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Post by rowleyscfc on Jul 30, 2024 8:22:26 GMT
Hull fans hated him.
Might be too early to talk but the links aren't exactly filling me with excitement.
Bocat aside we've just shopped in the championship, and not even the decent players available in the champ (Bocat 100% a Dublin singing as we went for him in Jan)
Our best signings last year we're all foreign brought, There's zero value in buying from the English leagues.
Think Walter's may have got this one wrong.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 30, 2024 8:24:36 GMT
He's barely got his feet under the table yet give him chance.
Do most fans really hate the Head of Recruitment? A lot would barely know who they were I would imagine.
We've been accused of muddled thinking previously, if we are going down a different route whether people agree with it or not if there's absolute clarity of the direction of travel and ethos from the Sporting Director down to the first team and academy coaching staff that can only be a good thing surely?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2024 8:29:25 GMT
Like Walters, we'll need to give him at least 12 months before forming a judgement on what he's about. The club are clearly targeting the British market and being honest and truthful, I don't think thats going to be easy to judge as the players are well known and everyone is after the same players.
Therefore it's hard to judge how good he is at spotting talent and how good he is at recruiting them given you are limited by budget.
The one possible area where we can judge early doors (post September) is how we've used the young loan market as that is apparently one of his specialist areas with contacts.
The bigger issue will be higher up with the owner and Walters and why we've moved on from a continental specialist to one that probably isn't. There should have been room for both at a club like ours with a dual approach but ultimately that's not Darnbrough's fault. He's been brought in to do a certain job.
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Post by rowleyscfc on Jul 30, 2024 8:30:26 GMT
He's barely got his feet under the table yet give him chance. Do most fans really hate the Head of Recruitment? A lot would barely know who they were I would imagine. We've been accused of muddled thinking previously, if we are going down a different route whether people agree with it or not if there's absolute clarity of the direction of travel and ethos from the Sporting Director down to the first team and academy coaching staff that can only be a good thing surely? Most the articles around his time at Hull is him responding to fans criticism of him, He found some gems at his time in Hull. A lot of loans that may of come to early, but also signed a load of shit too, i'd say most Hull fans left with questions over his ability in talent spotting |
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Post by idle on Jul 30, 2024 8:30:48 GMT
Not looking good, we seem to be chasing the same average championship plodders as everyone else. We're not even looking at L1 or L2 players it seems. And other than totally leftfield rumours we're not looking abroad either.
BUT, its's a full month left of the the transfer window. I'll wait until then before I pass judgement.
As for Walters; loved him as a player, but I'm sceptical as a director. He "deserves" another year though, the TD/SD role is a long term thing.
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Post by wonderwall on Jul 30, 2024 8:32:20 GMT
Not looking good, we seem to be chasing the same average championship plodders as everyone else. We're not even looking at L1 or L2 players it seems. And other than totally leftfield rumours we're not looking abroad either. BUT, its's a full month left of the the transfer window. I'll wait until then before I pass judgement. As for Walters; loved him as a player, but I'm sceptical as a director. He "deserves" another year though, the TD/SD role is a long term thing. You’ve no idea who we are chasing. Wait till the end of the window and then let’s see where we are at. |
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Post by northernstokie on Jul 30, 2024 8:33:28 GMT
Hull fans hated him. Might be too early to talk but the links aren't exactly filling me with excitement. Bocat aside we've just shopped in the championship, and not even the decent players available in the champ (Bocat 100% a Dublin singing as we went for him in Jan) Our best signings last year we're all foreign brought, There's zero value in buying from the English leagues. Think Walter's may have got this one wrong. That's just guess work though. No one knows what's going on and who we are looking at. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 30, 2024 8:33:45 GMT
It takes all sorts to make a team and in the championship the TEAM is the most important ingredient
Give the bloke a chance FFS
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Post by rowleyscfc on Jul 30, 2024 8:34:02 GMT
