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Post by Bera’s Beano on Jul 30, 2024 10:03:56 GMT
Surly making profit shows you invested well? IE done your job correctly. Must of loved Mark Cartwright you, Unbelievable I don’t want us becoming a selling club thanks. I don’t think bet365 needs the money. We should be building our team around those players. I haven’t liked much of our recruitment, been crap for 8-10 years. But I know it was diabolical last year for 75 percent of the season and I’m really baffled some of you think because we are signing Gally it’s a disaster. We were weak as piss last season and a team full of individuals and by the way Blackburn took 6 points off us last year just to add. We got bullied and some of these foreign lads weren’t up to the physical challenge of the league. To be fair, with the crap FFP rules Bet365 is irrelevant. The club sometimes needs the money to stay the right side and selling one big asset to buy 2-3 good ones when needed is the whole basis for football outside the top 5-6 clubs… I think the transfer window has gone perfectly fine so far as well to be fair. |
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Jul 30, 2024 10:07:22 GMT
To be fair it’s perfectly reasonable to still be questioning whether Schumacher is the right man before the Bolton match. That’s not to say he doesn’t get a clean chance to go for it when the season starts but he’s done very little to show he’s going to be successful yet. I want him to succeed for sure. I think he’s deserving of a couple of months before any serious concern could be expressed. He inherited a shit show from Neil but by the end of the season we looked a pretty decent side (at times). Turning clubs like ours around usually takes time. After 10 games if we are seriously underperforming and results are poor then I’d understand calls for his role to be reviewed. Even then though it’s symptomatic of the Watford type culture we’ve created where managers are swapped more frequently than you change your socks. Yeah that’s what I’m saying really, he will get a perfectly fair crack at this season and we can expect it to take time, but short of a decent last few games of the season, and despite him having to turn around the form from Neil, which he didn’t do for months anyway, the football was truly awful to watch. He’s got a full pre-season, recruitment and backing this Summer. He doesn’t get a free ride but I think fairly he’ll be given time, no one is expecting top 2 or anything by October but the jury is still out. |
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Post by march4 on Jul 30, 2024 10:12:53 GMT
If we aren’t in a season long relegation battle then he is an upgrade on the previous bloke.
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 30, 2024 10:17:05 GMT
So weve a thread slating Walters reign so far, now weve got one slating Darnborough, even though hes only been here 2 months and theres still a month of the tfr window left. A bit early doors isnt it folks? No doubt if we lose a couple early doors the schuey out thread will go up, followed byt the Coates must sell cause JC is useless Other than the odd negative comment when he left i wasnt aware he was hated at Hull Bet you if we lose to Bolton there will be a few saying is Schumacher the right man. You get idiots in all walks of life though. |
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jul 30, 2024 10:35:19 GMT
Just a query...where has Dublin ended up going to?
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Post by bertiestan on Jul 30, 2024 10:39:39 GMT
Just a query...where has Dublin ended up going to? Nowhere I don’t think bud🔴⚪️ |
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Post by baconburger on Jul 30, 2024 10:39:46 GMT
Bet you if we lose to Bolton there will be a few saying is Schumacher the right man. You get idiots in all walks of life though. I wouldn’t say it makes them idiots. Maybe they just like and believe in a certain style of football manager/HC that Schu is unlikely to ever become. He’s all about “High Risk, High Reward” football (not my words it’s what he’s associated with)( I really like him he stands for everything I believe in football wise). If they prefer a more pragmatic approach to the game they’ll question him at every set back. That doesn’t make them idiots they just see the game very differently. |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jul 30, 2024 10:58:19 GMT
To be fair it’s perfectly reasonable to still be questioning whether Schumacher is the right man before the Bolton match. That’s not to say he doesn’t get a clean chance to go for it when the season starts but he’s done very little to show he’s going to be successful yet. I want him to succeed for sure. I think he’s deserving of a couple of months before any serious concern could be expressed. He inherited a shit show from Neil but by the end of the season we looked a pretty decent side (at times). Turning clubs like ours around usually takes time. After 10 games if we are seriously underperforming and results are poor then I’d understand calls for his role to be reviewed. Even then though it’s symptomatic of the Watford type culture we’ve created where managers are swapped more frequently than you change your socks. Yeah, a bit harsh to say hes done very little yet. If you take out that 6 weeks from late Jan to March, i think he did pretty well. Think Martin being there was a real issue for him Guess we’ll have a better idea by the end of September |
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Post by bagnallboothen on Jul 30, 2024 11:01:57 GMT
The timing of the sacking of Dublin and appointing Darnbrough was idiotic.
