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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 16, 2024 15:48:36 GMT
Given Walters' background, here's two possibilities from left-field.... Robbie Keane and Damian Duff. Keane has just left his job in Israel, having just won the domestic league. He was, however, coming under increasing pressure because of the conflict in the region. Duff has done an an amazing job in getting Shelbourne to the top of the League of Ireland. Yes, it's not a great standard, but he has made a huge impact in a very short time. He's going to be picked up at some point; why not by us??? I'd really like Damian Duff to be fair, watch a bit of that League and he's done a good job. The standard doesn't really matter, you've still got to make things work and he clearly has. It's a really competitive league. I think Potter showed that when he came from Sweden. |
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Post by smiler_andy on Sept 16, 2024 15:48:54 GMT
As Pete Smith mentioned, would he be our 2nd youngest manager, just older than Waddington when he took over, and just a bit younger than Mick Mills? Hopefully he's more like Waddington. Mills!!! shudder/ cold sweat/dark thoughts. Quickly think of something else before deep despair creeps in. Bloody hell at least mid table Mick had us finishing in the top half most of the time. The standard of the football and the league finishes were a lot better than what we've endured over the last few years. Right now I'd take that as a step forward  Mick Mills had 213 games as a manager with a win rate of just over 33% which was not fantastic. Michael O'Neil win rate from 143 games was over 38% Lately a manager at Stoke only gets 50 games if he is lucky. Only MON of our last 6 managers has had a full season at the club. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Millsen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_O%27Neill_(footballer) |
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Post by shrewspotter on Sept 16, 2024 15:56:14 GMT
Well it looks like it will be this guy Pelach ( pronounced Pellack btw) so we will need to get behind him
Personally I liked Schumacher, I'm unsure the resurgence last season was down to him or more SJW though, I'm not really sure we were going forward at the rate SJW demands
Something must have happened with Schumacher, i really can't see them booting him after our start.
Just hope Pelach is going to get us going, we will play good football, score plenty of goals and start getting results.
In 2 weeks time we could have 2 wins plus the EFL and all of a sudden it looks a masterstroke, of course flip side is we lose all 3, Schuey turns up somewhere and we kick ourselves.
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Post by PottersBrim on Sept 16, 2024 15:56:23 GMT
Stoke City Manager Win Rates since 2006:
Schumacher: 40.63%
Alex Neill: 33.33%
Michael O'Neill 38.46%
Mad Nath: 15.79%
Gary Rowett: 31.03%
Paul Lamber 13.30%
Mark Hughes: 35.50%
Tony Pulis: 36.64%
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Post by emretezzy on Sept 16, 2024 15:57:06 GMT
Stoke City Manager Win Rates since 2006: Schumacher: 40.63% Alex Neill: 33.33% Michael O'Neill 38.46% Mad Nath: 15.79% Gary Rowett: 31.03% Paul Lamber 13.30% Mark Hughes: 35.50% Tony Pulis: 36.64% He should be taking the training today 100%. |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Sept 16, 2024 15:59:53 GMT
Has anyone mentioned yet that he may be Pep Guardiolas illegitimate love child ! Indeed that's what he looks like and why the decision looks so immature. Hes spanish he looks like Guardiolo. Ok lets get him in. Its so destined to fail we all know it |
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Post by apb1 on Sept 16, 2024 16:01:02 GMT
Stoke City Manager Win Rates since 2006: Schumacher: 40.63% Alex Neill: 33.33% Michael O'Neill 38.46% Mad Nath: 15.79% Gary Rowett: 31.03% Paul Lamber 13.30% Mark Hughes: 35.50% Tony Pulis: 36.64% Win rates is an odd one to have become the standard metric for managerial success. I reckon PPG might be better measure and would likely push O'Neill up a bit (plus Pulis maybe). |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Sept 16, 2024 16:01:21 GMT
