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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 3, 2024 20:17:18 GMT
Was it any good?
Will it help with the atmosphere?
I've never been to a ground with it so wondered what it was like.
Plus any image updates of the fan zone?
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Aug 3, 2024 20:21:53 GMT
Was it any good? Will it help with the atmosphere? I've never been to a ground with it so wondered what it was like. Plus any image updates of the fan zone? It was OK won't get a proper feel for it until a league game though, went up and found my new seat and took it in at half time. Fan zone looks nearly ready but smaller than I thought it was going to be, looks good though 👍 |
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Post by lordb on Aug 3, 2024 20:27:59 GMT
Tried it today
Not for me tbh
it's not terracing, it's just standing by your seat
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2024 20:29:27 GMT
No pics sorry, but the fan zone looks really, really good and is almost complete. Sound system has been installed on the stage etc The standing section looked good and the new street food smelt divine and was a good seller.
I have quite a few worries though about the new layout with the away fans. It has now been gated off at the Tile Mountain/new corner area outside - ergo stopping home fans using the extra wide, shallower path up to Stanley Matthews way which leads out opposite the Toyota garage. All home fans now are having to go up the narrow, steeper path and/or the underpass. The issues for me are two fold
1. The away area with large followings could be really, REALLY tight if it isn't managed properly as they only have one way to go whereas when it was open it was a lot more free to move and very fluid.
2. The narrow, steeper path is going to be VERY congested with home fans. Even today it felt a bit of a nut ache to go back on myself, to get stuck in a queue (with only a small crowd there to begin with) to go back on myself to get to where I wanted to go to.
The one other issue I foresee is trouble at the top of the new away path. They'll be completely sitting ducks as there is only one way out and with the likes of your Cardiff's, Leeds and Millwall's etc I can see serious trouble and right outside the bus stops too.
It's new and there will be teething issues of course but overall now i've 'worked' through it on a matchday i'm not sure it works at all and if there has actually been too much thought into that side of it all. Time will tell.
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Post by smallthorner on Aug 3, 2024 20:45:07 GMT
No pics sorry, but the fan zone looks really, really good and is almost complete. Sound system has been installed on the stage etc The standing section looked good and the new street food smelt divine and was a good seller. I have quite a few worries though about the new layout with the away fans. It has now been gated off at the Tile Mountain/new corner area outside - ergo stopping home fans using the extra wide, shallower path up to Stanley Matthews way which leads out opposite the Toyota garage. All home fans now are having to go up the narrow, steeper path and/or the underpass. The issues for me are two fold 1. The away area with large followings could be really, REALLY tight if it isn't managed properly as they only have one way to go whereas when it was open it was a lot more free to move and very fluid. 2. The narrow, steeper path is going to be VERY congested with home fans. Even today it felt a bit of a nut ache to go back on myself, to get stuck in a queue (with only a small crowd there to begin with) to go back on myself to get to where I wanted to go to. The one other issue I foresee is trouble at the top of the new away path. They'll be completely sitting ducks as there is only one way out and with the likes of your Cardiff's, Leeds and Millwall's etc I can see serious trouble and right outside the bus stops too. It's new and there will be teething issues of course but overall now i've 'worked' through it on a matchday i'm not sure it works at all and if there has actually been too much thought into that side of it all. Time will tell. That doesn't sound very clever. Must admit I was quite surprised how quickly these changes were made and the lack of construction modifications. Mmmmm.... |
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Post by sportsman on Aug 3, 2024 20:51:45 GMT
No pics sorry, but the fan zone looks really, really good and is almost complete. Sound system has been installed on the stage etc The standing section looked good and the new street food smelt divine and was a good seller. I have quite a few worries though about the new layout with the away fans. It has now been gated off at the Tile Mountain/new corner area outside - ergo stopping home fans using the extra wide, shallower path up to Stanley Matthews way which leads out opposite the Toyota garage. All home fans now are having to go up the narrow, steeper path and/or the underpass. The issues for me are two fold 1. The away area with large followings could be really, REALLY tight if it isn't managed properly as they only have one way to go whereas when it was open it was a lot more free to move and very fluid. 2. The narrow, steeper path is going to be VERY congested with home fans. Even today it felt a bit of a nut ache to go back on myself, to get stuck in a queue (with only a small crowd there to begin with) to go back on myself to get to where I wanted to go to. The one other issue I foresee is trouble at the top of the new away path. They'll be completely sitting ducks as there is only one way out and with the likes of your Cardiff's, Leeds and Millwall's etc I can see serious trouble and right outside the bus stops too. It's new and there will be teething issues of course but overall now i've 'worked' through it on a matchday i'm not sure it works at all and if there has actually been too much thought into that side of it all. Time will tell. As a south stand season ticket holder I have been wondering for a while now about the segregation and access to and from the away area. There’s always the odd thing ready kick off at the top there, but unless it’s managed really well I can see it being worse. With not being down yet, what is dividing the outside of the away end to where the family stand used to be? Is it a solid no peeping fence type thingy like how the south stand outside is split? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2024 20:52:25 GMT
