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Post by emretezzy on Oct 22, 2024 12:42:57 GMT
Any lefties still lurking now?? Difficult one to try and defend now. What's more disturbing is we have sat a firearms officer on a potential life sentence for over 2 years. He's not a civilian with a gun. He's a highly trained firearms officer who acted lawfully. How can you put him and his family through 2 years of hell for trash like this bloke. If there was no case to answer the matter would not have gone to court. There clearly was a discrepancy between the video evidence and the police officer's statement. The matter was subject to the due process of the law (as it should have beem) and a jury has found him not guilty. Case (literally) closed. I'm sorry that the police officer and his family had to go through this but it is absolutely right and proper that they did. Whether Kabba was an innocent bystander or a dangerous thug is irrelevant. Armed police officers have to behave according to well defined protocols, as a society we we do not give police officers carte blanche to decide who should live and who should die. It's called the rule of law and you don't have to be left wing to understand that. Your doing that again though were everyone suddenly turns into a highly trained firearms officer, you've done the double and are a judge as well. Of course they can't go round shooting people. But if they shoot a head of gang, in a vehicle used in a hit and run, that won't co-operate and exit his vehicle then starts to use it as 1 ton battering ram. Then I don't think he should be sat on trial for 2 years for him and families sake. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 22, 2024 12:49:03 GMT
If there was no case to answer the matter would not have gone to court. There clearly was a discrepancy between the video evidence and the police officer's statement. The matter was subject to the due process of the law (as it should have beem) and a jury has found him not guilty. Case (literally) closed. I'm sorry that the police officer and his family had to go through this but it is absolutely right and proper that they did. Whether Kabba was an innocent bystander or a dangerous thug is irrelevant. Armed police officers have to behave according to well defined protocols, as a society we we do not give police officers carte blanche to decide who should live and who should die. It's called the rule of law and you don't have to be left wing to understand that. Your doing that again though were everyone suddenly turns into a highly trained firearms officer, you've done the double and are a judge as well. Of course they can't go round shooting people. But if they shoot a head of gang, in a vehicle used in a hit and run, that won't co-operate and exit his vehicle then starts to use it as 1 ton battering ram. Then I don't think he should be sat on trial for 2 years for him and families sake. Audi Q8s weigh 2 tonne. 2.5 tonne if its an electric one. Most definitely a lethal weapon... |
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Post by franklin on Oct 22, 2024 13:03:17 GMT
He was charged for no other reason than to appease people and to avoid public outcry and cover up accusations. As for discrepancies I ask anyone to recount an incident perfectly that would have happened probably weeks ago as more often than not the officer would NOT do his statement directly after the incident, he may make an initial statement but it would be brief and lack details. There are post incident protocols that are followed so he would have had some time to wait before making his statement, he would have had a federation rep allocated and legal representative allocated pretty much immediately and his welfare would have been the first issue to be dealt with, nobody and I mean nobody at all would be talking to him as far as evidence is concerned. I'd be more concerned if the evidence was perfect and that there were not discrepancies. Different people see and hear differently I've seen it so many times so that's nothing new and by no means a basis for guilt. See the match day threads every game and we all see what we believe to be an incident in match and there are always contradicting opinions and discrepancies in facts we've all "seen" and "know" to be true.
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Post by salopstick on Oct 22, 2024 13:24:20 GMT
also the local community and his family should not be venting their anger at the police but at their own. this cunt was a career criminal.
On Monday, Mr Kaba's family said they were devastated by the verdict, and that the acquittal of Mr Blake "wasn't just a failure for our family, but for all those affected by police violence".
About 150 people held a vigil outside the Old Bailey on Monday evening, some holding signs with slogans including "this is not justice" and "police are perpetrators".
Sheeda Queen, a cousin of Mr Kaba, and a member of the Justice for Chris campaign group, described "a deep pain of injustice, adding to the unbearable sorrow".
Another campaigner, Kayza Rose, said the outcome "reinforces the harsh reality that police can kill without consequence".
She added: "No-one can be safe while the police can kill with impunity.