Stoke City Manager Win Rates since 2006: Schumacher: 40.63% Alex Neill: 33.33% Michael O'Neill 38.46% Mad Nath: 15.79% Gary Rowett: 31.03% Paul Lamber 13.30% Mark Hughes: 35.50% Tony Pulis: 36.64% Fucking Paul Lambert!!!! Still makes me angry |
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Post by Trouserdog on Sept 16, 2024 16:01:53 GMT
Why? Schumacher was awful. Hopefully this bloke will stick to his principles unlike that coward. How many weeks before you're calling this guy names as well? I'll give it a month. |
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Post by bertiestan on Sept 16, 2024 16:02:47 GMT
A lots changed since then mate🔴⚪️ MON left a nice cushy number as well Another daft cliche that no manager would want to come here when of course they do. The £ helps of course That was fucking ages ago🤦🏼♂️🔴⚪️ |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 16, 2024 16:03:07 GMT
Why? Schumacher was awful. Hopefully this bloke will stick to his principles unlike that coward. How many weeks before you're calling this guy names as well? I'll give it a month. Anything for attention |
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Sept 16, 2024 16:04:43 GMT
Let’s face it, probability says the chances are they’ll be shite like the last six or will it be time for a good un?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 16, 2024 16:07:37 GMT
Stoke City Manager Win Rates since 2006: Schumacher: 40.63% Alex Neill: 33.33% Michael O'Neill 38.46% Mad Nath: 15.79% Gary Rowett: 31.03% Paul Lamber 13.30% Mark Hughes: 35.50% Tony Pulis: 36.64% Win rates is an odd one to have become the standard metric for managerial success. I reckon PPG might be better measure and would likely push O'Neill up a bit (plus Pulis maybe). SS 1.41 AN 1.21 MON 1.40 NJ 0.87 GR 1.34 (Championship only) |
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Post by ethers26 on Sept 16, 2024 16:08:03 GMT
Stoke City Manager Win Rates since 2006: Schumacher: 40.63% Alex Neill: 33.33% Michael O'Neill 38.46% Mad Nath: 15.79% Gary Rowett: 31.03% Paul Lamber 13.30% Mark Hughes: 35.50% Tony Pulis: 36.64% Wow, and I always thought it was harsh on MON! What % typically gets teams promoted out of interest? |
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Post by PottersBrim on Sept 16, 2024 16:10:16 GMT
Stoke City Manager Win Rates since 2006: Schumacher: 40.63% Alex Neill: 33.33% Michael O'Neill 38.46% Mad Nath: 15.79% Gary Rowett: 31.03% Paul Lamber 13.30% Mark Hughes: 35.50% Tony Pulis: 36.64% Win rates is an odd one to have become the standard metric for managerial success. I reckon PPG might be better measure and would likely push O'Neill up a bit (plus Pulis maybe). Agreed, PPG below: Schumacher: 1.41 Alex Neill: 1.21 Michael O'Neill 1.40 Mad Nath: 0.87 Gary Rowett: 1.34 Paul Lambert: 0.87 Mark Hughes: 1.31 Tony Pulis: 1.39 |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 16, 2024 16:10:41 GMT
Stoke City Manager Win Rates since 2006: Schumacher: 40.63% Alex Neill: 33.33% Michael O'Neill 38.46% Mad Nath: 15.79% Gary Rowett: 31.03% Paul Lamber 13.30% Mark Hughes: 35.50% Tony Pulis: 36.64% Wow, and I always thought it was harsh on MON! What % typically gets teams promoted out of interest? Around 90 pts gets you automatic promotion, between 70-75 pts gets you into the play offs...... |
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Post by Robo10 on Sept 16, 2024 16:12:05 GMT
Be interesting to rejig those stats with win/draw/loss %
SS ability to get a draw was poor
MoN setup (after the initial exciting period!) not to lose towards the end
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Post by dirtclod on Sept 16, 2024 16:12:24 GMT
Actually find it somewhat encouraging that he's a Girona boy, but still reeling from this sacking.
Has a UFO landed on the center cirtle yet?