No pics sorry, but the fan zone looks really, really good and is almost complete. Sound system has been installed on the stage etc The standing section looked good and the new street food smelt divine and was a good seller. I have quite a few worries though about the new layout with the away fans. It has now been gated off at the Tile Mountain/new corner area outside - ergo stopping home fans using the extra wide, shallower path up to Stanley Matthews way which leads out opposite the Toyota garage. All home fans now are having to go up the narrow, steeper path and/or the underpass. The issues for me are two fold 1. The away area with large followings could be really, REALLY tight if it isn't managed properly as they only have one way to go whereas when it was open it was a lot more free to move and very fluid. 2. The narrow, steeper path is going to be VERY congested with home fans. Even today it felt a bit of a nut ache to go back on myself, to get stuck in a queue (with only a small crowd there to begin with) to go back on myself to get to where I wanted to go to. The one other issue I foresee is trouble at the top of the new away path. They'll be completely sitting ducks as there is only one way out and with the likes of your Cardiff's, Leeds and Millwall's etc I can see serious trouble and right outside the bus stops too. It's new and there will be teething issues of course but overall now i've 'worked' through it on a matchday i'm not sure it works at all and if there has actually been too much thought into that side of it all. Time will tell. That doesn't sound very clever. Must admit I was quite surprised how quickly these changes were made and the lack of construction modifications. Mmmmm.... Yeah, the gate is now here highlighted yellow. The red line is where up to 3000 away fans will be and the green line at the top of the path highlights the potential flashpoint, where up to 3000 away fans will be entering a really narrow footpath and smack bang into home fans with nowhere to go - as there are railings stopping them from going straight out onto Stanley Matthews Way.   Home fans that used to go that way (red line below) now have to completely double back on themselves and follow the green line if they need to get to the top of the bank:  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2024 20:58:57 GMT
No pics sorry, but the fan zone looks really, really good and is almost complete. Sound system has been installed on the stage etc The standing section looked good and the new street food smelt divine and was a good seller. I have quite a few worries though about the new layout with the away fans. It has now been gated off at the Tile Mountain/new corner area outside - ergo stopping home fans using the extra wide, shallower path up to Stanley Matthews way which leads out opposite the Toyota garage. All home fans now are having to go up the narrow, steeper path and/or the underpass. The issues for me are two fold 1. The away area with large followings could be really, REALLY tight if it isn't managed properly as they only have one way to go whereas when it was open it was a lot more free to move and very fluid. 2. The narrow, steeper path is going to be VERY congested with home fans. Even today it felt a bit of a nut ache to go back on myself, to get stuck in a queue (with only a small crowd there to begin with) to go back on myself to get to where I wanted to go to. The one other issue I foresee is trouble at the top of the new away path. They'll be completely sitting ducks as there is only one way out and with the likes of your Cardiff's, Leeds and Millwall's etc I can see serious trouble and right outside the bus stops too. It's new and there will be teething issues of course but overall now i've 'worked' through it on a matchday i'm not sure it works at all and if there has actually been too much thought into that side of it all. Time will tell. As a south stand season ticket holder I have been wondering for a while now about the segregation and access to and from the away area. There’s always the odd thing ready kick off at the top there, but unless it’s managed really well I can see it being worse. With not being down yet, what is dividing the outside of the away end to where the family stand used to be? Is it a solid no peeping fence type thingy like how the south stand outside is split? Yes, that type of fencing without the green matting over it yet. See above for the segregation aspect. |
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Post by bloodtypered on Aug 3, 2024 21:01:46 GMT
Sounded a little strange hearing stoke singing, from that part of the ground
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Post by onepara on Aug 3, 2024 21:03:25 GMT
I tried to have a look at that when I went to the open day, but Security wouldn't let anyone go around from the Main entrance to the Boothen. He said because there was work going on.
