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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Oct 29, 2024 22:45:05 GMT
Order a kebab and get some sleep. We look fucking shot at the minute and the statistics are quite frankly abysmal. Have you looked at the next 10 fixtures? We're in a big mess and I've seen nothing to suggest that we have the tenacity or drive to turn it around. Look at shots against us in the last few games and wake up. A loss to Derby will be catastrophic. It won't send us down mathematically but won't help mentally. 'It won't send us down mathematically' Haha cheers for that,glad you realised how ridiculous you're sounding. Tell me that at the end of the season if we're still managed by this current lot. Vale park, here we come. Ridiculously deluded. |
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 29, 2024 22:45:57 GMT
Come on we need to give him some time
He's inherited an unfit team
A team short of confidence
A team with players not up to this level and he's working with other managers signings
Even if we do go down we need to look at it positively ie spend to invest on youth with no ffp
I like what he's saying and we must give him time
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Oct 29, 2024 22:47:01 GMT
Come on we need to give him some time He's inherited an unfit team A team short of confidence A team with players not up to this level and he's working with other managers signings Even if we do go down we need to look at it positively ie spend to invest on youth with no ffp I like what he's saying and we must give him time Wrong. He's working with Walters signings, mostly. In addition to this, he's inexperienced. I feel sorry for him. |
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Post by stokerstayinup on Oct 29, 2024 22:48:42 GMT
'It won't send us down mathematically' Haha cheers for that,glad you realised how ridiculous you're sounding. Tell me that at the end of the season if we're still managed by this current lot. Vale park, here we come. Ridiculously deluded. Your mate lost 6 out of 7 games earlier this year and we were in the relegation zone,which of those games were you on here spamming that we need to win? |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 29, 2024 22:54:01 GMT
'It won't send us down mathematically' Haha cheers for that,glad you realised how ridiculous you're sounding. Tell me that at the end of the season if we're still managed by this current lot. Vale park, here we come. Ridiculously deluded. ou're getting a bit fucking boring now fella if I may be so bold. Where were you when we lost 6 out of 7 under "Ste" at the start of his reign? Honestly you keep parroting the line that you feel sorry for the new coach, you're desperate for him to fail so you can say "I told you so" it's blindingly obvious....... |
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Post by jzime on Oct 29, 2024 22:54:33 GMT
Come on we need to give him some time He's inherited an unfit team A team short of confidence A team with players not up to this level and he's working with other managers signings Even if we do go down we need to look at it positively ie spend to invest on youth with no ffp I like what he's saying and we must give him time If we were in deep, deep trouble before he arrived, this argument would hold a lot more weight. But Steven Schumacher was doing more-or-less okay. Things were pretty ropey in some fixtures and I wasn't totally convinced by him, but I never had any doubts we would do anything but finish midtable under him. We'd won a few games, drawn a few more, given some young players a really proper go in the side, and gone on a decent little cup run. Pelach is using all the same players but has made us much, much worse and has us leaking goals at a truly alarming rate. I wasn't worried about relegation under Schumacher. Now I spend every Saturday afternoon with one eye watching who is below us in the table. This has the potential to be one of the poorest managerial appointments, and one of the biggest unforced errors, in the history of the club. |
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Oct 29, 2024 22:54:57 GMT
Tell me that at the end of the season if we're still managed by this current lot. Vale park, here we come. Ridiculously deluded. Your mate lost 6 out of 7 games earlier this year and we were in the relegation zone,which of those games were you on here spamming that we need to win? He's family and his statistics were far superior. In addition to that, he had a dressing room that was fucked. I think Pelach must have the worst record in ppg for a very long time and I fear is only going to get worse. I really hope I'm wrong but it's looking dismal. He won't be here at Christmas. |
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 29, 2024 22:56:43 GMT
Come on we need to give him some time He's inherited an unfit team A team short of confidence A team with players not up to this level and he's working with other managers signings Even if we do go down we need to look at it positively ie spend to invest on youth with no ffp I like what he's saying and we must give him time Wrong. He's working with Walters signings, mostly. In addition to this, he's inexperienced. I feel sorry for him. It’s quite clear that you are using this message board as a platform to spread anti club sentiments because you are salty about your cousin getting sacked. |
