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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 16, 2024 20:20:15 GMT
You’d hope he’d employ ones that have the same approach. And with this bloke not having been a manager and having his own entourage then I dont see why it’s an issue. Bar the calibre of the bloke doing it all. Even first time managers normally bring their own men that they have a personal relationship with and can trust though. If he's incapable of raising an entourage of the necessary quality, fair enough. And we don't know if he's had any say with Whitehead. At least they both have some experience working with Wagner with his style, but without that personal relationship, it's not ideal if they're going to be working together/talking for the first time tomorrow morning. I quite like it tbh. I hate all this manager bringing his entourage shite. But yeah, do I have they’ll pick the right people? No. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 16, 2024 20:21:55 GMT
There’s lots but people don’t want it. They want to remain shit. No one wants us to remain shit, don’t be silly. People just don’t believe there are better, wealthier people out there wanting to own Stoke City. If that was true they’d actually want the issue solving. And there’s only one way of that. So yeah we will remain shite and keep going around in circles. Well done the lot of you. |
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Post by a on Sept 16, 2024 20:22:04 GMT
It’s more that we don’t treat the real world like Footie Manager. You can’t just change the owners. They own the club, until you put your hand in your pocket and buy them out your only course of action is to parrot the same thing on here. When will you learn? Naive? Yes you are. You literally can 🤣 This whole there is no alternative is a weird cult like load of bollocks. I’m not stupid, why would I want to own a football club? There are however plenty of stupid people in the world that do. As is evidenced all of the fucking time. There aren’t any that are clamouring to buy Stoke are there? You’re suggesting the Coates (who would have to agree to this) sell up, someone swoops in and everything is sunshine and rainbows. Sorry to burst your bubble but the real world we live in doesn’t have that option on the table. So in short, no, it’s not going to happen (at least anytime soon). |
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Post by lordb on Sept 16, 2024 20:22:19 GMT
Haven’t they both worked under Wagner or am I missing something? They didn't overlap. Perlach went there in July 20 Whitehead left in Nov 19. So unclear how their paths would've crossed. If it's Walters curating the core of the coaching team, seems a bit weird, with him maybe just bringing this keeper coach? It's not weird It's what happens when you appoint someone with no clout whatsoever He will have no say over anything The result will be zero respect from the players as they will know he'll go before they will |
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Post by Davef on Sept 16, 2024 20:23:20 GMT
Norwich have said he can talk to Stoke ,so they don’t value him. No club stands in the way of a coach if they have the opportunity of getting a manager/head coach job. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 16, 2024 20:23:20 GMT
You literally can 🤣 This whole there is no alternative is a weird cult like load of bollocks. I’m not stupid, why would I want to own a football club? There are however plenty of stupid people in the world that do. As is evidenced all of the fucking time. There aren’t any that are clamouring to buy Stoke are there? You’re suggesting the Coates (who would have to agree to this) sell up, someone swoops in and everything is sunshine and rainbows. Sorry to burst your bubble but the real world we live in doesn’t have that option on the table. So in short, no, it’s not going to happen (at least anytime soon). Who knows? None of us. Who thought Ryan Reynolds would want to buy Wrexham? It’s an absolutely awful argument. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 16, 2024 20:23:44 GMT
They didn't overlap. Perlach went there in July 20 Whitehead left in Nov 19. So unclear how their paths would've crossed. If it's Walters curating the core of the coaching team, seems a bit weird, with him maybe just bringing this keeper coach? It's not weird It's what happens when you appoint someone with no clout whatsoever He will have no say over anything The result will be zero respect from the players as they will know he'll go before they will Not happy are you Lordy? Let’s see what transpires before falling into a pit of despair |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 16, 2024 20:24:13 GMT
Norwich have said he can talk to Stoke ,so they don’t value him. No club stands in the way of a coach if they have the opportunity of getting a manager/head coach job. I’d like to think it was a fishing attempt |
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Post by LGH87 on Sept 16, 2024 20:24:21 GMT
A valid point raised earlier on Radio Stoke about Chris Cohen. Appointed over the summer amid something of a fanfare and sacked along with all the other coaches after just five games? I’m gutted he’s gone, really like the sound of him As a coach |