At present things are a little slow, not helped that we've only signed a keeper and defenders, it was always likely to take a while to get going due to the above and the need to shift players on which so far we've failed miserably at
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Post by themistocles on Jul 30, 2024 11:14:12 GMT
There is a clear divide on who were JDs signings and who were SS and ANs. The problem was interference from the Head coach in recruitment, its why JD left. Rinse and repeat for us. Unless you work for the club, I don’t see how on earth you would know this? That's what I have been told. |
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Post by baconburger on Jul 30, 2024 12:40:37 GMT
The timing of the sacking of Dublin and appointing Darnbrough was idiotic. At present things are a little slow, not helped that we've only signed a keeper and defenders, it was always likely to take a while to get going due to the above and the need to shift players on which so far we've failed miserably at I don't think the timing matters at all JD did not negotiate deals he identified players. Indeed one of the players he identified is one we've signed since he left. ATM we seem to be having more difficulty closing deals than identifying players. Don't know who leads on that now JW or Darnbrough but RM was definitely responsible for closing deals before he was binned. |
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Jul 31, 2024 13:49:45 GMT
The fact still remains we have been short of a 10+ goals striker since start of last season (or since Brown left) LD being here 2 months means he most likely will have had this as a priority from the get go and this Blackburn fella is the only solid enquiry. Would be a disappointment if we cannot find a Tyrese level talent in the next month; just don’t get a bloody plodder please.
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 31, 2024 14:04:19 GMT
You get idiots in all walks of life though. I wouldn’t say it makes them idiots. Maybe they just like and believe in a certain style of football manager/HC that Schu is unlikely to ever become. He’s all about “High Risk, High Reward” football (not my words it’s what he’s associated with)( I really like him he stands for everything I believe in football wise). If they prefer a more pragmatic approach to the game they’ll question him at every set back. That doesn’t make them idiots they just see the game very differently. I'd say anyone who makes a judgement based on pre-season kickabouts is certifiable. |
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 31, 2024 14:06:38 GMT
The fact still remains we have been short of a 10+ goals striker since start of last season (or since Brown left) LD being here 2 months means he most likely will have had this as a priority from the get go and this Blackburn fella is the only solid enquiry. Would be a disappointment if we cannot find a Tyrese level talent in the next month; just don’t get a bloody plodder please. Agreed. A 3 goal a season hot shot would really lift the spirits. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 31, 2024 14:12:13 GMT
I wouldn’t say it makes them idiots. Maybe they just like and believe in a certain style of football manager/HC that Schu is unlikely to ever become. He’s all about “High Risk, High Reward” football (not my words it’s what he’s associated with)( I really like him he stands for everything I believe in football wise). If they prefer a more pragmatic approach to the game they’ll question him at every set back. That doesn’t make them idiots they just see the game very differently. I'd say anyone who makes a judgement based on pre-season kickabouts is certifiable. I'd say we have had poor pre season results amd performances for the last few years followed by poor seasons it's not linear bit it's not unrelated |
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Post by Gods on Jul 31, 2024 14:46:36 GMT
The timing of the sacking of Dublin and appointing Darnbrough was idiotic. At present things are a little slow, not helped that we've only signed a keeper and defenders, it was always likely to take a while to get going due to the above and the need to shift players on which so far we've failed miserably at That's the hard part. Selling players we don't ourselves want. Anyone can check some player stats and spend money. |
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 31, 2024 15:17:16 GMT
I'd say anyone who makes a judgement based on pre-season kickabouts is certifiable. I'd say we have had poor pre season results amd performances for the last few years followed by poor seasons it's not linear bit it's not unrelated So the reserves losing to Stockport is a good reason to press the panic button? |
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Post by baconburger on Jul 31, 2024 15:30:31 GMT
