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Post by werrington on Aug 8, 2024 11:32:36 GMT
Who cares where he goes really? I mean good luck to the guy but he's been built up as some kind of footballing oracle on this board.....  Not really, he's just a damn sight better than Lee friggin Darnbrough. How do you know that? |
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 8, 2024 11:32:36 GMT
It’s amazing how all of a sudden this bloke is a deemed a demi god It’s only a few months ago on this very mb many were saying the club needed a root and branch clear out of everybody involved at the club involving owners, manager and absolutely EVERYONE involved in our transfer structure Now it seems the same people are distraught it’s happened to the bloke overseeing it I mean fuck off eh It’s prime knicker wetting. Let’s not forget this is a Hull who controversially sacked Liam Rosenior. Rumours of an interfering owner who is too involved in team tactics and selection. But yeah they’re great. |
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 8, 2024 11:32:40 GMT
Who cares where he goes really? I mean good luck to the guy but he's been built up as some kind of footballing oracle on this board..... Not really, he's just a damn sight better than Lee friggin Darnbrough. Based on what? |
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Post by philb on Aug 8, 2024 11:33:01 GMT
I’m missing something here. Dublin and Neil had relatively free reign to produce a successful squad last summer and failed dismally and somehow Dublin comes out of it smelling of roses ? Yes but he’s a God (according to some on here) mainly because the new bloke has only signed a plodder in Gallagher (so far) |
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Post by Clem Fandango on Aug 8, 2024 11:33:29 GMT
Haha well good luck Hull you'll find none of his signings will pass the 'dna test' and they know fuck all about the league.
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Post by rowleyscfc on Aug 8, 2024 11:33:55 GMT
Were all of Jared's singings good? No
Has he unearthed some gems? Yes
Is Lee Darnbrough incapable of tempting a fat kid to eat a piece of cake? Probably
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 8, 2024 11:34:49 GMT
I’m missing something here. Dublin and Neil had relatively free reign to produce a successful squad last summer and failed dismally and somehow Dublin comes out of it smelling of roses ? We’ve got a couple of great players. But people forget the shite. Jojic seems unable to get anywhere near any team. That’s a great use of 1.3 million. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 8, 2024 11:35:10 GMT
Who cares where he goes really? I mean good luck to the guy but he's been built up as some kind of footballing oracle on this board..... Not really, he's just a damn sight better than Lee friggin Darnbrough. And you know this how? |
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 8, 2024 11:35:12 GMT
Livolant was a Jared target. We were rushing to sign him as we'd heard Jared was due to start a new job and would possibly be after him. It seems we are still relying on Jared's list of targets even after getting rid of him.
We have our own 30p Lee instead! LOL
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Post by Clem Fandango on Aug 8, 2024 11:35:46 GMT
Who cares where he goes really? I mean good luck to the guy but he's been built up as some kind of footballing oracle on this board..... It's a massive slap in the face when we've taken their HOR and he's so far managed to come up with Sam fucking Gallager. and apparently could deliver (checks notes) two blokes who were here on loan last season. |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 8, 2024 11:36:49 GMT
It’s amazing how all of a sudden this bloke is a deemed a demi god It’s only a few months ago on this very mb many were saying the club needed a root and branch clear out of everybody involved at the club involving owners, manager and absolutely EVERYONE involved in our transfer structure Now it seems the same people are distraught it’s happened to the bloke overseeing it I mean fuck off eh Not everyone slagged him off. It's clear as day he's delivered the only assets the club has had since relegation, in fact, we only had 3 or 4 assets the entire time we were in the Premier League. I consistently posted I was very happy with the recruitment model even at our very lowest point. How it was only given less than a year is bizarre but that's the type of thing you get with JC. |
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Post by idle on Aug 8, 2024 11:38:07 GMT
I’m missing something here. Dublin and Neil had relatively free reign to produce a successful squad last summer and failed dismally and somehow Dublin comes out of it smelling of roses ? We’ve got a couple of great players. But people forget the shite. Jojic seems unable to get anywhere near any team. That’s a great use of 1.3 million. Well, those 1.3M is peanuts whem Burger and Bae have had bids or are linked for £8M+ each. Those who think every signing should be a smash hit know nothing about football. |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 8, 2024 11:38:31 GMT
Not really, he's just a damn sight better than Lee friggin Darnbrough. Based on what? Perhaps maybe something to do with the players they've identified in their respective roles. What's your metric?? |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 8, 2024 11:38:34 GMT
I’m missing something here. Dublin and Neil had relatively free reign to produce a successful squad last summer and failed dismally and somehow Dublin comes out of it smelling of roses ? Yes but he’s a God (according to some on here) mainly because the new bloke has only signed a plodder in Gallagher (so far) Wheres all this god stuff suddenly come from 😂 It's pretty clear the concern is down to him picking our best signings from last season, it was a positive in a season (seasons) full of dross, it's not a surprise some think it was a strange move getting rid. |
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 8, 2024 11:39:11 GMT
Yes but he’s a God (according to some on here) mainly because the new bloke has only signed a plodder in Gallagher (so far) Wheres all this god stuff suddenly come from 😂 It's pretty clear it's down to him picking our best signings from last season, it was a positive in a season (seasons) full of dross, it's not a surprise some think it was a strange move getting rid. So the other 15 rubbing rags were down to someone else? |
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 8, 2024 11:40:18 GMT