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Post by lordb on Sept 16, 2024 20:25:29 GMT
It's not weird It's what happens when you appoint someone with no clout whatsoever He will have no say over anything The result will be zero respect from the players as they will know he'll go before they will Not happy are you Lordy? Let’s see what transpires before falling into a pit of despair I'd love it if someone can persuade me this is a smart move The saving grace is we can sack him at Xmas and appoint an actual football manager then to keep us up |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 16, 2024 20:25:33 GMT
It's not weird It's what happens when you appoint someone with no clout whatsoever He will have no say over anything The result will be zero respect from the players as they will know he'll go before they will Not happy are you Lordy? Let’s see what transpires before falling into a pit of despair All this werriting over such a shit manager too. 3 good games and it‘s like we sacked Fergie. It’s been hilarious today. |
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Post by mickstupp on Sept 16, 2024 20:25:36 GMT
No one wants us to remain shit, don’t be silly. People just don’t believe there are better, wealthier people out there wanting to own Stoke City. If that was true they’d actually want the issue solving. And there’s only one way of that. So yeah we will remain shite and keep going around in circles. Well done the lot of you. 😀 I think you might belong to an age group of fans who were spoilt a little by a decade of success in the top flight. It’s almost as if you think the club had a divine right to be in the top league getting into cup finals and playing in Europe. We don’t. Look at the history of the club. We are a small/ mid sized club who will go through good times and bad times. Undeniably, this is a poor run, but at some stage things will turn for the better. |
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Post by stokiejoe on Sept 16, 2024 20:26:18 GMT
There’s lots but people don’t want it. They want to remain shit. No one wants us to remain shit, don’t be silly. People just don’t believe there are better, wealthier people out there wanting to own Stoke City. Even if there were we can't take advantage of it because of ffp, to a great extent it doesn't matter who owns us |
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Sept 16, 2024 20:26:19 GMT
Norwich have said he can talk to Stoke ,so they don’t value him. The Norwich lad on radio Stoke earlier said Norwich are aware he wants to try and get a head coach role, and wouldn’t stand in his way if he was approached. That seems more likely to be honest, why would they stop him? He wouldn’t be irreplaceable. |
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Post by a on Sept 16, 2024 20:26:27 GMT
There aren’t any that are clamouring to buy Stoke are there? You’re suggesting the Coates (who would have to agree to this) sell up, someone swoops in and everything is sunshine and rainbows. Sorry to burst your bubble but the real world we live in doesn’t have that option on the table. So in short, no, it’s not going to happen (at least anytime soon). Who knows? None of us. Who thought Ryan Reynolds would want to buy Wrexham? It’s an absolutely awful argument. You cling to the hope if it brings you comfort. Let us know when the contract is signed 😂 |
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Sept 16, 2024 20:27:19 GMT
I feel SS knew he was on the ropes at the start of the season. Maybe appointing Chris was a way to try and help him improve. It didn’t seem to be working so he’s gone as well. They also had a bloke on who interviewed Pelach and had nothing but good things to say about him. Was a good listen. Don't know if you have seen it bud but the interview is actually on page 2 of this thread No missed that. I’ll have a look, cheers. |
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Post by lordb on Sept 16, 2024 20:27:31 GMT
Not happy are you Lordy? Let’s see what transpires before falling into a pit of despair All this werriting over such a shit manager too. 3 good games and it‘s like we sacked Fergie. It’s been hilarious today. I'm not happy with the sacking however it's the prospective appointment which is worrying me I really don't want to watch league 2 football again |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 16, 2024 20:27:35 GMT
If that was true they’d actually want the issue solving. And there’s only one way of that. So yeah we will remain shite and keep going around in circles. Well done the lot of you. 😀 I think you might belong to an age group of fans who were spoilt a little by a decade of success in the top flight. It’s almost as if you think the club had a divine right to be in the top league getting into cup finals and playing in Europe. We don’t. Look at the history of the club. We are a small/ mid sized club who will go through good times and bad times. Undeniably, this is a poor run, but at some stage things will turn for the better. God forbid we expect better. We’ve spent as many seasons in the top flight as the rest? This little old Stoke bollocks is the absolute worst. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 16, 2024 20:28:02 GMT
