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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Aug 18, 2024 11:01:19 GMT
Blackburn have to he favourites given the eustace connection and to hw fair they have started well too Eustace. Do a good job there. 1 more point than us. Small margins. |
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Post by telfordstokie on Aug 18, 2024 11:21:40 GMT
Anyone who thinks Stansfield is coming here needs to stay off the crack for a while. A choice between us, Blackburn and Brum is a fairly even race isn’t it? And you’d think we could offer decent wages. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 18, 2024 11:25:34 GMT
Eustace. Do a good job there. 1 more point than us. Small margins. Goals galore |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 18, 2024 11:28:12 GMT
1 more point than us. Small margins. Goals galore Signing forwards instead of a shit load of midfielders who'd have thought it?? |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 19, 2024 12:28:56 GMT
Would the say 6 million in fact be £1.5 million per year over a 4 year deal?
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Aug 19, 2024 12:37:35 GMT
Been around the world and I, I, I
I can't find a striker
I don't know when, I don't know why
Why they've gone away
And I don't know where they can be, my goalscorers
But I'm gonna find one...
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Post by callas12 on Aug 21, 2024 8:18:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2024 9:30:33 GMT
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Post by wonderwall on Aug 21, 2024 9:33:08 GMT
They have the funds 100% Blackburn don’t IMO. |
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Post by st3mark on Aug 21, 2024 9:43:49 GMT
Anyone who thinks Stansfield is coming here needs to stay off the crack for a while. A choice between us, Blackburn and Brum is a fairly even race isn’t it? And you’d think we could offer decent wages. I'd like to think so. But we probably have looked quite toxic to the outside world for some time. We can out finance Blackburn and are in the league above Birmingham so i'd hope to pip them. I'd be more worried about Hull. Players have visibly improved there recently which as a career choice would be appealing to a player. |
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Post by J-Roar on Aug 21, 2024 9:49:00 GMT
Far more likely than him going to Birmingham or Blackburn. Who else is in the mix for him that would have the money and be more attractive?? He's a good squad option for Fulham and they don't want to / don't need to sell him so if we wanted him we'd have to pay way over the odds and we don't have that type of money available. The Family must look at Fulham, Bournemouth, Palace and Brentford and think, Jesus - we are really shit at running a football club. |
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Post by callas12 on Aug 21, 2024 11:03:31 GMT
He's a good squad option for Fulham and they don't want to / don't need to sell him so if we wanted him we'd have to pay way over the odds and we don't have that type of money available. The Family must look at Fulham, Bournemouth, Palace and Brentford and think, Jesus - we are really shit at running a football club. I was watching the Brentford match at the weekend and they were discussing two recent signings they'd made and that the total for both was about £50mil & thought Omg. Think back to the Play Off Final at the Mil Stad & when we won and achieved promotion leaving them behind in L1, who'd have ever thought they'd be a time where Brentford would be holding their own in The Premier League and spending £50mil on a couple of players. & again, like you mention Brighton & Bournemouth, clubs who have risen from the depths of L2 to be self sufficient clubs operating well in the Premier League on and off the pitch! Run by models we could and should have been adopting. Even Luton have trodden this path and despite not remaining in the Premier League have still as a club been well run! I know football tends to move in cycles & who knows, it could well be the likes of Leyton Orient, Walsall & Gillingham who in 10yrs time could be the current day Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth's & living it up in the Premier League. The way things are going, despite our mass wealth and potential, I wouldn't be suprised to see us still floundering around the bottom half of the Championship! & nevermind the family thinking how crap they've ran our club, as fans we'll have witnessed the absolute destruction & carelessness of a club that was in a very good place and striving for the next better level, when it all got fluttered away, to where are today and have been since relegation, which kind of makes it harder to take 🫣 |
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Post by kerouac on Aug 21, 2024 11:21:52 GMT
