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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 31, 2024 10:32:05 GMT
It was far from shoddy, took a while to get gong but he was central to our end of season pic up in form. You should judge loan players by how there time with the club finishes not how its starts. Well unless you are a strange person who gets to feel superior by slagging off stoke players on the internet, in that case you make you mind up that there shit on the first bad game they have, and talk utter BS about them whilst anyone will listen. 3 games. Wow. Before we got Moran I could see why we’d want to try him again on loan. After that nah. Why? Because of his performance v Middlesbrough reserves? If Moran turns out to be not as good as that match seemed to indicate we could have done with a second choice seeing as a midfield player who can pass forward quickly is quite central to Schumacher's philosophy. Cundle proved he could for four matches against first choice teams. He also proved whenever he played that despite his small stature he was a feisty little player. Would have felt far more comfortable had we brought him in. As it stands I feel quite concerned about our midfield attacking options and feel that Junho or Koumas are going to be withdrawn from their attacking roles to play deeper. |
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Post by thischarmingmanc on Aug 31, 2024 10:32:09 GMT
Well you’ve got your way , premier league here we come and you were the first to predict it If we get promoted this season I will be the first to say I never predicted that 🤣 I think we’ve moved ourselves to an easy midtable finish now though. Much as I hate to i think i agree with one of our other posts that suggest we don't know with this squad, really unpredictable, it could go very well, it could fall to bits. The managers rolled the dice and gone with youth. We may get some very good or some very poor results, but its unlikely to be boring. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 31, 2024 10:32:38 GMT
How are we looking after the international break then?
Johansson
Tchamadeu
Phillips
Gibson
Bocat
Burger
Junho
Moran
Manhoef
Cannon
Koumas
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Post by thischarmingmanc on Aug 31, 2024 10:35:16 GMT
It was far from shoddy, took a while to get gong but he was central to our end of season pic up in form. You should judge loan players by how there time with the club finishes not how its starts. Well unless you are a strange person who gets to feel superior by slagging off stoke players on the internet, in that case you make you mind up that there shit on the first bad game they have, and talk utter BS about them whilst anyone will listen. 3 games. Wow. Before we got Moran I could see why we’d want to try him again on loan. After that nah. Because we need depth, the Moran/Cundle player is key to the way we will play under Schuey, and I wouldn't want to be one injury away from season over. id agree 4 million was to much but on loan yesterday after unloading 3 midfielders, may have been an ideal outcome. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 10:37:28 GMT
3 games. Wow. Before we got Moran I could see why we’d want to try him again on loan. After that nah. Because we need depth, the Moran/Cundle player is key to the way we will play under Schuey, and I wouldn't want to be one injury away from season over. id agree 4 million was to much but on loan yesterday after unloading 3 midfielders, may have been an ideal outcome. I’m someone who actually wants neither starting 🤣 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 10:41:06 GMT
How are we looking after the international break then? Johansson Tchamadeu Phillips Gibson Bocat Burger Junho Moran Manhoef Cannon Koumas Will Bae be left out? When is Lawal ready?  Out for 6 weeks when he signed apparently. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 31, 2024 10:41:21 GMT
How are we looking after the international break then? Johansson Tchamadeu Phillips Gibson Bocat Burger Junho Moran Manhoef Cannon Koumas I don't think Burger will be able to fill that deep role by himself. I think we are more likely to see him and Moran as box to box working in tandem with Junho more advanced. I am yet to be convinced that Junho can play that central role and am trying to think of a way of playing him and Million wide with just Burger/Lawal and Moran in midfield and am beginning to understand why Schumacher wants inverted full backs. I can't say that I can see either Junior especially or Bobcat being able to do that but we will definitely need to add numbers to our midfield at times. Perhaps Seko is seen as playing that fullback come midfielder role? |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 31, 2024 10:44:52 GMT
