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Post by 36dd on Aug 10, 2024 18:25:45 GMT
Reference the fans walking out together, it’s always been like that at Stoke, and I have walked passed away supporters post match over the years. Especially when walking towards the incinerator etc.
Plus experienced unfortunate incidents with Hull fans when there was skirmishes.
So the risk is the same as ever and that’s why the club pay Staffordshire Police to monitor the matches. It seems they are have short term memory loss after singing a song, with a wooooooo on the end?
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Aug 10, 2024 18:32:37 GMT
Just watched the highlights now and as I keep saying like a stuck record the away fans seem tucked away and doesn't seem as many of them even though there was 3000. they seemed loud at time on my stream and looked decent in the corner , quite full Just how it seemed at the game mate. |
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Post by stantheman on Aug 10, 2024 18:36:23 GMT
Lovely to hear that they didn't enjoy their day out. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2024 18:39:08 GMT
Lovely to hear that they didn't enjoy their day out. I don't know what's funnier, the fact they hated it or how they can't work out why we were taking the mickey over that song. Thought it was pretty obvious! 🤣 |
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Aug 10, 2024 18:40:11 GMT
Lovely to hear that they didn't enjoy their day out. Even the pigeons are on board with the Schumacher sjw show 👍👍 Edit on a different post moaning about bird shit.. |
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Post by AlanHansen on Aug 10, 2024 19:02:49 GMT
Not bitter. That's the reality of the shit show that's been created. It will go berserk 2 or three times a season and kick off maybe a handful more. I'm sure at some point the club will either want to or be forced to give away fans their old compound back and create another couple of paths. |
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Post by AlanHansen on Aug 10, 2024 19:05:25 GMT
Reference the fans walking out together, it’s always been like that at Stoke, and I have walked passed away supporters post match over the years. Especially when walking towards the incinerator etc. Plus experienced unfortunate incidents with Hull fans when they was skirmishes. So the risk is the same as ever and that’s why the club pay Staffordshire Police to monitor the matches. It seems they are have short term memory loss after singing a song, with a wooooooo on the end? No you're completely wrong. The majority of away fans on some games never needed to leave the away compound. Now all 3k (today) get turfed out onto a busy road full of home fans. It's a disaster waiting to happen. |
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Aug 10, 2024 19:38:10 GMT
Not bitter. That's the reality of the shit show that's been created. It will go berserk 2 or three times a season and kick off maybe a handful more. I'm sure at some point the club will either want to or be forced to give away fans their old compound back and create another couple of paths. If they had of won it wouldn't be mentioned, there is loads of grounds where fans come our and mix together no doubt stoke will monitor the situation and if something new needs to be done it will, I was surprised myself that the coach compound wasn't kept the same as that was the original plan at the consultation but obviously something changed, also not every team will bring 3000 every week. |
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Aug 10, 2024 19:54:48 GMT
Not bitter. That's the reality of the shit show that's been created. It will go berserk 2 or three times a season and kick off maybe a handful more. I'm sure at some point the club will either want to or be forced to give away fans their old compound back and create another couple of paths. If they had of won it wouldn't be mentioned, there is loads of grounds where fans come our and mix together no doubt stoke will monitor the situation and if something new needs to be done it will, I was surprised myself that the coach compound wasn't kept the same as that was the original plan at the consultation but obviously something changed, also not every team will bring 3000 every week. You're absolutely spot on. They've had a wank day out and want to moan about anything. And I'm absolutely thrilled that the away fans haven't enjoyed their time at the ground. |
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Post by banksy1art on Aug 10, 2024 20:18:29 GMT
Not bitter. That's the reality of the shit show that's been created. It will go berserk 2 or three times a season and kick off maybe a handful more. I'm sure at some point the club will either want to or be forced to give away fans their old compound back and create another couple of paths. give over.. it’s not much different than last season and it’s the same at any other ground in the country. Surely fans can be trusted anyway? Nothing wrong with some banter and shouting. Police are there to deal swiftly with trouble but i hope the away fans hate it tbh ! |
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Post by wazbagsbro on Aug 10, 2024 20:28:55 GMT
New away end is going to be a big test next week as Coventry have sold out 3500 tickets.my concern is the segregation between both sets of fans is about 6foot wide on both sides which could be interesting never mind entrance and exit after the game Isn't it time to realise fans don't need to be segregated. It's not the 1980s. Obviously there will be some drunken set toos but I doubt it will be a riot. 3 or 4 idiots getting nicked. If the London clubs can open up their grounds we can |
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Post by RonnieStokie on Aug 10, 2024 23:52:56 GMT
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Post by GRUMPY 1 on Aug 11, 2024 20:07:38 GMT
The path up from the Satellite Ticket Office to the Banks statue/bus stops is always crowded after the match. There will now be twice as many people using it. I can't see that being a good idea. It was horrendous I only got about a quarter of the way up before turning around and chilling in the fanzone until it cleared. |
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Post by flea79 on Aug 12, 2024 8:13:57 GMT
I liked the standing and the view that was it
that concourse is a joke, especially in comparison to what we had before in the new corner that is now the away end, facilities are basically none existent, the lines for the food and drinks are in the way off people coming in and out from smoking or vice versa, it was exactly as i feared it would be and i do feel i have made a huge error having a seat in that area this year...
