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Post by mrcoke on Nov 7, 2024 19:47:54 GMT
Put her balls on the block. The irony is the only winners are those unborn children that will now live and have a life because the "reproductive rights" movement have been stopped in their tracks. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 7, 2024 19:48:17 GMT
I don't understand how you 'expect' Trump to end the war within 12 months, if you don't know how that can actually be achieved. To be honest, it sounds like nothing more than blind faith, based on Trump having some sort of diplomatic superpower. Paul try and see this with out a anti trump hat on The majority of British know not a lot about us politics. Often we see Dem v Rep as Tory v Labour it’s far different from that Most of the USA political class have some sort of lawyer background. Career politicians at county state then national level. They have their fingers in all sorts of pies. Defence companies, defence committees, cia etc - you see politicians who have served at all levels and have influenced conflict. Trump doesn’t come from that background he is a business man. Not a war monger When he got elected in 2016 he started no new wars but inherited conflicts in Afghan, Syria and Yemen. He reached out to Putin, N Korea, and the accords in the Middle East. It’s not blind faith as he does not have form for conflict. You have to have faith he will strive for peace in Europe and the Middle East. It's got absolutely nothing to with an anti Trump agenda, it's a perfectly legitimate question for anybody claiming to able to bring peace to the region. And do you actually realise how ridiculous your final sentence is? In the sentence before, you say that it's not about blind faith and then immediately say in the next, that you HAVE to have faith. Literally ANYBODY can say they can stop wars, without explaining how. Trump also said he was going to solve EVERY issue that the country currently has too. Which is quite obviously complete bollocks. |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 7, 2024 19:59:31 GMT
I don't understand how you 'expect' Trump to end the war within 12 months, if you don't know how that can actually be achieved. To be honest, it sounds like nothing more than blind faith, based on Trump having some sort of diplomatic superpower. Paul try and see this with out a anti trump hat on The majority of British know not a lot about us politics. Often we see Dem v Rep as Tory v Labour it’s far different from that Most of the USA political class have some sort of lawyer background. Career politicians at county state then national level. They have their fingers in all sorts of pies. Defence companies, defence committees, cia etc - you see politicians who have served at all levels and have influenced conflict. Trump doesn’t come from that background he is a business man. Not a war monger When he got elected in 2016 he started no new wars but inherited conflicts in Afghan, Syria and Yemen. He reached out to Putin, N Korea, and the accords in the Middle East. It’s not blind faith as he does not have form for conflict. You have to have faith he will strive for peace in Europe and the Middle East. Are you suggesting Trump, as a prominent business man for the last four or five decades, doesn't have his fingers in several pies? And these Middle East accords, I keep seeing people using these as evidence that he will end conflicts. Which conflicts did these accords stop? |
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 7, 2024 20:08:40 GMT
Very hard to complain of cheating and bring lawsuits when you’ve been handed your arse on a plate Or when you respect the US constitution and the election results Can’t disagree But I’m not so sure they’d of been quite so magnanimous if they’d of been look for twenty thousand votes Rather than four million or so |
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Post by salopstick on Nov 7, 2024 20:18:29 GMT
Paul try and see this with out a anti trump hat on The majority of British know not a lot about us politics. Often we see Dem v Rep as Tory v Labour it’s far different from that Most of the USA political class have some sort of lawyer background. Career politicians at county state then national level. They have their fingers in all sorts of pies. Defence companies, defence committees, cia etc - you see politicians who have served at all levels and have influenced conflict. Trump doesn’t come from that background he is a business man. Not a war monger When he got elected in 2016 he started no new wars but inherited conflicts in Afghan, Syria and Yemen. He reached out to Putin, N Korea, and the accords in the Middle East. It’s not blind faith as he does not have form for conflict. You have to have faith he will strive for peace in Europe and the Middle East. It's got absolutely nothing to with an anti Trump agenda, it's a perfectly legitimate question for anybody claiming to able to bring peace to the region. And do you actually realise how ridiculous your final sentence is? In the sentence before, you say that it's not about blind faith and then immediately say in the next, that you HAVE to have faith. Literally ANYBODY can say they can stop wars, without explaining how. Trump also said he was going to solve EVERY issue that the country currently has too. Which is quite obviously complete bollocks. There is a difference between faith and blind faith. He has form for not war mongering. You can have faith he carries on in the same vein. |