Like Walters, we'll need to give him at least 12 months before forming a judgement on what he's about. The club are clearly targeting the British market and being honest and truthful, I don't think thats going to be easy to judge as the players are well known and everyone is after the same players. Therefore it's hard to judge how good he is at spotting talent and how good he is at recruiting them given you are limited by budget. The one possible area where we can judge early doors (post September) is how we've used the young loan market as that is apparently one of his specialist areas with contacts. The bigger issue will be higher up with the owner and Walters and why we've moved on from a continental specialist to one that probably isn't. There should have been room for both at a club like ours with a dual approach but ultimately that's not Darnbrough's fault. He's been brought in to do a certain job. Yeah think I'd agree with that statement, Feels like a big mistake. Probably got some post traumatic stress from our dealings in the past, signing players from other English clubs for extortionate prices and ultimately being let down 9/10 times |
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Post by rowleyscfc on Jul 30, 2024 8:36:26 GMT
It takes all sorts to make a team and in the championship the TEAM is the most important ingredient Give the bloke a chance FFS I'm more than open to eating my words, i want him to succeed. Just drab aint it, signing players we know everything about. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 30, 2024 8:38:43 GMT
It takes all sorts to make a team and in the championship the TEAM is the most important ingredient Give the bloke a chance FFS I'm more than open to eating my words, i want him to succeed. Just drab aint it, signing players we know everything about. None of us know what’s ahead mate and like I said the most important thing in the championship is team ethic,it’s been proved time and time again in this league. |
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Post by rowleyscfc on Jul 30, 2024 8:38:52 GMT
Hull fans hated him. Might be too early to talk but the links aren't exactly filling me with excitement. Bocat aside we've just shopped in the championship, and not even the decent players available in the champ (Bocat 100% a Dublin singing as we went for him in Jan) Our best signings last year we're all foreign brought, There's zero value in buying from the English leagues. Think Walter's may have got this one wrong. That's just guess work though. No one knows what's going on and who we are looking at. I feel like they think we struggled last year due to lack of championship, so this transfer window the agenda was bring in Championship experienced players. When in fact our championship experienced players were the problem last year |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 30, 2024 8:40:30 GMT
It takes all sorts to make a team and in the championship the TEAM is the most important ingredient Give the bloke a chance FFS I'm more than open to eating my words, i want him to succeed. Just drab aint it, signing players we know everything about. It won't be drab if we're playing well and winning games ultimately. For every Bae Junho there's a Dick Schreuder, yes there's more excitement when an unknown from abroad but it's about finding XI players that can gel as a team........ |
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Post by rowleyscfc on Jul 30, 2024 8:40:52 GMT
I'm more than open to eating my words, i want him to succeed. Just drab aint it, signing players we know everything about. None of us know what’s ahead mate and like I said the most important thing in the championship is team ethic,it’s been proved time and time again in this league. I agree, majority of the promoted clubs of recent times havent shopped in the English leagues though |
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Post by rowleyscfc on Jul 30, 2024 8:41:51 GMT
I'm more than open to eating my words, i want him to succeed. Just drab aint it, signing players we know everything about. It won't be drab if we're playing well and winning games ultimately. For every Bae Junho there's a Dick Schreuder, yes there's more excitement when an unknown from abroad but it's about finding XI players that can gel as a team........ It won't, that's all we all want at the end of the day. |
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Post by caine on Jul 30, 2024 8:46:50 GMT
Fuck me, Dublin the messiah. Worst league finish since we come down …
Honestly I do worry about some of our fans sometimes
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Post by idle on Jul 30, 2024 8:47:20 GMT
Not looking good, we seem to be chasing the same average championship plodders as everyone else. We're not even looking at L1 or L2 players it seems. And other than totally leftfield rumours we're not looking abroad either. BUT, its's a full month left of the the transfer window. I'll wait until then before I pass judgement. As for Walters; loved him as a player, but I'm sceptical as a director. He "deserves" another year though, the TD/SD role is a long term thing. You’ve no idea who we are chasing. Wait till the end of the window and then let’s see where we are at. Yeah, I said that, didn't I? |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jul 30, 2024 8:47:34 GMT
Hull fans hated him. Might be too early to talk but the links aren't exactly filling me with excitement. Bocat aside we've just shopped in the championship, and not even the decent players available in the champ (Bocat 100% a Dublin singing as we went for him in Jan) Our best signings last year we're all foreign brought, There's zero value in buying from the English leagues. Think Walter's may have got this one wrong. When are school holidays over? |
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 30, 2024 8:48:10 GMT
Lol, when Dublin joined he and the club were slaughtered. Now he's the next Monchi.
