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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 24, 2024 8:35:57 GMT
Hilarious to watch bayern's bipolar performances on here. Never has anyone's agenda been so blatant. Because he hated Schumacher so much, it doesn't matter what Pelach does, he's the second coming. Now he's nailed his colours to the mast, when Pelach leaves, the new bloke, whoever he is, will be wank. Rinse and repeat. You could equally aim that at those who have nailed their colours to the mast about Pelach and Walters though, who were far more vocal when we got 6 pts from his first 7 games than they have been after we’ve got 8 pts from the last 4 games…. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 24, 2024 8:40:48 GMT
Hilarious to watch bayern's bipolar performances on here. Never has anyone's agenda been so blatant. Because he hated Schumacher so much, it doesn't matter what Pelach does, he's the second coming. Now he's nailed his colours to the mast, when Pelach leaves, the new bloke, whoever he is, will be wank. Rinse and repeat. I wanted Schumacher to do well at the start. I think Pelach has done a good job so far. I haven’t said he’s the second coming. That’s made up bollocks. We have clearly improved. That is all I am saying. And as ever you morons cant look beyond the poster. And you’re going ott because you don’t agree with what I’m saying. That’s the only agenda here. I just like that we’ve become harder to beat, we look a better team and hope that continues. I’ve not nailed anything to the mast and I fully expect I’ll want him sacked in 6-18 months. So stop making shit up and calm your tits just because you don’t agree with what I’m saying. It’s fucking pathetic. |
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Post by thisisouryear on Nov 24, 2024 8:42:03 GMT
I like him as a manager, but He is absolutely pissing me off by refusing to criticise referees. I get the mentality of not making excuses. But wank decisions are wank decisions and we have 2 consecutively so not criticising is having fuck all effect. Grow a pair say what it is He will highlight the decisions no doubt but he wants our players to be resilient and to be stronger. We have a lot of young players who need to toughen up. Just leave him to do it his way and see where it gets us. In a season or two I expect us to be a machine |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 24, 2024 8:43:33 GMT
Hilarious to watch bayern's bipolar performances on here. Never has anyone's agenda been so blatant. Because he hated Schumacher so much, it doesn't matter what Pelach does, he's the second coming. Now he's nailed his colours to the mast, when Pelach leaves, the new bloke, whoever he is, will be wank. Rinse and repeat. You could equally aim that at those who have nailed their colours to the mast about Pelach and Walters though, who were far more vocal when we got 6 pts from his first 7 games than they have been after we’ve got 8 pts from the last 4 games…. Yeah but it doesn’t work that. This is because they don’t agree with me so it’s about me and they make it so. And can’t see that. I haven’t said a thing that’s ott about Pelach. I’ve said that I think we’ve improved and he’s done a good job given all the circumstances. Yet people are acting like I’ve said he’s God. It’s the usual gas lighting bollocks. It’s fucking weird. |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 24, 2024 9:15:32 GMT
We are better to watch but we can’t carry on conceding so many decent opportunities for the opposition. I’m hopeful he will get it right but we will have many ups and downs this season. A decent window could transform our season and we probably only need a couple of good ones to do that. Overall I’m pleasantly surprised by our performances and over the last couple of months, and you can see what he’s trying to do. Still think we need 3 bona fide midfielders in there though even if it means sacrificing Junho or Moran or whoever. Seko looks an excellent signing We really aren’t better to watch at all we’re extremely boring to watch. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 24, 2024 9:21:47 GMT
We are better to watch but we can’t carry on conceding so many decent opportunities for the opposition. I’m hopeful he will get it right but we will have many ups and downs this season. A decent window could transform our season and we probably only need a couple of good ones to do that. Overall I’m pleasantly surprised by our performances and over the last couple of months, and you can see what he’s trying to do. Still think we need 3 bona fide midfielders in there though even if it means sacrificing Junho or Moran or whoever. Seko looks an excellent signing We really aren’t better to watch at all we’re extremely boring to watch. We’ve been much better to watch at home. Even just knowing that it we go a goal down we are likely to fight to come back has made it better to watch. Than the inevitability of waiting to lose. |
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Post by PottersBrim on Nov 24, 2024 9:26:37 GMT
