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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 3, 2024 10:49:35 GMT
What if we’d beat Leicester. I think that’s pretty much my only “what if”. If we hadn't spent the 2nd leg humping high balls to their giant centre backs. We tactically handed them that game
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Post by lordb on Aug 3, 2024 11:06:36 GMT
What if we’d beat Leicester. I think that’s pretty much my only “what if”. If we hadn't spent the 2nd leg humping high balls to their giant centre backs. We tactically handed them that game we lumped it because the team we're dead on their feet, courtesy of to small a squad, had no running left in them I know you don't like Macari & are determined to snipe at anything he did during his time here however am just not going to accept your revisionist crap on this best manager since Waddo by a mile
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 3, 2024 11:12:34 GMT
If we hadn't spent the 2nd leg humping high balls to their giant centre backs. We tactically handed them that game we lumped it because the team we're dead on their feet, courtesy of to small a squad, had no running left in them I know you don't like Macari & are determined to snipe at anything he did during his time here however am just not going to accept your revisionist crap on this best manager since Waddo by a mile Why were we dead on our feet and they weren't? Terrible excuse. They pretty much had a settled 11 sames as us Was clear from the first 5 mins we weren't going to score and created absolutely nothing and changed nothing Maybe the revisionist crap is what actually happened that night as the result and stats stats show but the reality of it is blinkered in your case 👍 .
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Post by i1da on Aug 3, 2024 11:16:44 GMT
What if ... Notts Co and us formed the league 20 years earlier. We would have had at least 10 titles to our name by 1888 and every good player would have wanted to play for us from then on. Manchester Who? Or Notts County would be on 20 titles and would now be the modern day 'Real Madrid'. We'd still be titleless. ROFL ..... Knowing our luck, we'd have been relegated to the 1 team second division and still failed to win that!
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Post by i1da on Aug 3, 2024 11:18:17 GMT
If we hadn't spent the 2nd leg humping high balls to their giant centre backs. We tactically handed them that game we lumped it because the team we're dead on their feet, courtesy of to small a squad, had no running left in them I know you don't like Macari & are determined to snipe at anything he did during his time here however am just not going to accept your revisionist crap on this best manager since Waddo by a mile Nah, Macari was great, but both Pulis and Hughes achieved more than him and for longer!
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 3, 2024 11:20:37 GMT
we lumped it because the team we're dead on their feet, courtesy of to small a squad, had no running left in them I know you don't like Macari & are determined to snipe at anything he did during his time here however am just not going to accept your revisionist crap on this best manager since Waddo by a mile Nah, Macari was great, but both Pulis and Hughes achieved more than him and for longer! As did Alan Durban in a short space of time. Took us up and finished mid table. Lost 6 games only in our promotion season
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Post by Dutchpeter on Aug 3, 2024 11:32:51 GMT
we lumped it because the team we're dead on their feet, courtesy of to small a squad, had no running left in them I know you don't like Macari & are determined to snipe at anything he did during his time here however am just not going to accept your revisionist crap on this best manager since Waddo by a mile Nah, Macari was great, but both Pulis and Hughes achieved more than him and for longer! On huge budgets in the premier. Lou did his work brilliantly, turned the club around almost instantaneously, with a fraction of what Pulis and Hughes had to work with.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 3, 2024 11:37:14 GMT
Nah, Macari was great, but both Pulis and Hughes achieved more than him and for longer! On huge budgets in the premier. Lou did his work brilliantly, turned the club around almost instantaneously, with a fraction of what Pulis and Hughes had to work with. Pulis didn't take us up on a huge budget and neither did Durban. Achieved more. Pulis had his budget in the Prem as a result of taking us here himself and turning us from relegation fodder to automatic promotion. Durban also
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Post by Dutchpeter on Aug 3, 2024 11:42:24 GMT