I wouldn’t say it makes them idiots. Maybe they just like and believe in a certain style of football manager/HC that Schu is unlikely to ever become. He’s all about “High Risk, High Reward” football (not my words it’s what he’s associated with)( I really like him he stands for everything I believe in football wise). If they prefer a more pragmatic approach to the game they’ll question him at every set back. That doesn’t make them idiots they just see the game very differently. I'd say anyone who makes a judgement based on pre-season kickabouts is certifiable. You’re not getting me some people are looking for reasons to be positive, some are looking for reasons to be negative. They’re both equally as irrational. |
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Post by scfcwebby on Jul 31, 2024 15:39:00 GMT
Unless you work for the club, I don’t see how on earth you would know this? That's what I have been told. Worrying if true... The whole point of the model we were trying to achieve (catch up on other clubs) was to eliminate this and let the recruitment team recruit and the coaching team coach so that we didn't go round this vicious circle every time a manager leaves. It was, however, easy to spot that this was going on |
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Post by boweryboy on Jul 31, 2024 15:46:00 GMT
No but with the lack of goal threat at the moment, midfield still not picking players up,Willmot still giving the ball away,when playing out from the back,we are still way off where we need to be.
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Post by spiderpuss on Jul 31, 2024 16:00:52 GMT
Just a query...where has Dublin ended up going to? Homes under the hammer mate. |
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Post by gingerninja on Jul 31, 2024 16:27:43 GMT
Not sure if we have heard from Darnbrough since his appointment?.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 31, 2024 17:34:11 GMT
Not sure if we have heard from Darnbrough since his appointment?. His work is top secret. Appeals to people who think you can contain information in a free market. |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jul 31, 2024 19:17:18 GMT
Not sure if we have heard from Darnbrough since his appointment?. So what? Let’s put considered opinions forward after this an January’s window |
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Post by professorplump on Aug 1, 2024 1:16:20 GMT
Not sure if we have heard from Darnbrough since his appointment?. It's not really his job to give interviews. We never used to hear much from Jared Dublin either. |
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 1, 2024 5:28:43 GMT
If an overseas player is available,& is better & cheaper than a homegrown one,I'm sure Shuey & JW will go down that route,if not they need their heads looking at. I’m not so convinced. The difference will be ‘homegrown has better character’ |
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Post by alsager58 on Aug 1, 2024 8:03:34 GMT
The poor guy has only been in the job six weeks give him a chance. Are you negative Normans expecting him to name players we are chasing ? What are you expecting him to say Norman?
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Post by biglad180 on Aug 1, 2024 12:24:15 GMT
Darnbouruogh as done a deal for Carvellio from liverpool at Hull if he could do the same deal for us that wood be great,,oh and try bring Ben Doak with him he would be great in this league for 12 months
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Post by theteacher on Aug 1, 2024 12:38:27 GMT
Let’s see where we are the close of the transfer window.
Recruiting for character and building a solid spine is where we are - it’s the sprinkling of talented player(s) (possibly young and on loan) to add to what we have will probably make or break our season but that is likely to come later in the window? Fingers crossed.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Aug 1, 2024 13:01:58 GMT
Let’s see where we are the close of the transfer window. Recruiting for character and building a solid spine is where we are - it’s the sprinkling of talented player(s) (possibly young and on loan) to add to what we have will probably make or break our season but that is likely to come later in the window? Fingers crossed. A sensible post at last! There are weeks left in the window. You don't just get your priority signings in and then fill around them; that would be great if feasible. Getting your priority positions filled doesn't happen in an organised, timely, and easy manner. Also, if a deal comes up and it's a 2nd or 3rd choice, do you hold off and risk losing out, or do you buy? Throw in all the lunacy of transfers, medicals, last minute hijacking of deals and ta-da! the plan is out the window. Trust the process. And if they arse it up, then have a whinge😉🤣 |
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