"This verdict is not the end. It only strengthens our resolve.”
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 22, 2024 13:24:46 GMT
He was charged for no other reason than to appease people and to avoid public outcry and cover up accusations. As for discrepancies I ask anyone to recount an incident perfectly that would have happened probably weeks ago as more often than not the officer would NOT do his statement directly after the incident, he may make an initial statement but it would be brief and lack details. There are post incident protocols that are followed so he would have had some time to wait before making his statement, he would have had a federation rep allocated and legal representative allocated pretty much immediately and his welfare would have been the first issue to be dealt with, nobody and I mean nobody at all would be talking to him as far as evidence is concerned. I'd be more concerned if the evidence was perfect and that there were not discrepancies. Different people see and hear differently I've seen it so many times so that's nothing new and by no means a basis for guilt. See the match day threads every game and we all see what we believe to be an incident in match and there are always contradicting opinions and discrepancies in facts we've all "seen" and "know" to be true. There would have been cries of institutional racism without the charges. So the cps buckled. Catch 22 for them really... |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 22, 2024 13:25:00 GMT
If there was no case to answer the matter would not have gone to court. There clearly was a discrepancy between the video evidence and the police officer's statement. The matter was subject to the due process of the law (as it should have beem) and a jury has found him not guilty. Case (literally) closed. I'm sorry that the police officer and his family had to go through this but it is absolutely right and proper that they did. Whether Kabba was an innocent bystander or a dangerous thug is irrelevant. Armed police officers have to behave according to well defined protocols, as a society we we do not give police officers carte blanche to decide who should live and who should die. It's called the rule of law and you don't have to be left wing to understand that. Your doing that again though were everyone suddenly turns into a highly trained firearms officer, you've done the double and are a judge as well. Of course they can't go round shooting people. But if they shoot a head of gang, in a vehicle used in a hit and run, that won't co-operate and exit his vehicle then starts to use it as 1 ton battering ram. Then I don't think he should be sat on trial for 2 years for him and families sake. You are the one acting as judge and jury here not me and you are the one who has decided unilaterally that he is innocent without actually seeing the evidence. I've not declared he is guilty at all. I've said their appears to have been sufficient evidence to take the matter to court and you haven't provided a shred of evidence to suggest there is no case to answer other than your own potted version of events you didn't even witness. Having gone to court I fully accept the jury's verdict which is exactly how the matter should have been handled. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 22, 2024 13:27:12 GMT
also the local community and his family should not be venting their anger at the police but at their own. this cunt was a career criminal. On Monday, Mr Kaba's family said they were devastated by the verdict, and that the acquittal of Mr Blake "wasn't just a failure for our family, but for all those affected by police violence". About 150 people held a vigil outside the Old Bailey on Monday evening, some holding signs with slogans including "this is not justice" and "police are perpetrators". Sheeda Queen, a cousin of Mr Kaba, and a member of the Justice for Chris campaign group, described "a deep pain of injustice, adding to the unbearable sorrow". Another campaigner, Kayza Rose, said the outcome "reinforces the harsh reality that police can kill without consequence". She added: "No-one can be safe while the police can kill with impunity. "This verdict is not the end. It only strengthens our resolve.” Nobody is safe on the street with these gangster rats shooting and stabbing each other. Another career criminal they tried to repaint as a pillar of the community. A scum bag who met a violent end. Hey ho... |
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Post by emretezzy on Oct 22, 2024 13:29:58 GMT
also the local community and his family should not be venting their anger at the police but at their own. this cunt was a career criminal. On Monday, Mr Kaba's family said they were devastated by the verdict, and that the acquittal of Mr Blake "wasn't just a failure for our family, but for all those affected by police violence". About 150 people held a vigil outside the Old Bailey on Monday evening, some holding signs with slogans including "this is not justice" and "police are perpetrators". Sheeda Queen, a cousin of Mr Kaba, and a member of the Justice for Chris campaign group, described "a deep pain of injustice, adding to the unbearable sorrow". Another campaigner, Kayza Rose, said the outcome "reinforces the harsh reality that police can kill without consequence". She added: "No-one can be safe while the police can kill with impunity. "This verdict is not the end. It only strengthens our resolve.” [br We are appeasing the wrong people. They should be ashamed to be associated with him. Not holding candles. The person we should have sympathy for is the police officer and his family who protected people and has been sat in the ringer for 2 years. |
