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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 16, 2024 17:26:42 GMT
Two of my favourite things right there Muff, what a day you must have had Was Lemon Cheesecake, not the cat . Purrfect |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 16, 2024 17:26:53 GMT
He might be shit. He probably will be. But then most people like yourself still won’t call out the real issue at the club despite it smacking us in the face constantly. Because in the real world, what alternative is there? The owners are going nowhere. If you want to lead the protests to oust them, crack on. Probably plenty. |
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Post by dirtclod on Sept 16, 2024 17:26:59 GMT
Stokearoni?
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 16, 2024 17:27:37 GMT
www.eveningnews24.co.uk/sport/24587389.norwich-city-narcis-pelach-prospective-stoke-move-analysed/So much for coaching staff continuity. Arriving at Norwich City, one of Johannes Hoff Thorup's first public messages was his happiness to work with the backroom team already assembled on David Wagner's watch. Alongside him he had new assistant Glen Riddersholm, but supporting the Danish duo were first-team coach Narcis Pelach, set-piece specialist Andrew Hughes and goalkeeping coach Paul Clements. Now, within four months of Thorup's appointment, the likely departures of Pelach and Clements to Stoke City signal the rapid end of that fleeting coaching era. The negatives of those moves for Norwich are clear, with a summer of transition on the pitch compounded by moves off it. If the job of overseeing a totally new project wasn't made hard enough by losing Gabriel Sara, Jonathan Rowe and Adam Idah, three new faces off it will do the trick. Perhaps those are just the quirks of a transitional period, but in any case Thorup and his players have had to continually adjust since the start of pre-season. That's why campaigns like this one must not be underestimated in their difficulty. In many ways the long-term goal highlights why the short-term situation is such a challenge: the aim is strength and stability over a number of years, but it's been all change in just a few months. But that's not the only reason why Pelach's prospective appointment as Stoke boss is bad news in Norfolk. Sporting director Ben Knapper will have secured compensation, but he'll have lost a coach who's highly regarded across the game. The excitement around his 2023 arrival revealed as much. The CV and standing he brought to Colney in May that year was encouraging, but it was the subsequent interview with the Pink Un, conducted in the Carrow Road media lounge four months later, that had fans animated by his capture. For nearly 45 minutes he spoke intelligently and knowledgably about his footballing views, his short-lived playing days and his aspirations for the future. He referenced a desire to be a Premier League assistant coach, which hasn't come to fruition, and a plan to become a head coach again, which looks like it will be. Maybe they were only words, but outside the internal bubble that's all there really is from a backroom team member. Within the walls he lived up to the billing, however, and impressed many of those he came across. He was well liked by players, appreciated by bosses and helpful to peers. Add to that his chameleonic adaptation to different styles and it's easy to see why he was kept around when Wagner departed. At various times he worked on analysis, exploiting opposition, defensive improvement and attacking work. Within 16 months of being appointed he was a key cog in the yellow and green system. But, as is the case with players like Sara, Rowe and Idah, all good things come to an end, and often positives go with that. There's the fact, for example, that a coach more in the Thorup mould can be appointed, someone more specifically wedded to his and Knapper's principles. As great an ally as Riddersholm is, the more proponents of the new style in the building the better. That process has already begun with Nick Stanley, the man straddling set-pieces and first-team coaching after Hughes' summer move to Leicester. City hope to move with similar speed in their bid to replace Pelach, and if completed with similar accuracy they'll move towards the unified backroom setup they desire. It won't be easy though. Combine this latest development with the weekend's 1-0 loss at Swansea, and the downsides of change are becoming clearer to supporters. Like at the start of Daniel Farke's tenure in 2017, the regular pattern of adaptation and departure will continue until the transition phase is complete. But that isn't necessarily a bad thing, and change, after all, is what many of those fans wanted. Losing Pelach is undoubtedly a blow, but it continues the process towards Thorup's end product.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 16, 2024 17:28:18 GMT
