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Post by Bojan Mackey on Sept 29, 2024 18:57:16 GMT
This club is lucky we haven’t burnt the directors box to the ground.
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Post by banksy1art on Sept 29, 2024 19:01:48 GMT
The whole clubs embarrassing at the minute, fans heavily included in that. A following of 1,300 at Middlesbrough to watch that dirge is most certainly not embarrassing. majority were on the players backs from the first whistle, screaming, shouting, booing when we were trying to keep the ball a bit and build with the ball. Then when we did what the fans wanted (just booting it up the pitch) the fans cheered, then went back to booing as soon as we lost the ball again. That’s what happens when you just boot it up the pitch. Deluded fan base at times. Putting pressure on our own players |
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Post by rabbigan on Sept 29, 2024 19:02:51 GMT
I understand how people feel after the wasted years since relegation . Bad decision after bad decision.
I have made the long trips to the North East many times over the years and generally have come away on the wrong side of the result and I agree we should expect the players who represent the club to put out everything but at the end of the day they are human beings and for a variety of reasons people do behave with different levels of effort and success.
I agree with those who say the club is in a critical phase mainly through awful management and I dont mean the coaching side. All of the comments regarding our new Head Coach from respected professional like Muniesa and Bojan has been totally positive and I dont believe they would have been anything but honest in their opinion.
Lets hope we see a better performance Wednesday.
C'mom Stoke
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Post by cheadlepotter on Sept 29, 2024 19:08:26 GMT
I fear for Wednesday night v Portsmouth. Another dire performance and the atmosphere could become toxic. At the last home game it is alleged that there were numerous arguments on the terraces. Personally I think I have now become immune and may not bother attending. Thompson and a fan near me had a few words at the end of the game. |
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Post by premieraj on Sept 29, 2024 19:10:20 GMT
I fear for Wednesday night v Portsmouth. Another dire performance and the atmosphere could become toxic. At the last home game it is alleged that there were numerous arguments on the terraces. Personally I think I have now become immune and may not bother attending. Thompson and a fan near me had a few words at the end of the game. Did you hear what was said? |
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Post by thornestein on Sept 29, 2024 19:11:37 GMT
A following of 1,300 at Middlesbrough to watch that dirge is most certainly not embarrassing. majority were on the players backs from the first whistle, screaming, shouting, booing when we were trying to keep the ball a bit and build with the ball. Then when we did what the fans wanted (just booting it up the pitch) the fans cheered, then went back to booing as soon as we lost the ball again. That’s what happens when you just boot it up the pitch. Deluded fan base at times. Putting pressure on our own players another muppet blaming the fans 🙄 |
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Post by Numismatist on Sept 29, 2024 19:13:43 GMT
A following of 1,300 at Middlesbrough to watch that dirge is most certainly not embarrassing. majority were on the players backs from the first whistle, screaming, shouting, booing when we were trying to keep the ball a bit and build with the ball. Then when we did what the fans wanted (just booting it up the pitch) the fans cheered, then went back to booing as soon as we lost the ball again. That’s what happens when you just boot it up the pitch. Deluded fan base at times. Putting pressure on our own players The majority of fans weren’t on the players backs from the first whistle, that’s an unfair representation. I didn’t hear a single dissenting voice until the in own box nonsense and defensive side to side guff. |
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 29, 2024 19:14:27 GMT
Perhaps when they outwork another tram they'll get the applause they deserve. In the meantime, they need telling that they are a huge part of the resdim the club is a basket case. Imagine clapping that yesterday. Do you thank your missus if she shits on a plate and says there's your tea? I'd applaud the improvement tbh. |
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Post by cheadlepotter on Sept 29, 2024 19:18:01 GMT
Thompson and a fan near me had a few words at the end of the game. Did you hear what was said? I didn’t catch all of it, could’ve been aimed at Thompson personally or the team, but it ended with a less than polite description of the performance. Couldn’t tell what Thompson was saying but he definitely responded. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 29, 2024 19:22:02 GMT
A following of 1,300 at Middlesbrough to watch that dirge is most certainly not embarrassing. majority were on the players backs from the first whistle, screaming, shouting, booing when we were trying to keep the ball a bit and build with the ball. Then when we did what the fans wanted (just booting it up the pitch) the fans cheered, then went back to booing as soon as we lost the ball again. That’s what happens when you just boot it up the pitch. Deluded fan base at times. Putting pressure on our own players Pressure my arse. They've been shouted at all the way through grass roots football by their coaches. If they can't grasp the concept of doing shit properly and with maximum effort in order to not get booed in the first place then that's on them. We are bringing kids up now to only understand being told they are wonderful and tje next Messi bullshit. Life isn't wonderful, its a graft for all of us trying to make it in the world. They need to grow some bollox sort their shit out and come out fighting like dogs. Its pathetic all this ahh the poor players, please don't boo them or they'll be all upset. Best job on the planet they have. Start behaving like it.. And I've never booed a player in my life btw. But I fully understand why they are getting booed. |
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Post by wykepotter on Sept 29, 2024 20:28:23 GMT