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Post by adri2008 on Oct 22, 2024 13:33:55 GMT
also the local community and his family should not be venting their anger at the police but at their own. this cunt was a career criminal. On Monday, Mr Kaba's family said they were devastated by the verdict, and that the acquittal of Mr Blake "wasn't just a failure for our family, but for all those affected by police violence". About 150 people held a vigil outside the Old Bailey on Monday evening, some holding signs with slogans including "this is not justice" and "police are perpetrators". Sheeda Queen, a cousin of Mr Kaba, and a member of the Justice for Chris campaign group, described "a deep pain of injustice, adding to the unbearable sorrow". Another campaigner, Kayza Rose, said the outcome "reinforces the harsh reality that police can kill without consequence". She added: "No-one can be safe while the police can kill with impunity. "This verdict is not the end. It only strengthens our resolve.” The local community shouldn't be supporting a bloke who is basically a gangster - any normal person would be glad to be rid of him. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 22, 2024 13:35:02 GMT
He was charged for no other reason than to appease people and to avoid public outcry and cover up accusations. As for discrepancies I ask anyone to recount an incident perfectly that would have happened probably weeks ago as more often than not the officer would NOT do his statement directly after the incident, he may make an initial statement but it would be brief and lack details. There are post incident protocols that are followed so he would have had some time to wait before making his statement, he would have had a federation rep allocated and legal representative allocated pretty much immediately and his welfare would have been the first issue to be dealt with, nobody and I mean nobody at all would be talking to him as far as evidence is concerned. I'd be more concerned if the evidence was perfect and that there were not discrepancies. Different people see and hear differently I've seen it so many times so that's nothing new and by no means a basis for guilt. See the match day threads every game and we all see what we believe to be an incident in match and there are always contradicting opinions and discrepancies in facts we've all "seen" and "know" to be true. There would have been cries of institutional racism without the charges. So the cps buckled. Catch 22 for them really... Either that or the CPS decided there was a case to answer and they did their job and the court duly did theirs? Do you actually understand what the rule of law means? |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Oct 22, 2024 13:46:21 GMT
also the local community and his family should not be venting their anger at the police but at their own. this cunt was a career criminal. On Monday, Mr Kaba's family said they were devastated by the verdict, and that the acquittal of Mr Blake "wasn't just a failure for our family, but for all those affected by police violence". About 150 people held a vigil outside the Old Bailey on Monday evening, some holding signs with slogans including "this is not justice" and "police are perpetrators". Sheeda Queen, a cousin of Mr Kaba, and a member of the Justice for Chris campaign group, described "a deep pain of injustice, adding to the unbearable sorrow". Another campaigner, Kayza Rose, said the outcome "reinforces the harsh reality that police can kill without consequence". She added: "No-one can be safe while the police can kill with impunity. "This verdict is not the end. It only strengthens our resolve.” [br We are appeasing the wrong people. They should be ashamed to be associated with him. Not holding candles. The person we should have sympathy for is the police officer and his family who protected people and has been sat in the ringer for 2 years. This is the bit I find the most difficult to take, where people support someone purely because of the colour of their skin. Choosing to side with a known criminal who is clearly a very dangerous character capable of directing serious violence towards others from his and their own community purely because it’s involving police. I understand why there’s a mistrust of the Met I really do but the same prejudice they show in this case is the same that they accuse police of re stop/search. It really needs to be about the individual rather than judging by whatever colour or organisation someone’s from. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 22, 2024 13:47:17 GMT
There would have been cries of institutional racism without the charges. So the cps buckled. Catch 22 for them really... Either that or the CPS decided there was a case to answer and they did their job and the court duly did theirs? Do you actually understand what the rule of law means? Do you understand you'll soon have nobody in the force willing to carry a gun to take these rats on. Or indeed wanting to be police officers at all. We'll all be sorry then, when these rats are running the streets and nobody feels safe leaving their homes.. |