He might be shit. He probably will be. But then most people like yourself still won’t call out the real issue at the club despite it smacking us in the face constantly. You really are pathetic calling Schuey a coward, the guy played the kids and his principle is attacking football, nobody knows what happened in the background but to call him out like that...grow up you fucking imbecile. He didn’t play the attacking football he said he would. He shat himself at the first sign. He should have been sacked then. Awful manager for us. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 16, 2024 17:28:32 GMT
We’re getting really good at hiding big news I’ve noticed. This must have been coming for a while
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Post by Roger Everyone on Sept 16, 2024 17:28:38 GMT
How many weeks before you're calling this guy names as well? I'll give it a month. He might be shit. He probably will be. But then most people like yourself still won’t call out the real issue at the club despite it smacking us in the face constantly. The pies.. |
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Post by scfcadams on Sept 16, 2024 17:30:23 GMT
If this bloke is more arsed about the opposition and a serial tinkerer then he can piss off already. Sick of seeing us set up to counteract other teams just bomb forward and attack this league is wank. If you actually watch his interview he says the complete opposite of that. The team won’t change how they play based on the opposition. The clip you’ve seen is about him talking about his very specific role where he gave opposition briefings for the manager. But don’t let facts get in the way of blind rage |
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Post by vamborools on Sept 16, 2024 17:31:00 GMT
Well if he comes I hope he brings that Andrew Hughes with him because by God we need a set piece specialist
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2024 17:31:08 GMT
Fuck it, i'm in for this Spanish guy now. My approach to following stoke has been the same as the late, great, Hunter S Thompson's approach to living.
“Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!”
Go'arn Stoke.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 16, 2024 17:32:14 GMT
Fuck it, i'm in for this Spanish guy now. My approach to following stoke has been the same as the late, great, Hunter S Thompson's approach to living. “Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!” Go'arn Stoke. Yay!....Lets get back to a bit of Boskamp! |
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Post by pieofpeter on Sept 16, 2024 17:34:08 GMT
Don't know what to think of this since finding out this morning...
I'd have kept him on inconsistent performances will happen with a young squad.
Think he would have it right eventually
Smells of a fall out forling out with JW.
At least we know who ia running the show now.
I'll give the guy a chance but this doesn't feel like my club any more and was begining t get that feeling back.has felt rotten for a long time.
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Sept 16, 2024 17:34:23 GMT
Never heard of him. Sack him quick, before he joins.
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Post by chad on Sept 16, 2024 17:35:57 GMT
Because in the real world, what alternative is there? The owners are going nowhere. If you want to lead the protests to oust them, crack on. Probably plenty. Probably not. If we make the Premier League you might entice the odd sheikh In the Championship you are not getting anything better than the Coares family |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Sept 16, 2024 17:36:41 GMT
www.eveningnews24.co.uk/sport/24587389.norwich-city-narcis-pelach-prospective-stoke-move-analysed/So much for coaching staff continuity. Arriving at Norwich City, one of Johannes Hoff Thorup's first public messages was his happiness to work with the backroom team already assembled on David Wagner's watch. Alongside him he had new assistant Glen Riddersholm, but supporting the Danish duo were first-team coach Narcis Pelach, set-piece specialist Andrew Hughes and goalkeeping coach Paul Clements. Now, within four months of Thorup's appointment, the likely departures of Pelach and Clements to Stoke City signal the rapid end of that fleeting coaching era. The negatives of those moves for Norwich are clear, with a summer of transition on the pitch compounded by moves off it. If the job of overseeing a totally new project wasn't made hard enough by losing Gabriel Sara, Jonathan Rowe and Adam Idah, three new faces off it will do the trick. Perhaps those are just the quirks of a transitional period, but in any case Thorup and his players have had to continually adjust since the start of pre-season. That's why campaigns like this one must not be underestimated in their difficulty. In many