It’s amazing how all of a sudden this bloke is a deemed a demi god It’s only a few months ago on this very mb many were saying the club needed a root and branch clear out of everybody involved at the club involving owners, manager and absolutely EVERYONE involved in our transfer structure Now it seems the same people are distraught it’s happened to the bloke overseeing it I mean fuck off eh He seems to have been responsible for a few good signings that we paid good money for and may get a very good return on - although none have yet. Jury out on Manhoef until he's been with us for a full season, Burger potentially likely to be profitable and you imagine only something horrific would stop Junho from making the step up. The flip side is that the players he identified cost a relative fortune - something in the region of £14,000,000 (!!!!) depending on your source - and left us with big holes in the spine of the team that were filled with manager-identified freebies/loans (Rose, McNally, Johnson, Stevens etc). This very expensively assembled squad came within a whisker of getting relegated. Personally, I'd have given him the benefit of the doubt, but I think there's a solid argument for having moved him on. Whether the right replacement was bought in is another matter. |
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 8, 2024 11:40:36 GMT
Brilliant news. Hopefully he might take some of the mountains of shit he signed for us off our hands.
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Post by wuzza on Aug 8, 2024 11:40:37 GMT
I’m missing something here. Dublin and Neil had relatively free reign to produce a successful squad last summer and failed dismally and somehow Dublin comes out of it smelling of roses ? We’ve got a couple of great players. But people forget the shite. Jojic seems unable to get anywhere near any team. That’s a great use of 1.3 million. The only thing I would quibble with is that I would say he produced one player who looks decent in the Championship and one who looks good with the potential to play at a higher level. When the brief was presumably to produce half a dozen or more players that could take the side into the top half of the league (at least) its hardly the work of a genius. |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Aug 8, 2024 11:43:39 GMT
Were all of Jared's singings good? No Has he unearthed some gems? Yes Is Lee Darnbrough incapable of tempting a fat kid to eat a piece of cake? Probably People seem to have a really unhealthy obsession with Jared on here. Does he deserve credit for the 3 possibly 4 decent signings..of course he does. But he also has made more that are duds (so far) i liked the man but he wasn't outstanding and he is no "god" like some on here seem to treat him. I was confused as anyone when he was sacked but things happen. Moved on...this transfer team will be judged after a fair amount of time like Jares did |
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 8, 2024 11:45:51 GMT
It will be interesting to see how he does there, if he starts unearthing some really talented players this message board will be interesting. We don't know everything and only assume some of the gems we have are down to him, he could be a flop for all we know. Good luck to him
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Post by rowleyscfc on Aug 8, 2024 11:46:25 GMT
Were all of Jared's singings good? No Has he unearthed some gems? Yes Is Lee Darnbrough incapable of tempting a fat kid to eat a piece of cake? Probably People seem to have a really unhealthy obsession with Jared on here. Does he deserve credit for the 3 possibly 4 decent signings..of course he does. But he also has made more that are duds (so far) i liked the man but he wasn't outstanding and he is no "god" like some on here seem to treat him. I was confused as anyone when he was sacked but things happen. Moved on...this transfer team will be judged after a fair amount of time like Jares did Tbf he's defo done the best business in term of what we get in return(money wise) But the truth is he was part of the transfer team that crafted a team that just scrapped past relegation. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 8, 2024 11:49:21 GMT
We’ve got a couple of great players. But people forget the shite. Jojic seems unable to get anywhere near any team. That’s a great use of 1.3 million. The only thing I would quibble with is that I would say he produced one player who looks decent in the Championship and one who looks good with the potential to play at a higher level. When the brief was presumably to produce half a dozen or more players that could take the side into the top half of the league (at least) its hardly the work of a genius. Completely agree. |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 8, 2024 11:49:49 GMT
It’s amazing how all of a sudden this bloke is a deemed a demi god It’s only a few months ago on this very mb many were saying the club needed a root and branch clear out of everybody involved at the club involving owners, manager and absolutely EVERYONE involved in our transfer structure Now it seems the same people are distraught it’s happened to the bloke overseeing it I mean fuck off eh He seems to have been responsible for a few good signings that we paid good money for and may get a very good return on - although none have yet. Jury out on Manhoef until he's been with us for a full season, Burger potentially likely to be profitable and you imagine only something horrific would stop Junho from making the step up. The flip side is that the players he identified cost a relative fortune - something in the region of £14,000,000 (!!!!) depending on your source - and left us with big holes in the spine of the team that were filled with manager-identified freebies/loans (Rose, McNally, Johnson, Stevens etc). This very expensively assembled squad came within a whisker of getting relegated. Personally, I'd have given him the benefit of the doubt, but I think there's a solid argument for having moved him on. Whether the right replacement was bought in is another matter. We must have been switched on as fuck to identify the holes and sign the players you mention to fill them, before we signed the players with the budget that left us unable to fill the gaps we were already sure would exist. Pure genius at work that. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2024 11:51:53 GMT
Amazing how simple and quick that battle lines are drawn and extremes come out even with a relatively simple and straightforward debate like this.
