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Post by lordb on Aug 31, 2024 17:22:31 GMT
Watched him against Leek he's a real good player for sure and Jeffers! What's Jeffers like?
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Post by thischarmingmanc on Aug 31, 2024 17:25:36 GMT
I thought this was about Dixon, my mistake! Dont bill silly Bayerns arrived, its all about him.
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Post by robrigo on Aug 31, 2024 17:26:46 GMT
Its pretty simple Laurent is 29 and proven at this level. Sidibe is 17 and never played at this level, so hes being eased in. Now youre just talking bollocks that even Alex Ferguson wouldnt have done. So far so good with Sidibe, but dont put too much pressure or expectation on him right now. Im sure he will be a regular starter by October time and our most important midfielder. No, it’s simple. Laurent isn’t and hasn’t been good enough for us. Sidibe had shown he was better and should have been playing over him. It was poor management. There’s no pressure. But he’s a very good player and better than people want to believe I think. And why October? He’s ready now. He was ready a while a go. He may be ready ability wise and I’m sure the head coach and everyone at the club knows it. However, the simple fact is that he’s 17. He’s still developing mentally and physically and that needs to be done properly- as with all the young players.
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Post by lordb on Aug 31, 2024 17:27:01 GMT
Might be an idea to try Dixon at RB v Fleetwood, see if he can back up his decent showing there at Carlisle.
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 31, 2024 17:27:50 GMT
There really is no point knocking. Everyone can see Sol's potential and if he fulfils it he's going to be some player, but no manager at this level is going to start a 17 year old kid ahead of experienced first team players or loan players three or four years his senior from the Premier League. Piss and whine all you like, it's not going to happen. Sol is going to be an integral part of the first team and he's going to get plenty of minutes, but he just isn't going to be a regular first team starter. The people (person) clamouring for him to start know this as well, but it's just another stick to beat the manager with. But it should when the talent is so obvious. And the other player is Josh Laurent. All he’s experienced in is being fucking useless. It was an easy decision. Why isn’t he going to be a regular starter? That’s just insane. There’s no logic to it. Bar people being over cautious. Laurent is so fucking useless that one of the favourites to go up this season just spunked a million on him. Like Baker, Laurent flatters to deceive and we're well shot of both of them. The reason we let them both go is because the coward in charge has seen the potential of the likes of Sidibe.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 17:28:22 GMT
No, it’s simple. Laurent isn’t and hasn’t been good enough for us. Sidibe had shown he was better and should have been playing over him. It was poor management. There’s no pressure. But he’s a very good player and better than people want to believe I think. And why October? He’s ready now. He was ready a while a go. He may be ready ability wise and I’m sure the head coach and everyone at the club knows it. However, the simple fact is that he’s 17. He’s still developing mentally and physically and that needs to be done properly- as with all the young players. Of course but he’s ready to be and should be starting 25 league games this season. I really don’t get why everyone doesn’t agree 🤣 It’s the ideal amount for talent vs keeping him fit.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 17:30:19 GMT
But it should when the talent is so obvious. And the other player is Josh Laurent. All he’s experienced in is being fucking useless. It was an easy decision. Why isn’t he going to be a regular starter? That’s just insane. There’s no logic to it. Bar people being over cautious. Laurent is so fucking useless that one of the favourites to go up this season just spunked a million on him. Like Baker, Laurent flatters to deceive and we're well shot of both of them. The reason we let them both go is because the coward in charge has seen the potential of the likes of Sidibe. Laurent was outclassed by 11 year olds from the academy in a YouTube video ffs. That’s about his level. Sidibe has been underused so far. Why he didn’t start today is anyone’s guess. Hopefully the manager plays him more soon. I really don’t understand why people are being so damn cautious.
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Post by butlerstbob on Aug 31, 2024 17:30:29 GMT
Watched him against Leek he's a real good player for sure and Jeffers! What's Jeffers like? From what I remember he had good pace and very tricky, looks a good prospect👍 Him Sidibe and Dixon stood out for me👍
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Post by bertiestan on Aug 31, 2024 17:36:35 GMT
No they don’t. As I’ve been saying all summer, Sidibe should play a big part for us this season. And actually it’s important that he does. For many many reasons. And he is🤷♂️🔴⚪️
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 17:37:22 GMT
No they don’t. As I’ve been saying all summer, Sidibe should play a big part for us this season. And actually it’s important that he does. For many many reasons. And he is🤷♂️🔴⚪️ He’s barely played!