Did you hear what was said? I didn’t catch all of it, could’ve been aimed at Thompson personally or the team, but it ended with a less than polite description of the performance. Couldn’t tell what Thompson was saying but he definitely responded. I didn’t notice Thompson speaking with a fan but it sounded clear that there was a fair number calling the performance wa*k and, I thought, calling some of the the players wa*kers, particularly near the front. It sounded pretty personal. It was my first, live match, this season (living in Yorkshire) but it did surprise me, the level of vitriol, 2 games into a new regime with a young team trying to adapt to a new style. I felt, particularly for Koumas, Sidibe, Moran, Cannon and Junho walking over to that. |
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Post by cheadlepotter on Sept 29, 2024 22:43:57 GMT
I didn’t catch all of it, could’ve been aimed at Thompson personally or the team, but it ended with a less than polite description of the performance. Couldn’t tell what Thompson was saying but he definitely responded. I didn’t notice Thompson speaking with a fan but it sounded clear that there was a fair number calling the performance wa*k and, I thought, calling some of the the players wa*kers, particularly near the front. It sounded pretty personal. It was my first, live match, this season (living in Yorkshire) but it did surprise me, the level of vitriol, 2 games into a new regime with a young team trying to adapt to a new style. I felt, particularly for Koumas, Sidibe, Moran, Cannon and Junho walking over to that. Yeah me too, though Junho does need to wake up a bit. I didn’t boo, but I didn’t give them a pity applause either. This one is all on Walters (but ultimately Coates, again) if it doesn’t improve sharpish. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Sept 29, 2024 23:00:27 GMT
I think we’ve finally reached a tipping point where the vast majority of people are finally tired of the years of incompetence, deflection, empty promises, disappointing football, abysmal home form, bad player recruitment, confusing decisions, rookie managers, rookie sporting directors, constant changes in style, constant changes in personnel and you can just keep going.
Only surprising thing is that it’s taken nearly a decade of the above to reach this point.
I’d never really boo anyone but I’m beyond caring when anyone else does, people pay a lot of money, invest a lot of time into this team and they’ve ultimately got a right to express themselves. I probably wish it was a little more directed at the real culprits.
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Post by Eggybread on Sept 30, 2024 7:07:19 GMT
I thought it looked dreadful and sounded terrible for our young players, utterly embarrassing after one full game in charge.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Sept 30, 2024 8:01:04 GMT
I think we’ve finally reached a tipping point where the vast majority of people are finally tired of the years of incompetence, deflection, empty promises, disappointing football, abysmal home form, bad player recruitment, confusing decisions, rookie managers, rookie sporting directors, constant changes in style, constant changes in personnel and you can just keep going. Only surprising thing is that it’s taken nearly a decade of the above to reach this point. I’d never really boo anyone but I’m beyond caring when anyone else does, people pay a lot of money, invest a lot of time into this team and they’ve ultimately got a right to express themselves. I probably wish it was a little more directed at the real culprits. A decent post, some of the points made are certainly up for debate with friends/supporters over a quiet pint (but not straight after a game 😂😂) Your use of the term “tipping point” is bang on. Personally I believe booing adds to negativity and division amongst long suffering supporters (see some of the comments on this thread and others where the term “happy clapper” is quite come), also demoralising players who eventually go into a shell, being afraid to play to their optimum in case they make a mistake. Individual players being singled out for abuse. How to show your frustrations whilst seeking positive change is a dilemma, one I don’t have an answer for. My only analogy is boycotting a pub if the ale is awful and too expensive. Supporters have been encouraged to vote with their feet for years but even that potential solution (or part of a solution) tends to fail. The disappointing aspect of the “tipping point” and justified criticisms (footballing) is that all the work going on in respect of supporter engagement initiatives are being lost. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 30, 2024 8:44:48 GMT
I thought it looked dreadful and sounded terrible for our young players, utterly embarrassing after one full game in charge. I never have and never will Boo but the coach got literally every single element of the game wrong on saturday i am not sure you can expect anything else from people who have been not been given a reason for change , told hes a a tactical genius and travelled 160 miles to watch that |
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Post by Eggybread on Sept 30, 2024 8:53:08 GMT
I thought it looked dreadful and sounded terrible for our young players, utterly embarrassing after one full game in charge. I never have and never will Boo but the coach got literally every single element of the game wrong on saturday i am not sure you can expect anything else from people who have been not been given a reason for change , told hes a a tactical genius and travelled 160 miles to watch that One game mate, one game.Its going to take time and we have to be patient.If we arent it will only be detrimental to our entire club |
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Post by noustie on Sept 30, 2024 8:55:24 GMT
Happy clapping isn't going to solve anything.
Ambivalence is the next stage in the response and if crowds drop then so does income.
It's pretty simple really - if performances got better following the sacking then crowds would be onboard but if it continues to go backwards with questions around whether he ever had the dressing room to begin with will be a natural reaction. Booing is the least of our worries - it's like the head chef of the Titanic realising they're all out of lobster thermidor.