How are we looking after the international break then? Johansson Tchamadeu Phillips Gibson Bocat Burger Junho Moran Manhoef Cannon Koumas I don't think Burger will be able to fill that deep role by himself. I think we are more likely to see him and Moran as box to box working in tandem with Junho more advanced. I am yet to be convinced that Junho can play that central role and am trying to think of a way of playing him and Million wide with just Burger/Lawal and Moran in midfield and am beginning to understand why Schumacher wants inverted full backs. I can't say that I can see either Junior especially or Bobcat being able to do that but we will definitely need to add numbers to our midfield at times. Perhaps Seko is seen as playing that fullback come midfielder role? Yeh that midfield looks lightweight without Lawal, not that I know what kind of player he is. Have we definitely signed him as a midfielder? I genuinely don’t know 🤷🏻♂️ Edit: just realised I’m posting on the wrong thread |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 10:45:38 GMT
I don't think Burger will be able to fill that deep role by himself. I think we are more likely to see him and Moran as box to box working in tandem with Junho more advanced. I am yet to be convinced that Junho can play that central role and am trying to think of a way of playing him and Million wide with just Burger/Lawal and Moran in midfield and am beginning to understand why Schumacher wants inverted full backs. I can't say that I can see either Junior especially or Bobcat being able to do that but we will definitely need to add numbers to our midfield at times. Perhaps Seko is seen as playing that fullback come midfielder role? Yeh that midfield looks lightweight without Lawal, not that I know what kind of player he is. Have we definitely signed him as a midfielder? I genuinely don’t know 🤷🏻♂️ That’s where he has excelled, it would seem daft not to have done? |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 31, 2024 10:46:24 GMT
Yeh that midfield looks lightweight without Lawal, not that I know what kind of player he is. Have we definitely signed him as a midfielder? I genuinely don’t know 🤷🏻♂️ That’s where he has excelled, it would seem daft not to have done? Just don’t know a great deal about him other than he plays both positions |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 10:48:42 GMT
That’s where he has excelled, it would seem daft not to have done? Just don’t know a great deal about him other than he plays both positions His story seems that he started at the back and was ok. Adam moved him into midfield and he shone. So good cover if needed but I’d like to think we’d play him where he shone? |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 31, 2024 10:50:17 GMT
Just don’t know a great deal about him other than he plays both positions His story seems that he started at the back and was ok. Adam moved him into midfield and he shone. So good cover if needed but I’d like to think we’d play him where he shone? Fair enough |
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 31, 2024 11:15:46 GMT
Yeh that midfield looks lightweight without Lawal, not that I know what kind of player he is. Have we definitely signed him as a midfielder? I genuinely don’t know 🤷🏻♂️ That’s where he has excelled, it would seem daft not to have done? Yes but has he ever played inverted full back? Perhaps he'll be able to play the role of full back who joins the midfield because otherwise I can see us completely overrun numerically with just two midfielders. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 11:18:18 GMT
That’s where he has excelled, it would seem daft not to have done? Yes but has he ever played inverted full back? Perhaps he'll be able to play the role of full back who joins the midfield because otherwise I can see us completely overrun numerically with just two midfielders. We play with 3 midfielders. |
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Post by lordb on Aug 31, 2024 11:21:49 GMT
Just don’t know a great deal about him other than he plays both positions His story seems that he started at the back and was ok. Adam moved him into midfield and he shone. So good cover if needed but I’d like to think we’d play him where he shone? You'd think so He'll probably drop into CB or even RB during games as and when required |
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 31, 2024 13:04:30 GMT
Yes but has he ever played inverted full back? Perhaps he'll be able to play the role of full back who joins the midfield because otherwise I can see us completely overrun numerically with just two midfielders. We play with 3 midfielders. Who? He's got to play Cannon, Koumas, Million and Bae which only leaves two places in midfield. Bae may be able to play an attacking number 10 but he can't be asked to help out in midfield unless he plays wide which means Koumas has to play the striker/midfielder role which negates his strengths. No I think we will see far more of the inverted fullbacks helping midfield. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 31, 2024 23:51:47 GMT
Because we need depth, the Moran/Cundle player is key to the way we will play under Schuey, and I wouldn't want to be one injury away from season over. id agree 4 million was to much but on loan yesterday after unloading 3 midfielders, may have been an ideal outcome. I’m someone who actually wants neither starting 🤣 Why don't you want Moran starting, what are you basing that on? |
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Post by senojbor on Sept 1, 2024 0:02:43 GMT
Cundle is a Wolves' bitch who has to do as he's told while under contract.
