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Post by Pugsley on Sept 30, 2024 11:29:58 GMT
Whatever.He should just resign now and have done with it.Booed after 1 or 2 games ,Id be fuck ya bye.  He wasn’t booed after one game though. You can make an argument that it’s a bit harsh for the fans to get angry after two games if you like, but pretending he wasn’t manager for the Hull game is a bit weird, given his grand rollout and the fact we all saw him directing things from the technical area. It's all on John Coates. Years of mismanagement, it's hardly surprising they get it with both barrels. It's harsh on the new bloke but he'll have to suck the mop, improve the team and results or he'll be gone. |
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Post by Block 22 on Sept 30, 2024 11:35:38 GMT
Happy clapping isn't going to solve anything. Ambivalence is the next stage in the response and if crowds drop then so does income. It's pretty simple really - if performances got better following the sacking then crowds would be onboard but if it continues to go backwards with questions around whether he ever had the dressing room to begin with will be a natural reaction. Booing is the least of our worries - it's like the head chef of the Titanic realising they're all out of lobster thermidor. Booing isn’t an issue but it was clear to see on the stream that some individuals were aggressively swearing, gesturing and hurling abuse at the players and playing staff. That’s pretty pathetic after the manager has had 1 full week in charge. If you’re annoyed with the regression over the last 15 years go and abuse Jon Coates, not the playing staff who’ve had about 5 training sessions under the new coaching team. |
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Post by onionman on Sept 30, 2024 11:44:50 GMT
He wasn’t booed after one game though. You can make an argument that it’s a bit harsh for the fans to get angry after two games if you like, but pretending he wasn’t manager for the Hull game is a bit weird, given his grand rollout and the fact we all saw him directing things from the technical area. It's all on John Coates. Years of mismanagement, it's hardly surprising they get it with both barrels. It's harsh on the new bloke but he'll have to suck the mop, improve the team and results or he'll be gone. Yes, I agree, everything stems from Coates. He continually appoints complete idiots and gives them carte blanche to do whatever they want, which has almost always proved disastrous. I don't think anyone has a personal issue with Pelach, although we've seen enough already to suggest his methods are pretty questionable. Pretty sure the anger we saw on Saturday is based on the decision to sack a mid-table manager and replace him with a bloke with zero managerial experience. Literally no club in the world has ever looked at Pelach and thought "there's a bloke I want to manage my team", yet Jon Walters has gone for him on a whim. Anyway I only joined this conversation because someone was making out Boro was his first game. |
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Post by jordan2009 on Sept 30, 2024 12:11:28 GMT
My lads mate wanted leave on 85 minutes Saturday (who can blame him). However I persuaded him stick it out until the final whistle. Obviously I didn't want stay for the scintillating football. I wanted see the reaction of the fans. I expected a few boos. They got a bit more, I'm sure the players and coaches realise how pissed off we are as a fan base. I'll get behind the Head Coach, but that was fucking wank Saturday. And I can fully understand the fans reaction. What's pissing me off his the silence from above the Narcis. Where's JW and JC, I'd of hoped for a little message from them. I didn't support the sacking of Schumacher, I did think that JW was doing it for the right reasons. Now I'm not too sure, seems a massive clash of ego's to me.
We'll be there again next Saturday at Swansea. I've certainly arrived at the point where I can't be fucking arsed with this club. We travel up and down watch this side. However I've got to the point where I'm honestly only going because my lad loves going away games.
