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Post by baconburger on Aug 18, 2024 8:04:50 GMT
If Blackburn sign this other forward (not Stansfield) they’ll have signed 4 forwards to replace Gallagher and Szmodics. They’d have the money for Stansfield, but surely they don’t need him? We need to go all out on this. Walters has already confirmed at the fans forum that we don't have that type of money to put down on a forward. His words, not mine so don't shoot the messenger. And how does that make any sense when we’ve spent around that amount on players? He actually used the figure of £8M but it still stands that if you spend that amount on a number of players it’s a choice you’ve made, you can’t then say you didn’t have the money. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 18, 2024 8:18:37 GMT
Blackburn have to he favourites given the eustace connection and to hw fair they have started well too
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Post by baconburger on Aug 18, 2024 8:25:08 GMT
Blackburn have to he favourites given the eustace connection and to hw fair they have started well too I’d be extremely surprised to see Blackburn spend £6M on a player and I’m well aware they’ve had money for szmodics. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 18, 2024 8:25:20 GMT
Anyone who thinks Stansfield is coming here needs to stay off the crack for a while.
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Post by wonderwall on Aug 18, 2024 8:25:45 GMT
Isn’t the old tax after the Venkeys?
That sammy money prob already earmarked to pay some soon coming bills.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 18, 2024 8:26:36 GMT
Blackburn have to he favourites given the eustace connection and to hw fair they have started well too I’d be extremely surprised to see Blackburn spend £6M on a player and I’m well aware they’ve had money for szmodics. Gallagher money too so its still 5 or 6 m net profit |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 18, 2024 8:28:00 GMT
Did he? Fair enough then. I also suggested this due to FFP but was shot down by certain posters. Let’s hope Walters was fibbing as we need to do our best to make this one work. If it includes selling Bae, Burger, Wilmot or AN other asset then so be it. He actually used the figure 8M that was assigned to Ellis Simms and name checked him, so you'd think that would also apply to a Stansfield from a PL club too. I'm confused. All of the sums point to us having a bit to play with and the owner has said they'll invest right up to the allowed loss. Something doesn't add up to me but maths was never my strong point... It doesn’t add up at all. I’m pretty sure we could do the £6M no problem. |
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Post by premieraj on Aug 18, 2024 8:29:13 GMT
Anyone who thinks Stansfield is coming here needs to stay off the crack for a while. Why are you so sure? Or is it just a guess? Maybe he doesn’t want to come to Stoke at all? |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 18, 2024 8:29:50 GMT
I’d be extremely surprised to see Blackburn spend £6M on a player and I’m well aware they’ve had money for szmodics. Gallagher money too so its still 5 or 6 m net profit They have already spent a chunk of it and I doubt very much their owners will spend much of what’s left. |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 18, 2024 8:32:32 GMT
Anyone who thinks Stansfield is coming here needs to stay off the crack for a while. Far more likely than him going to Birmingham or Blackburn. Who else is in the mix for him that would have the money and be more attractive?? |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 18, 2024 8:38:01 GMT
Sell Wilmot for 4 mil, get a loan CB and use the funds for Stansfield We'd still be light, we need a CB without selling Wilmot . |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 18, 2024 8:40:01 GMT
Sell Wilmot for 4 mil, get a loan CB and use the funds for Stansfield We'd still be light, we need a CB without selling Wilmot . We have 4 senior players who are comfortable playing CB and two youngsters we’re trying to integrate anymore would be overkill. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 18, 2024 9:36:05 GMT
We'd still be light, we need a CB without selling Wilmot . We have 4 senior players who are comfortable playing CB and two youngsters we’re trying to integrate anymore would be overkill. Comfortable and being good enough are two different things. We needed an upgrade on Wilmot anyway and move him as back up so if he leaves we'd still need another. |
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Post by thornestein on Aug 18, 2024 9:37:26 GMT
We have 4 senior players who are comfortable playing CB and two youngsters we’re trying to integrate anymore would be overkill. Comfortable and being good enough are two different things. We needed an upgrade on Wilmot anyway and move him as back up so if he leaves we'd still need another. agreed |
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Post by wakeypotter on Aug 18, 2024 9:40:54 GMT
We'd still be light, we need a CB without selling Wilmot . We have 4 senior players who are comfortable playing CB and two youngsters we’re trying to integrate anymore would be overkill. None of the centre half’s we have at the club are nowhere near commanding enough. |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 18, 2024 9:44:04 GMT
We have 4 senior players who are comfortable playing CB and two youngsters we’re trying to integrate anymore would be overkill. Comfortable and being good enough are two different things. We needed an upgrade on Wilmot anyway and move him as back up so if he leaves we'd still need another. The CB pairing have been absolutely fine so far. Then we have Lawal who’s original position was CB and Rose to come back from injury, plus Dixon and Anderson buy another CB and they never get near the pitch. Not quite sure that’s how we managed to convince Dixon to sign terms. Why you’d have such a hang up about him getting minimal minutes I’ve no idea, he certainly doesn’t look like a liability. |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 18, 2024 9:47:05 GMT
We have 4 senior players who are comfortable playing CB and two youngsters we’re trying to integrate anymore would be overkill. None of the centre half’s we have at the club are nowhere near commanding enough. Strange because they’re not losing their battles. I think maybe you just have a very fixed view of what a CB should look like and what their game should be. They’re a dying breed managers and HC’s don’t want them. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 18, 2024 9:49:45 GMT
This conversation seems to be lacking one imo main thing.