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 7, 2024 20:59:47 GMT
Paul try and see this with out a anti trump hat on The majority of British know not a lot about us politics. Often we see Dem v Rep as Tory v Labour it’s far different from that Most of the USA political class have some sort of lawyer background. Career politicians at county state then national level. They have their fingers in all sorts of pies. Defence companies, defence committees, cia etc - you see politicians who have served at all levels and have influenced conflict. Trump doesn’t come from that background he is a business man. Not a war monger When he got elected in 2016 he started no new wars but inherited conflicts in Afghan, Syria and Yemen. He reached out to Putin, N Korea, and the accords in the Middle East. It’s not blind faith as he does not have form for conflict. You have to have faith he will strive for peace in Europe and the Middle East. Absolutely bang on Come on! Let's have some common sense. What did he achieve in Afghanistan? He handed that country to the Taliban on a silver platter with the stupid, naive agreement he made with them. What did he do for Syria? It's still a lawless place with multiple conflicts. What did he achieve when he reached out to Putin? The 'Special Operation. What has he achieved by cuddling up to N. Korea? They've continued to develop their nuclear capability and have ballistic missiles that can reach the US. And what have the accords in the Middle East achieved? Israel has become a fascist state that embraces ethnic cleansing and commits many war crimes. He's achieved the grand total of nowt. OS. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 7, 2024 21:01:30 GMT
Come on! Let's have some common sense. What did he achieve in Afghanistan? He handed that country to the Taliban on a silver platter with the stupid, naive agreement he made with them. What did he do for Syria? It's still a lawless place with multiple conflicts. What did he achieve when he reached out to Putin? The 'Special Operation. What has he achieved by cuddling up to N. Korea? They've continued to develop their nuclear capability and have ballistic missiles that can reach the US. And what have the accords in the Middle East achieved? Israel has become a fascist state that embraces ethnic cleansing and commits many war crimes. He's achieved the grand total of nowt. OS. He wasn’t in charge when any of those things escalated and I don’t think they would had he remained. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 7, 2024 21:04:26 GMT
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 7, 2024 21:27:53 GMT
Come on! Let's have some common sense. What did he achieve in Afghanistan? He handed that country to the Taliban on a silver platter with the stupid, naive agreement he made with them. What did he do for Syria? It's still a lawless place with multiple conflicts. What did he achieve when he reached out to Putin? The 'Special Operation. What has he achieved by cuddling up to N. Korea? They've continued to develop their nuclear capability and have ballistic missiles that can reach the US. And what have the accords in the Middle East achieved? Israel has become a fascist state that embraces ethnic cleansing and commits many war crimes. He's achieved the grand total of nowt. OS. He wasn’t in charge when any of those things escalated and I don’t think they would had he remained. Yes, because all of Putin's war plans were made in the month between Biden taking office and the start of the war.  |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 7, 2024 21:29:45 GMT
He wasn’t in charge when any of those things escalated and I don’t think they would had he remained. Yes, because all of Putin's war plans were made in the month between Biden taking office and the start of the war. Just get over it mate, you’re embarrassing yourself |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 7, 2024 21:31:26 GMT
It's got absolutely nothing to with an anti Trump agenda, it's a perfectly legitimate question for anybody claiming to able to bring peace to the region. And do you actually realise how ridiculous your final sentence is? In the sentence before, you say that it's not about blind faith and then immediately say in the next, that you HAVE to have faith. Literally ANYBODY can say they can stop wars, without explaining how. Trump also said he was going to solve EVERY issue that the country currently has too. Which is quite obviously complete bollocks. There is a difference between faith and blind faith. He has form for not war mongering. You can have faith he carries on in the same vein. You're conflating two different things. Being able to END wars is completely different from being in a position to start them. I appreciate that we're moving into the world of semantics now but I really do think there is very little difference between faith and blind faith when it comes to evidence of Trump being capable, or even interested in bringing wars to a successful conclusion. |
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Post by swampmongrel on Nov 7, 2024 21:31:49 GMT
