why have we signed Shawcross? SGS |
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Post by derbyram on Jan 10, 2008 21:04:31 GMT
Derby fan here... not here to cause a fuss but i think you should have my/derby fans views on griffin... i know you have a view on him and rate him very highly but my view on him is very poor indeed and i know a lot of other people don't rate him at all.
I heard he did well for you last season and fair play to him for doing that but for me it just proves how far hard work can get you in the championship... in the premiership he looked totally out classed and out played just looked so much out of place it was laughable. 300k is a very good deal for both clubs... us because we got paid for letting one of our worst players go and you because you've got a championship player and normally you would have to pay around 500k for that now days...
doing very well in the season and hope you keep it up...
need more midland teams in the premiership!!
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Post by sammyirvine on Jan 10, 2008 21:04:50 GMT
nice to have you home again Griff :-) We'll need all the good players we can get, in the push for promotion. Dickinson and Wilkinson will be in for plenty of matches I'm sure, but the depth in the squad is very very important. Good signing mr. Pulis. Just getting better and better
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Jan 10, 2008 21:06:36 GMT
Good news!!! But wasn't he on a free in the summer so we've just paid 300k for someone that we couldn't agree wages with then  or was he still in contract with Portsmouth. ??? theres nothing like competition though it feels quite nice to be a stoke fan at the moment. ;D got me tickets for castle today... Luvpump  |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 10, 2008 21:07:35 GMT
See further back in the thread luvpump  |
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Post by sammyirvine on Jan 10, 2008 21:07:39 GMT
Any player wont do well in Derby. No one likes the club. Thats why. Griffins heart is in Stoke. He just could'nt stand Derby, and played bad, so he could come back to Mighty Potters where he belong. Get it.... derbyram !!
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Post by rhodesy on Jan 10, 2008 21:08:52 GMT
DerbyRam you caught him in a bad season he's a class act.
He was playing badly for you on purpose lol
He wanted to come home!
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 10, 2008 21:09:53 GMT
To be fair, it must be hard for anyone to look competent when you're in a team that's as far out of its depth as the current Derby squad.
I think it'd be a similar story for us if went up, to be honest.
But he was exceptional for most of last season at our level - and if he can reproduce that, £300,000 is an absolute bargain.
We'll worry about him being exposed in the Prem if we ever get there. I don't think he'd be on his own!
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Post by bester76 on Jan 10, 2008 21:10:54 GMT
Derby fan here... not here to cause a fuss but i think you should have my/derby fans views on griffin... i know you have a view on him and rate him very highly but my view on him is very poor indeed and i know a lot of other people don't rate him at all. I heard he did well for you last season and fair play to him for doing that but for me it just proves how far hard work can get you in the championship... in the premiership he looked totally out classed and out played just looked so much out of place it was laughable. 300k is a very good deal for both clubs... us because we got paid for letting one of our worst players go and you because you've got a championship player and normally you would have to pay around 500k for that now days... doing very well in the season and hope you keep it up... need more midland teams in the premiership!! No, it's not really been a move that's worked out too well for either us (Derby) or Griffin to be fair. Griffin's not played particularly well for us, but then, in truth, not many in that keystone cops defence have. Mears is probably the only one. Looking around this board I think most Stoke fans seem to be clued up to the fact that perhaps Griffin isn't up to playing in the Premier League, but is more than capable of doing them a job in helping them get there this season. He was great in the Championship last year, no reason to believe that he won't be again now. If he helps Stoke up, £300k is nothing. As I said, the move's never really worked out, so I'm quite happy to get a fee, get him off of our wagebill, and let the lad move to a team where he's going to be able to make a difference. Good luck Griff, good luck Stoke. |
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Post by derbyram on Jan 10, 2008 21:13:19 GMT
hahaha... if you feel that way about derby players in derby... i think you would be able to get a good deal on Teale - scottish international Moore - big basket at the back Macken - someone payed 5 million for him few years back Lewis - i'd pay you to have him for me... but leeds fans think he was good in the championship. i think you'd be able to get all 4 of them players for a million EASY!! 4 championship class players for a million... got to be worth it  |
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Post by Stoke_FaN_DaN on Jan 10, 2008 21:13:30 GMT
bout time this deal was confirmed, was startin to wonder wats the crack
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Post by LDE76 on Jan 10, 2008 21:16:40 GMT
bester76 - you don't happen to live locally*, do you?
*like Biddulph Moor.
If not, my powers of deduction are somewhat less than Holmesian.
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Post by bester76 on Jan 10, 2008 21:17:29 GMT
hahaha... if you feel that way about derby players in derby... i think you would be able to get a good deal on Teale - scottish international Moore - big basket at the back Macken - someone payed 5 million for him few years back Lewis - i'd pay you to have him for me... but leeds fans think he was good in the championship. i think you'd be able to get all 4 of them players for a million EASY!! 4 championship class players for a million... got to be worth it Teale - Garbage, even at CCC level Moore - Will definitely do a job for someone if he moves on in the window Macken - One of the worst strikers I can ever remember being at Derby Lewis - Can't remember much about him at CCC level from last season, but too immobile for the top flight. If you take the lot off of our hands, you get a 'buy four - get one free' deal with Bob Malcolm thrown in for good measure..... |
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Post by bester76 on Jan 10, 2008 21:19:10 GMT
bester76 - you don't happen to live locally*, do you? *like Biddulph Moor. If not, my powers of deduction are somewhat less than Holmesian. Maybe..... |
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Post by rhodesy on Jan 10, 2008 21:19:54 GMT
Very gracious in defeat Derby
Good luck in the championship next year.