The Family must look at Fulham, Bournemouth, Palace and Brentford and think, Jesus - we are really shit at running a football club. I was watching the Brentford match at the weekend and they were discussing two recent signings they'd made and that the total for both was about £50mil & thought Omg. Think back to the Play Off Final at the Mil Stad & when we won and achieved promotion leaving them behind in L1, who'd have ever thought they'd be a time where Brentford would be holding their own in The Premier League and spending £50mil on a couple of players. & again, like you mention Brighton & Bournemouth, clubs who have risen from the depths of L2 to be self sufficient clubs operating well in the Premier League on and off the pitch! Run by models we could and should have been adopting. Even Luton have trodden this path and despite not remaining in the Premier League have still as a club been well run! I know football tends to move in cycles & who knows, it could well be the likes of Leyton Orient, Walsall & Gillingham who in 10yrs time could be the current day Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth's & living it up in the Premier League. The way things are going, despite our mass wealth and potential, I wouldn't be suprised to see us still floundering around the bottom half of the Championship! & nevermind the family thinking how crap they've ran our club, as fans we'll have witnessed the absolute destruction & carelessness of a club that was in a very good place and striving for the next better level, when it all got fluttered away, to where are today and have been since relegation, which kind of makes it harder to take 🫣 Very well said and it mirrors my thoughts on our downfall perfectly. Everything was in place when we were in the Prem,just a bit of planning and forethought instead of the “meat and two veg” approach that we adopted could have possibly put us in the Brighton and Brentford mould. It makes me so fuckng angry when I think of it…what a wasted opportunity. |
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Post by chad on Aug 21, 2024 11:32:44 GMT
I was watching the Brentford match at the weekend and they were discussing two recent signings they'd made and that the total for both was about £50mil & thought Omg. Think back to the Play Off Final at the Mil Stad & when we won and achieved promotion leaving them behind in L1, who'd have ever thought they'd be a time where Brentford would be holding their own in The Premier League and spending £50mil on a couple of players. & again, like you mention Brighton & Bournemouth, clubs who have risen from the depths of L2 to be self sufficient clubs operating well in the Premier League on and off the pitch! Run by models we could and should have been adopting. Even Luton have trodden this path and despite not remaining in the Premier League have still as a club been well run! I know football tends to move in cycles & who knows, it could well be the likes of Leyton Orient, Walsall & Gillingham who in 10yrs time could be the current day Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth's & living it up in the Premier League. The way things are going, despite our mass wealth and potential, I wouldn't be suprised to see us still floundering around the bottom half of the Championship! & nevermind the family thinking how crap they've ran our club, as fans we'll have witnessed the absolute destruction & carelessness of a club that was in a very good place and striving for the next better level, when it all got fluttered away, to where are today and have been since relegation, which kind of makes it harder to take 🫣 Very well said and it mirrors my thoughts on our downfall perfectly. Everything was in place when we were in the Prem,just a bit of planning and forethought instead of the “meat and two veg” approach that we adopted could have possibly put us in the Brighton and Brentford mould. It makes me so fuckng angry when I think of it…what a wasted opportunity. Yes in principal you’re right. But we lasted 10 years at the top level. Non of these clubs have done that (yet) |
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Post by LGH87 on Aug 21, 2024 11:33:39 GMT
I was watching the Brentford match at the weekend and they were discussing two recent signings they'd made and that the total for both was about £50mil & thought Omg. Think back to the Play Off Final at the Mil Stad & when we won and achieved promotion leaving them behind in L1, who'd have ever thought they'd be a time where Brentford would be holding their own in The Premier League and spending £50mil on a couple of players. & again, like you mention Brighton & Bournemouth, clubs who have risen from the depths of L2 to be self sufficient clubs operating well in the Premier League on and off the pitch! Run by models we could and should have been adopting. Even Luton have trodden this path and despite not remaining in the Premier League have still as a club been well run! I know football tends to move in cycles & who knows, it could well be the likes of Leyton Orient, Walsall & Gillingham who in 10yrs time could be the current day Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth's & living it up in the Premier League. The way things are going, despite our mass wealth and potential, I wouldn't be suprised to see us still floundering around the bottom half of the Championship! & nevermind the family thinking how crap they've ran our club, as fans we'll have witnessed the absolute destruction & carelessness of a club that was in a very good place and striving for the next better level, when it all got fluttered away, to where are today and have been since relegation, which kind of makes it harder to take 🫣 Very well said and it mirrors my thoughts on our downfall perfectly. Everything was in place when we were in the Prem,just a bit of planning and forethought instead of the “meat and two veg” approach that we adopted could have possibly put us in the Brighton and Brentford mould. It makes me so fuckng angry when I think of it…what a wasted opportunity. They never spent proper money on a Striker and we paid the price. As well as repeatedly handing out new contracts to players over the age of 30 who needed to be moved on gradually, to the point where they all left at once and the replacements were fucking wank. |
