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Post by flea79 on Sept 16, 2024 14:40:11 GMT
Either way, McKenna had never managed a club had he? that was my first thought too but if it does happen it represents a complete 180 away from the method used before of managers and that is potentially exciting, i did think that about Nathan God Willing Jones though so go figure |
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Post by ibby on Sept 16, 2024 14:40:19 GMT
Bemused by this this manager. God help Stoke. Other cheap option lined up  |
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 16, 2024 14:40:50 GMT
I'd be very surprised if he's offered the job after the owners have seen the reaction on here. In my opinion the owners would be wise to do the exact opposite of what is said on here......almost every time. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 16, 2024 14:41:09 GMT
To be fair most people had never really heard of Maresca but that went OK for Leicester and now we have young intelligent footballers instead of people on their last payday maybe we will trend upwards for a change was coaching at Man City first team & had a decent playing career we are appointing a coach < not the manager, not the head coach, just a coach from Norwich who has not had a decent playing career & has previously managed Girona's reserves & a Spanish 4th tier side Carlos Corberán was an interim manager in Cyprus for half a dozen games and then had a short spell in the Greek 2nd division before moving to Leeds u-23's and then Huddersfield. He was rejected from Valencia and barely kicked a ball in his playing career..... |
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 16, 2024 14:42:09 GMT
I'd be very surprised if he's offered the job after the owners have seen the reaction on here. In my opinion the owners would be wise to do the exact opposite of what is said on here......almost every time. What if they read this though |
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Post by Pottersfan on Sept 16, 2024 14:42:23 GMT
Bemused by this this manager. God help Stoke. Other cheap option lined up Yeah cause we do things on the cheap 🙄 |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 16, 2024 14:42:55 GMT
We’re not an attractive project for any manager/coach anymore with any kind of credentials …the biggest pull for us was our owners which seems to have gone to shit…we’ve hired n fired like Watford🔴⚪️ Simply not true as our previous 2 managers left good jobs and teams above us to join us Neil joined us (ironically) because Stoke offered him a God manager role and Sunderland wanted a Head Coach. Schumacher had little experience in the Championship and thought we were a better prospect than Plymouth. Yes they are the sort of people we can attract but what people are talking about are sought after proven coaches at the top of their game and there is no way we are viewed as a good career move. |
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 16, 2024 14:46:21 GMT
Why do you dislike Walter’s so much and jump to these conclusions as if anyone knows what has gone on. JW cares about the club and has its best interests at heart, also his reputation on the line. Fans used to complain when we let a manager stay too long now they have made a quick decision they are getting blasted for that. Now I’m not a massive fan of jc but at least they have acted now Why do you jump to the conclusion that he cares about the club? A more cynical view might be that he saw Jon Coates coming a mile away and spied an easy avenue to power and influence (not to mention wonga) that he hadn’t really earned We’ll put it this way he wouldn’t want to put his job and reputation on the line. No i don’t know for definite but would be very surprised. Why are people jumping to conclusions that it’s jws fault when no one knows 🤷♀️ |
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Post by scfcwebby on Sept 16, 2024 14:46:57 GMT
Bemused by this this manager. God help Stoke. Other cheap option lined up You know fuck all so all is good |
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 16, 2024 14:47:17 GMT
Bemused by this this manager. God help Stoke. Other cheap option lined up Yeah cause we do things on the cheap 🙄 I would bet that we have spent more money on managers than any other club in this Division. Failed managers have had huge pay days on leaving this club and that's just one reason why it will be a job that most managers would want. |
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Post by mamathestriker on Sept 16, 2024 14:47:30 GMT
I'd be very surprised if he's offered the job after the owners have seen the reaction on here. In my opinion the owners would be wise to do the exact opposite of what is said on here......almost every time. Is that your opinion, or have you heard something? |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 16, 2024 14:47:58 GMT
Simply not true as our previous 2 managers left good jobs and teams above us to join us Neil joined us (ironically) because Stoke offered him a God manager role and Sunderland wanted a Head Coach. Schumacher had little experience in the Championship and thought we were a better prospect than Plymouth. Yes they are the sort of people we can attract but what people are talking about are sought after proven coaches at the top of their game and there is no way we are viewed as a good career move. Only he knows why he joined us. Fact is, he did and debunks the comment that no one would want the job |
