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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Nov 23, 2024 19:58:39 GMT
Surely has to be a change at RB and LB
Johansson
Junior
Phillips
Gibson (though any more cock ups and I’d drop him)
Stevens
Seko
Burger (I assume it was just a one game ban)
Moran
Manhouf
Cannon
Bae
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Post by lordb on Nov 23, 2024 20:01:12 GMT
Yup would go with that
Cannon to score against his old club
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Post by mickstupp on Nov 23, 2024 20:21:27 GMT
Surely has to be a change at RB and LB Johansson Junior Phillips Gibson (though any more cock ups and I’d drop him) Stevens Seko Burger (I assume it was just a one game ban) Moran Manhouf Cannon Bae Yep, that’s exactly the team I’d be playing also. As an aside, has anyone noticed how utterly abysmal our home record is v Preston since we were relegated? Played 6 Won 0 Drew 1 Lost 5 Scored 1 Conceded 9 |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 23, 2024 20:25:38 GMT
Derby fans I know say they took part in one of the worst games of football today against Preston,what that says about Preston I’m not sure😂
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Nov 23, 2024 21:05:28 GMT
Surely has to be a change at RB and LB Johansson Junior Phillips Gibson (though any more cock ups and I’d drop him) Stevens Seko Burger (I assume it was just a one game ban) Moran Manhouf Cannon Bae Yep, that’s exactly the team I’d be playing also. As an aside, has anyone noticed how utterly abysmal our home record is v Preston since we were relegated? Played 6 Won 0 Drew 1 Lost 5 Scored 1 Conceded 9 Must admit it's certainly felt that way. Not a team I can remember beating at home too often at all to be honest. I can remember quite a few poor defeats and dull draws going back 20 odd years. But I can remember quite a few wins at Deepdale. |
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Post by wakeypotter on Nov 23, 2024 21:20:11 GMT
Surely has to be a change at RB and LB Johansson Junior Phillips Gibson (though any more cock ups and I’d drop him) Stevens Seko Burger (I assume it was just a one game ban) Moran Manhouf Cannon Bae Yep, that’s exactly the team I’d be playing also. As an aside, has anyone noticed how utterly abysmal our home record is v Preston since we were relegated? Played 6 Won 0 Drew 1 Lost 5 Scored 1 Conceded 9 Me and my son realised this poor record against a average |
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Post by blackpoolred on Nov 23, 2024 21:24:01 GMT
Surely has to be a change at RB and LB Johansson Junior Phillips Gibson (though any more cock ups and I’d drop him) Stevens Seko Burger (I assume it was just a one game ban) Moran Manhouf Cannon Bae Yep, that’s exactly the team I’d be playing also. As an aside, has anyone noticed how utterly abysmal our home record is v Preston since we were relegated? Played 6 Won 0 Drew 1 Lost 5 Scored 1 Conceded 9 That's an awful stat and definitely what you would call a bogey team at our ground. That said they look a poor team this year and have not won a game on their travels so far this season, they have the poorest away record in the league and are shipping loads of goals on their travels - so this has to be the season we start turning things round against them - I am going for a 0-0 draw  Only joking I think we will score at least 5 - we are starting to look good at home, but don't hold me to this as it could be the beer talking |
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Post by mickstupp on Nov 23, 2024 21:27:55 GMT
Yep, that’s exactly the team I’d be playing also. As an aside, has anyone noticed how utterly abysmal our home record is v Preston since we were relegated? Played 6 Won 0 Drew 1 Lost 5 Scored 1 Conceded 9 Must admit it's certainly felt that way. Not a team I can remember beating at home too often at all to be honest. I can remember quite a few poor defeats and dull draws going back 20 odd years. But I can remember quite a few wins at Deepdale. Our away record against them is pretty good. It’s similar to our record against Bristol City - away team dominant. |
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Post by mickstupp on Nov 23, 2024 21:29:39 GMT
Yep, that’s exactly the team I’d be playing also. As an aside, has anyone noticed how utterly abysmal our home record is v Preston since we were relegated? Played 6 Won 0 Drew 1 Lost 5 Scored 1 Conceded 9 That's an awful stat and definitely what you would call a bogey team at our ground. That said they look a poor team this year and have not won a game on their travels so far this season, they have the poorest away record in the league and are shipping loads of goals on their travels - so this has to be the season we start turning things round against them - I am going for a 0-0 draw Only joking I think we will score at least 5 - we are starting to look good at home, but don't hold me to this as it could be the beer talking I think their striker who got banned for biting is now back from suspension which will be a boost for them. |
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Nov 23, 2024 21:40:35 GMT
Looking at the table. If we win we are looking very good but if we lose and results go against we are down with the dead men again. Crackers. I'm going for the first option. Man this league is so poor. If we go up a few gears a play off spot is there for the taking. I don't expect it but there is some kind of trajectory we are on. Come on Stoke
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 23, 2024 21:53:14 GMT
A good old 4-4-2:
Viktor
Junior
Wilmot
Phillips
Stevens
Manhoef
Sidibe
Seko
Moran
Koumas
Cannon
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2024 21:56:11 GMT
A good old 4-4-2: Viktor Junior Wilmot Phillips Stevens Manhoef Sidibe Seko Moran Koumas Cannon Why would you play 3 central midfielders in a 442? |
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 23, 2024 22:02:09 GMT
A good old 4-4-2: Viktor Junior Wilmot Phillips Stevens Manhoef Sidibe Seko Moran Koumas Cannon Why would you play 3 central midfielders in a 442? I wouldn't. |