Not happy are you Lordy? Let’s see what transpires before falling into a pit of despair All this werriting over such a shit manager too. 3 good games and it‘s like we sacked Fergie. It’s been hilarious today. It has. I get why folk like him he seems a nice guy but I personally have seen zero progression from where we were. I think the timing is a bit more hasty than I imagined but couldn’t see it ending well with him. Yet another new start and people have to be hopeful. As I said earlier it’ll be forgotten about in a fortnight and Schumacher won’t be talked about unless the rest of the season is a total catastrophe |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 16, 2024 20:28:20 GMT
All this werriting over such a shit manager too. 3 good games and it‘s like we sacked Fergie. It’s been hilarious today. I'm not happy with the sacking however it's the prospective appointment which is worrying me I really don't want to watch league 2 football again He could be great. Just wait and see. |
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Post by chad on Sept 16, 2024 20:29:42 GMT
Who knows? None of us. Who thought Ryan Reynolds would want to buy Wrexham? It’s an absolutely awful argument. You cling to the hope if it brings you comfort. Let us know when the contract is signed 😂 He hasn’t a clue. Can’t name one single person who would be remotely interested yet keeps banging the same old drum |
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Post by Davef on Sept 16, 2024 20:29:44 GMT
No club stands in the way of a coach if they have the opportunity of getting a manager/head coach job. I’d like to think it was a fishing attempt I doubt it. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 16, 2024 20:30:35 GMT
All this werriting over such a shit manager too. 3 good games and it‘s like we sacked Fergie. It’s been hilarious today. It has. I get why folk like him he seems a nice guy but I personally have seen zero progression from where we were. I think the timing is a bit more hasty than I imagined but couldn’t see it ending well with him. Yet another new start and people have to be hopeful. As I said earlier it’ll be forgotten about in a fortnight and Schumacher won’t be talked about unless the rest of the season is a total catastrophe There’s been none. The team don’t look coached. There’s no patterns of play. There’s no plan. He failed miserably. And it didn’t look like anything changing was close. They’ve taken a gamble. I expect it to remain shit because I just don’t think it will never not be shit with John Coates in charge. |
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Post by mickstupp on Sept 16, 2024 20:30:39 GMT
😀 I think you might belong to an age group of fans who were spoilt a little by a decade of success in the top flight. It’s almost as if you think the club had a divine right to be in the top league getting into cup finals and playing in Europe. We don’t. Look at the history of the club. We are a small/ mid sized club who will go through good times and bad times. Undeniably, this is a poor run, but at some stage things will turn for the better. God forbid we expect better. We’ve spent as many seasons in the top flight as the rest? This little old Stoke bollocks is the absolute worst. You can expect what you want, it won’t alter what actually happens. English football is competitive, and clubs like ours will be forever battling either to go up, or stay up along with around 25 other clubs. It is what it is, I’m sorry. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 16, 2024 20:30:43 GMT
I’d like to think it was a fishing attempt I doubt it. It seems my expertise in the subject may have failed me this time😉 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 16, 2024 20:31:15 GMT
You cling to the hope if it brings you comfort. Let us know when the contract is signed 😂 He hasn’t a clue. Can’t name one single person who would be remotely interested yet keeps banging the same old drum Because it’s a fucking ridiculous notion. Snoop Dogg. Prove me wrong. You can’t. 🤣 |
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Post by lordb on Sept 16, 2024 20:32:42 GMT
I'm not happy with the sacking however it's the prospective appointment which is worrying me I really don't want to watch league 2 football again He could be great. Just wait and see. Based on what? What is on his CV that says he's going to be a competent manager? Is it because he's Catalan? To appoint an absolute rookie based on literally nothing is astonishing |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 16, 2024 20:33:20 GMT
He could be great. Just wait and see. Based on what? What is on his CV that says he's going to be a competent manager? Is it because he's Catalan? To appoint an absolute rookie based on literally nothing is astonishing Lots of clubs do it. Stop werriting. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 16, 2024 20:35:08 GMT
The one thing about this appointment is that if it is a total disaster then Walters will have to resign. I think you’d find he would do the opposite dig in even take a bigger role |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 16, 2024 20:35:23 GMT
Not happy are you Lordy? Let’s see what transpires before falling into a pit of despair All this werriting over such a shit manager too. 3 good games and it‘s like we sacked Fergie. It’s been hilarious today. Fergie just made clubs worse |
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