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Post by noustie on Sept 30, 2024 12:54:41 GMT
Happy clapping isn't going to solve anything. Ambivalence is the next stage in the response and if crowds drop then so does income. It's pretty simple really - if performances got better following the sacking then crowds would be onboard but if it continues to go backwards with questions around whether he ever had the dressing room to begin with will be a natural reaction. Booing is the least of our worries - it's like the head chef of the Titanic realising they're all out of lobster thermidor. Booing isn’t an issue but it was clear to see on the stream that some individuals were aggressively swearing, gesturing and hurling abuse at the players and playing staff. That’s pretty pathetic after the manager has had 1 full week in charge. If you’re annoyed with the regression over the last 15 years go and abuse Jon Coates, not the playing staff who’ve had about 5 training sessions under the new coaching team. To be honest within reason I don't mind that - they're footballers paid to play football and they're doing it badly but, more worryingly, half arsed. John Coates and Walters should be criticized too as the decision looks more and more batshit mental every day but for me that's a different conversation. The players on the pitch Saturday to me didn't fancy it and they really aren't doing the new gaffer many favours. If I'd done that round trip pretty sure I'd have hurled a few expletives towards the end at them. We're in that much of a mess probably the only one so far absolved of blame is actually the manager/ head coach himself which shows how bizarre a situation we've managed to concoct out of what looked potentially a promising season ahead. |
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Post by Ron on Sept 30, 2024 12:57:56 GMT
I really dislike these happy crappy threads. That performance was shocking and every single boo well deserved.
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Post by Ron on Sept 30, 2024 12:58:45 GMT
This club is lucky we haven’t burnt the directors box to the ground. there’d have been riots elsewhere by now. I can’t understand why there’s never been a giant “what’s all the fuss about!” Banner? I think it’s time! |
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Post by canaladict on Oct 1, 2024 6:26:14 GMT
Are you lot for real?
You slag off the Coates family, an owner who provides Free and I will say that again Free coach travel to away games,
also I cannot for the life of me remember when the price of a season ticket increased.
Football fan means supporting your team through thick and thin, the scenes that I saw after this shocker, embarrasses me to
call myself a Stoke fan, a team which I have followed since the 1960's.
Some of you so called fans should be ashamed of yourselves, if you are not happy don't go. Simples!
Onwards and Upwards
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Post by Gods on Oct 1, 2024 6:30:57 GMT
Are you lot for real? You slag off the Coates family, an owner who provides Free and I will say that again Free coach travel to away games, also I cannot for the life of me remember when the price of a season ticket increased. Football fan means supporting your team through thick and thin, the scenes that I saw after this shocker, embarrasses me to call myself a Stoke fan, a team which I have followed since the 1960's. Some of you so called fans should be ashamed of yourselves, if you are not happy don't go. Simples! Onwards and Upwards There's been plenty of Onwards, it's the lack of Upwards folks are grizzling away about. |
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Post by Davef on Oct 1, 2024 6:57:40 GMT
Are you lot for real? You slag off the Coates family, an owner who provides Free and I will say that again Free coach travel to away games, also I cannot for the life of me remember when the price of a season ticket increased. Football fan means supporting your team through thick and thin, the scenes that I saw after this shocker, embarrasses me to call myself a Stoke fan, a team which I have followed since the 1960's. Some of you so called fans should be ashamed of yourselves, if you are not happy don't go. Simples! Onwards and Upwards If you're lucky you might get your season ticket even cheaper next season if our glorious billionaire leader takes us down into League One. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 1, 2024 7:14:06 GMT
I really dislike these happy crappy threads. That performance was shocking and every single boo well deserved. I know. When they play so shyte so often what do they think is going happen? |
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Post by Scouse on Oct 1, 2024 7:38:44 GMT
Personally don’t boo ..just the way I was brought up , as I’ve got older I’ve realised why not … achieves nothing , if anything is counterproductive and it makes the one doing the booing look poor
Nor do I follow the modern day trend , started by Sunderland fans of bouncing out the ground early like some overgrown telletubby ..again it’s not a good look
Doesn’t mean I’m a happy clapper ..silence is golden at a place you’re expected to make noise
That being said , the booing at Boro wasn’t unexpected , the abuse though was OTT .. though the club ( DoF ) the HC and the players need to read the room better , that three times now Blackpool , Plymouth and Boro that there’s been confrontations between players and fans , following abject performances .. don’t pay lip service , if you must applaud gather briefly in the centre circle hold your hands up as a sign of apology and applaud v briefly then get off ..don’t poke the flames ..