Standard SCFC fan modus operandi - piss knickers before a ball kicked.
I used to be the same, now realised it's a pointless exercise.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 30, 2024 8:48:53 GMT
Like Walters, we'll need to give him at least 12 months before forming a judgement on what he's about. The club are clearly targeting the British market and being honest and truthful, I don't think thats going to be easy to judge as the players are well known and everyone is after the same players. Therefore it's hard to judge how good he is at spotting talent and how good he is at recruiting them given you are limited by budget. The one possible area where we can judge early doors (post September) is how we've used the young loan market as that is apparently one of his specialist areas with contacts. The bigger issue will be higher up with the owner and Walters and why we've moved on from a continental specialist to one that probably isn't. There should have been room for both at a club like ours with a dual approach but ultimately that's not Darnbrough's fault. He's been brought in to do a certain job. Absolutely we just can’t judge but we’ll all have our initial feelings on both appointments and the binning of JD. We seem to be getting far too entrenched yet again. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 30, 2024 8:49:18 GMT
If an overseas player is available,& is better & cheaper than a homegrown one,I'm sure Shuey & JW will go down that route,if not they need their heads looking at.
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Post by themistocles on Jul 30, 2024 8:50:35 GMT
LD was such a stale appointment and cannot be considered an ambitious one.
There's a reason why Hull let him go and are now fishing in the continental market.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 30, 2024 8:51:19 GMT
LD was such a stale appointment and cannot be considered an ambitious one. There's a reason why Hull let him go and are now fishing in the continental market. We'll finish above them. |
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Post by baconburger on Jul 30, 2024 8:51:53 GMT
Fuck me, Dublin the messiah. Worst league finish since we come down … Honestly I do worry about some of our fans sometimes JD was responsible for identifying players which he did a very good job of once you strip out the clear AN and SS led deals. Do you think his role somehow gave him the power to stop them signing those players?? |
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Post by themistocles on Jul 30, 2024 8:54:24 GMT
There is a clear divide on who were JDs signings and who were SS and ANs.
The problem was interference from the Head coach in recruitment, its why JD left. Rinse and repeat for us.
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Post by Caddick988 on Jul 30, 2024 8:55:34 GMT
I don't remember Ipswich buying lots of overseas players last season and they seemed to do just fine. It's still very early days, I'm sure Darnbrough has got his own ideas and we'll hopefully see a well assembled squad come the end of the transfer window.
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Post by rowleyscfc on Jul 30, 2024 8:56:31 GMT
Hull fans hated him. Might be too early to talk but the links aren't exactly filling me with excitement. Bocat aside we've just shopped in the championship, and not even the decent players available in the champ (Bocat 100% a Dublin singing as we went for him in Jan) Our best signings last year we're all foreign brought, There's zero value in buying from the English leagues. Think Walter's may have got this one wrong. When are school holidays over? Why no one been there when you've been lingering around the gates? |
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 30, 2024 8:58:03 GMT
There is a clear divide on who were JDs signings and who were SS and ANs. The problem was interference from the Head coach in recruitment, its why JD left. Rinse and repeat for us. Unless you work for the club, I don’t see how on earth you would know this? |
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Post by baconburger on Jul 30, 2024 8:58:04 GMT
There is a clear divide on who were JDs signings and who were SS and ANs. The problem was interference from the Head coach in recruitment, its why JD left. Rinse and repeat for us. It wasn’t interference JD was not even a part of the technical board that made the ultimate decisions on transfers he merely reported to them. Not sure if this situation has changed with Darnbrough but the my prior statement came from the mouth of JC in one of those panel things with him AN RM and SK. |
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Post by rowleyscfc on Jul 30, 2024 9:01:57 GMT
Fuck me, Dublin the messiah. Worst league finish since we come down … Honestly I do worry about some of our fans sometimes Burger, Jun ho and Million going earn us more dough than we spent under Rowett. |
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