ways the long-term goal highlights why the short-term situation is such a challenge: the aim is strength and stability over a number of years, but it's been all change in just a few months. But that's not the only reason why Pelach's prospective appointment as Stoke boss is bad news in Norfolk. Sporting director Ben Knapper will have secured compensation, but he'll have lost a coach who's highly regarded across the game. The excitement around his 2023 arrival revealed as much. The CV and standing he brought to Colney in May that year was encouraging, but it was the subsequent interview with the Pink Un, conducted in the Carrow Road media lounge four months later, that had fans animated by his capture. For nearly 45 minutes he spoke intelligently and knowledgably about his footballing views, his short-lived playing days and his aspirations for the future. He referenced a desire to be a Premier League assistant coach, which hasn't come to fruition, and a plan to become a head coach again, which looks like it will be. Maybe they were only words, but outside the internal bubble that's all there really is from a backroom team member. Within the walls he lived up to the billing, however, and impressed many of those he came across. He was well liked by players, appreciated by bosses and helpful to peers. Add to that his chameleonic adaptation to different styles and it's easy to see why he was kept around when Wagner departed. At various times he worked on analysis, exploiting opposition, defensive improvement and attacking work. Within 16 months of being appointed he was a key cog in the yellow and green system. But, as is the case with players like Sara, Rowe and Idah, all good things come to an end, and often positives go with that. There's the fact, for example, that a coach more in the Thorup mould can be appointed, someone more specifically wedded to his and Knapper's principles. As great an ally as Riddersholm is, the more proponents of the new style in the building the better. That process has already begun with Nick Stanley, the man straddling set-pieces and first-team coaching after Hughes' summer move to Leicester. City hope to move with similar speed in their bid to replace Pelach, and if completed with similar accuracy they'll move towards the unified backroom setup they desire. It won't be easy though. Combine this latest development with the weekend's 1-0 loss at Swansea, and the downsides of change are becoming clearer to supporters. Like at the start of Daniel Farke's tenure in 2017, the regular pattern of adaptation and departure will continue until the transition phase is complete. But that isn't necessarily a bad thing, and change, after all, is what many of those fans wanted. Losing Pelach is undoubtedly a blow, but it continues the process towards Thorup's end product. Sounds encouraging that. |
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 16, 2024 17:37:02 GMT
Don't know what to think of this since finding out this morning... I'd have kept him on inconsistent performances will happen with a young squad. Think he would have it right eventually Smells of a fall out forling out with JW. At least we know who ia running the show now. I'll give the guy a chance but this doesn't feel like my club any more and was begining t get that feeling back.has felt rotten for a long time. But we bought Walters to actually control these kind of things. What was the point otherwise? Coates family cant and shouldn't do it. Why does this kind of structure make it feel less 'your club'? |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 16, 2024 17:37:04 GMT
I freely admit I have never heard of him but on what basis has he absolutely no credentials? He played in the 4th tier of Spanish football, retired at 25, coached in Spain with a B side and at Huddersfield, seems to have been 'partied company with' a few times as the main man got sacked, then rocked up at Norwich last season. Being slightly facetious mate but Mourinho played to a shite standard, retired at 24 and spent 10 years coaching before moving into management. And before anyone loses their shit I’m not for one second comparing the two it’s just that being a crap player with no management experience doesn’t always preclude you from being a success. |
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Post by chad on Sept 16, 2024 17:37:28 GMT
Chicho had a dream
To build a football team …………………
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 16, 2024 17:39:09 GMT
He played in the 4th tier of Spanish football, retired at 25, coached in Spain with a B side and at Huddersfield, seems to have been 'partied company with' a few times as the main man got sacked, then rocked up at Norwich last season. Being slightly facetious mate but Mourinho played to a shite standard, retired at 24 and spent 10 years coaching before moving into management. And before anyone loses their shit I’m not for one second comparing the two it’s just that being a crap player with no management experience doesn’t always preclude you from being a success. Why would you need to be a decent player to manage? It's an outdated concept. |