On huge budgets in the premier. Lou did his work brilliantly, turned the club around almost instantaneously, with a fraction of what Pulis and Hughes had to work with. Pulis didn't take us up on a huge budget and neither did Durban. Achieved more. Pulis had his budget in the Prem as a result of taking us here himself and turning us from relegation fodder to automatic promotion. Durban also Tony Pulis had a very competitive budget to take us up. You only have to look at who we signed and the fees we paid, the Coates wealth was manifesting itself at the club from the summer of 2006. Durban I’d totally agree about.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Aug 3, 2024 11:44:49 GMT
Charlie Adam hadn’t missed that penalty
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 3, 2024 11:47:18 GMT
Pulis didn't take us up on a huge budget and neither did Durban. Achieved more. Pulis had his budget in the Prem as a result of taking us here himself and turning us from relegation fodder to automatic promotion. Durban also Tony Pulis had a very competitive budget to take us up. You only have to look at who we signed and the fees we paid, the Coates wealth was manifesting itself at the club from the summer of 2006. Durban I’d totally agree about. Pulis used the loan market well. Proof is in what he achieved with a team that was at the foot of the table when he took over. Bolton under Rioch left us behind in the Macari era with shrewd management and budget signings. Rioch was 10x the manager. We tried to get him after Macari but he wasn't interested. Shame
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Post by Dutchpeter on Aug 3, 2024 12:07:47 GMT
Tony Pulis had a very competitive budget to take us up. You only have to look at who we signed and the fees we paid, the Coates wealth was manifesting itself at the club from the summer of 2006. Durban I’d totally agree about. Pulis used the loan market well. Proof is in what he achieved with a team that was at the foot of the table when he took over. Bolton under Rioch left us behind in the Macari era with shrewd management and budget signings. Rioch was 10x the manager. We tried to get him after Macari but he wasn't interested. Shame Within the context of Stoke City and the state of the club, Lou’s achievements were excellent.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 3, 2024 12:10:40 GMT
Pulis used the loan market well. Proof is in what he achieved with a team that was at the foot of the table when he took over. Bolton under Rioch left us behind in the Macari era with shrewd management and budget signings. Rioch was 10x the manager. We tried to get him after Macari but he wasn't interested. Shame Within the context of Stoke City and the state of the club, Lou’s achievements were excellent. They were ..in the 3rd tier mainly but did take us to the playoffs of course .
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Post by LDE76 on Aug 3, 2024 12:12:21 GMT
If we hadn't spent the 2nd leg humping high balls to their giant centre backs. We tactically handed them that game we lumped it because the team we're dead on their feet, courtesy of to small a squad, had no running left in them I know you don't like Macari & are determined to snipe at anything he did during his time here however am just not going to accept your revisionist crap on this best manager since Waddo by a mile That March, we sold Peschisolido and Leicester signed Steve Claridge, who went on to score the winning goal in the play-off final.
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 3, 2024 12:20:03 GMT
we lumped it because the team we're dead on their feet, courtesy of to small a squad, had no running left in them I know you don't like Macari & are determined to snipe at anything he did during his time here however am just not going to accept your revisionist crap on this best manager since Waddo by a mile That March, we sold Peschisolido and Leicester signed Steve Claridge, who went on to score the winning goal in the play-off final. They made three signings on deadline day to bolster their squad. In came Neil Lennon, Muzzy Izzet, and Steve Claridge who all helped them to get onto the play offs. Meanwhile, Stoke decided not to sign anyone and sell Paul Peschisolido to Birmingham for £450k.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 3, 2024 12:24:27 GMT
That March, we sold Peschisolido and Leicester signed Steve Claridge, who went on to score the winning goal in the play-off final. They made three signings on deadline line to bolster their squad. In came Neil Lennon, Muzzy Izzet, and Steve Claridge who all helped them to get onto the play offs. Meanwhile, Stoke decided not to sign anyone and sell Paul Peschisolido to Birmingham for £450k. We actually decided to buy Mendonca for £625k but you can thank Macari for that one not happening without going into detail on here but many know why. Would have helped if he had turned up on deadline day as well, was the beginning of the end end for him.