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Oct 29, 2024 22:57:15 GMT
Tell me that at the end of the season if we're still managed by this current lot. Vale park, here we come. Ridiculously deluded. ou're getting a bit fucking boring now fella if I may be so bold. Where were you when we lost 6 out of 7 under "Ste" at the start of his reign? Honestly you keep parroting the line that you feel sorry for the new coach, you're desperate for him to fail so you can say "I told you so" it's blindingly obvious....... Is it? Are all the other posters family too? Get a grip. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 29, 2024 22:58:42 GMT
You're getting a bit fucking boring now fella if I may be so bold. Where were you when we lost 6 out of 7 under "Ste" at the start of his reign? Honestly you keep parroting the line that you feel sorry for the new coach, you're desperate for him to fail so you can say "I told you so" it's blindingly obvious....... Is it? Too right it is. |
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Oct 29, 2024 23:00:50 GMT
Not on my own though am I? Most fans can see what's happening right before their eyes. It's not good. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 29, 2024 23:01:18 GMT
Your mate lost 6 out of 7 games earlier this year and we were in the relegation zone,which of those games were you on here spamming that we need to win? He's family and his statistics were far superior. In addition to that, he had a dressing room that was fucked. I think Pelach must have the worst record in ppg for a very long time and I fear is only going to get worse. I really hope I'm wrong but it's looking dismal. He won't be here at Christmas. His PPG is slightly less than 1 after 7 games. After 12 games Schumacher's was exactly 1. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 29, 2024 23:03:56 GMT
You're getting a bit fucking boring now fella if I may be so bold. Where were you when we lost 6 out of 7 under "Ste" at the start of his reign? Honestly you keep parroting the line that you feel sorry for the new coach, you're desperate for him to fail so you can say "I told you so" it's blindingly obvious....... Is it? Are all the other posters family too? Get a grip. Your family member saw his arse in the summer, got the sulks, turned into a lazy bastard that came and went when he pleased, put on amateurish coaching sessions and couldn't be bothered to watch midweek games live is what I've heard from someone I trust. So forgive me if I'm a little bit sceptical about your one eyed account of things.......  |
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Oct 29, 2024 23:04:09 GMT
He's family and his statistics were far superior. In addition to that, he had a dressing room that was fucked. I think Pelach must have the worst record in ppg for a very long time and I fear is only going to get worse. I really hope I'm wrong but it's looking dismal. He won't be here at Christmas. His PPG is slightly less than 1 after 7 games. After 12 games Schumacher's was exactly 1. Can you honestly it improving mate? I've not seen much to suggest it will. I sincerely hope I'm wrong. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 29, 2024 23:05:43 GMT
His PPG is slightly less than 1 after 7 games. After 12 games Schumacher's was exactly 1. Can you honestly it improving mate? I've not seen much to suggest it will. I sincerely hope I'm wrong. Yes I can. And I still don't believe you fella........ |
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Post by stokerstayinup on Oct 29, 2024 23:06:30 GMT
Your mate lost 6 out of 7 games earlier this year and we were in the relegation zone,which of those games were you on here spamming that we need to win? He's family and his statistics were far superior. In addition to that, he had a dressing room that was fucked. I think Pelach must have the worst record in ppg for a very long time and I fear is only going to get worse. I really hope I'm wrong but it's looking dismal. He won't be here at Christmas. Congratulations on completely avoiding the question,does that make you pissed up and in need of a kebab? I didn't want Schumacher to leave and see it as a massive gamble appointing a coach with no experience,however he's here now and all the noise about getting rid after just a few weeks is embarassing,and talk about must win games is 6 months premature. |
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Oct 29, 2024 23:07:50 GMT
Is it? Are all the other posters family too? Get a grip. Your family member saw his arse in the summer, got the sulks, turned into a lazy bastard that came and went when he pleased, put on amateurish coaching sessions and couldn't be bothered to watch midweek games live is what I've heard from someone I trust. So forgive me if I'm a little bit sceptical about your one eyed account of things....... That's absolutely fine with me mate. I trust your source was involved in transfer discussions, ending of contracts etc? I knew a hell of a lot before the sacking and wasn't impressed with the way that my club was being run. |
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Post by Gods on Oct 29, 2024 23:08:15 GMT
Pelach needs to win a few football matches, there's not much doubt about that.
It's Walters mad cap scheme so if Pelach is to be sacked mad Jon has to go with him.
Perhaps try to get a sensible manager in.