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Post by Gods on Aug 3, 2024 21:12:32 GMT
Tried it today Not for me tbh it's not terracing, it's just standing by your seat Yep, I think the campaign should have been for terraces or bust. Freedom to roam is what you want. |
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Aug 3, 2024 21:43:50 GMT
I have tried my best to show an email I was sent by ant Emerson 3 weeks ago showing the plans but I just cannot work out how to do it.
Anyway on these plans the away coach park there is a new path that leads to the back of the new away end as well as the path mentioned above, although I heard recently that the away coach park is being moved? I suppose we will see next week with the first big away following.
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Post by dealstokie08 on Aug 3, 2024 21:51:33 GMT
What was really annoying was that you can't walk from the exits for the new blocks immediately to the shop and ticket office (about 200 feet) they close the gates, so you have to walk up to the main road and back on yourself to get back towards the shop/ticket office/ car parks. Utter madness.
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Aug 3, 2024 21:54:21 GMT
What was really annoying was that you can't walk from the exits for the new blocks immediately to the shop and ticket office (about 200 feet) they close the gates, so you have to walk up to the main road and back on yourself to get back towards the shop/ticket office/ car parks. Utter madness. From the plans/diagrams I was sent that will be the access to the new home end on matchdays. |
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Post by LGH87 on Aug 3, 2024 21:56:39 GMT
That doesn't sound very clever. Must admit I was quite surprised how quickly these changes were made and the lack of construction modifications. Mmmmm.... Yeah, the gate is now here highlighted yellow. The red line is where up to 3000 away fans will be and the green line at the top of the path highlights the potential flashpoint, where up to 3000 away fans will be entering a really narrow footpath and smack bang into home fans with nowhere to go - as there are railings stopping them from going straight out onto Stanley Matthews Way. Home fans that used to go that way (red line below) now have to completely double back on themselves and follow the green line if they need to get to the top of the bank: They should really turn the tree filled bank in to steps now. Would allow easy access and no doubling back Same for the away path too, would open it right up from the narrow path it is now |
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Post by dealstokie08 on Aug 3, 2024 21:59:12 GMT
What was really annoying was that you can't walk from the exits for the new blocks immediately to the shop and ticket office (about 200 feet) they close the gates, so you have to walk up to the main road and back on yourself to get back towards the shop/ticket office/ car parks. Utter madness. From the plans/diagrams I was sent that will be the access to the away end on matchdays. Not sure how you mean? |
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Aug 3, 2024 22:07:42 GMT
From the plans/diagrams I was sent that will be the access to the away end on matchdays. Not sure how you mean? The path up the side of the shop to the new home turnstiles that was shut today, We will find out next week. Edit should say new home end not away end. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 3, 2024 22:08:56 GMT
Tried it today Not for me tbh it's not terracing, it's just standing by your seat Yep, I think the campaign should have been for terraces or bust. Freedom to roam is what you want. Chances of that are very slim. If the riots that are kicking off regularly all around Europe are anything to go by anyway. Government and Police will be very reluctant to even consider a return to that. |
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Post by dealstokie08 on Aug 3, 2024 22:13:43 GMT
The path up the side of the shop to the new home turnstiles that was shut today, We will find out next week. Edit should say new home end not away end. How could they use that for away fans? That means aways fans will have to cross paths with us directly outside of the turnstiles. |
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Post by Gods on Aug 3, 2024 22:18:09 GMT
Yep, I think the campaign should have been for terraces or bust. Freedom to roam is what you want. Chances of that are very slim. If the riots that are kicking off regularly all around Europe are anything to go by anyway. Government and Police will be very reluctant to even consider a return to that. True. For me standing was never about the act of standing, I can do that any time. It was the ability to roam. To stand with your pals. To move around according to the circumstances. It was freedom. This way you are still in your prison cell but someone has said its okay to stand up, which you used to do behind your seat anyway. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 3, 2024 22:26:00 GMT
Chances of that are very slim. If the riots that are kicking off regularly all around Europe are anything to go by anyway. Government and Police will be very reluctant to even consider a return to that. True. For me standing was never about the act of standing, I can do that any time. It was the ability to roam. To stand with your pals. To move around according to the circumstances. It was freedom. This way you are still in your prison cell but someone has said its okay to stand up, which you used to do behind your seat anyway. Yeah I completely agree. I just can’t see a future where football crowds above 10k in England get anywhere near that again. |
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Post by Gods on Aug 3, 2024 22:39:44 GMT