Hilarious to watch bayern's bipolar performances on here. Never has anyone's agenda been so blatant. Because he hated Schumacher so much, it doesn't matter what Pelach does, he's the second coming. Now he's nailed his colours to the mast, when Pelach leaves, the new bloke, whoever he is, will be wank. Rinse and repeat. I wanted Schumacher to do well at the start. I think Pelach has done a good job so far. I haven’t said he’s the second coming. That’s made up bollocks. We have clearly improved. That is all I am saying. And as ever you morons cant look beyond the poster. And you’re going ott because you don’t agree with what I’m saying. That’s the only agenda here. I just like that we’ve become harder to beat, we look a better team and hope that continues. I’ve not nailed anything to the mast and I fully expect I’ll want him sacked in 6-18 months. So stop making shit up and calm your tits just because you don’t agree with what I’m saying. It’s fucking pathetic. Trouser nailed it, didn’t he? And thats why the insults are coming out. I get it though, it’s tough to hear your hypocrisy being called out when you live on this message board. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 24, 2024 9:36:15 GMT
I wanted Schumacher to do well at the start. I think Pelach has done a good job so far. I haven’t said he’s the second coming. That’s made up bollocks. We have clearly improved. That is all I am saying. And as ever you morons cant look beyond the poster. And you’re going ott because you don’t agree with what I’m saying. That’s the only agenda here. I just like that we’ve become harder to beat, we look a better team and hope that continues. I’ve not nailed anything to the mast and I fully expect I’ll want him sacked in 6-18 months. So stop making shit up and calm your tits just because you don’t agree with what I’m saying. It’s fucking pathetic. Trouser nailed it, didn’t he? And thats why the insults are coming out. I get it though, it’s tough to hear your hypocrisy being called out when you live on this message board. Hypocrisy? I treated Schumacher the same when he first joined. After the Brum game we lost at home I was positive about the direction w we were going and then he shat himself. So no. It’s made up bollocks. I didn’t like Schumacher when he went back on what he said he wanted to do and then I wanted him sacked. To accuse someone of being bipolar because they are saying a manager is doing a good job when he’s done a good job is absolutely fucking bang out of order but par for the course. I’ll check with you next time I want to say something to make sure it’s the right thing to say. And that’s what you can’t see. It’s pathetic. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 24, 2024 9:49:08 GMT
Hilarious to watch bayern's bipolar performances on here. Never has anyone's agenda been so blatant. Because he hated Schumacher so much, it doesn't matter what Pelach does, he's the second coming. Now he's nailed his colours to the mast, when Pelach leaves, the new bloke, whoever he is, will be wank. Rinse and repeat. You want to see the crap he spouted about Cannon on the transfer thread. Meanwhile he’s calling posters over on this thread unnecessary and pathetic. Prime Bayern. |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 24, 2024 9:49:50 GMT
We really aren’t better to watch at all we’re extremely boring to watch. We’ve been much better to watch at home. Even just knowing that it we go a goal down we are likely to fight to come back has made it better to watch. Than the inevitability of waiting to lose. Just don’t agree, barring the Portsmouth game where we went for it from the word go I think we’re boring to watch with too much emphasis on shape blunting flair. It’s not my idea of good football to watch. I’d much rather watch high risk/high reward football. This is football tailored for people who above all else hate losing. That’s fine each to their own but the praise is odd coming from someone who branded the previous HC a coward. As I see it this football is far more cowardly in nature but hey ho you either like it or you don’t. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Nov 24, 2024 9:55:07 GMT
Trouser nailed it, didn’t he? And thats why the insults are coming out. I get it though, it’s tough to hear your hypocrisy being called out when you live on this message board. Hypocrisy? I treated Schumacher the same when he first joined. After the Brum game we lost at home I was positive about the direction w we were going and then he shat himself. So no. It’s made up bollocks. I didn’t like Schumacher when he went back on what he said he wanted to do and then I wanted him sacked. To accuse someone of being bipolar because they are saying a manager is doing a good job when he’s done a good job is absolutely fucking bang out of order but par for the course. I’ll check with you next time I want to say something to make sure it’s the right thing to say. And that’s what you can’t see. It’s pathetic. Surprised you're getting so rattled. Not like you chief. You stick to your guns. I didn't agree on your Schumacher for the sack opinion but fair play to you. And whilst I was very concerned about Pelach I think he may work out okay in time. And time is what he needs 👍 |
