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Post by jzime on Aug 14, 2024 17:56:25 GMT
"I worked with some great people during my short time at Reading before joining Stoke, where I had the remit of making the squad more technical and recruiting young players. We signed players with top potential who can become real assets for the club in the next few seasons, the likes of Jun-Ho Bae from Daejeon Hana, Wouter Burger from Basel, and Million Manhoef from Vitesse. It's hard to argue with this and he'd be daft not to big up his credentials by mentioning it; football is a weird industry where people move around jobs (either through being sacked or through being headhunted and poached) a hell of a lot more than you would in equivalent jobs working in a more corporate industry. You've surely got to be a bit mentally resilient and prepared to advocate for yourself in order to land on your feet when you do get sacked. Somebody with his CV (and an American passport) could probably walk into any number of insight analytics or data analysis roles in the tech industry. That said, this could go either way from a Stoke perspective imho. It was a big call from Walters to sack him, and I'm not sure I'd have made the same decision given Dublin's success in the foreign market. But ultimately, none of us are privy to what has happened behind the scenes at Stoke and having a team where everybody is aligned in terms of the strategy going forward might end up being more important than any one cog in the wheel being good / not good at their job. I'm personally not thrilled that we've sacked Dublin to go in (what seems on paper) a more domestic direction with the transfer strategy. But we have to be realistic and admit that none of us have a very clear picture of what goes on behind the scenes of a professional football club with a transfer budget of millions of pounds a year. We've signed some decent players ourselves this summer, so let's just hope it goes well. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2024 20:40:46 GMT
"I worked with some great people during my short time at Reading before joining Stoke, where I had the remit of making the squad more technical and recruiting young players. We signed players with top potential who can become real assets for the club in the next few seasons, the likes of Jun-Ho Bae from Daejeon Hana, Wouter Burger from Basel, and Million Manhoef from Vitesse. The big thing there was the remit - and it ties in with the argument over who were his players and not. Quite bizarre to give him a remit of young and technical to then hand over to a manager who is more renowned for playing pragmatic type football with Championship experience - which is more evidence of just muddled thinking and no real plan. In terms of his remit he generally (Leris aside) bought in either young, technical or both - job done. Very interesting little snippet that. |
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 15, 2024 6:00:26 GMT
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 15, 2024 6:02:28 GMT
"I worked with some great people during my short time at Reading before joining Stoke, where I had the remit of making the squad more technical and recruiting young players. We signed players with top potential who can become real assets for the club in the next few seasons, the likes of Jun-Ho Bae from Daejeon Hana, Wouter Burger from Basel, and Million Manhoef from Vitesse. It's hard to argue with this and he'd be daft not to big up his credentials by mentioning it; football is a weird industry where people move around jobs (either through being sacked or through being headhunted and poached) a hell of a lot more than you would in equivalent jobs working in a more corporate industry. You've surely got to be a bit mentally resilient and prepared to advocate for yourself in order to land on your feet when you do get sacked. Somebody with his CV (and an American passport) could probably walk into any number of insight analytics or data analysis roles in the tech industry. That said, this could go either way from a Stoke perspective imho. It was a big call from Walters to sack him, and I'm not sure I'd have made the same decision given Dublin's success in the foreign market. But ultimately, none of us are privy to what has happened behind the scenes at Stoke and having a team where everybody is aligned in terms of the strategy going forward might end up being more important than any one cog in the wheel being good / not good at their job. I'm personally not thrilled that we've sacked Dublin to go in (what seems on paper) a more domestic direction with the transfer strategy. But we have to be realistic and admit that none of us have a very clear picture of what goes on behind the scenes of a professional football club with a transfer budget of millions of pounds a year. We've signed some decent players ourselves this summer, so let's just hope it goes well. There is a world where we could have kept both, I’m convinced |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 15, 2024 6:06:12 GMT
It could just be we saw how he worked, learned from his methods and thought we already have these skills within the club. His methods identify the player but it's the recruitment team, Mama et al, who give the footballing expertise yes or no?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2024 10:54:32 GMT
It could just be we saw how he worked, learned from his methods and thought we already have these skills within the club. His methods identify the player but it's the recruitment team, Mama et al, who give the footballing expertise yes or no? Can’t learn from someone who didn’t like to be at Clayton woods all that much! |
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Post by biglad180 on Aug 15, 2024 10:56:11 GMT
just wonder why no one asked the question at the fans forum why we let him go so early after joining us when players he bought in are our biggest assets
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2024 10:58:35 GMT
just wonder why no one asked the question at the fans forum why we let him go so early after joining us when players he bought in are our biggest assets Let’s just say he liked working from home |
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Post by themistocles on Aug 15, 2024 13:06:00 GMT
Could explain the mix up with Zambrano.
JD could've held discussions whilst Stoke HOR and now re-opened discussion now at Hull.
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Post by Abdoulaye25 on Aug 15, 2024 13:17:41 GMT
just wonder why no one asked the question at the fans forum why we let him go so early after joining us when players he bought in are our biggest assets Let’s just say he liked working from home He was successful in identifying talent which is the only relevant point, who cares if he used his laptop from an office, his home or a beach in Spain? |
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Post by mattador78 on Aug 15, 2024 13:38:46 GMT
Couldn’t give a fuck he’s no longer here. Move on and carry on. He’s not personally going around and watching these players a team of analysts look at stats and then probably send a scout or use that video thing they now all use. Manager identifies what he needs and based on data bids go in for players wherever they are in the world what match that criteria. He goes back to Ricky Martin and Alex Neil. Slates wiped clean and the managers got no one in with an agenda in the background.
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