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Post by philb on Sept 16, 2024 14:48:12 GMT
I've said it on here before and I'll say it again, it's doesn't matter who we appoint as manager there are no guarantees. If Pelach is appointed, he might/ might not be a success nobody on here knows what the outcome will be . Exactly. Every manager we’ve had in the modern era has had people who’ve said it’s a good appointment/bad appointment when they first come here. You could bring Moyes, Allardyce, Corboran, and even Potter here and there’s no guarantee they’d be a success. Everything has to fall in place for these things to happen, like it did in the Pulis era. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 16, 2024 14:48:26 GMT
this is an absurd appointment that was my first thought too but if it does happen it represents a complete 180 away from the method used before of managers and that is potentially exciting, i did think that about Nathan God Willing Jones though so go figure The difference now is the role is completely different. The job at the time was just way too big for Jones (and arguably too big for anyone to do effectively) and now it's trimmed down and focused on coaching the first team. It's possible Jones might have made a better fist of it if the club was structured as it is now and he just had to focus on coaching. |
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 16, 2024 14:48:33 GMT
I've agitated for a continental manager for years but although this would tick that box on one level, I can't help thinking that here we go again trying to poach a rivals manager - and it ALWAYS ALWAYS fails - Rowett, Jones, Neil and Schuey and now another potentially.......
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 16, 2024 14:48:40 GMT
Yeah cause we do things on the cheap 🙄 I would bet that we have spent more money on managers than any other club in this Division. Failed managers have had huge pay days on leaving this club and that's just one reason why it will be a job that most managers would want. I would guess Leeds |
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Post by emretezzy on Sept 16, 2024 14:48:50 GMT
It's just been the international break. If you wanted to sack him, you'd have done that at the start and give the manager 2 weeks. Even better gone in the summer of you didn't fancy him. They've fallen out. I hope that Schumacher stuck to his guns, told him he's manager and roundly told him to fuck off. He come across as a man of his word and I reckon that's why he's gone. He wouldn't play to Walters tune. Why do you dislike Walter’s so much and jump to these conclusions as if anyone knows what has gone on. JW cares about the club and has its best interests at heart, also his reputation on the line. Fans used to complain when we let a manager stay too long now they have made a quick decision they are getting blasted for that. Now I’m not a massive fan of jc but at least they have acted now I don't think he's done anything to deserve the level of influence he has. I think he undid a lot of the good progress we made off the pitch. I dislike how he wants to be the poster boy of the club, how often did you ever see David Dein or David Gill giving interviews. Personally I think it should be a private, dignified powerful position. He runs us like a Vanity YouTube Channel. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 16, 2024 14:49:42 GMT
Bemused by this this manager. God help Stoke. Other cheap option lined up Yeah cause we do things on the cheap 🙄 You mean the large compensation we must have paid for the last 3? |
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 16, 2024 14:50:03 GMT
I would bet that we have spent more money on managers than any other club in this Division. Failed managers have had huge pay days on leaving this club and that's just one reason why it will be a job that most managers would want. I would guess Leeds Possibly. We are right up there though don't you think? |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 16, 2024 14:50:42 GMT
Bemused by this this manager. God help Stoke. Other cheap option lined up Who was the last cheap manager? Please tell |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 16, 2024 14:50:55 GMT
Neil joined us (ironically) because Stoke offered him a God manager role and Sunderland wanted a Head Coach. Schumacher had little experience in the Championship and thought we were a better prospect than Plymouth. Yes they are the sort of people we can attract but what people are talking about are sought after proven coaches at the top of their game and there is no way we are viewed as a good career move. Only he knows why he joined us. Fact is, he did and debunks the comment that no one would want the job No one is saying nobody wants the job. They are saying that the highly sought after Head Coaches at the top of their game want the job. Neil and Schumacher don't fall into that category. |
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Post by philb on Sept 16, 2024 14:51:49 GMT