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Post by PottersBrim on Nov 24, 2024 9:58:38 GMT
We’ve been much better to watch at home. Even just knowing that it we go a goal down we are likely to fight to come back has made it better to watch. Than the inevitability of waiting to lose. Just don’t agree, barring the Portsmouth game where we went for it from the word go I think we’re boring to watch with too much emphasis on shape blunting flair. It’s not my idea of good football to watch. I’d much rather watch high risk/high reward football. This is football tailored for people who above all else hate losing. That’s fine each to their own but the praise is odd coming from someone who branded the previous HC a coward. As I see it this football is far more cowardly in nature but hey ho you either like it or you don’t. This is another example of Bayern's hypocrisy. Under Schumacher, he criticised us for not being attack-minded enough, insisting we should take the game to opponents home and away. Now, under Pelach, he supports our manager's deep defensive approach. |
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Post by headsgoup on Nov 24, 2024 10:10:17 GMT
I still can't work out whether he's good or lucky.
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Post by thisisouryear on Nov 24, 2024 10:20:21 GMT
I still can't work out whether he's good or lucky. Lucky? Refs have cost us 4 points in the last 2 games |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 24, 2024 10:23:19 GMT
Hypocrisy? I treated Schumacher the same when he first joined. After the Brum game we lost at home I was positive about the direction w we were going and then he shat himself. So no. It’s made up bollocks. I didn’t like Schumacher when he went back on what he said he wanted to do and then I wanted him sacked. To accuse someone of being bipolar because they are saying a manager is doing a good job when he’s done a good job is absolutely fucking bang out of order but par for the course. I’ll check with you next time I want to say something to make sure it’s the right thing to say. And that’s what you can’t see. It’s pathetic. Surprised you're getting so rattled. Not like you chief. You stick to your guns. I didn't agree on your Schumacher for the sack opinion but fair play to you. And whilst I was very concerned about Pelach I think he may work out okay in time. And time is what he needs 👍 Rattled? I just don’t like what’s gone with Pelaxh which boils down to being unsavoury in a lot of cases as I’ve said before |
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 24, 2024 10:23:26 GMT
Hilarious to watch bayern's bipolar performances on here. Never has anyone's agenda been so blatant. Because he hated Schumacher so much, it doesn't matter what Pelach does, he's the second coming. Now he's nailed his colours to the mast, when Pelach leaves, the new bloke, whoever he is, will be wank. Rinse and repeat. You could equally aim that at those who have nailed their colours to the mast about Pelach and Walters though, who were far more vocal when we got 6 pts from his first 7 games than they have been after we’ve got 8 pts from the last 4 games…. I honestly don’t think anyone has nailed their colours to the mast about either Walters or Pelach. From what I can see it’s predominantly wait and see. I think the vibes and noises from in the club are largely positive but the stuff on the pitch is still very much a work in progress. That said, this is still not really Pelachs team. He needs at least two windows and a decent pre season before we can say it’s even remotely his team. |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 24, 2024 10:24:34 GMT
Just don’t agree, barring the Portsmouth game where we went for it from the word go I think we’re boring to watch with too much emphasis on shape blunting flair. It’s not my idea of good football to watch. I’d much rather watch high risk/high reward football. This is football tailored for people who above all else hate losing. That’s fine each to their own but the praise is odd coming from someone who branded the previous HC a coward. As I see it this football is far more cowardly in nature but hey ho you either like it or you don’t. This is another example of Bayern's hypocrisy. Under Schumacher, he criticised us for not being attack-minded enough, insisting we should take the game to opponents home and away. Now, under Pelach, he supports our manager's deep defensive approach. Schumacher was on a hiding to nothing the moment Walters walked through the door. I think that much is now clear. He did indeed compromise his beliefs in the face of some vocal players favouring a more pragmatic approach. I doubt that would have materialised if those players didn’t know they had the ear of the SD. His ideas were going to take time to fully implement just as NP’s will. To me it’s now clear that there was not alignment between SD and HC on the whole belief of how to play the game. IMO neither have got it right nearly often enough but I strongly believe that in the games where we did execute what Schumacher was trying to implement we were far better to watch than we have so far been under Pelach. Obviously it’s all water under the bridge and I want NP to be successful but I have to be honest and say in the main I’ve found his football rather dull. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 24, 2024 10:25:20 GMT