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Post by lordb on Nov 23, 2024 22:03:26 GMT
Why would you play 3 central midfielders in a 442? I wouldn't. Whose playing left side? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2024 22:03:44 GMT
Why would you play 3 central midfielders in a 442? I wouldn't. There’s no way he selects that team though. Bae would be on the left. |
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 23, 2024 22:05:36 GMT
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Post by lordb on Nov 23, 2024 22:06:55 GMT
Ok, must admit would like to see him there, going outside He'd probably get some decent crosses in too However in the side picked,whose playing right side? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2024 22:08:00 GMT
So you’re playing a central midfielder on the right wing? Ok. |
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 23, 2024 22:12:21 GMT
Ok, must admit would like to see him there, going outside He'd probably get some decent crosses in too However in the side picked,whose playing right side? I don't think the teqm has to be so regimented, Sidibe and Seko are obviously the two central midfielders but Moran and Manhoef are both capable of playing on the right or left of those two, neither are out and out wingers so both would be comfortable right or left. |
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Post by LphPotter on Nov 23, 2024 22:16:36 GMT
Manhoef on the left would kill almost all that’s good about his game |
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 23, 2024 22:26:26 GMT
Manhoef on the left would kill almost all that’s good about his game He's left footed, I'm sure he'd do ok but i'm not suggesting that he should stand on the left wing, far from it. Both Manhoef and Moran are perfectly capable of switching positions but my point is neither of them have to play as wingers throughout the game, I'm not sure where this fixation comes from that we have to have wide players right and left. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2024 22:32:01 GMT
Manhoef on the left would kill almost all that’s good about his game He's left footed, I'm sure he'd do ok but i'm not suggesting that he should stand on the left wing, far from it. Both Manhoef and Moran are perfectly capable of switching positions but my point is neither of them have to play as wingers throughout the game, I'm not sure where this fixation comes from that we have to have wide players right and left. Because you said you’re playing 442 🤣 |
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 23, 2024 22:48:25 GMT
He's left footed, I'm sure he'd do ok but i'm not suggesting that he should stand on the left wing, far from it. Both Manhoef and Moran are perfectly capable of switching positions but my point is neither of them have to play as wingers throughout the game, I'm not sure where this fixation comes from that we have to have wide players right and left. Because you said you’re playing 442 🤣 I didn't realise you have to play with two wingers in a 4-4-2. You live and learn. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2024 22:49:48 GMT
Because you said you’re playing 442 🤣 I didn't realise you have to play with two wingers in a 4-4-2. You live and learn. Yes because what you’re suggesting is 4222 |
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 23, 2024 22:54:30 GMT
I didn't realise you have to play with two wingers in a 4-4-2. You live and learn. Yes because what you’re suggesting is 4222 No it really isn't😁 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2024 22:57:34 GMT
Yes because what you’re suggesting is 4222 No it really isn't😁 It is. 442 is with wingers. You’re suggesting they’d be inside. Which is 4222 |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 23, 2024 23:01:57 GMT
4-4-2 is fine if you’ve wingers like Lawrence and etherington who work their nuts off defensively as well.
With our wide players, who offer absolutely nothing defensively, it’s suicidal. The middle 2 simply have too much ground to cover and even more so because the full backs cannot handle anyone cutting inside.
It will catch us out at some point but equally, if those front players finally click, we could be very very dangerous.
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 23, 2024 23:14:36 GMT
It is. 442 is with wingers. You’re suggesting they’d be inside. Which is 4222 You are over complicating a very simple format, you have a defensive back 4 and a midfield of 4, two central and two who can drift wide or be more central depending on moments during the game. I really don't understand how you come to a 4-2-2-2 formation😂 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2024 23:16:48 GMT
It is. 442 is with wingers. You’re suggesting they’d be inside. Which is 4222 You are over complicating a very simple format, you have a defensive back 4 and a midfield of 4, two central and two who can drift wide or be more central depending on moments during the game. I really don't understand how you come to a 4-2-2-2 formation😂 It’s not overcomplicating anything tbh. It’s a very standard formation in some parts of the world. With the players you’ve picked they’d play it like a 4222 and not a 442 especially with how you’ve described how you’d want them to play. If they are drifting then that’s exactly what the second 2 in a 4222 do 🤣 |
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 23, 2024 23:23:29 GMT
You are over complicating a very simple format, you have a defensive back 4 and a midfield of 4, two central and two who can drift wide or be more central depending on moments during the game. I really don't understand how you come to a 4-2-2-2 formation😂 It’s not overcomplicating anything tbh. It’s a very standard formation in some parts of the world. With the players you’ve picked they’d play it like a 4222 and not a 442 especially with how you’ve described how you’d want them to play. If they are drifting then that’s exactly what the second 2 in a 4222 do 🤣 If you play with two out and out wingers then it would be a 4-2-4. Neither Manhoef or Moran are out and out wingers, they can play wide and cover defensively. I'll give up at this point.🙄 |
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