He wasn’t in charge when any of those things escalated and I don’t think they would had he remained. Yes, because all of Putin's war plans were made in the month between Biden taking office and the start of the war. 13 months, I think. |
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Post by Ariel Manto on Nov 7, 2024 21:32:42 GMT
Yes, because all of Putin's war plans were made in the month between Biden taking office and the start of the war. Just get over it mate, you’re embarrassing yourself To be honest I meant all of what I said in jest earlier.......but this Trump stuff is seriously going on a bit now. The US electorate were faced with Trump who Republicans backed and his policies (which you can either agree or disagree with) and Harris who was imposed on Democrats and had no policies but just stood on an "I'm Not Trump" platform. Faced with that choice, is it any wonder that Trump won? |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 7, 2024 21:33:35 GMT
Just get over it mate, you’re embarrassing yourself To be honest I meant all of what I said in jest earlier.......but this Trump stuff is seriously going on a bit now. The US electorate were faced with Trump who Republicans backed and his policies (which you can either agree or disagree with) and Harris who was imposed on Democrats and had no policies but just stood on an "I'm Not Trump" platform. Faced with that choice, is it any wonder that Trump won? Agree |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 7, 2024 21:37:14 GMT
Just get over it mate, you’re embarrassing yourself To be honest I meant all of what I said in jest earlier.......but this Trump stuff is seriously going on a bit now. The US electorate were faced with Trump who Republicans backed and his policies (which you can either agree or disagree with) and Harris who was imposed on Democrats and had no policies but just stood on an "I'm Not Trump" platform. Faced with that choice, is it any wonder that Trump won? Aerial Manto has seen the light!💡 |
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 7, 2024 21:37:23 GMT
Point of order:
Putin invaded Georgia in 2008.
Putin invaded Crimea in 2014.
Russian agents poisoned people in Salisbury in 2018.
The world did nothing but did approve Nordgas 2
Is anyone surprised Putin carried on.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 7, 2024 21:40:56 GMT
Yes, because all of Putin's war plans were made in the month between Biden taking office and the start of the war. Just get over it mate, you’re embarrassing yourself I'm over it, and thanking my lucky stars we've got Super Keir to keep our very own lunatics from running the asylum. |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 7, 2024 21:43:02 GMT
Point of order: Putin invaded Georgia in 2008. Putin invaded Crimea in 2014. If you calculate that he can plan a full scale invasion in a month, he probably just scribbled a couple of orders down on the Wednesday before invading on the Friday. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 7, 2024 21:44:41 GMT
Just get over it mate, you’re embarrassing yourself I'm over it, and thanking my lucky stars we've got Super Keir to keep our very own lunatics from running the asylum. Jesus, there is no hope for you mate |
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Post by Foster on Nov 7, 2024 21:44:42 GMT
To be honest I meant all of what I said in jest earlier.......but this Trump stuff is seriously going on a bit now. The US electorate were faced with Trump who Republicans backed and his policies (which you can either agree or disagree with) and Harris who was imposed on Democrats and had no policies but just stood on an "I'm Not Trump" platform. Faced with that choice, is it any wonder that Trump won? Aerial Manto has seen the light!💡  |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 7, 2024 21:46:02 GMT
Point of order: Putin invaded Georgia in 2008. Putin invaded Crimea in 2014. If you calculate that he can plan a full scale invasion in a month, he probably just scribbled a couple of orders down on the Wednesday before invading on the Friday. And get more done than the previous flaky brigade has in the last few years. Standing and watching it all unfold |
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Post by Ariel Manto on Nov 7, 2024 21:46:06 GMT
There is a difference between faith and blind faith. He has form for not war mongering. You can have faith he carries on in the same vein. You're onflating two different things. Being able to END wars is completely different from being in a position to start them. I appreciate that we're moving into the world of semantics now but I really do think there is very little difference between faith and blind faith when it comes to evidence of Trump being capable, or even interested in bringing wars to a successful conclusion. In absolute fairness there is a difference between faith and blind faith... Faith is a belief or trust in something or someone based on confidence, hope, and using past experiences with at least some allowance for questioning, understanding, and evidence. Blind Faith is just the belief in something without any evidence, reasoning, or questioning whatsoever and usually ends up with a refusal to consider contrary evidence or alternative viewpoints. True Faith is an absolutely belting New Order track which should have been No 1 for three years. People can have faith in Trump not to start military conflicts. People can have faith that Trump wants to end military conflicts, as Trump did it with Afghanistan, whereby he negotiated a peace agreement with the Taliban in 2020 which aimed to end the conflict and set a timeline for the withdrawal of U.S. troops. Despite that the conflict in Afghanistan continued, and the final withdrawal of U.S. troops was completed under Biden in 2021. I think anyone having blind faith in Trump to do anything is rather misguided. I also expect Trump will spend the next couple of months winding back from his blasé electoral rhetoric. |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 7, 2024 21:52:14 GMT