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Post by franklin on Oct 22, 2024 13:52:43 GMT
There would have been cries of institutional racism without the charges. So the cps buckled. Catch 22 for them really... Either that or the CPS decided there was a case to answer and they did their job and the court duly did theirs? Do you actually understand what the rule of law means? I think ultimately they did and rolled the dice I'm sure they knew it was a weak case but it served a purpose in the eyes of the public so I understand why they did it. I have my suspicion of why they took the decision as I've stated previously it's a shame and emotionally stressful for the officer but he'll move on in some way now I suspect he'll never police the streets again unfortunately. I think he'll be allowed to retire given the stress and the trauma of the incident and live hopefully a quiet life with his family. |
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Post by flea79 on Oct 22, 2024 14:53:40 GMT
also the local community and his family should not be venting their anger at the police but at their own. this cunt was a career criminal. On Monday, Mr Kaba's family said they were devastated by the verdict, and that the acquittal of Mr Blake "wasn't just a failure for our family, but for all those affected by police violence". About 150 people held a vigil outside the Old Bailey on Monday evening, some holding signs with slogans including "this is not justice" and "police are perpetrators". Sheeda Queen, a cousin of Mr Kaba, and a member of the Justice for Chris campaign group, described "a deep pain of injustice, adding to the unbearable sorrow". Another campaigner, Kayza Rose, said the outcome "reinforces the harsh reality that police can kill without consequence". She added: "No-one can be safe while the police can kill with impunity. "This verdict is not the end. It only strengthens our resolve.” The local community shouldn't be supporting a bloke who is basically a gangster - any normal person would be glad to be rid of him. different cultures have different values.... i will never forget when Usman Khan (london bridge terror attack) was killed and local people from his community gave words on him, one said he was a nice guy, he always wore the best clothes.... i dont judge somebodies character based on the nike air max or the trackies they are wearing, i judge them based on the actions they take and the words they use maybe its me and im wrong |
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Post by callas12 on Oct 22, 2024 15:10:49 GMT
Either that or the CPS decided there was a case to answer and they did their job and the court duly did theirs? Do you actually understand what the rule of law means? I think ultimately they did and rolled the dice I'm sure they knew it was a weak case but it served a purpose in the eyes of the public so I understand why they did it. I have my suspicion of why they took the decision as I've stated previously it's a shame and emotionally stressful for the officer but he'll move on in some way now I suspect he'll never police the streets again unfortunately. I think he'll be allowed to retire given the stress and the trauma of the incident and live hopefully a quiet life with his family. Sadly I don't think he'll ever truely move on from this. Despite being admonished of any wrong doing he'll still carry the burden & post incident & court case stresses around with him for life now. & the fact they saw fit to name him, & with the type of characters Kaba associated with means he'll likely live the rest of his life on tenterhooks with one eye behind his back at all times. It could potentially mean him having to relocate his family and go under a different name moving forwards as well. All because the judge saw fit to name him in proceedings. Kind of ironic I feel considering the same judge felt it wasn't appropriate or necessary to have Kabas previous convictions read out in open court! There's arguments for and against offenders pre convictions being read out in court, I'd definitely be an advocate of all previous pre convictions being revealed as it paints a true picture of the person under suspicion. & in cases such as this would have made things alot more clear & obvious in the jurers minds. But no the judge denied to allow the jury to know any part of this. Instead they'd have been painted the picture by the CPS, offenders family and celeb backers such as Sormzy, Sadiq Khan & Diane Abbott that Kaba was a nice family guy & this killing was purely a Police v colour shooting matter which it wasn't and never was! The amount of pandering to the person who's clearly in the wrong in this case as opposed to the dock, and sheer inconsistency in the legal process is staggering these days. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 22, 2024 15:20:51 GMT