Fulham seem to really want to keep him?
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Post by wakeypotter on Aug 18, 2024 9:50:33 GMT
Blackburn have to he favourites given the eustace connection and to hw fair they have started well too But to some starting well doesn’t help |
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Post by wakeypotter on Aug 18, 2024 9:52:18 GMT
None of the centre half’s we have at the club are nowhere near commanding enough. Strange because they’re not losing their battles. I think maybe you just have a very fixed view of what a CB should look like and what their game should be. They’re a dying breed managers and HC’s don’t want them. Correct call me old fashioned |
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Post by biglad180 on Aug 18, 2024 9:59:16 GMT
what we would give now for a jacob Brown 13 or 14 goal a season man for us ,ok people say he was a headless chicken but as i said 13 or 14 goals a season now we are pinning our hopes on a stansfield who we won,t get,and that lad only got 12 goals last season at birmingham
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 18, 2024 10:11:55 GMT
Anyone who thinks Stansfield is coming here needs to stay off the crack for a while. Far more likely than him going to Birmingham or Blackburn. Who else is in the mix for him that would have the money and be more attractive?? He's a good squad option for Fulham and they don't want to / don't need to sell him so if we wanted him we'd have to pay way over the odds and we don't have that type of money available. |
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Post by wakeypotter on Aug 18, 2024 10:14:57 GMT
Anyone who thinks Stansfield is coming here needs to stay off the crack for a while. It’s more hoping |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Aug 18, 2024 10:15:22 GMT
There must be some top youngsters / overseas players we can target.
You’d think Stansfield and Cannon were the only strikers in the world.
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Post by sportsman on Aug 18, 2024 10:24:03 GMT
There must be some top youngsters / overseas players we can target. You’d think Stansfield and Cannon were the only strikers in the world. And by the frenzy on here for both it’s a wonder why they’re not so great clubs wouldn’t want to keep them both. Can’t say I’ve noticed either of them so I can’t say either way, but I agree, there must be plenty out there around the world that would be easier to get hold of than these pair if we are at all in for them |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Aug 18, 2024 10:33:48 GMT
There must be some top youngsters / overseas players we can target. You’d think Stansfield and Cannon were the only strikers in the world. And by the frenzy on here for both it’s a wonder why they’re not so great clubs wouldn’t want to keep them both. Can’t say I’ve noticed either of them so I can’t say either way, but I agree, there must be plenty out there around the world that would be easier to get hold of than these pair if we are at all in for them The only thing I can say is to be still interested we must have had some encouragement from the selling club and the player. As we head into the final 2 weeks we have to push them for an answer as if it goes to deadline day (why does it have to?) we need a number of things to go our way for the signing to happen (selling club getting a replacement) which is a huge gamble and in my opinion one not worth taking when you look at who we’re left with if it falls through. Right now I can’t think of a worse pool of strikers in the division. Tezgel - to young and raw. Ennis - not shown anything to suggest he’s Champ standard Gallagher - a crock Mmaee - Probably the most capable but poor injury record and questionable character. 1 would be nice but ideally we need 2. |
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Post by banksy1art on Aug 18, 2024 10:35:07 GMT
Only 6m?? just do it stoke
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Post by yellowsnowman on Aug 18, 2024 10:36:23 GMT
Blackburn have to he favourites given the eustace connection and to hw fair they have started well too Eustace. Do a good job there. |
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Post by Timmy on Aug 18, 2024 10:37:26 GMT
And by the frenzy on here for both it’s a wonder why they’re not so great clubs wouldn’t want to keep them both. Can’t say I’ve noticed either of them so I can’t say either way, but I agree, there must be plenty out there around the world that would be easier to get hold of than these pair if we are at all in for them The only thing I can say is to be still interested we must have had some encouragement from the selling club and the player. As we head into the final 2 weeks we have to push them for an answer as if it goes to deadline day (why does it have to?) we need a number of things to go our way for the signing to happen (selling club getting a replacement) which is a huge gamble and in my opinion one not worth taking when you look at who we’re left with if it falls through. Right now I can’t think of a worse pool of strikers in the division. Tezgel - to young and raw. Ennis - not shown anything to suggest he’s Champ standard Gallagher - a crock Mmaee - Probably the most capable but poor injury record and questionable character. 1 would be nice but ideally we need 2. Worrying isn't it that our 1 credible striking option at this present time (not future prospect) was in the bomb squad for a period of time at the end of last season and has a poor injury record. Surely the management are trying as much as they possibly can to get a striker in who will actually improve our first 11. |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 18, 2024 10:55:16 GMT
Far more likely than him going to Birmingham or Blackburn. Who else is in the mix for him that would have the money and be more attractive?? He's a good squad option for Fulham and they don't want to / don't need to sell him so if we wanted him we'd have to pay way over the odds and we don't have that type of money available. He's been linked with various clubs including us for £6M. That's nowhere near over the odds in fact it's a surprising bargain and I'd be very surprised if we don't have that FFP headroom it's certainly not where the figures from the published accounts for the previous two years lead you. |
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