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Post by Trouserdog on Aug 31, 2024 6:32:45 GMT
He did well (eventually) last season, but I don't see where he would have fit in. Hopefully Burger and Lawal will be the 2 in a 4-2-3-1 with Seko, Thompson, Sidibe and Pearson providing ample cover. Junho and Moran are likely to play most of the games in the CAM spot. We don’t play 4231? Hence the word 'Hopefully' We play every formation known to man. Usually in the same game.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 6:35:05 GMT
Hence the word 'Hopefully' We play every formation known to man. Usually in the same game. He will surely just go back to the 433? Obviously I hope he goes 4231 and we see Manhoef Junho Koumas Cannon But that’s far too attacking for him.
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Aug 31, 2024 6:57:46 GMT
He did well (eventually) last season, but I don't see where he would have fit in. Hopefully Burger and Lawal will be the 2 in a 4-2-3-1 with Seko, Thompson, Sidibe and Pearson providing ample cover. Junho and Moran are likely to play most of the games in the CAM spot. We don’t play 4231? We don’t but I think we’ll be playing with one of the 3 in a more attacking role.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 7:03:29 GMT
We don’t but I think we’ll be playing with one of the 3 in a more attacking role. It’s more attacking but it still starts deeper. And tbh that suited Cundle more. When he played as a more of a 10 he couldn’t do it. He went deeper and it gave him more space to run and pass into. Moran looks the same. And tbh if he’s on the 433 then that’s fine. He looks decent and like he should make that spot his own.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 31, 2024 7:20:34 GMT
We don’t but I think we’ll be playing with one of the 3 in a more attacking role. Juno is absolutely not a 8 ot a 10 he doesn’t have the game understanding you could see he was totally lost v wba in that role as he was when we tried it last season , disappointing we didn’t get cundle or indeed hooever from wolves real shame on both
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Post by sealion100 on Aug 31, 2024 7:35:04 GMT
Very rarely do I feel for footy players but , in this case, I do … It’s clear that , both him and Hoever would have returned , other than Wolves placing stupid valuations on players heads , I was glad Stoke weren’t held to ransom in this case , but the lad obviously wanted to come here and play football
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 31, 2024 7:36:26 GMT
Very rarely do I feel for footy players but , in this case, I do … It’s clear that , both him and Hoever would have returned , other than Wolves placing stupid valuations on players heads , I was glad Stoke weren’t held to ransom in this case , but the lad obviously wanted to come here and play football He wouldn't have been guaranteed football here
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Post by lordb on Aug 31, 2024 7:37:22 GMT
Very rarely do I feel for footy players but , in this case, I do … It’s clear that , both him and Hoever would have returned , other than Wolves placing stupid valuations on players heads , I was glad Stoke weren’t held to ransom in this case , but the lad obviously wanted to come here and play football He wouldn't have been guaranteed football here No but he'd be first choice
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 31, 2024 7:38:56 GMT
Very rarely do I feel for footy players but , in this case, I do … It’s clear that , both him and Hoever would have returned , other than Wolves placing stupid valuations on players heads , I was glad Stoke weren’t held to ransom in this case , but the lad obviously wanted to come here and play football He wouldn't have been guaranteed football here Neither are any of the other players (or shouldn’t be)
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 7:39:43 GMT
He wouldn't have been guaranteed football here No but he'd be first choice Cundle would? Over Moran? That would be silly.
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Post by stokefanone on Aug 31, 2024 7:41:45 GMT
He wouldn't have been guaranteed football here No but he'd be first choice 😂😂
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Post by bagnallboothen on Aug 31, 2024 7:42:22 GMT
No but he'd be first choice Cundle would? Over Moran? That would be silly. If Wolves valuation of Cundle was reasonable we probably wouldn't have signed Moran.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 7:44:59 GMT
Cundle would? Over Moran? That would be silly. If Wolves valuation of Cundle was reasonable we probably wouldn't have signed Moran. We shouldn’t have been wanting to buy Cundle after his shoddy loan last season.
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 31, 2024 7:47:52 GMT
He wouldn't have been guaranteed football here No but he'd be first choice Maybe he would have been but he would have had healthy competition who could well take that place and keep it from him. I like Cundle, the goal against Sheffield Wednesday proved he has some quality. I would have liked us to have him here on a permanent deal as he was still improving and has a lot more to offer. Maybe we get him in January when his price may drop
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Post by bagnallboothen on Aug 31, 2024 8:03:25 GMT
If Wolves valuation of Cundle was reasonable we probably wouldn't have signed Moran. We shouldn’t have been wanting to buy Cundle after his shoddy loan last season. We need some continuity. I'm hoping now the average age of the squad is early 20s we might get it, that said there's still multiple loans we'll lose. Next summer could well see another 8 signings, it's mad.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 8:05:39 GMT
We shouldn’t have been wanting to buy Cundle after his shoddy loan last season. We need some continuity. I'm hoping now the average age of the squad is early 20s we might get it, that said there's still multiple loans we'll lose. Next summer could well see another 8 signings, it's mad. But not Cundle, he was crap overall. That’s just the Football League isn’t it? It has a high churn of players. It would be nice to get a centre half though that we want to keep. We’ve not had one in a while. Hopefully Gibson can be that one.