I think ultimately they did and rolled the dice I'm sure they knew it was a weak case but it served a purpose in the eyes of the public so I understand why they did it. I have my suspicion of why they took the decision as I've stated previously it's a shame and emotionally stressful for the officer but he'll move on in some way now I suspect he'll never police the streets again unfortunately. I think he'll be allowed to retire given the stress and the trauma of the incident and live hopefully a quiet life with his family. Sadly I don't think he'll ever truely move on from this. Despite being admonished of any wrong doing he'll still carry the burden & post incident & court case stresses around with him for life now. & the fact they saw fit to name him, & with the type of characters Kaba associated with means he'll likely live the rest of his life on tenterhooks with one eye behind his back at all times. It could potentially mean him having to relocate his family and go under a different name moving forwards as well. All because the judge saw fit to name him in proceedings. Kind of ironic I feel considering the same judge felt it wasn't appropriate or necessary to have Kabas previous convictions read out in open court! The amount of pandering to the person who's clearly in the wrong and ultimately the dock, and sheer inconsistency in the legal process is staggering these days. I made this point earlier....imagine he'd (Blake) been found guilty and then we find out all this shyte he's been doing shooting people in nightclubs and the like. He's a scummy little rat and that part of London is a bit safer with him not roaming the streets. Zero sympathy I'm afraid. And his parents obviously did a shyte job raising him.. |
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Post by callas12 on Oct 22, 2024 15:28:56 GMT
Sadly I don't think he'll ever truely move on from this. Despite being admonished of any wrong doing he'll still carry the burden & post incident & court case stresses around with him for life now. & the fact they saw fit to name him, & with the type of characters Kaba associated with means he'll likely live the rest of his life on tenterhooks with one eye behind his back at all times. It could potentially mean him having to relocate his family and go under a different name moving forwards as well. All because the judge saw fit to name him in proceedings. Kind of ironic I feel considering the same judge felt it wasn't appropriate or necessary to have Kabas previous convictions read out in open court! The amount of pandering to the person who's clearly in the wrong and ultimately the dock, and sheer inconsistency in the legal process is staggering these days. I made this point earlier....imagine he'd been found guilty and then we find out all this shyte he's been doing shooting people in nightclubs and the like. He's a scummy little rat and that part of London is a bit safer with him not roaming tje streets. Zero sympathy im afraid. And his parents obviously did a shyte job raising him.. & potentially lets not forget the jury could have decided to find him guilty on what they'd been informed of ie half the story! To me the above example would have made the jurors feel like they made a truely life changing decision based on incorrect facts and missing a big chunk of the relevant information could have held a big bearing on their decision making process, important information which they weren't privy too. The case was clearly so clear cut, as watching all the camera footage alone made clear, that fortunately the jurors will all have been vindicated in their decision making processes & this breaking news today won't overtly change their opinions of things. Infavt if anything totally confirm their decision making processes. Be interesting to see if the protests and planned protests about police brutality disappear now with today's unsurprising revelations. Will never happen but be interesting & good to see Stormzy come out and publicly apologise for backing the wrong horse in this race! |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 22, 2024 15:37:14 GMT
I made this point earlier....imagine he'd been found guilty and then we find out all this shyte he's been doing shooting people in nightclubs and the like. He's a scummy little rat and that part of London is a bit safer with him not roaming tje streets. Zero sympathy im afraid. And his parents obviously did a shyte job raising him.. & potentially lets not forget the jury could have decided to find him guilty on what they'd been informed of ie half the story! To me the above example would have made the jurors feel like they made a truely life changing decision based on incorrect facts and missing a big chunk of the relevant information could have held a big bearing on their decision making process, important information which they weren't privy too. The case was clearly so clear cut, as watching all the camera footage alone made clear, that fortunately the jurors will all have been vindicated in their decision making processes & this breaking news today won't overtly change their opinions of things. Be interesting to see if the protests and planned protests about police brutality disappear now with today's unsurprising revelations. Will never happen but be interesting & good to see Stormzy come out and publicly apologise for backing the wrong horse in this race! Aye the legal processes need looking at. Anonymity and all that too. My own son last year was a witness to a murder (stabbing) in Manchester. Called as a witness which i was extremely nervous about so pressed for anonymity due to the fact my own lad is from where the murder took place and will be known by some of the clowns involved. Police said no, can't be done. So his fucking name was published on court docs. I mean how can that be fair for a random 12 year old boy who inhabits the same streets as this kind of scum... |