I'll do it if we are totally stuck.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Oct 29, 2024 23:09:13 GMT
Can you honestly it improving mate? I've not seen much to suggest it will. I sincerely hope I'm wrong. Yes I can. And I still don't believe you fella........ Cool. I won't respond to you directly then. However, I will call out what's happening. No hard feelings👍 |
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Post by kjpt140v on Oct 29, 2024 23:11:56 GMT
An expert in relegation. Walters out.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 29, 2024 23:17:25 GMT
Yes I can. And I still don't believe you fella........ Cool. I won't respond to you directly then. However, I will call out what's happening. No hard feelings👍 Respond away fella you're perfectly entitled to your opinion as much as anyone else. But being a family member of the ex-coach makes your account somewhat biased in my opinion and there's no getting away from that. I'm sure most would show the same loyalty. I do find interesting and quite telling that you ignore rather than respond to the accusations of Schumacher's standards dropping this season though I'll be honest..... |
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Post by smallthorner on Oct 29, 2024 23:17:43 GMT
Is it? Are all the other posters family too? Get a grip. Your family member saw his arse in the summer, got the sulks, turned into a lazy bastard that came and went when he pleased, put on amateurish coaching sessions and couldn't be bothered to watch midweek games live is what I've heard from someone I trust. So forgive me if I'm a little bit sceptical about your one eyed account of things....... Wow... that's some statement mate. How kosher do you think it is? |
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Post by stokecitydom on Oct 29, 2024 23:22:28 GMT
Your family member saw his arse in the summer, got the sulks, turned into a lazy bastard that came and went when he pleased, put on amateurish coaching sessions and couldn't be bothered to watch midweek games live is what I've heard from someone I trust. So forgive me if I'm a little bit sceptical about your one eyed account of things....... That's absolutely fine with me mate. I trust your source was involved in transfer discussions, ending of contracts etc? I knew a hell of a lot before the sacking and wasn't impressed with the way that my club was being run. I think the issue is that you mention these things that went on at the club, or the issues that Schumacher had to deal with, without actually giving any detail. That’s obviously fine & your decision, but it just comes across as bitter. I’m sure most of us in your position would be angry at Walters if they had sacked their cousin in somewhat odd circumstances. However you have to give the new manager abit of time. I’m not convinced either away, but he does need some time. Back in April when we were 1-0 down away at Sheff Wednesday with 15 minutes left, I was convinced we were going to be relegated. Schumacher had been in the job for 4 months and we were awful, luckily we hit a good mini run of form and stayed up comfortably. Just shows how quick things can change. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 29, 2024 23:22:44 GMT
Your family member saw his arse in the summer, got the sulks, turned into a lazy bastard that came and went when he pleased, put on amateurish coaching sessions and couldn't be bothered to watch midweek games live is what I've heard from someone I trust. So forgive me if I'm a little bit sceptical about your one eyed account of things....... Wow... that's some statement mate. How kosher do you think it is? Like most things the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. And I was probably using emotive language to drive home my point a bit But as I said just it is interesting that fish never responds to those particular allegations he just ignores them...... |
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Post by chamberlain on Oct 29, 2024 23:22:54 GMT
I didn't want or expect SS to be sacked but let's be honest. This season under his leadership we only had 1 half of football against Coventry that looked anything like we knew what we were doing. The rest of it was mainly garbage.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Oct 29, 2024 23:25:18 GMT
Cool. I won't respond to you directly then. However, I will call out what's happening. No hard feelings👍 Respond away fella you're perfectly entitled to your opinion as much as anyone else. But being a family member of the ex-coach makes your account somewhat biased in my opinion and there's no getting away from that. I'm sure most would show the same loyalty. I do find interesting and quite telling that you ignore rather than respond to the accusations of Schumacher's standards dropping this season though I'll be honest..... His standards didn't drop and he was fully committed mate. No idea where you've heard this from but he stayed with us for 3 nights a week to stay local, so i witnessedhis levels of commitment firsthand. He left our house at 8 every morning and we didn't see him until after 5pm. He was constantly on his phone and was looking at ways to improve us. I've no doubt he did his utmost to make us succeed. |
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Post by Fred Merger on Oct 29, 2024 23:30:24 GMT
This appointment simply has to work, or it's Walters head on the block first!
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Post by danceswithclams on Oct 29, 2024 23:33:44 GMT
He left our house at 8 every morning and we didn't see him until after 5pm. The 'Spoons near me opens at 8am. |
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Oct 29, 2024 23:37:56 GMT
He left our house at 8 every morning and we didn't see him until after 5pm. The 'Spoons near me opens at 8am. 🤣 |
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Oct 30, 2024 0:02:31 GMT
Just can’t make my mind up how much time to give him. I think if we’re shit against Derby I’ll be worried.
Seen positive signs and glimpses of really decent football. Admittedly Portsmouth are shit, but if we were anything that night, we were clinical, took every chance and more. We let them come back, but it didn’t phase us and we went on to absolutely batter them, not just beat them.
It’s an exaggerated example, I don’t even expect half of that weekly, but I at least want to be excited to watch Stoke and be proud of my team and the players, but I’m just bored shitless and deflated every week.
I don’t care who is charge, I just don’t want to have the feeling that I don’t want to watch Stoke anymore. It’s the only thing that keeps me remotely interested in football.
I hope the difference that night was Sam Gallagher and he’s the missing piece to our little shit show.
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