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Post by rowleyscfc on Aug 21, 2024 11:37:48 GMT
I was watching the Brentford match at the weekend and they were discussing two recent signings they'd made and that the total for both was about £50mil & thought Omg. Think back to the Play Off Final at the Mil Stad & when we won and achieved promotion leaving them behind in L1, who'd have ever thought they'd be a time where Brentford would be holding their own in The Premier League and spending £50mil on a couple of players. & again, like you mention Brighton & Bournemouth, clubs who have risen from the depths of L2 to be self sufficient clubs operating well in the Premier League on and off the pitch! Run by models we could and should have been adopting. Even Luton have trodden this path and despite not remaining in the Premier League have still as a club been well run! I know football tends to move in cycles & who knows, it could well be the likes of Leyton Orient, Walsall & Gillingham who in 10yrs time could be the current day Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth's & living it up in the Premier League. The way things are going, despite our mass wealth and potential, I wouldn't be suprised to see us still floundering around the bottom half of the Championship! & nevermind the family thinking how crap they've ran our club, as fans we'll have witnessed the absolute destruction & carelessness of a club that was in a very good place and striving for the next better level, when it all got fluttered away, to where are today and have been since relegation, which kind of makes it harder to take 🫣 Very well said and it mirrors my thoughts on our downfall perfectly. Everything was in place when we were in the Prem,just a bit of planning and forethought instead of the “meat and two veg” approach that we adopted could have possibly put us in the Brighton and Brentford mould. It makes me so fuckng angry when I think of it…what a wasted opportunity. It was the summer after we had beat Liverpool 6-1, our best players were sold. That wasn't the issue we get no where near enough for them, Bego and N'Zonzi. The goal should of been to become challenging for Europe consistently. The way the prem/football in general is your set up to feed the clubs who are a bigger name/ pay the most. Brighton have done a hell of a job of replacing players, but it's only a matter of time until that luck of getting it right more often than not runs out. Your only ever 4 poor singings away from going down, as we found out. |
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 21, 2024 11:40:00 GMT
I was watching the Brentford match at the weekend and they were discussing two recent signings they'd made and that the total for both was about £50mil & thought Omg. Think back to the Play Off Final at the Mil Stad & when we won and achieved promotion leaving them behind in L1, who'd have ever thought they'd be a time where Brentford would be holding their own in The Premier League and spending £50mil on a couple of players. & again, like you mention Brighton & Bournemouth, clubs who have risen from the depths of L2 to be self sufficient clubs operating well in the Premier League on and off the pitch! Run by models we could and should have been adopting. Even Luton have trodden this path and despite not remaining in the Premier League have still as a club been well run! I know football tends to move in cycles & who knows, it could well be the likes of Leyton Orient, Walsall & Gillingham who in 10yrs time could be the current day Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth's & living it up in the Premier League. The way things are going, despite our mass wealth and potential, I wouldn't be suprised to see us still floundering around the bottom half of the Championship! & nevermind the family thinking how crap they've ran our club, as fans we'll have witnessed the absolute destruction & carelessness of a club that was in a very good place and striving for the next better level, when it all got fluttered away, to where are today and have been since relegation, which kind of makes it harder to take 🫣 Very well said and it mirrors my thoughts on our downfall perfectly. Everything was in place when we were in the Prem,just a bit of planning and forethought instead of the “meat and two veg” approach that we adopted could have possibly put us in the Brighton and Brentford mould. It makes me so fuckng angry when I think of it…what a wasted opportunity. Brighton are not self-sufficient in any sense, their owner is over £300 million in. Neither they or Brentford have been in the PL as long as we were yet |
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Post by LGH87 on Aug 21, 2024 11:42:49 GMT
Very well said and it mirrors my thoughts on our downfall perfectly. Everything was in place when we were in the Prem,just a bit of planning and forethought instead of the “meat and two veg” approach that we adopted could have possibly put us in the Brighton and Brentford mould. It makes me so fuckng angry when I think of it…what a wasted opportunity. It was the summer after we had beat Liverpool 6-1, our best players were sold. That wasn't the issue we get no where near enough for them, Bego and N'Zonzi. The goal should of been to become challenging for Europe consistently. The way the prem/football in general is your set up to feed the clubs who are a bigger name/ pay the most. Brighton have done a hell of a job of replacing players, but it's only a matter of time until that luck of getting it right more often than not runs out. Your only ever 4 poor singings away from going down, as we found out. We kept Glen Johnson who everyone could see was finished after he returned from that long term injury and released Bardsley who went on to play another 4 year or whatever in the Premier League at a good level of performance too. We let Whelan go and replaced him with Darren Fletcher  I'm not going to list them all but you get the gist. Brighton won't make those mistakes, Tony Bloom and his whole organisation are far too savvy for that. |