also bizarrely and not sure if anybody else noticed the acoustics were really strange in that area towards the back i could not hear what else was being sung round the ground
ahh well for those that love it cool but im still convinced the club have chucked us a bone to forget how shit we are on the pitch
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 12, 2024 8:29:13 GMT
I liked the standing and the view that was it that concourse is a joke, especially in comparison to what we had before in the new corner that is now the away end, facilities are basically none existent, the lines for the food and drinks are in the way off people coming in and out from smoking or vice versa, it was exactly as i feared it would be and i do feel i have made a huge error having a seat in that area this year... also bizarrely and not sure if anybody else noticed the acoustics were really strange in that area towards the back i could not hear what else was being sung round the ground ahh well for those that love it cool but im still convinced the club have chucked us a bone to forget how shit we are on the pitch Is there space to fix the concourse setup? I'd do standing for the atmosphere and it really sucks if that's not coming through. Both ends and the away corner sounded very good from block 17. |
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Post by Squeekster on Aug 12, 2024 8:33:34 GMT
I liked the standing and the view that was it that concourse is a joke, especially in comparison to what we had before in the new corner that is now the away end, facilities are basically none existent, the lines for the food and drinks are in the way off people coming in and out from smoking or vice versa, it was exactly as i feared it would be and i do feel i have made a huge error having a seat in that area this year... also bizarrely and not sure if anybody else noticed the acoustics were really strange in that area towards the back i could not hear what else was being sung round the ground ahh well for those that love it cool but im still convinced the club have chucked us a bone to forget how shit we are on the pitch Yes the seat and view were great, just in front of the police box but the rest I'd 100% agree with, also a ballache getting in! One plus point the bus we came on parks right outside our turn style! |
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Post by flea79 on Aug 12, 2024 8:34:20 GMT
I liked the standing and the view that was it that concourse is a joke, especially in comparison to what we had before in the new corner that is now the away end, facilities are basically none existent, the lines for the food and drinks are in the way off people coming in and out from smoking or vice versa, it was exactly as i feared it would be and i do feel i have made a huge error having a seat in that area this year... also bizarrely and not sure if anybody else noticed the acoustics were really strange in that area towards the back i could not hear what else was being sung round the ground ahh well for those that love it cool but im still convinced the club have chucked us a bone to forget how shit we are on the pitch Is there space to fix the concourse setup? I'd do standing for the atmosphere and it really sucks if that's not coming through. Both ends and the away corner sounded very good from block 17. without knocking it down and rebuilding it no there is no way of fixing it, i do take into account that the new corner is just that new and was subject to different planning laws and building regulations in relation to space and egress but its still galling that we have given this to the away fans and we have 3 urinals and 2 bogs now.... the sound was a weird one it was like it was baffled somehow and it just hit us and went dead, no echo, not sure if this was done on purpose in the original design to make the away fans sound quieter, very much doubt it but you never know |
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Aug 12, 2024 9:09:42 GMT
Is there space to fix the concourse setup? I'd do standing for the atmosphere and it really sucks if that's not coming through. Both ends and the away corner sounded very good from block 17. without knocking it down and rebuilding it no there is no way of fixing it, i do take into account that the new corner is just that new and was subject to different planning laws and building regulations in relation to space and egress but its still galling that we have given this to the away fans and we have 3 urinals and 2 bogs now.... the sound was a weird one it was like it was baffled somehow and it just hit us and went dead, no echo, not sure if this was done on purpose in the original design to make the away fans sound quieter, very much doubt it but you never know Pretty sure there is plans in hand for the toilet situation and food outlets etc think it was just timescales, Pretty sure there will be a fanzone that end as well next season and can deffo see the concourses being reconfigured so as more space, plenty of g4ass area and car park space to do something. As for the sound I think the closer you get to the gap between the stands the noise doesn't vibrate around as much, still enjoyed it though. |
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Post by rowleyscfc on Aug 12, 2024 9:55:02 GMT
God their forum is a lovely read isn't it.
Always good when they resort to classism because their football team lost a game, how emotional of them.