Hopefully meet up with you in the Prem
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Post by Thank you from Moorlander1 on Jan 10, 2008 21:21:12 GMT
Does anyone know the length of the new guys contracts?
The sad part about Griffin is that our two youngsters have really been showing good, no sorry, outstanding form,I do hope his coming does not effect them.
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Post by LDE76 on Jan 10, 2008 21:22:18 GMT
I fucking knew it was you.
;D
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 10, 2008 21:23:48 GMT
Not Wint is it LDE?
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Post by derbyram on Jan 10, 2008 21:25:56 GMT
To be fair, it must be hard for anyone to look competent when you're in a team that's as far out of its depth as the current Derby squad. I think it'd be a similar story for us if went up, to be honest. But he was exceptional for most of last season at our level - and if he can reproduce that, £300,000 is an absolute bargain. We'll worry about him being exposed in the Prem if we ever get there. I don't think he'd be on his own! Derby have good individuals but a poor squad... the gap between championship and premiership is massive... hard work could get a team promoted and thats what we did... look at the team we played in the play-off final. Look at Earnshaw and David Jones who was 2 of the best players in the championship last season and they can't get into our team. Earnshaw 19 goals in 28 games for norwich last season and would of got loads more if he wasn't injured and Jones was a major part in our campaign and him getting injured is one of the reasons we missed out on automatic promotion. and we needed a big summer to give us any chance to stay up and what did we get Eddie Lewis and Andy Griffin... poor to say the least!! There are not many if any championship teams that could make it in the premiership without looking totally stupid(like we did under davies) Wolves, West Brom and Charlton are probably the only 3 and its because they have decent enough players. |
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Post by LDE76 on Jan 10, 2008 21:27:01 GMT
Well, I'm loathe to reveal someone's identity (especially if it isn't who I think it is), but... I'd give him some karma, but I'm fresh out. |
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Post by bester76 on Jan 10, 2008 21:31:04 GMT
Oh and I could have had such fun before my identity was revealed..... ;D How's it going fellas? Looks like you lot are about as busy as we are in this transfer window. |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 10, 2008 21:32:11 GMT
I can't respect his views now, I mean he never did know anything about football did he?  |
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Post by LDE76 on Jan 10, 2008 21:33:15 GMT
Let's just say that Mr Ferns was less than happy when asked about his role in the Moben TV commercial.
;D
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 10, 2008 21:37:38 GMT
I'm good Bester thanks mate, little uns nearly 3 now would you believe!?
We'll have to go for a bevvy mate, I'm trying to sort summat with Trick.
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Post by bester76 on Jan 10, 2008 21:40:21 GMT
Derby have good individuals but a poor squad... the gap between championship and premiership is massive... hard work could get a team promoted and thats what we did... look at the team we played in the play-off final. Look at Earnshaw and David Jones who was 2 of the best players in the championship last season and they can't get into our team. Earnshaw 19 goals in 28 games for norwich last season and would of got loads more if he wasn't injured and Jones was a major part in our campaign and him getting injured is one of the reasons we missed out on automatic promotion. and we needed a big summer to give us any chance to stay up and what did we get Eddie Lewis and Andy Griffin... poor to say the least!! There are not many if any championship teams that could make it in the premiership without looking totally stupid(like we did under davies) Wolves, West Brom and Charlton are probably the only 3 and its because they have decent enough players. Let's qualify that. We have SOME good individuals. We've got plenty of donkeys as well. It's hard to imagine anyone else coming up behaving so poorly in the transfer market as we did prior to the window closing at the end of August. The problem with Davies was that he spent too much time over the summer sorting out his own contract and backroom staff (we averaged two for every player at the club, or so it seemed!), and Davies only liked to sign players that he knew. I believe the only possible exception to that was Feilhaber, who was most likely recommended by Craig Brown. The signings we're making at the moment, are the signings we should have been making during the summer. Far too late for this season now. Next year it's back to square one. Re Earnshaw, he's never been given a chance. Miles better than Howard, yet we persisted with him for far too long and left Earnshaw on the bench, losing both fitness and form in the process. Looking at it objectively, West Brom would have fared better than we have. Watford did last season, Sheff Utd did last season, Charlton and Wolves probably would have as well. To be fair, it's probably easier to identify who would have done as poorly as we have or worse. I'm left with a handful of teams at best. |
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Post by bester76 on Jan 10, 2008 21:45:13 GMT
I can't respect his views now, I mean he never did know anything about football did he? Knew enough not to follow Stoke..... 3? feck me, that's flown by! We're expecting in May, woohoo! Goodbye spare cash, hello sleepless nights..... Bevvies sound good, we'll have to tempt the Trickmeister (and Liam) out of semi-retirement! ;D |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 10, 2008 21:47:17 GMT
Will try and sort summat mate. Congrats to you and the missus. ;D (I thought you were a jaffa? ) |
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