Edit notes , I pressed send before I’d finished , so had to quickly add other lines via edit
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Post by colderpotter on Oct 1, 2024 7:47:31 GMT
Personally don’t boo ..just the way I was brought up , as I’ve got older I’ve realised why not … achieves nothing , if anything is counterproductive and it makes the one doing the booing look poor Nor do I follow the modern day trend , started by Sunderland fans of bouncing out the ground early like some overgrown telletubby ..again it’s not a good look Doesn’t mean I’m a happy clapper ..silence is golden at a place your expected to make noise That being said , the booing at Boro wasn’t unexpected , the abuse though was OTT .. though the club ( DoF ) the HC and the players need to read the room better , that three times now Blackpool , Plymouth and Boro that there’s been confrontations between players and fans Welcome to the modern world where labels are king (said at the risk of being labelled a sexist monarchist). |
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Post by Pottersfan on Oct 1, 2024 8:23:00 GMT
This club is lucky we haven’t burnt the directors box to the ground. there’d have been riots elsewhere by now. I can’t understand why there’s never been a giant “what’s all the fuss about!” Banner? I think it’s time! Get one made then Ron |
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Post by mamathestriker on Oct 1, 2024 8:23:46 GMT
I've never booed, but neither am I going to be holier than thou and tell fans they shouldn't.
It was completely understandable why people booed. It was utter dogshite, a rancid performance.
I'd prefer anger to apathy.
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Post by stoke624 on Oct 1, 2024 12:25:25 GMT
Why are some people so against displaying any form of anger? It isn't negative; no one has been physically harmed. So obsessed with 'always being positive'. When we are playing well, we express our happiness and gratitude as supporters by singing, clapping etc. We convey the message to the players that we appreciate the effort, even if the team loses.
Booing to express anger at the way the club is being run, on and off the pitch, couldn't be more appropriate given the circumstances, and is just as necessary as cheering the team on. Support them at the start, support them if they put the effort in (even if they are shit) but for god sake let the fucking overpaid, inept, lazy overpaid cnuts know if they cant be arsed, like boro away. It's called being passionate about the club; if the passion is gone, then there really isn't any point in calling yourself a fan.
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Post by Eggybread on Oct 1, 2024 12:50:36 GMT
Arent we just one of the 80 odd clubs who will win nothing and be frustrated year after year.
We are no different than any other club or their supporters.
Get behind the new manager and players if not then we will never ever be successful,its a simple as that.Regardles of Coates or any other outside influences.
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Post by peterpan1 on Oct 1, 2024 12:53:05 GMT
Fans have every right to vent their frustration. It's supposed to be the entertainment business after all. If you buy a ticket to see a band in concert and they're 💩 then the same applies. In fact, it goes as far back as the Gladiators with Russell Crowe's famous one liner!
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Post by Eggybread on Oct 1, 2024 13:16:59 GMT
Fans have every right to vent their frustration. It's supposed to be the entertainment business after all. If you buy a ticket to see a band in concert and they're 💩 then the same applies. In fact, it goes as far back as the Gladiators with Russell Crowe's famous one liner! How many other clubs with a new manager have shown such outright venom towards their manager and the team after two games? |
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 1, 2024 13:34:40 GMT
Fans have every right to vent their frustration. It's supposed to be the entertainment business after all. If you buy a ticket to see a band in concert and they're 💩 then the same applies. In fact, it goes as far back as the Gladiators with Russell Crowe's famous one liner! How many other clubs with a new manager have shown such outright venom towards their manager and the team after two games? It's not just two games though, anyone that thinks it is are just naive. It's 8 years of decline, bad decision after bad decision, changing the direction of the club on a whim almost every season, no forward planning whatsoever etc etc. |
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Post by Eggybread on Oct 1, 2024 13:41:04 GMT
How many other clubs with a new manager have shown such outright venom towards their manager and the team after two games? It's not just two games though, anyone that thinks it is are just naive. It's 8 years of decline, bad decision after bad decision, changing the direction of the club on a whim almost every season, no forward planning whatsoever etc etc. As I said like most other clubs.We have had a number of frustrating years yes but what do people expect Nascis to come in and just flip a switch ? Its going to take time no matter what people want or expect and it will only succeed if we are all in in together.Nothing else will breed success. |