True. For me standing was never about the act of standing, I can do that any time. It was the ability to roam. To stand with your pals. To move around according to the circumstances. It was freedom. This way you are still in your prison cell but someone has said its okay to stand up, which you used to do behind your seat anyway. Yeah I completely agree. I just can’t see a future where football crowds above 10k in England get anywhere near that again. True. here is how I feel about that, adapted from Bob Dylan! I wish, I wish, I wish in vain That we could stand simply on that terrace again Ten thousand pounds at the drop of a hat I'd give it all gladly if our lives could be like that |
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Post by daz2631 on Aug 3, 2024 22:45:05 GMT
New away end is going to be a big test next week as Coventry have sold out 3500 tickets.my concern is the segregation between both sets of fans is about 6foot wide on both sides which could be interesting never mind entrance and exit after the game
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 4, 2024 0:06:45 GMT
No pics sorry, but the fan zone looks really, really good and is almost complete. Sound system has been installed on the stage etc The standing section looked good and the new street food smelt divine and was a good seller. I have quite a few worries though about the new layout with the away fans. It has now been gated off at the Tile Mountain/new corner area outside - ergo stopping home fans using the extra wide, shallower path up to Stanley Matthews way which leads out opposite the Toyota garage. All home fans now are having to go up the narrow, steeper path and/or the underpass. The issues for me are two fold 1. The away area with large followings could be really, REALLY tight if it isn't managed properly as they only have one way to go whereas when it was open it was a lot more free to move and very fluid. 2. The narrow, steeper path is going to be VERY congested with home fans. Even today it felt a bit of a nut ache to go back on myself, to get stuck in a queue (with only a small crowd there to begin with) to go back on myself to get to where I wanted to go to. The one other issue I foresee is trouble at the top of the new away path. They'll be completely sitting ducks as there is only one way out and with the likes of your Cardiff's, Leeds and Millwall's etc I can see serious trouble and right outside the bus stops too. It's new and there will be teething issues of course but overall now i've 'worked' through it on a matchday i'm not sure it works at all and if there has actually been too much thought into that side of it all. Time will tell. That doesn't sound very clever. Must admit I was quite surprised how quickly these changes were made and the lack of construction modifications. Mmmmm.... You would hope that the police were consulted about the management of large crowds. Perhaps they prefer them to be confined? I have no idea. Where will they have to go to get to their coaches? |
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 4, 2024 0:09:09 GMT
Chances of that are very slim. If the riots that are kicking off regularly all around Europe are anything to go by anyway. Government and Police will be very reluctant to even consider a return to that. True. For me standing was never about the act of standing, I can do that any time. It was the ability to roam. To stand with your pals. To move around according to the circumstances. It was freedom. This way you are still in your prison cell but someone has said its okay to stand up, which you used to do behind your seat anyway. It is what safe standing is and it has been made clear that's what it was going to be all summer. |
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Post by Ron on Aug 4, 2024 0:14:50 GMT
I’m back home and went today. The standing is excellent- gives people that option if they want it and Arnos should be good,.. however… externally- the planning is a fucking abomination… the home end opens up to what was ( and presumably still will be ) the away coach park ( where Bryan’s is). The concourses and small in there too. Seen smaller than the boothen.
As is pointed out- extra pressure on the walkway up the ramp at rear of tile mountain/ sentinel stand/ which is shit anyway. Club need to dig out all trees at the back and put concrete steps- almost like a terrace- all the way along/
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 4, 2024 0:27:16 GMT
It’s funny seeing people talk about digging the trees out. Me and my Brother always wanted it turning into a concrete jungle 🤣
It always made sense.
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Aug 4, 2024 3:30:47 GMT
The path up the side of the shop to the new home turnstiles that was shut today, We will find out next week. Edit should say new home end not away end. How could they use that for away fans? That means aways fans will have to cross paths with us directly outside of the turnstiles. I've edited the comment should of said home end, suppose it will get some getting used to not calling it the away end.. |
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Post by TheElusiveTramp on Aug 4, 2024 4:53:42 GMT
From the matchday thread  |
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Post by sportsman on Aug 4, 2024 5:11:57 GMT
I’m back home and went today. The standing is excellent- gives people that option if they want it and Arnos should be good,.. however… externally- the planning is a fucking abomination… the home end opens up to what was ( and presumably still will be ) the away coach park ( where Bryan’s is). The concourses and small in there too. Seen smaller than the boothen. As is pointed out- extra pressure on the walkway up the ramp at rear of tile mountain/ sentinel stand/ which is shit anyway. Club need to dig out all trees at the back and put concrete steps- almost like a terrace- all the way along/ Not concrete steps, big escalators 😁 |
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