I've no doubt Luke would have loved to come back to us but his club has the final say.
My advice to Luke would be to run down your contract and leave on a free and come to us
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 1, 2024 9:58:47 GMT
I’m someone who actually wants neither starting 🤣 Why don't you want Moran starting, what are you basing that on? I’d rather we play 4231 and he doesn’t get into that imo |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 1, 2024 10:46:06 GMT
Why don't you want Moran starting, what are you basing that on? I’d rather we play 4231 and he doesn’t get into that imo But how many games have you actually seen him play? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 1, 2024 10:48:57 GMT
I’d rather we play 4231 and he doesn’t get into that imo But how many games have you actually seen him play? One but that doesn’t matter I want Junho there over a loanee. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 1, 2024 10:50:03 GMT
But how many games have you actually seen him play? One but that doesn’t matter I want Junho there over a loanee. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 1, 2024 10:50:42 GMT
One but that doesn’t matter I want Junho there over a loanee. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 It could be Messi on loan and it wouldn’t be a different answer 🤷♂️🤣 |
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Post by lordb on Sept 1, 2024 10:53:45 GMT
Junho not started the season that well imo
That's OK he's had an injury and absolutely no doubt he's quality
However there is a doubt (& that's all it is atm)
re him playing centrally as he's not firing yet
Certainly looked instantly happier moving to the left yesterday
Should that continue then Cundle in January becomes a stronger case
Conversely if Junho does start to flourish centrally then the reverse is true
Let's see
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 1, 2024 10:55:05 GMT
But how many games have you actually seen him play? One but that doesn’t matter I want Junho there over a loanee. But what if he's the next Zidane, who could shoot us to the top of the table? Just to make the point hypothetically, are you suggesting that if we could have Phil Foden on loan for the season, you would prefer Junho to start ahead of him? |
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Post by werrington on Sept 1, 2024 10:57:14 GMT
One but that doesn’t matter I want Junho there over a loanee. But what if he's the next Zidane, who could shoot us to the top of the table? Just to make the point hypothetically, are you suggesting that if we could have Phil Foden on loan for the season, you would prefer Junho to start ahead of him? The irony is Paul ( on another thread ) he’s advocating sending Anderson out on loan to aid his and our progress I’m confused 😕 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 1, 2024 10:59:04 GMT
But what if he's the next Zidane, who could shoot us to the top of the table? Just to make the point hypothetically, are you suggesting that if we could have Phil Foden on loan for the season, you would prefer Junho to start ahead of him? The irony is Paul ( on another thread ) he’s advocating sending Anderson out on loan to aid his and our progress I’m confused 😕 Dixon. Why are you confused 🤣 It’s called being hypocritical, having your cake and eating it, whatever you want to call it. |
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Post by werrington on Sept 1, 2024 10:59:49 GMT
The irony is Paul ( on another thread ) he’s advocating sending Anderson out on loan to aid his and our progress I’m confused 😕 Dixon. Why are you confused 🤣 It’s called being hypocritical, having your cake and eating it, whatever you want to call it. See you’ve started affecting my memory 🙃 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 1, 2024 10:59:58 GMT
One but that doesn’t matter I want Junho there over a loanee. But what if he's the next Zidane, who could shoot us to the top of the table? Just to make the point hypothetically, are you suggesting that if we could have Phil Foden on loan for the season, you would prefer Junho to start ahead of him? I couldn’t give a shit, he’s a loanee. And yes. You don’t get loanees for where your better players already play. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 1, 2024 11:01:09 GMT
It could be Messi on loan and it wouldn’t be a different answer 🤷♂️🤣 🤣🤣🤣 |
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