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Post by bertiestan on Aug 31, 2024 17:40:48 GMT
Fuck offfff Bayern😂 he’s had plenty of minutes for lad his age…the management of him is spot on imo, we’ve just won 0-1 away from home n your complaining 🤦🏼♂️ He came on n more than played his part🔴⚪️
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Aug 31, 2024 17:40:49 GMT
Its pretty simple Laurent is 29 and proven at this level. Sidibe is 17 and never played at this level, so hes being eased in. Now youre just talking bollocks that even Alex Ferguson wouldnt have done. So far so good with Sidibe, but dont put too much pressure or expectation on him right now. Im sure he will be a regular starter by October time and our most important midfielder. There really is no point knocking. Everyone can see Sol's potential and if he fulfils it he's going to be some player, but no manager at this level is going to start a 17 year old kid ahead of experienced first team players or loan players three or four years his senior from the Premier League. Piss and whine all you like, it's not going to happen. Sol is going to be an integral part of the first team squad and he's going to get plenty of minutes, but he just isn't going to be a regular first team starter. The people (person) clamouring for him to start know this as well, but it's just another stick to beat the manager with. Archie Gray played a full season at Leeds last year at the same age. There’s no reason why Sol can’t do the same here.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 31, 2024 17:41:08 GMT
Could be a name in our starting 11 already next season! I really like what I see when this boy plays.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 17:42:54 GMT
Fuck offfff Bayern😂 he’s had plenty of minutes for lad his age…the management of him is spot on imo, we’ve just won 0-1 away from home n your complaining 🤦🏼♂️ He came on n more than played his part🔴⚪️ Yes because I want to see one of our better players playing more 🤣
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Post by lordb on Aug 31, 2024 17:42:58 GMT
Someone made the point about Dixon being ahead of Rose in the pecking order (once Rose is fit) I know some people think Rose is shit but imo he's not bad at all nonetheless Dixon keeps coming in and looking good Rose could be a player to sell
Appreciate Bayern will insist Wilmot is shit and should be sold but I think Ben is a good defender and had a good game today
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 17:43:55 GMT
Someone made the point about Dixon being ahead of Rose in the pecking order (once Rose is fit) I know some people think Rose is shit but imo he's not bad at all nonetheless Dixon keeps coming in and looking good Rose could be a player to sell Appreciate Bayern will insist Wilmot is shit and should be sold but I think Ben is a good defender and had a good game today Someone might actually want Rose?
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 31, 2024 17:45:58 GMT
Laurent is so fucking useless that one of the favourites to go up this season just spunked a million on him. Like Baker, Laurent flatters to deceive and we're well shot of both of them. The reason we let them both go is because the coward in charge has seen the potential of the likes of Sidibe. Laurent was outclassed by 11 year olds from the academy in a YouTube video ffs. That’s about his level. Sidibe has been underused so far. Why he didn’t start today is anyone’s guess. Hopefully the manager plays him more soon. I really don’t understand why people are being so damn cautious. Your first sentence highlights your naivety😉
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 17:49:35 GMT
Laurent was outclassed by 11 year olds from the academy in a YouTube video ffs. That’s about his level. Sidibe has been underused so far. Why he didn’t start today is anyone’s guess. Hopefully the manager plays him more soon. I really don’t understand why people are being so damn cautious. Your first sentence highlights your naivety😉 That video showed Laurent up imo. He was so bad. And that he didn’t mind being shown up by kids showed his mentality. He’s not a winner. I thought it was awful. Tbh it was Sol’s younger Brother (who is in the academy too) that showed him up. If they were just fans I’d kind of get being nice about it but academy players? Play to win.
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Post by Ron on Aug 31, 2024 18:15:16 GMT
Another like Sidibe who just slotted straight in and looks a player Schumacher is not afraid to blood the young lads and his management of them is top drawer have to say I’ve had my reservations about SS, but the way he is handling the high quality you gerstwrs is superb
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Aug 31, 2024 18:20:00 GMT
Laurent is so fucking useless that one of the favourites to go up this season just spunked a million on him. Like Baker, Laurent flatters to deceive and we're well shot of both of them. The reason we let them both go is because the coward in charge has seen the potential of the likes of Sidibe. Laurent was outclassed by 11 year olds from the academy in a YouTube video ffs. That’s about his level. Sidibe has been underused so far. Why he didn’t start today is anyone’s guess. Hopefully the manager plays him more soon. I really don’t understand why people are being so damn cautious. I also think Laurent should've gone all Michael Owen and smashed the ball at kids. Guardiola is clueless too, the way he held Phil Foden back for so long.