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Post by kerouac on Aug 21, 2024 11:54:12 GMT
Very well said and it mirrors my thoughts on our downfall perfectly. Everything was in place when we were in the Prem,just a bit of planning and forethought instead of the “meat and two veg” approach that we adopted could have possibly put us in the Brighton and Brentford mould. It makes me so fuckng angry when I think of it…what a wasted opportunity. Brighton are not self-sufficient in any sense, their owner is over £300 million in. Neither they or Brentford have been in the PL as long as we were yet Let’s face it,we had it all and fucked it up.. both will outlast our tenure in the Premier league Im pretty sure of that. We’ve proved that a bottomless pit of money if used incorrectly doesn’t guarantee success. |
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Post by J-Roar on Aug 21, 2024 12:16:21 GMT
Very well said and it mirrors my thoughts on our downfall perfectly. Everything was in place when we were in the Prem,just a bit of planning and forethought instead of the “meat and two veg” approach that we adopted could have possibly put us in the Brighton and Brentford mould. It makes me so fuckng angry when I think of it…what a wasted opportunity. Yes in principal you’re right. But we lasted 10 years at the top level. Non of these clubs have done that (yet) But look at the structures they've got in place. If they do come down it's unlikely they'll flounder about like we have. The 'front of house' approach which Pulis advocated was an absolute disaster in the long term. Every club under the top 6 is susceptible to a bad season - it really is how you react to it that shows how strong you are as a club. Not arrogantly saying you'll have a root and branch review, then doing fuck all, then allowing the overpaid CE to slime his way away to a PL admin job. |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 21, 2024 12:19:01 GMT
The Family must look at Fulham, Bournemouth, Palace and Brentford and think, Jesus - we are really shit at running a football club. I was watching the Brentford match at the weekend and they were discussing two recent signings they'd made and that the total for both was about £50mil & thought Omg. Think back to the Play Off Final at the Mil Stad & when we won and achieved promotion leaving them behind in L1, who'd have ever thought they'd be a time where Brentford would be holding their own in The Premier League and spending £50mil on a couple of players. & again, like you mention Brighton & Bournemouth, clubs who have risen from the depths of L2 to be self sufficient clubs operating well in the Premier League on and off the pitch! Run by models we could and should have been adopting. Even Luton have trodden this path and despite not remaining in the Premier League have still as a club been well run! I know football tends to move in cycles & who knows, it could well be the likes of Leyton Orient, Walsall & Gillingham who in 10yrs time could be the current day Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth's & living it up in the Premier League. The way things are going, despite our mass wealth and potential, I wouldn't be suprised to see us still floundering around the bottom half of the Championship! & nevermind the family thinking how crap they've ran our club, as fans we'll have witnessed the absolute destruction & carelessness of a club that was in a very good place and striving for the next better level, when it all got fluttered away, to where are today and have been since relegation, which kind of makes it harder to take 🫣 The Brentford's and Brighton's of this world aren't scared of failure. They take their profits on players and don't get scared off when inevitably some don't make it. I doubt very much their fans would be moaning their tits off if they'd signed quite a few Jokic's. |
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Post by J-Roar on Aug 21, 2024 12:19:11 GMT
Brighton are not self-sufficient in any sense, their owner is over £300 million in. Neither they or Brentford have been in the PL as long as we were yet Let’s face it,we had it all and fucked it up.. both will outlast our tenure in the Premier league Im pretty sure of that. We’ve proved that a bottomless pit of money if used incorrectly doesn’t guarantee success. We really didn't spend a bottomless pit of money. The Family could have done but didn't invest properly until the panic signings kicked in. The investment came in too late on shit like Berahino, N'Diaye, etc. There was no structure in place - just an ex Leek keeper. |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 21, 2024 12:27:37 GMT
N'Diaye(?sp) wasn't shit at all. A team who can't score goals and threatened with relegation spending circa £20M on a RB and a DM typifies the bonkers decisions this club seems to keep making but you can't hold that against a player who had just 1 really poor game for the club (Leeds under Rowett).