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Post by Bang Bang Cauliflower on Sept 30, 2024 9:10:00 GMT
I think rather than booing, I think the best message we can send is simply not to go.
I'd rather not use my Season Ticket than waste time and (more) money on these muppets personally; although I can more than understand people attending and booing.
Only thing Coates cares about is money so hitting him in the pocket will force his hand sooner than booing IMHO.
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Post by Eggybread on Sept 30, 2024 9:14:23 GMT
I think rather than booing, I think the best message we can send is simply not to go. I'd rather not use my Season Ticket than waste time and (more) money on these muppets personally; although I can more than understand people attending and booing. Only thing Coates cares about is money so hitting him in the pocket will force his hand sooner than booing IMHO. I dont think a few fans who have already paid for their season ticket not attending is going to bother Coates one bit.. |
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Sept 30, 2024 9:17:48 GMT
I think rather than booing, I think the best message we can send is simply not to go. I'd rather not use my Season Ticket than waste time and (more) money on these muppets personally; although I can more than understand people attending and booing. Only thing Coates cares about is money so hitting him in the pocket will force his hand sooner than booing IMHO. Hitting him the pocket won't work mate they are drowning in money. |
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Post by stokeoptimist on Sept 30, 2024 9:24:05 GMT
I think rather than booing, I think the best message we can send is simply not to go. I'd rather not use my Season Ticket than waste time and (more) money on these muppets personally; although I can more than understand people attending and booing. Only thing Coates cares about is money so hitting him in the pocket will force his hand sooner than booing IMHO. That literally has to be the most stupid comment I have ever read on this board and that is saying something. If Mr Coates only cared about money he certainly wouldn't be the owner of a football club? Never mind freezing ticket prices for so long or offering free travel. You can criticise decision making but that is just ridiculous. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 30, 2024 10:38:55 GMT
We were that bad,I'm surprised the Boro fans didn't boo our players also.
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Post by stokiejoe on Sept 30, 2024 10:48:30 GMT
Happy clapping isn't going to solve anything. Ambivalence is the next stage in the response and if crowds drop then so does income. It's pretty simple really - if performances got better following the sacking then crowds would be onboard but if it continues to go backwards with questions around whether he ever had the dressing room to begin with will be a natural reaction. Booing is the least of our worries - it's like the head chef of the Titanic realising they're all out of lobster thermidor. Unfortunately the income from attendance is very small in comparison to tv rights etc so will have little impact particularly as the season tickets have been paid for. The drop in attendance would change the atmosphere but only if it dropped really low. Sadly booing or singing things like " you don't know what you're doing" do have an impact. Unpleasant but effective. |
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Post by onionman on Sept 30, 2024 10:58:57 GMT
I never have and never will Boo but the coach got literally every single element of the game wrong on saturday i am not sure you can expect anything else from people who have been not been given a reason for change , told hes a a tactical genius and travelled 160 miles to watch that One game mate, one game.Its going to take time and we have to be patient.If we arent it will only be detrimental to our entire club Why are we calling it one game? Has one of his games been wiped from history? |
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Post by Eggybread on Sept 30, 2024 11:13:19 GMT
One game mate, one game.Its going to take time and we have to be patient.If we arent it will only be detrimental to our entire club Why are we calling it one game? Has one of his games been wiped from history? Are you being serious?Do you think he had any input against Hull? If I was him Id resign now. |
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Post by onionman on Sept 30, 2024 11:16:13 GMT
Why are we calling it one game? Has one of his games been wiped from history? Are you being serious?Do you think he had any input against Hull? It was his first game. He was that chap in the dugout. |
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Post by Eggybread on Sept 30, 2024 11:18:33 GMT
Are you being serious?Do you think he had any input against Hull? It was his first game. He was that chap in the dugout. Whatever.He should just resign now and have done with it.Booed after 1 or 2 games ,Id be fuck ya bye.  |
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Post by onionman on Sept 30, 2024 11:22:55 GMT
It was his first game. He was that chap in the dugout. Whatever.He should just resign now and have done with it.Booed after 1 or 2 games ,Id be fuck ya bye. He wasn’t booed after one game though. You can make an argument that it’s a bit harsh for the fans to get angry after two games if you like, but pretending he wasn’t manager for the Hull game is a bit weird, given his grand rollout and the fact we all saw him directing things from the technical area. |
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Post by jwhpotter on Sept 30, 2024 11:27:44 GMT
Regretfully my appeal last week to stop booing our team failed and the players were accompanied by boos at the end of the Boro game. We have to stick with this new manager and players if we are to have any hope of moving forward and away from the annual foot of the table end of season farce. Lets be fair the manager has been in charge for two weeks and none of the players were signed or recommended by him. We try again on Wednesday and its another chance to try and give help to both players and manager, giving belief and perhaps confidence. Please do as I would request the players dig deep and give it your very best of support it will be a great help, and if we can finally get out of this dismal run who knows we may just see more positive results going forward. C'mon Stoke !!!! Sadly, I expect to be booing at the final whistle on Wednesday night too, we’re in real trouble this season! |
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