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Post by callas12 on Oct 22, 2024 15:40:10 GMT
& potentially lets not forget the jury could have decided to find him guilty on what they'd been informed of ie half the story! To me the above example would have made the jurors feel like they made a truely life changing decision based on incorrect facts and missing a big chunk of the relevant information could have held a big bearing on their decision making process, important information which they weren't privy too. The case was clearly so clear cut, as watching all the camera footage alone made clear, that fortunately the jurors will all have been vindicated in their decision making processes & this breaking news today won't overtly change their opinions of things. Be interesting to see if the protests and planned protests about police brutality disappear now with today's unsurprising revelations. Will never happen but be interesting & good to see Stormzy come out and publicly apologise for backing the wrong horse in this race! Aye the legal processes need looking at. Anonymity and all that too. My own son last year was a witness to a murder (stabbing) in Manchester. Called as a witness which i was extremely nervous about so pressed for anonymity due to the fact my own lad is from where the murder took place and will be known by some of the clowns involved. Police said no, can't be done. So his fucking name was published on court docs. I mean how can that be fair for a random 12 year old boy who inhabits the same streets as this kind of scum... Wow that's awful to hear. Awful for what he witnessed & brave for giving his account on, but not being able to remain anonymous in the evidence giving process is shocking. Hope your lads been OK since |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 22, 2024 15:48:46 GMT
Sadly I don't think he'll ever truely move on from this. Despite being admonished of any wrong doing he'll still carry the burden & post incident & court case stresses around with him for life now. & the fact they saw fit to name him, & with the type of characters Kaba associated with means he'll likely live the rest of his life on tenterhooks with one eye behind his back at all times. It could potentially mean him having to relocate his family and go under a different name moving forwards as well. All because the judge saw fit to name him in proceedings. Kind of ironic I feel considering the same judge felt it wasn't appropriate or necessary to have Kabas previous convictions read out in open court! The amount of pandering to the person who's clearly in the wrong and ultimately the dock, and sheer inconsistency in the legal process is staggering these days. I made this point earlier....imagine he'd (Blake) been found guilty and then we find out all this shyte he's been doing shooting people in nightclubs and the like. He's a scummy little rat and that part of London is a bit safer with him not roaming the streets. Zero sympathy I'm afraid. And his parents obviously did a shyte job raising him.. But his parents said he was a good lad and wouldn't harm anyone He also loved kittens and sick puppies |
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Oct 22, 2024 16:09:04 GMT
& potentially lets not forget the jury could have decided to find him guilty on what they'd been informed of ie half the story! To me the above example would have made the jurors feel like they made a truely life changing decision based on incorrect facts and missing a big chunk of the relevant information could have held a big bearing on their decision making process, important information which they weren't privy too. The case was clearly so clear cut, as watching all the camera footage alone made clear, that fortunately the jurors will all have been vindicated in their decision making processes & this breaking news today won't overtly change their opinions of things. Be interesting to see if the protests and planned protests about police brutality disappear now with today's unsurprising revelations. Will never happen but be interesting & good to see Stormzy come out and publicly apologise for backing the wrong horse in this race! Aye the legal processes need looking at. Anonymity and all that too. My own son last year was a witness to a murder (stabbing) in Manchester. Called as a witness which i was extremely nervous about so pressed for anonymity due to the fact my own lad is from where the murder took place and will be known by some of the clowns involved. Police said no, can't be done. So his fucking name was published on court docs. I mean how can that be fair for a random 12 year old boy who inhabits the same streets as this kind of scum... Best wishes to your lad. That must have been awful. |
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Post by franklin on Oct 22, 2024 16:21:00 GMT