I'm over it, and thanking my lucky stars we've got Super Keir to keep our very own lunatics from running the asylum. Jesus, there is no hope for you mate Get over it, he's cleaned house. There's nothing left to do but accept that he is one of life's winners. |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 7, 2024 21:56:24 GMT
Just get over it mate, you’re embarrassing yourself I'm over it, and thanking my lucky stars we've got Super Keir to keep our very own lunatics from running the asylum. I can assure you, there's nothing very "super" about that wet, slippery, slimy dork. The future is bright. It's all about Hungary's Big Vik Orban, Super Ron, Poilievre's Paradise, Ricky Tice and Big Nige, the Mighty Viv and of course, the newly elected Don of the West. All out war on wokery is an inevitability🔥 |
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Post by salopstick on Nov 7, 2024 21:58:16 GMT
I'm over it, and thanking my lucky stars we've got Super Keir to keep our very own lunatics from running the asylum. I can assure you, there's nothing very "super" about that wet, slippery, slimy dork. The future is bright. It's all about Hungary's Big Vik Orban, Super Ron, Poilievre's Paradise, Ricky Tice and Big Nige, the Mighty Viv and of course, the newly elected Don of the West. All out war on wokery is an inevitability🔥 Games gone  |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 7, 2024 22:01:33 GMT
I'm over it, and thanking my lucky stars we've got Super Keir to keep our very own lunatics from running the asylum. I can assure you, there's nothing very "super" about that wet, slippery, slimy dork. The future is bright. It's all about Hungary's Big Vik Orban, Super Ron, Poilievre's Paradise, Ricky Tice and Big Nige, the Mighty Viv and of course, the newly elected Don of the West. All out war on wokery is an inevitability🔥 Although your meltdown is funny, I think you should just get over it. I know it wasn't nice seeing your men Ricky and Nige getting left with little after Big Keir had taken all the seats, but it was four months ago now. Some you win, some you lose. |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 7, 2024 22:03:52 GMT
I can assure you, there's nothing very "super" about that wet, slippery, slimy dork. The future is bright. It's all about Hungary's Big Vik Orban, Super Ron, Poilievre's Paradise, Ricky Tice and Big Nige, the Mighty Viv and of course, the newly elected Don of the West. All out war on wokery is an inevitability🔥 Although your meltdown is funny, I think you should just get over it. I know it wasn't nice seeing your men Ricky and Nige getting left with little after Big Keir had taken all the seats, but it was four months ago now. Some you win, some you lose. Ha! Reform and the rise of libertarian Right in the UK is just getting started mate, give it time 😊 |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 7, 2024 22:12:44 GMT
Although your meltdown is funny, I think you should just get over it. I know it wasn't nice seeing your men Ricky and Nige getting left with little after Big Keir had taken all the seats, but it was four months ago now. Some you win, some you lose. Ha! Reform and the rise of libertarian Right in the UK is just getting started mate, give it time 😊 Get over it - sometimes it's just better to accept a loss. You're beginning to sound like Nathan Jones. You haven't got anything against Welsh women have you? |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 7, 2024 22:18:38 GMT
Ha! Reform and the rise of libertarian Right in the UK is just getting started mate, give it time 😊 Get over it - sometimes it's just better to accept a loss. You're beginning to sound like Nathan Jones. You haven't got anything against Welsh women have you? 😂 Fair play mate that did make me laugh. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 7, 2024 22:26:47 GMT
You're onflating two different things. Being able to END wars is completely different from being in a position to start them. I appreciate that we're moving into the world of semantics now but I really do think there is very little difference between faith and blind faith when it comes to evidence of Trump being capable, or even interested in bringing wars to a successful conclusion. People can have faith in Trump not to start military conflicts, as there is no evidence that he has. People cannot have faith that Trump can end military conflicts, as that is rather misguided. Which is exactly what I said. |
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