Why do you dislike Walter’s so much and jump to these conclusions as if anyone knows what has gone on. JW cares about the club and has its best interests at heart, also his reputation on the line. Fans used to complain when we let a manager stay too long now they have made a quick decision they are getting blasted for that. Now I’m not a massive fan of jc but at least they have acted now I don't think he's done anything to deserve the level of influence he has. I think he undid a lot of the good progress we made off the pitch. I dislike how he wants to be the poster boy of the club, how often did you ever see David Dein or David Gill giving interviews. Personally I think it should be a private, dignified powerful position. He runs us like a Vanity YouTube Channel. You moan about him giving interviews but then if we never heard from him some would say why do they not come out and speak about things about the club. They can’t win can they 🤷♂️ |
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Post by mickstupp on Sept 16, 2024 14:51:56 GMT
I've agitated for a continental manager for years but although this would tick that box on one level, I can't help thinking that here we go again trying to poach a rivals manager - and it ALWAYS ALWAYS fails - Rowett, Jones, Neil and Schuey and now another potentially....... Seems like it always fails regardless, but for balance we did also take Macari and Pulis from other clubs. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 16, 2024 14:52:07 GMT
Only he knows why he joined us. Fact is, he did and debunks the comment that no one would want the job No one is saying nobody wants the job. They are saying that the highly sought after Head Coaches at the top of their game want the job. Neil and Schumacher don't fall into that category. Do highly sought coaches at the top of their game want any Championship job? |
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 16, 2024 14:52:34 GMT
I was impressed with the interview. I've never comes across a good manager who isn't impressive to listen to. The best ones give you the impression they could be good at anything they turned their hands to. It isn't a guarantee, but at least he clears that bar. That's what worries me with Lee Carsley. He and Darren Moore are the least impressive speakers I've seen in football management for a while. He won't be doing any interviews FM. Walters is the poster-boy. Never known anyone like the sound of their own voice as much as him, he loves a camera. Bla bla bla |
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Post by pulismaskreplica on Sept 16, 2024 14:54:34 GMT
It's just been the international break. If you wanted to sack him, you'd have done that at the start and give the manager 2 weeks. Even better gone in the summer of you didn't fancy him. They've fallen out. I hope that Schumacher stuck to his guns, told him he's manager and roundly told him to fuck off. He come across as a man of his word and I reckon that's why he's gone. He wouldn't play to Walters tune. Why do you dislike Walter’s so much and jump to these conclusions as if anyone knows what has gone on. JW cares about the club and has its best interests at heart, also his reputation on the line. Fans used to complain when we let a manager stay too long now they have made a quick decision they are getting blasted for that. Now I’m not a massive fan of jc but at least they have acted now They didn’t need to act now though did they?? The season is only 5 games in. If he was terrible and we were in the bottom 3 in Nov/Dec then ‘swift’ action would be applauded but it’s nowhere near that and Schumacher imo has actually been doing a steady job and is the best manager we’ve had since relegation |
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 16, 2024 14:54:35 GMT
I don't think he's done anything to deserve the level of influence he has. I think he undid a lot of the good progress we made off the pitch. I dislike how he wants to be the poster boy of the club, how often did you ever see David Dein or David Gill giving interviews. Personally I think it should be a private, dignified powerful position. He runs us like a Vanity YouTube Channel. You moan about him giving interviews but then if we never heard from him some would say why do they not come out and speak about things about the club. They can’t win can they 🤷♂️ Absolutely, serial moaners on here honestly! We had years of moaning about no-one steering the ship, as soon someone comes in and tries to stamp some authority on the thing, and make some decisive actions, they are big time Charlies and can fuck off. |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Sept 16, 2024 14:55:54 GMT
You moan about him giving interviews but then if we never heard from him some would say why do they not come out and speak about things about the club. They can’t win can they 🤷♂️ Which is exactly what they were all saying before we started doing these regular update videos. |
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 16, 2024 14:55:59 GMT
No one is saying nobody wants the job. They are saying that the highly sought after Head Coaches at the top of their game want the job. Neil and Schumacher don't fall into that category. Do highly sought coaches at the top of their game want any Championship job? and why would they? |
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Post by philb on Sept 16, 2024 14:57:15 GMT
You moan about him giving interviews but then if we never heard from him some would say why do they not come out and speak about things about the club. They can’t win can they 🤷♂️ Absolutely, serial moaners on here honestly! We had years of moaning about no-one steering the ship, as soon someone comes in and tries to stamp some authority on the thing, and make some decisive actions, they are big time Charlies and can fuck off. Agree. Some ridiculous comments on here. |
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