I think ultimately they did and rolled the dice I'm sure they knew it was a weak case but it served a purpose in the eyes of the public so I understand why they did it. I have my suspicion of why they took the decision as I've stated previously it's a shame and emotionally stressful for the officer but he'll move on in some way now I suspect he'll never police the streets again unfortunately. I think he'll be allowed to retire given the stress and the trauma of the incident and live hopefully a quiet life with his family. Sadly I don't think he'll ever truely move on from this. Despite being admonished of any wrong doing he'll still carry the burden & post incident & court case stresses around with him for life now. & the fact they saw fit to name him, & with the type of characters Kaba associated with means he'll likely live the rest of his life on tenterhooks with one eye behind his back at all times. It could potentially mean him having to relocate his family and go under a different name moving forwards as well. All because the judge saw fit to name him in proceedings. Kind of ironic I feel considering the same judge felt it wasn't appropriate or necessary to have Kabas previous convictions read out in open court! There's arguments for and against offenders pre convictions being read out in court, I'd definitely be an advocate of all previous pre convictions being revealed as it paints a true picture of the person under suspicion. & in cases such as this would have made things alot more clear & obvious in the jurers minds. But no the judge denied to allow the jury to know any part of this. Instead they'd have been painted the picture by the CPS, offenders family and celeb backers such as Sormzy, Sadiq Khan & Diane Abbott that Kaba was a nice family guy & this killing was purely a Police v colour shooting matter which it wasn't and never was! The amount of pandering to the person who's clearly in the wrong in this case as opposed to the dock, and sheer inconsistency in the legal process is staggering these days. Agreed I just hope whatever the officer does he's happy and safe but I doubt he'll work again he's been suspended for 2yrs already it's a life time in policing. |
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Post by xchpotter on Oct 22, 2024 16:35:40 GMT
He was charged for no other reason than to appease people and to avoid public outcry and cover up accusations. As for discrepancies I ask anyone to recount an incident perfectly that would have happened probably weeks ago as more often than not the officer would NOT do his statement directly after the incident, he may make an initial statement but it would be brief and lack details. There are post incident protocols that are followed so he would have had some time to wait before making his statement, he would have had a federation rep allocated and legal representative allocated pretty much immediately and his welfare would have been the first issue to be dealt with, nobody and I mean nobody at all would be talking to him as far as evidence is concerned. I'd be more concerned if the evidence was perfect and that there were not discrepancies. Different people see and hear differently I've seen it so many times so that's nothing new and by no means a basis for guilt. See the match day threads every game and we all see what we believe to be an incident in match and there are always contradicting opinions and discrepancies in facts we've all "seen" and "know" to be true. Yep politically motivated and because the CPS didn’t have the balls to not charge him as they would not want to be blamed for subsequent riots. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 22, 2024 16:48:56 GMT
Either that or the CPS decided there was a case to answer and they did their job and the court duly did theirs? Do you actually understand what the rule of law means? Do you understand you'll soon have nobody in the force willing to carry a gun to take these rats on. Or indeed wanting to be police officers at all. We'll all be sorry then, when these rats are running the streets and nobody feels safe leaving their homes.. Well at least you've answered my question - no you don't understand the rule of law. The use of firearms by the police is covered by the law. Every police officer who puts themselves forward for armed duty knows they are subject to scrutiny and if there is evidence that may not have followed protocol they may be subject to prosecution. Which is what happened on this case. As it should. And a jury examined the evidence. As it should. And based on the evidence the officer was acquitted. All as it should. And there will still be brave and decent police officers who will put themselves forward for armed duty because the square root of fuck all as happened to change the situation as a result of this case. And the general public will be protected from criminals and any nutjob police officer who believes they are Judge Dredd and have the right to shoot to kill. And no this officer isn't one of them. |
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Post by xchpotter on Oct 22, 2024 17:25:14 GMT