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 3, 2024 12:40:09 GMT
They made three signings on deadline line to bolster their squad. In came Neil Lennon, Muzzy Izzet, and Steve Claridge who all helped them to get onto the play offs. Meanwhile, Stoke decided not to sign anyone and sell Paul Peschisolido to Birmingham for £450k. We actually decided to buy Mendonca for £625k but you can thank Macari for that one not happening without going into detail on here but many know why. Would have helped if he had turned up on deadline day as well, was the beginning of the end end for him. I thought the Mendonca deal was the following year, but could be wrong. Rumours were going around at the time that we were so skint we were struggling to pay the players on time.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 3, 2024 12:53:45 GMT
On huge budgets in the premier. Lou did his work brilliantly, turned the club around almost instantaneously, with a fraction of what Pulis and Hughes had to work with. Pulis didn't take us up on a huge budget and neither did Durban. Achieved more. Pulis had his budget in the Prem as a result of taking us here himself and turning us from relegation fodder to automatic promotion. Durban also Bit of a myth re Pulis. Our wage to turnover stat for the promotion season was 119%. Which is pretty massive.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 3, 2024 12:55:01 GMT
That March, we sold Peschisolido and Leicester signed Steve Claridge, who went on to score the winning goal in the play-off final. They made three signings on deadline day to bolster their squad. In came Neil Lennon, Muzzy Izzet, and Steve Claridge who all helped them to get onto the play offs. Meanwhile, Stoke decided not to sign anyone and sell Paul Peschisolido to Birmingham for £450k. Why the fuck did we do that 🤣🤦♂️
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 3, 2024 12:56:19 GMT
They made three signings on deadline day to bolster their squad. In came Neil Lennon, Muzzy Izzet, and Steve Claridge who all helped them to get onto the play offs. Meanwhile, Stoke decided not to sign anyone and sell Paul Peschisolido to Birmingham for £450k. Why the fuck did we do that 🤣🤦♂️ Completely skint and Pesch was seen as surplus to requirements at that stage because Sheron and Sturridge were playing out of their skins up front.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 3, 2024 12:57:24 GMT
Why the fuck did we do that 🤣🤦♂️ Completely skint and Pesch was seen as surplus to requirements at that stage because Sheron and Sturridge were playing out of their skins up front. Seems very backward.
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Post by M on Aug 3, 2024 12:58:45 GMT
If Garry Parker hadn’t scored that goal at the Vic in 96
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Post by i1da on Aug 3, 2024 17:03:55 GMT
Pulis used the loan market well. Proof is in what he achieved with a team that was at the foot of the table when he took over. Bolton under Rioch left us behind in the Macari era with shrewd management and budget signings. Rioch was 10x the manager. We tried to get him after Macari but he wasn't interested. Shame Within the context of Stoke City and the state of the club, Lou’s achievements were excellent. Nobody disagrees with that, but Pulis and Hughes also had excellent achievements.
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Post by i1da on Aug 3, 2024 17:05:55 GMT
Pulis didn't take us up on a huge budget and neither did Durban. Achieved more. Pulis had his budget in the Prem as a result of taking us here himself and turning us from relegation fodder to automatic promotion. Durban also Bit of a myth re Pulis. Our wage to turnover stat for the promotion season was 119%. Which is pretty massive. Percentages can be deceiving. If we had a turnover of ten quid, forty quid would be 400%!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 3, 2024 17:07:55 GMT
Bit of a myth re Pulis. Our wage to turnover stat for the promotion season was 119%. Which is pretty massive. Percentages can be deceiving. If we had a turnover of ten quid, forty quid would be 400%! Cresswell was on 19k a week with us in the Chanpionship. And that’s from evidence used in a trial in a court so I can only presume it’s true!
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Post by J-Roar on Aug 4, 2024 5:31:10 GMT
Completely skint and Pesch was seen as surplus to requirements at that stage because Sheron and Sturridge were playing out of their skins up front. Seems very backward. It was
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 4, 2024 6:57:18 GMT
This one is a less consequential one, but...
What if Pulis gave Fuller a new contract and regularly played him instead of signing Michael Owen? People may say that Fuller was past his best, but we started that season with a first choice strike partnership of Adam and Crouch.
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Post by fazza90 on Aug 4, 2024 8:52:33 GMT
What if PaddyPower hadn't paid out on us being relegated after the Bolton game
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 4, 2024 10:22:20 GMT
Why the fuck did we do that 🤣🤦♂️ Completely skint and Pesch was seen as surplus to requirements at that stage because Sheron and Sturridge were playing out of their skins up front. Pesch had a £ per goal clause in his contract that we were struggling to pay also. Wasn't huge but was adding up. Written off when he went back
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Post by chad on Aug 4, 2024 11:56:51 GMT
What if Hitler hadn’t invaded Poland? We’d probably have won the league in 1940 or 1941. Our whole history and direction as a club would have been totally different. No fucking consideration that bloke !
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