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Post by J-Roar on Aug 31, 2024 18:22:09 GMT
Because he could start a game and we lose 3 nil and he has a shit game and scores an own goal. So far he has played against Middlesborough reserves and 30 minutes against Plymouth and he looks the bees knees. I actually think he will be the most important midfielder this season - but even I wouldnt put that responsibility on his shoulders just yet. Let him play for 30 minutes a game without so much pressure and show what he can do. He’s shown what he can do. He showed what he could do at the start of last season and was then weirdly taken away before getting ill. He should have been doing this last season as he didn’t look out of place when Neil was playing him as a 16 year old. I genuinely think using him as a sub is a year behind what he should be doing and he is capable of doing. It also worries me that we’ll barely get to watch him before he leaves. Hopefully the family ties make that harder. But the Chelsea links are real. And if Chelsea want him then the rest won’t be far behind either. So it’d be nice if we can make the most of him whilst we can. But I do hope that he’ll stay for at least season before that happens. For his own good more than anything tbh. You also had a problem with Guardiola easing Foden into the team rather than playing him to death as Ferguson did with Rooney. There's no end to your managerial powers. I know you're going to come back and say you were still right about Foden. You still believe you were right that a pie could be accidentally dropped like a discus at Hillsborough though.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 18:22:23 GMT
Laurent was outclassed by 11 year olds from the academy in a YouTube video ffs. That’s about his level. Sidibe has been underused so far. Why he didn’t start today is anyone’s guess. Hopefully the manager plays him more soon. I really don’t understand why people are being so damn cautious. I also think Laurent should've gone all Michael Owen and smashed the ball at kids. Guardiola is clueless too, the way he held Phil Foden back for so long. It wasn’t even about that. He wasn’t making simple passes and doing simple drills. It was really bad. And just showed a terrible attitude. I mean the fact the keepers won it should have embarrassed the lot of them. And seemingly didn’t.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 18:23:40 GMT
He’s shown what he can do. He showed what he could do at the start of last season and was then weirdly taken away before getting ill. He should have been doing this last season as he didn’t look out of place when Neil was playing him as a 16 year old. I genuinely think using him as a sub is a year behind what he should be doing and he is capable of doing. It also worries me that we’ll barely get to watch him before he leaves. Hopefully the family ties make that harder. But the Chelsea links are real. And if Chelsea want him then the rest won’t be far behind either. So it’d be nice if we can make the most of him whilst we can. But I do hope that he’ll stay for at least season before that happens. For his own good more than anything tbh. You also had a problem with Guardiola easing Foden into the team rather than playing him to death as Ferguson did with Rooney. There's no end to your managerial powers. I know you're going to come back and say you were still right about Foden. You still believe you were right that a pie could be accidentally dropped like a discus at Hillsborough though. Yeah he got it wrong. Foden still doesn’t play enough now.
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Post by J-Roar on Aug 31, 2024 18:26:53 GMT
There really is no point knocking. Everyone can see Sol's potential and if he fulfils it he's going to be some player, but no manager at this level is going to start a 17 year old kid ahead of experienced first team players or loan players three or four years his senior from the Premier League. Piss and whine all you like, it's not going to happen. Sol is going to be an integral part of the first team squad and he's going to get plenty of minutes, but he just isn't going to be a regular first team starter. The people (person) clamouring for him to start know this as well, but it's just another stick to beat the manager with. Archie Gray played a full season at Leeds last year at the same age. There’s no reason why Sol can’t do the same here. Are they exactly the same physically and psychologically? Do you know both of them personally and have seen the medical assessments of the development both? There could a million reasons why he's not played him.
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Post by J-Roar on Aug 31, 2024 18:27:49 GMT
You also had a problem with Guardiola easing Foden into the team rather than playing him to death as Ferguson did with Rooney. There's no end to your managerial powers. I know you're going to come back and say you were still right about Foden. You still believe you were right that a pie could be accidentally dropped like a discus at Hillsborough though. Yeah he got it wrong. Foden still doesn’t play enough now. So do you know better than Guardiola?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 18:30:06 GMT
Yeah he got it wrong. Foden still doesn’t play enough now. So do you know better than Guardiola? I think he held Foden back for sure. I think why Foden is so poor for England stems from him not being in the squad when he should have been earlier on.
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Post by J-Roar on Aug 31, 2024 18:36:53 GMT
So do you know better than Guardiola? I think he held Foden back for sure. I think why Foden is so poor for England stems from him not being in the squad when he should have been earlier on. And the pie?
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Post by pushon on Aug 31, 2024 18:43:33 GMT
Another like Sidibe who just slotted straight in and looks a player Schumacher is not afraid to blood the young lads and his management of them is top drawer I’ve never felt so positive after todays game after a good few years of mainly misery - Some great youngsters coming through and being given a chance. - In Manhouf, Bae, Burger and now Bocat 4 excellent young players who are ours - Some great young loanees being given a chance which will only improve our reputation amongst the big clubs - Players being moved on that were holding us back I’ve criticised SS in the past for some bad decisions but he and the management team deserve huge credit for changing the direction of the club. If we have some luck with injuries I can see this year being much improved on the last few and far more entertaining. It's normally directors who dictate the direction of the organisation. That's probably why they're called Directors. 🤔
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Post by tuum on Aug 31, 2024 18:43:44 GMT
Archie Gray played a full season at Leeds last year at the same age. There’s no reason why Sol can’t do the same here. Are they exactly the same physically and psychologically? Do you know both of them personally and have seen the medical assessments of the development both? There could a million reasons why he's not played him. Of course you are right but if I was a betting man I reckon the main reason why talented 17yr olds are not played as often as they should be is more likely down to the attitude of the manager.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 31, 2024 18:49:06 GMT
Logs on. Reads the 94th identical post from Bayern today. Logs off.
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