Do you understand you'll soon have nobody in the force willing to carry a gun to take these rats on. Or indeed wanting to be police officers at all. We'll all be sorry then, when these rats are running the streets and nobody feels safe leaving their homes.. Well at least you've answered my question - no you don't understand the rule of law. The use of firearms by the police is covered by the law. Every police officer who puts themselves forward for armed duty knows they are subject to scrutiny and if there is evidence that may not have followed protocol they may be subject to prosecution. Which is what happened on this case. As it should. And a jury examined the evidence. As it should. And based on the evidence the officer was acquitted. All as it should. And there will still be brave and decent police officers who will put themselves forward for armed duty because the square root of fuck all as happened to change the situation as a result of this case. And the general public will be protected from criminals and any nutjob police officer who believes they are Judge Dredd and have the right to shoot to kill. And no this officer isn't one of them. May I ask, do you have any in depth knowledge of police procedures around firearms, or do you know the lawyers or CPS associated with this case? Just trying to understand what evidence you know of that suggests protocol was not followed. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Oct 22, 2024 18:14:45 GMT
Well at least you've answered my question - no you don't understand the rule of law. The use of firearms by the police is covered by the law. Every police officer who puts themselves forward for armed duty knows they are subject to scrutiny and if there is evidence that may not have followed protocol they may be subject to prosecution. Which is what happened on this case. As it should. And a jury examined the evidence. As it should. And based on the evidence the officer was acquitted. All as it should. And there will still be brave and decent police officers who will put themselves forward for armed duty because the square root of fuck all as happened to change the situation as a result of this case. And the general public will be protected from criminals and any nutjob police officer who believes they are Judge Dredd and have the right to shoot to kill. And no this officer isn't one of them. May I ask, do you have any in depth knowledge of police procedures around firearms, or do you know the lawyers or CPS associated with this case? Just trying to understand what evidence you know of that suggests protocol was not followed. Not sure if it’s on you tube but there was a brilliant call from a firearms officer on LBC today who explained everything around decision making and the process (which goes way beyond what people think). The way I see it is - vehicle is flagged up as being involved in firearms incident the previous night. - Decision made by management in control room as to who deploys(because incident was last night risk is greater than say 3 months ago so would be deployed to firearms rather than a normal response unit as threat to officers is high. - Tactics discussed and decisions made around the vehicle being stopped by control. - Vehicle refused to stop so tactics change and speed up. - Could the firearm be in the vehicle still? - options discussed re the stopping of the vehicle. People talk about shooting the tyres that won’t necessarily work immediately neither will a stinger due to location. It’s complex and fast moving. |
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Post by sticky on Oct 22, 2024 18:25:20 GMT
Easy to forget police officers (more so ones who carry arms) are human as well, if some scumbag is trying ram a tonne plus lump of metal at me I’d do the same.
Now he’s named and his life’s changed for ever, just for doing his job. That shouldn't be the case surely… and then you get these rich perverts chucking super injunctions in all the time
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 22, 2024 18:28:14 GMT
I hope the officer is getting full support and assistance to get his career back on track. He’s dealt with a wrong un as the police should do but often don’t or more so aren’t allowed to
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Oct 22, 2024 18:40:47 GMT
I hope the officer is getting full support and assistance to get his career back on track. He’s dealt with a wrong un as the police should do but often don’t or more so aren’t allowed to Read somewhere where mr Blake was being threatened by gangs. hope it’s not true but if it is he has a good case for sueing the courts for releasing his name. |
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Post by emretezzy on Oct 22, 2024 18:49:01 GMT
Well at least you've answered my question - no you don't understand the rule of law. The use of firearms by the police is covered by the law. Every police officer who puts themselves forward for armed duty knows they are subject to scrutiny and if there is evidence that may not have followed protocol they may be subject to prosecution. Which is what happened on this case. As it should. And a jury examined the evidence. As it should. And based on the evidence the officer was acquitted. All as it should. And there will still be brave and decent police officers who will put themselves forward for armed duty because the square root of fuck all as happened to change the situation as a result of this case. And the general public will be protected from criminals and any nutjob police officer who believes they are Judge Dredd and have the right to shoot to kill. And no this officer isn't one of them. May I ask, do you have any in depth knowledge of police procedures around firearms, or do you know the lawyers or CPS associated with this case? Just trying to understand what evidence you know of that suggests protocol was not followed. Haha does he fuck. Hes just got a hardline opinion on everything and anything. Dismissing anyone else like a feeble minded fool. |
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