Nobody has said Jared is a god.
He was simply a front face to a brave new world we attempted to go down last summer where we ventured into Europe to try and get value for money, sign younger players with sell on value etc. He did that and in Manhoef, Burger and Bae he found 3 in the space of 12 months.
That level of relative success is highly unusual in the Championship, at the price point we paid for them and also given the fact we brought so many in at once.
If he was given the time to bed in and approach this window, where less players were needed I reckon you'd have seen similar success.
The club, to me, went down the wrong path by removing him and should have given the process more time to refine it, learn from the mistakes of last season and allowed to take root.
I think people are rightly pissed off at this news and it caps for me what has been so far on the face of it a very frustrating, if not retrograde summer.
Each to their own though.
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 8, 2024 11:52:07 GMT
We’ve got a couple of great players. But people forget the shite. Jojic seems unable to get anywhere near any team. That’s a great use of 1.3 million. Well, those 1.3M is peanuts whem Burger and Bae have had bids or are linked for £8M+ each. Those who think every signing should be a smash hit know nothing about football. And those who think Jared Dublin is the second coming of Damien Commoli know even less. |
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Aug 8, 2024 11:52:28 GMT
Not really, he's just a damn sight better than Lee friggin Darnbrough. And you know this how? Darnbrough’s transfers at Hull don’t exactly make for pretty reading |
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Aug 8, 2024 11:54:01 GMT
Not really, he's just a damn sight better than Lee friggin Darnbrough. How do you know that? As I’ve said, their records speak for themselves. |
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Post by LGH87 on Aug 8, 2024 11:54:32 GMT
It’s amazing how all of a sudden this bloke is a deemed a demi god It’s only a few months ago on this very mb many were saying the club needed a root and branch clear out of everybody involved at the club involving owners, manager and absolutely EVERYONE involved in our transfer structure Now it seems the same people are distraught it’s happened to the bloke overseeing it I mean fuck off eh He seems to have been responsible for a few good signings that we paid good money for and may get a very good return on - although none have yet. Jury out on Manhoef until he's been with us for a full season, Burger potentially likely to be profitable and you imagine only something horrific would stop Junho from making the step up. The flip side is that the players he identified cost a relative fortune - something in the region of £14,000,000 (!!!!) depending on your source - and left us with big holes in the spine of the team that were filled with manager-identified freebies/loans (Rose, McNally, Johnson, Stevens etc). This very expensively assembled squad came within a whisker of getting relegated. Personally, I'd have given him the benefit of the doubt, but I think there's a solid argument for having moved him on. Whether the right replacement was bought in is another matter. Don't forget it looks like Leris is being sold for 3x what we paid. Vidigal we'd more than likely at least get our money back too. Jojic is the only real failure but every successful model has them, look how many players Brighton have signed for £5m+ and have spent their time at the club on loan and then left for a lot less. You won't get it right every time but what he has done is almost guaranteed us an income of at least £30m from his first stab at it. We'll never know if he would've carried on with that type of profit but the signs were there. |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 8, 2024 11:56:02 GMT
Well, those 1.3M is peanuts whem Burger and Bae have had bids or are linked for £8M+ each. Those who think every signing should be a smash hit know nothing about football. And those who think Jared Dublin is the second coming of Damien Commoli know even less. Why how many potential gems did he identify in one season for an outlay of under £10M?? |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 8, 2024 11:56:26 GMT
Wheres all this god stuff suddenly come from 😂 It's pretty clear it's down to him picking our best signings from last season, it was a positive in a season (seasons) full of dross, it's not a surprise some think it was a strange move getting rid. So the other 15 rubbing rags were down to someone else? You can make a case for a decent chunk of them being others picks, Johnson for example clearly the managers choice. |
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