Just don’t agree, barring the Portsmouth game where we went for it from the word go I think we’re boring to watch with too much emphasis on shape blunting flair. It’s not my idea of good football to watch. I’d much rather watch high risk/high reward football. This is football tailored for people who above all else hate losing. That’s fine each to their own but the praise is odd coming from someone who branded the previous HC a coward. As I see it this football is far more cowardly in nature but hey ho you either like it or you don’t. This is another example of Bayern's hypocrisy. Under Schumacher, he criticised us for not being attack-minded enough, insisting we should take the game to opponents home and away. Now, under Pelach, he supports our manager's deep defensive approach. He starter attack minded and went back on that. That’s what I didn’t like. I don’t think are deep and defensive 🤣🤣 At home we’ve been much better than that. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 24, 2024 10:28:45 GMT
This is another example of Bayern's hypocrisy. Under Schumacher, he criticised us for not being attack-minded enough, insisting we should take the game to opponents home and away. Now, under Pelach, he supports our manager's deep defensive approach. Schumacher was on a hiding to nothing the moment Walters walked through the door. I think that much is now clear. He did indeed compromise his beliefs in the face of some vocal players favouring a more pragmatic approach. I doubt that would have materialised if those players didn’t know they had the ear of the SD. His ideas were going to take time to fully implement just as NP’s will. To me it’s now clear that there was not alignment between SD and HC on the whole belief of how to play the game. IMO neither have got it right nearly often enough but I strongly believe that in the games where we did execute what Schumacher was trying to implement we were far better to watch than we have so far been under Pelach. Obviously it’s all water under the bridge and I want NP to be successful but I have to be honest and say in the main I’ve found his football rather dull. The rumour mill would suggest that Schumacher was lucky to last as long as he did. If there’s any truth in some of the stuff I’ve heard Walters was at fault for letting him start the season in the manager seat. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Nov 24, 2024 10:29:00 GMT
Surprised you're getting so rattled. Not like you chief. You stick to your guns. I didn't agree on your Schumacher for the sack opinion but fair play to you. And whilst I was very concerned about Pelach I think he may work out okay in time. And time is what he needs 👍 Rattled? I just don’t like what’s gone with Pelaxh which boils down to being unsavoury in a lot of cases as I’ve said before Yeah rattled. You take this stuff in your stride normally but you seem to be letting it get to you. Tinner worth it. |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 24, 2024 10:39:55 GMT
Schumacher was on a hiding to nothing the moment Walters walked through the door. I think that much is now clear. He did indeed compromise his beliefs in the face of some vocal players favouring a more pragmatic approach. I doubt that would have materialised if those players didn’t know they had the ear of the SD. His ideas were going to take time to fully implement just as NP’s will. To me it’s now clear that there was not alignment between SD and HC on the whole belief of how to play the game. IMO neither have got it right nearly often enough but I strongly believe that in the games where we did execute what Schumacher was trying to implement we were far better to watch than we have so far been under Pelach. Obviously it’s all water under the bridge and I want NP to be successful but I have to be honest and say in the main I’ve found his football rather dull. The rumour mill would suggest that Schumacher was lucky to last as long as he did. If there’s any truth in some of the stuff I’ve heard Walters was at fault for letting him start the season in the manager seat. Given the way we ended last season that just confirms a fundamental difference in beliefs and as such the parting of ways was better off being sooner than later. It only really confirms in my mind Walters duplicitous nature. He’s got what he wants now so it’s all on him. Hope NP can start to produce something more fluent. I’m perhaps an extreme example but I don’t think it will take long for folk to tire of just not losing and want something more. |
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Post by mickstupp on Nov 24, 2024 10:45:51 GMT