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Post by J-Roar on Aug 21, 2024 12:54:16 GMT
N'Diaye(?sp) wasn't shit at all. A team who can't score goals and threatened with relegation spending circa £20M on a RB and a DM typifies the bonkers decisions this club seems to keep making but you can't hold that against a player who had just 1 really poor game for the club (Leeds under Rowett). He wasn't worth £14m. So at the very least was shit value for money. |
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Post by anchorman on Aug 21, 2024 13:31:57 GMT
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Post by talentspotter on Aug 21, 2024 13:43:49 GMT
I had a Lada once. Managed to get 72 uphill. Trouble was I lived at 84.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 21, 2024 14:39:20 GMT
N'Diaye(?sp) wasn't shit at all. A team who can't score goals and threatened with relegation spending circa £20M on a RB and a DM typifies the bonkers decisions this club seems to keep making but you can't hold that against a player who had just 1 really poor game for the club (Leeds under Rowett). He wasn't worth £14m. So at the very least was shit value for money. We had far worse value for money. He just wasn't what was required. |
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Post by kerouac on Aug 21, 2024 16:27:23 GMT
Yes in principal you’re right. But we lasted 10 years at the top level. Non of these clubs have done that (yet) But look at the structures they've got in place. If they do come down it's unlikely they'll flounder about like we have. The 'front of house' approach which Pulis advocated was an absolute disaster in the long term. Every club under the top 6 is susceptible to a bad season - it really is how you react to it that shows how strong you are as a club. Not arrogantly saying you'll have a root and branch review, then doing fuck all, then allowing the overpaid CE to slime his way away to a PL admin job. You’re spot on….it was the reaction(non reaction) to relegation that fucked us. |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 21, 2024 16:31:25 GMT
Yes in principal you’re right. But we lasted 10 years at the top level. Non of these clubs have done that (yet) But look at the structures they've got in place. If they do come down it's unlikely they'll flounder about like we have. The 'front of house' approach which Pulis advocated was an absolute disaster in the long term. Every club under the top 6 is susceptible to a bad season - it really is how you react to it that shows how strong you are as a club. Not arrogantly saying you'll have a root and branch review, then doing fuck all, then allowing the overpaid CE to slime his way away to a PL admin job. I'm not sure that's sunk in yet with a really significant proportion of our fan base. |
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Post by UNKLE on Aug 21, 2024 16:46:01 GMT
The Family must look at Fulham, Bournemouth, Palace and Brentford and think, Jesus - we are really shit at running a football club. I was watching the Brentford match at the weekend and they were discussing two recent signings they'd made and that the total for both was about £50mil & thought Omg. Think back to the Play Off Final at the Mil Stad & when we won and achieved promotion leaving them behind in L1, who'd have ever thought they'd be a time where Brentford would be holding their own in The Premier League and spending £50mil on a couple of players. & again, like you mention Brighton & Bournemouth, clubs who have risen from the depths of L2 to be self sufficient clubs operating well in the Premier League on and off the pitch! Run by models we could and should have been adopting. Even Luton have trodden this path and despite not remaining in the Premier League have still as a club been well run! I know football tends to move in cycles & who knows, it could well be the likes of Leyton Orient, Walsall & Gillingham who in 10yrs time could be the current day Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth's & living it up in the Premier League. The way things are going, despite our mass wealth and potential, I wouldn't be suprised to see us still floundering around the bottom half of the Championship! & nevermind the family thinking how crap they've ran our club, as fans we'll have witnessed the absolute destruction & carelessness of a club that was in a very good place and striving for the next better level, when it all got fluttered away, to where are today and have been since relegation, which kind of makes it harder to take 🫣 Brentford are well run and have made some good solid signings over the years. Toney, Mhuemo, Henry, Wissa, Mee. You can add Collins and Carvalho to that. But they have also bought average players and their bench is not particularly strong. I think they’ll survive this year but they are a few injuries away from being a bottom 6 outfit and Thiago is out until Xmas. The main difference between us Brighton, Brentford, Bournemouth and Burnley etc are the parachute payments FFP and the vast chasm between Premier League income and that of the Championship. |
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