Like Stoke being a shithole is anyone who follows the clubs fault anyway? Coventry fans should know about when years of government neglect does to a city. It's happened to them as well.
Anyway, Wooooooo
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 12, 2024 9:55:49 GMT
Not the safe standing as such but a few things I noticed from Block 27:
1) Couldn't really hear Coventry, despite them being closer than the away fans used to be.
2) Getting out up the "ramp" behind the Tile Mountain was an absolute fucker. They need to widen that if they can. There was also a lot more traffic coming down the opposite way, presumably to get to the fan park. Very hectic.
3) Which meant getting off the car parks a complete arse, but I wasn't too bothered after we'd won and it was still only 3pm.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2024 10:05:12 GMT
Not the safe standing as such but a few things I noticed from Block 27: 1) Couldn't really hear Coventry, despite them being closer than the away fans used to be. 2) Getting out up the "ramp" behind the Tile Mountain was an absolute fucker. They need to widen that if they can. There was also a lot more traffic coming down the opposite way, presumably to get to the fan park. Very hectic. 3) Which meant getting off the car parks a complete arse, but I wasn't too bothered after we'd won and it was still only 3pm. Apparently, according to one sarcastic poster on here, it was only going to take an extra 5 minutes to walk up the bank? The club need to look at this immediately. It's an accident waiting to happen. |
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Post by nott1 on Aug 12, 2024 11:29:08 GMT
Tried it today Not for me tbh it's not terracing, it's just standing by your seat As I've said many times, I don't see any advantage over a seat! |
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Post by rowleyscfc on Aug 12, 2024 11:53:46 GMT
Tried it today Not for me tbh it's not terracing, it's just standing by your seat As I've said many times, I don't see any advantage over a seat! As someone who stands at home games anyway(Used to sit on the back row in the boothen). I preferred it a million times over, bar is sound to have a lean on. I'd choose standing at the football over sitting everyday of the week. |
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Post by Tom_stokiepmre89 on Aug 12, 2024 12:22:00 GMT
Tried it today Not for me tbh it's not terracing, it's just standing by your seat As I've said many times, I don't see any advantage over a seat! He’s not agreeing with you mate, he’s bemoaning that we can’t have traditional terracing again. |
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Post by Tom_stokiepmre89 on Aug 12, 2024 12:25:38 GMT
Reposting this from the other thread in the hopes it has a better chance of being seen by someone at the club
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Enjoyed it yesterday. Me and my mate have been standing in the south stand for a few years now, but it definitely makes a huge difference to comfort having the support-bar in front of you and not getting harassed by jumped up little jobsworths.
I do agree with the sentiment (maybe not seen on this thread) that there's 0 reason why traditional terracing shouldn't become a thing again. With modern ticketing technology + no fences/pens, if it's allowed in germany then it should be allowed here. If I was JC I'd be pushing for that; even if it takes a political battle to achieve. But obviously I'm not and, realistically, I think this is the best we're going to get. I'm not even sure if there's a push from the FSA for a return to traditional terracing.
It also helped massively being able to see the away fans to our right. I think it's a fantastic move overall that, IMO, will lead to more points gained even though that will be impossible to ever prove.
A few negatives though; the situation outside the turnstyles at about 12:10 was ridiculous. Without the intervention of the head steward telling the first line of stewards doing the searches and scans to speed it up, we wouldn't have made it in for KO and the queue was still huge behind us. People will have definitely missed KO. Hopefully just teething issues as the head steward assured us.
Also the queueing situation at HT for alcohol is still a clusterfuck. It's every man for himself and you basically have to be quite naturally disagreeable to have any chance of moving forward in the queue. Luckily my buddy is a little cunt and weaves his way forward in a manner that is alien to me. But if you go down to get a beer at HT you shouldn't only be getting served as the players are coming back out...
I think a few short-term solutions are available.
1. Get instant beer pumps installed as the bulk of waiting time is when people order a pint and they have to pour it.
2. Hire more staff! These kids are on min wage for a few hours every other weekend. It's surely not going to hurt the club to just overstaff 23 times a year rather than constantly be understaffed.
3. Install some railing system for the queue lines so it isn't an every man for himself situation that will surely lead to some incidents between fellow supporters...even yesterday there were some lads in the queue wondering how my mate had got so far forwards, and it did seem like it might turn nasty...
I'm not willing to go down early to get drinks as I did that vs Plymouth last season and missed about half of our total home goals...
Longterm I do believe that the concourses in many parts of the ground are showing why it was built so cheaply close to 30y ago now. I've been banging this drum for a while now but, if money is no issue in this regard, then I do believe we should rebuild parts of the stadium to bring them up to standard. But it's obviously easy for me to sit here and imagine how I would spend someone else's money...