Schumacher was on a hiding to nothing the moment Walters walked through the door. I think that much is now clear. He did indeed compromise his beliefs in the face of some vocal players favouring a more pragmatic approach. I doubt that would have materialised if those players didn’t know they had the ear of the SD. His ideas were going to take time to fully implement just as NP’s will. To me it’s now clear that there was not alignment between SD and HC on the whole belief of how to play the game. IMO neither have got it right nearly often enough but I strongly believe that in the games where we did execute what Schumacher was trying to implement we were far better to watch than we have so far been under Pelach. Obviously it’s all water under the bridge and I want NP to be successful but I have to be honest and say in the main I’ve found his football rather dull. The rumour mill would suggest that Schumacher was lucky to last as long as he did. If there’s any truth in some of the stuff I’ve heard Walters was at fault for letting him start the season in the manager seat. Apparently, Walters thought Schumacher was bone idle. An encouraging end to the season gave him a five game trail at the start of this season which he failed with two awful performances at Watford and Oxford and also a tactical shambles at home to West Brom. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 24, 2024 11:16:32 GMT
The rumour mill would suggest that Schumacher was lucky to last as long as he did. If there’s any truth in some of the stuff I’ve heard Walters was at fault for letting him start the season in the manager seat. Given the way we ended last season that just confirms a fundamental difference in beliefs and as such the parting of ways was better off being sooner than later. It only really confirms in my mind Walters duplicitous nature. He’s got what he wants now so it’s all on him. Hope NP can start to produce something more fluent. I’m perhaps an extreme example but I don’t think it will take long for folk to tire of just not losing and want something more. I think their beliefs regarding football were aligned. It was more to do with their perception of professionalism etc. But again it’s rumour so not really fair to go there. That said I think there’s a lot more to the story than a footballing disagreement. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 24, 2024 11:18:28 GMT
The rumour mill would suggest that Schumacher was lucky to last as long as he did. If there’s any truth in some of the stuff I’ve heard Walters was at fault for letting him start the season in the manager seat. Apparently, Walters thought Schumacher was bone idle. An encouraging end to the season gave him a five game trail at the start of this season which he failed with two awful performances at Watford and Oxford and also a tactical shambles at home to West Brom. In a nutshell what I heard. Now I can imagine Walters can be a twat in his dealings with people so there may be more to it but either way we are where we are. |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Nov 24, 2024 11:36:18 GMT
Can’t really gauge the overall opinion of Pelach based on this thread? I’m not seeing the negative, defensive approach to be honest. I’m seeing a manager playing more to our strengths with players where they should be playing. His main problem at the moment is the attackers, overall, not quite being at it but we’re still picking up plenty of points. We’re good at home and have tightened up away from home generally.
For a brand new manager/coach who hasn’t done this role before, I was scared it might be too much for him, but he seems comfortable and confident. The only way is up if we carry this on, with players to come back and another window around the corner. An important period coming up now up until end of December, can’t allow it to trail off and cut adrift from the play offs, and I don’t think we will.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 24, 2024 11:42:51 GMT
Rattled? I just don’t like what’s gone with Pelaxh which boils down to being unsavoury in a lot of cases as I’ve said before Yeah rattled. You take this stuff in your stride normally but you seem to be letting it get to you. Tinner worth it. I just don’t like the reaction to him and like I said I think in a lot of cases it’s for unsavoury reasons. |
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Post by leicspotter on Nov 24, 2024 11:52:31 GMT
I like our new coach and have been impressed with how he handles himself, no looking for excuses, not wanting the players to have that sort of mentality either. If we go behind in a match it doesn't have to be 'game over', which suggests he is building resilience and confidence into the players. Clearly we are not the finished article but a style is developing and we do create chances. The stuff 'behind the scenes' is very unlikely to ever be fully revealed but Narciss had nowt to do with it, so that shouldn't be used against him. Whilst I was a fan of SS, this guy makes me feel more confident about for the future of Stoke City Am I starting to sound like Bayern...    |
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