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Post by PottersBrim on Sept 16, 2024 17:40:31 GMT
You really are pathetic calling Schuey a coward, the guy played the kids and his principle is attacking football, nobody knows what happened in the background but to call him out like that...grow up you fucking imbecile. He didn’t play the attacking football he said he would. He shat himself at the first sign. He should have been sacked then. Awful manager for us. Stats say he's the best manager we've had in 15 years. Completely normal for you though Bayern, to call our manager a coward and many of our players cunts. Spineless keyboard warrior as always. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 16, 2024 17:45:34 GMT
Probably not. If we make the Premier League you might entice the odd sheikh In the Championship you are not getting anything better than the Coares family That’s not based in any form of reality. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 16, 2024 17:46:52 GMT
He didn’t play the attacking football he said he would. He shat himself at the first sign. He should have been sacked then. Awful manager for us. Stats say he's the best manager we've had in 15 years. Completely normal for you though Bayern, to call our manager a coward and many of our players cunts. Spineless keyboard warrior as always. 🤣🤣we’ve had 2 good managers in 15 years and Schumacher wasn’t one of them. If they stopped being said words then there’d be no need for it 🤷♂️ |
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Post by PottersBrim on Sept 16, 2024 17:47:42 GMT
Stats say he's the best manager we've had in 15 years. Completely normal for you though Bayern, to call our manager a coward and many of our players cunts. Spineless keyboard warrior as always. 🤣🤣we’ve had 2 good managers in 15 years and Schumacher wasn’t one of them. If they stopped being said words then there’d be no need for it 🤷♂️ Who are the two we've had better? |
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Post by gingerninja on Sept 16, 2024 17:47:54 GMT
His backroom staff will be interesting, hope we don't lumber him with Shawcross and Morris.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 16, 2024 17:49:31 GMT
🤣🤣we’ve had 2 good managers in 15 years and Schumacher wasn’t one of them. If they stopped being said words then there’d be no need for it 🤷♂️ Who are the two we've had better? Pulis and Hughes. The rest have been shite. |
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Post by smallthorner on Sept 16, 2024 17:51:42 GMT
As we type Pelach is sharing a nice bottle of Rioja and some chorizo and prawn tapas with SJW and JC at the Dog and Duck.
Chicho's opening gambit is that he spent two days with Pep couple years ago and wants to emulate the achievements of his hero.
Signed, sealed and delivered.
4 year contract on the table.
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 16, 2024 17:53:15 GMT
I wonder if SJW will have had a past connection with the new replacement manager? Probably. We used to be held up as a role model for how clubs are run well. The decline is alarming and continuing. For what it’s worth, on the face of it the club has not exactly covered itself in glory. Only a few knew what went on and the rest of us can only guess. I hope SS goes on to have a cracking career - always seemed decent to me. To me we were known as a club who pissed about sacking managers too late |
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Post by PottersBrim on Sept 16, 2024 17:54:16 GMT
Who are the two we've had better? Pulis and Hughes. The rest have been shite. That's something at least. Genuinely thought O'Neill was going to be one of the two. |
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Sept 16, 2024 17:56:47 GMT
If this bloke is more arsed about the opposition and a serial tinkerer then he can piss off already. Sick of seeing us set up to counteract other teams just bomb forward and attack this league is wank. If you actually watch his interview he says the complete opposite of that. The team won’t change how they play based on the opposition. The clip you’ve seen is about him talking about his very specific role where he gave opposition briefings for the manager. But don’t let facts get in the way of blind rage I mean I hope he doesn’t end up like that is what I’m saying. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 16, 2024 17:58:00 GMT
His backroom staff will be interesting, hope we don't lumber him with Shawcross and Morris. Why? Do you know something the rest of us don’t about those two? |
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