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Post by thischarmingmanc on Aug 31, 2024 9:17:59 GMT
It was far from shoddy, took a while to get gong but he was central to our end of season pic up in form. You should judge loan players by how there time with the club finishes not how its starts. Well unless you are a strange person who gets to feel superior by slagging off stoke players on the internet, in that case you make you mind up that there shit on the first bad game they have, and talk utter BS about them whilst anyone will listen. If Wolves valuation of Cundle was reasonable we probably wouldn't have signed Moran. We shouldn’t have been wanting to buy Cundle after his shoddy loan last season.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 9:23:17 GMT
It was far from shoddy, took a while to get gong but he was central to our end of season pic up in form. You should judge loan players by how there time with the club finishes not how its starts. Well unless you are a strange person who gets to feel superior by slagging off stoke players on the internet, in that case you make you mind up that there shit on the first bad game they have, and talk utter BS about them whilst anyone will listen. We shouldn’t have been wanting to buy Cundle after his shoddy loan last season. 3 games. Wow. Before we got Moran I could see why we’d want to try him again on loan. After that nah.
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Post by headsgoup on Aug 31, 2024 9:26:21 GMT
Hence the word 'Hopefully' We play every formation known to man. Usually in the same game. He will surely just go back to the 433? Obviously I hope he goes 4231 and we see Manhoef Junho Koumas Cannon But that’s far too attacking for him. I think 4231 would just encourage more of this full back nonsense Schumacher seems to enjoy, so exciting as that is I'd rather him just play 433 and tell his full backs to stay at home. We should sweep a lot of the division aside with our front six now.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 9:28:13 GMT
He will surely just go back to the 433? Obviously I hope he goes 4231 and we see Manhoef Junho Koumas Cannon But that’s far too attacking for him. I think 4231 would just encourage more of this full back nonsense Schumacher seems to enjoy, so exciting as that is I'd rather him just play 433 and tell his full backs to stay at home. We should sweep a lot of the division aside with our front six now. Possibly. You’d hope he will just realise he’s being an overthinking tit sooner rather than later though and bin it off? However, that he’s gone back to it is worrying enough.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 31, 2024 9:32:47 GMT
If Wolves valuation of Cundle was reasonable we probably wouldn't have signed Moran. We shouldn’t have been wanting to buy Cundle after his shoddy loan last season. He played well towards the end of the season and was a major factor in us staying up. Early doors he wasn't great.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 9:37:24 GMT
We shouldn’t have been wanting to buy Cundle after his shoddy loan last season. He played well towards the end of the season and was a major factor in us staying up. Early doors he wasn't great. He did and I could understand the argument to loan him again to see if that was fluke or not. He didn’t do enough to warrant to buy him for anything over a million anyway. Once Moran signed we didn’t need Cundle.
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Post by mattythestokie on Aug 31, 2024 9:42:57 GMT
Strange he didn’t have another move lined up. Won’t be getting anywhere near that Wolves team so a waste of 6months at least for him.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 31, 2024 9:48:43 GMT
If we don't get promoted I can't see us buying Moran, but Cundle would be realistic anyway. Right now we have Moran, Bae, Koumas fighting for two places if SS won't go for two attacking midfielders played with an anchor in a midfield 3. If so one of Burger or Lawal will miss out unless Lawal is played at right back. Luxery problem anyway!
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 31, 2024 9:55:08 GMT
If we don't get promoted I can't see us buying Moran, but Cundle would be realistic anyway. Right now we have Moran, Bae, Koumas fighting for two places if SS won't go for two attacking midfielders played with an anchor in a midfield 3. If so one of Burger or Lawal will miss out unless Lawal is played at right back. Luxery problem anyway! Koumas doesn't play as an attacking central midfielder.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 31, 2024 10:20:17 GMT
If we don't get promoted I can't see us buying Moran, but Cundle would be realistic anyway. Right now we have Moran, Bae, Koumas fighting for two places if SS won't go for two attacking midfielders played with an anchor in a midfield 3. If so one of Burger or Lawal will miss out unless Lawal is played at right back. Luxery problem anyway! Koumas doesn't play as an attacking central midfielder. I know, but him and Bae fighting it out for the left wing or Moran and Bae fighting it out for the attacking midfield role. Probably will only 2 out of 3 play most games?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 31, 2024 10:21:50 GMT
If Wolves valuation of Cundle was reasonable we probably wouldn't have signed Moran. We shouldn’t have been wanting to buy Cundle after his shoddy loan last season. Well you’ve got your way , premier league here we come and you were the first to predict it
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 10:24:28 GMT
We shouldn’t have been wanting to buy Cundle after his shoddy loan last season. Well you’ve got your way , premier league here we come and you were the first to predict it If we get promoted this season I will be the first to say I never predicted that 🤣 I think we’ve moved ourselves to an easy midtable finish now though.
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Post by thischarmingmanc on Aug 31, 2024 10:29:54 GMT
so what happend here? Were we not actually in for him yesterday despite reports, did it fall down? Anyone know?
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 31, 2024 10:31:02 GMT
Well you’ve got your way , premier league here we come and you were the first to predict it If we get promoted this season I will be the first to say I never predicted that 🤣 I think we’ve moved ourselves to an easy midtable finish now though. I would be satisfied with a top 10 finish for once. That will at least mean progress!
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