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Post by lordb on Aug 12, 2024 12:28:17 GMT
Tried it today Not for me tbh it's not terracing, it's just standing by your seat As I've said many times, I don't see any advantage over a seat! the advantage with actual terracing is 1: price 2: freedom to move about 3: its warmer (I can explain this bit but you can work it out) the safe standing is safer than it was because in areas where vast majority were standing anyway (ie behind the goals) the barrier provides extra safety as I say this isn't for me but if it was actual terracing with no seats at all (& the price to go with it) would choose it , especially away from home if you want to sit down then there's 20000 seats to choose from |
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Post by thepottypotter on Aug 12, 2024 12:29:08 GMT
Tried it today Not for me tbh it's not terracing, it's just standing by your seat As I've said many times, I don't see any advantage over a seat! Glad there's the option for those that want it but I do hope it remains a limited option. There's more of a safety risk than with seats. It's less accessible for a variety of supporters - older people, disabled supporters and kids. Also as a kid where I used to stand at the old games, I saw at most 50% of most matches! I love having a seat and just standing at key exciting moments and goal celebrations. |
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Aug 12, 2024 13:20:28 GMT
Reposting this from the other thread in the hopes it has a better chance of being seen by someone at the club ——- Enjoyed it yesterday. Me and my mate have been standing in the south stand for a few years now, but it definitely makes a huge difference to comfort having the support-bar in front of you and not getting harassed by jumped up little jobsworths. I do agree with the sentiment (maybe not seen on this thread) that there's 0 reason why traditional terracing shouldn't become a thing again. With modern ticketing technology + no fences/pens, if it's allowed in germany then it should be allowed here. If I was JC I'd be pushing for that; even if it takes a political battle to achieve. But obviously I'm not and, realistically, I think this is the best we're going to get. I'm not even sure if there's a push from the FSA for a return to traditional terracing. It also helped massively being able to see the away fans to our right. I think it's a fantastic move overall that, IMO, will lead to more points gained even though that will be impossible to ever prove. A few negatives though; the situation outside the turnstyles at about 12:10 was ridiculous. Without the intervention of the head steward telling the first line of stewards doing the searches and scans to speed it up, we wouldn't have made it in for KO and the queue was still huge behind us. People will have definitely missed KO. Hopefully just teething issues as the head steward assured us. Also the queueing situation at HT for alcohol is still a clusterfuck. It's every man for himself and you basically have to be quite naturally disagreeable to have any chance of moving forward in the queue. Luckily my buddy is a little cunt and weaves his way forward in a manner that is alien to me. But if you go down to get a beer at HT you shouldn't only be getting served as the players are coming back out... I think a few short-term solutions are available. 1. Get instant beer pumps installed as the bulk of waiting time is when people order a pint and they have to pour it. 2. Hire more staff! These kids are on min wage for a few hours every other weekend. It's surely not going to hurt the club to just overstaff 23 times a year rather than constantly be understaffed. 3. Install some railing system for the queue lines so it isn't an every man for himself situation that will surely lead to some incidents between fellow supporters...even yesterday there were some lads in the queue wondering how my mate had got so far forwards, and it did seem like it might turn nasty... I'm not willing to go down early to get drinks as I did that vs Plymouth last season and missed about half of our total home goals... Longterm I do believe that the concourses in many parts of the ground are showing why it was built so cheaply close to 30y ago now. I've been banging this drum for a while now but, if money is no issue in this regard, then I do believe we should rebuild parts of the stadium to bring them up to standard. But it's obviously easy for me to sit here and imagine how I would spend someone else's money... They did say at the consultation that they know the concourse is not upto standard but it would take time to sort so would hope that they will put temporary beer pumps etc which they had anyway in the corner concourse and perhaps even put some portable toilets outside etc, think there will be a fanzone built that end for next season anyway and I deffo think they will extend out onto the coach park and grass area now that away fans are not there, we will see. |
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Post by nott1 on Aug 13, 2024 6:01:08 GMT
As I've said many times, I don't see any advantage over a seat! As someone who stands at home games anyway(Used to sit on the back row in the boothen). I preferred it a million times over, bar is sound to have a lean on. I'd choose standing at the football over sitting everyday of the week. Your choice not mine, I see no advantage! |
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Aug 13, 2024 6:29:24 GMT
As someone who stands at home games anyway(Used to sit on the back row in the boothen). I preferred it a million times over, bar is sound to have a lean on. I'd choose standing at the football over sitting everyday of the week. Your choice not mine, I see no advantage! Thankfully you've got plenty of seated options around the ground so I've got no idea why you keep on criticising safe standing. |
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