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 16, 2024 16:14:08 GMT
I've agitated for a continental manager for years but although this would tick that box on one level, I can't help thinking that here we go again trying to poach a rivals manager - and it ALWAYS ALWAYS fails - Rowett, Jones, Neil and Schuey and now another potentially....... You do realise he isn't a rivals manager right? Yeh you're right fellah - TBF I'd never heard of him and when I saw the thread assumed he was in charge - as he's a rivals head coach, so same sort of fears still apply I guess - and probably more so and I do not know why - yet again - we are going for a completely untried / untested / speculative appointment - we never learn it seems. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 16, 2024 16:16:49 GMT
Actually find it somewhat encouraging that he's a Girona boy, but still reeling from this sacking. Has a UFO landed on the center cirtle yet? Was a report it came looking for intelligent life, saw Badger and buggered off back to the planet Phobos |
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 16, 2024 16:17:03 GMT
Just league games. Ppg seems to be 1.34. Still seems very harsh on results. Just got the sense he and Walters weren't aligned  |
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Post by andromeda on Sept 16, 2024 16:17:03 GMT
Sacking Schumacher was a surprising decision and looks short sighted five games into the season. However, replacing him with someone with no prior management experience or even top level playing experience just looks absolutely bat-shit crazy. 🤪
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Post by cheadlepotter on Sept 16, 2024 16:19:19 GMT
Be interesting to rejig those stats with win/draw/loss % SS ability to get a draw was poor MoN setup (after the initial exciting period!) not to lose towards the end I don’t mind a manager who doesn’t get stacks of draws. More fans would’ve been happy if we’d drawn our first two games, and draws in our last two (both away) would probably have been acceptable. That’s 4pts, we actually got 6 from those games. |
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Post by dirtclod on Sept 16, 2024 16:20:30 GMT
Actually find it somewhat encouraging that he's a Girona boy, but still reeling from this sacking. Has a UFO landed on the center cirtle yet? Was a report it came looking for intelligent life, saw Badger and buggered off back to the planet Phobos Any chance of getting some steel in midfield out of Phobos this year? (Now that we have the connection) |
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 16, 2024 16:20:48 GMT
uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/stoke-set-sights-norwich-coach-160100277.htmlStoke City are set to hold talks with Norwich coach Narcis Pelach after the surprise dismissal of Steven Schumacher. Pelach, 36, will be interviewed by Stoke on Monday night and is understood to be the front-runner to take over at the Championship club. The Spaniard is currently working as a first-team coach under Norwich’s Johannes Hoff Thorup but has already established an impressive reputation. Pelach formerly worked under the highly regarded Carlos Corberán at Huddersfield and is finalising his Pro Licence course. Paul Clements, Norwich’s goalkeeping coach, is expected to make the move to Stoke if talks with Pelach are successful. Norwich granted Stoke permission to hold talks after an official approach was made shortly after the confirmation of Schumacher’s exit. Schumacher’s reign was ended on Monday morning after the weekend defeat at Oxford, with the decision stunning many of the club’s supporters. The former Plymouth Argyle manager had ended last season impressively and won two of his five league games this term. Stoke have spent significant funds on rebuilding the squad over the summer, with Schumacher also moving a number of high earners out of the club. Sporting director Jon Walters said: “My role as sporting director is to make tough decisions that serve the long-term interests of Stoke City. “After ongoing discussions with [chairman] John Coates, we feel the time is right for a change in direction to bring success to the club. “We have a young, dynamic squad that is eager to develop and a clear vision of how to achieve success, and we hope to announce a new appointment shortly. We will need the fans, staff and players united in support to achieve our goals. “As always in football, these decisions are difficult, and we wish Steven and his staff all the best for the future.”
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Sept 16, 2024 16:22:19 GMT
Win rates is an odd one to have become the standard metric for managerial success. I reckon PPG might be better measure and would likely push O'Neill up a bit (plus Pulis maybe). SS 1.41 AN 1.21 MON 1.40 NJ 0.87 GR 1.34 (Championship only) Exactly Championship ONLY you can't compare the Championship with the Prem. Also something to add, Rowett and Jones should have done better with the cash they wasted!!!! All things considered, MON did a good job and after the shit show overall, Schuey not done that bad. |
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Post by Los Alfareros on Sept 16, 2024 16:23:19 GMT
Win rates is an odd one to have become the standard metric for managerial success. I reckon PPG might be better measure and would likely push O'Neill up a bit (plus Pulis maybe). Agreed, PPG below: Schumacher: 1.41 Alex Neill: 1.21 Michael O'Neill 1.40 Mad Nath: 0.87 Gary Rowett: 1.34 Paul Lambert: 0.87 Mark Hughes: 1.31 Tony Pulis: 1.39 Puts things into perspective that, and for an outsider would look harsh on Shuey? 1.63 PPG would get 75 points so with the new players "gelling" would he have been able to achieve that this season?? What is certain though, if the new fella does not work out there will be a lot of shit hitting many a fan. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 16, 2024 16:25:20 GMT
The big test for the new manager is to get Lyndon Gooch playing up front and banging 25 a season in
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Post by matelot1996 on Sept 16, 2024 16:28:31 GMT
I now genuinely believe this club is run by a clown.
We should start asking about the business / footballing credentials of John Coates not those of the endless influx of managers.
I would love to have heard the conversation that lead to the persuit of this guy.
So JC what’s the plan?
British Managers are not working for us SJW so we need a Spanish manager?
Who?
Don’t know mate (reading through Wikipedia to find someone suitable) ?
10 mins later
That Norwich Guy is Spanish.
is he any good?
Fuck Knows, let’s give him a 3 year contract and find out.
Sweet John. Sweet.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 16, 2024 16:32:02 GMT
Thanks Frase
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