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 1, 2024 13:50:56 GMT
It's not just two games though, anyone that thinks it is are just naive. It's 8 years of decline, bad decision after bad decision, changing the direction of the club on a whim almost every season, no forward planning whatsoever etc etc. As I said like most other clubs.We have had a number of frustrating years yes but what do people expect Nascis to come in and just flip a switch ? Its going to take time no matter what people want or expect and it will only succeed if we are all in in together.Nothing else will breed success. We've battered Boro 3 visits in a row too, playing aggressive front foot football, completely taking apart their patient passing game. Then we rock up on Saturday and make 360 odd passes in our own half and only 80 in theirs. People are going to be pissed off. |
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Post by danceswithclams on Oct 1, 2024 14:13:48 GMT
Are you lot for real? You slag off the Coates family, an owner who provides Free and I will say that again Free coach travel to away games My boss forcibly sodomises me but it's ok because he gives me a KitKat afterwards. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 1, 2024 14:18:45 GMT
Fans have every right to vent their frustration. It's supposed to be the entertainment business after all. If you buy a ticket to see a band in concert and they're 💩 then the same applies. In fact, it goes as far back as the Gladiators with Russell Crowe's famous one liner! How many other clubs with a new manager have shown such outright venom towards their manager and the team after two games? That's on Walters for sacking a manager that the vast majority of fans were happy to let carry on the project he was originally brought in for. He's chucked this guy into a horrible situation. Which is not what a young coach taking on his first big front line role needs. Walters is a clown. |
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Post by brutus on Oct 1, 2024 14:21:30 GMT
How many other clubs with a new manager have shown such outright venom towards their manager and the team after two games? It's not just two games though, anyone that thinks it is are just naive. It's 8 years of decline, bad decision after bad decision, changing the direction of the club on a whim almost every season, no forward planning whatsoever etc etc. This! |
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Post by Eggybread on Oct 1, 2024 14:25:18 GMT
It's not just two games though, anyone that thinks it is are just naive. It's 8 years of decline, bad decision after bad decision, changing the direction of the club on a whim almost every season, no forward planning whatsoever etc etc. This! Which has nothing to do with the new manager. Why arent fans demonstrating outside the Bet 365 shouting Coates out then.like in the old days,why take it out on the manager? |
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Post by Bagwash on Oct 1, 2024 14:49:10 GMT
It wasn't just the fact that our tactics/performance were mind numbingly boring at Boro,it's also that there was nothing else...no fight...no pressing...no commitment.
That performance was up there with anything bad I've seen over the years,including the 3 wins season in 84/85.
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Post by onionman on Oct 1, 2024 15:01:20 GMT
Stoke could appoint my cat as manager. It would be unrealistic to expect any kind of cat to produce instant results, let alone my cat which has never managed a football club before, at Championship level or otherwise.
Certainly, my cat shouldn't be blamed for 8 years of terrible decisions by John Coates, so please don't boo my cat, at least not until it's had a couple of transfer windows so that Jon Walters can sign players that will suit its system better than Jordan Thompson and the like.
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Post by thornestein on Oct 1, 2024 15:12:03 GMT
Stoke could appoint my cat as manager. It would be unrealistic to expect any kind of cat to produce instant results, let alone my cat which has never managed a football club before, at Championship level or otherwise. Certainly, my cat shouldn't be blamed for 8 years of terrible decisions by John Coates, so please don't boo my cat, at least not until it's had a couple of transfer windows so that Jon Walters can sign players that will suit its system better than Jordan Thompson and the like. that’s not how the new system works , a DoF / SD employ a HC to suit the players we have |
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Post by boweryboy on Oct 1, 2024 15:53:14 GMT
I think some fans should wake up and smell the coffee, this is another poor set of players,the few decent players we have for whatever the reason are out of form,a coach that has never been in charge before is a receipt for disaster, after losing three one to Hull and he saw the performance of some of those players,there is no way you would pick the same team and and expect a different performance,that lack of action tells me all i need to know about what's in store for us !!!
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