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Post by sticky on Aug 21, 2024 10:35:10 GMT
How longs he likely to be out for? I think I heard 'November' which I take to be in the new year! He'll need to do another pre-season won't he? Must be pretty bad if he’s out for that long
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Post by stokienorthants on Aug 21, 2024 12:25:49 GMT
I heard that he got injured on a Question of Sport!
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Post by thestatusquo on Aug 21, 2024 14:32:46 GMT
It would be interesting to no exactly what they did on the medical. One would hope that they at least did an MRI on the affected leg which (if read correctly) would pick up any issues?
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 22, 2024 16:34:39 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-injury-news-wba-9503747Enda Stevens (calf) could be back as soon as next week but is perhaps looking more like being eased back during the international break, when summer signing Sam Gallagher (calf) is also hoping to be back in training. "Enda could potentially have some part to play in the Plymouth game but we have to assess if that's wise because we're going into an international break so it might be worth him getting an in-house game or some real good training in that time when we haven't got a fixture. Sam is similar, probably a week behind Enda"
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Post by delilahwhy on Aug 22, 2024 16:39:13 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-injury-news-wba-9503747Enda Stevens (calf) could be back as soon as next week but is perhaps looking more like being eased back during the international break, when summer signing Sam Gallagher (calf) is also hoping to be back in training. "Enda could potentially have some part to play in the Plymouth game but we have to assess if that's wise because we're going into an international break so it might be worth him getting an in-house game or some real good training in that time when we haven't got a fixture. Sam is similar, probably a week behind Enda" Positive 👍
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Post by lordb on Aug 22, 2024 16:47:38 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-injury-news-wba-9503747Enda Stevens (calf) could be back as soon as next week but is perhaps looking more like being eased back during the international break, when summer signing Sam Gallagher (calf) is also hoping to be back in training. "Enda could potentially have some part to play in the Plymouth game but we have to assess if that's wise because we're going into an international break so it might be worth him getting an in-house game or some real good training in that time when we haven't got a fixture. Sam is similar, probably a week behind Enda" What would be better than an ad hoc in house game would be a bone fide competitive reserve league
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 23, 2024 11:35:56 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-injury-news-wba-9503747Enda Stevens (calf) could be back as soon as next week but is perhaps looking more like being eased back during the international break, when summer signing Sam Gallagher (calf) is also hoping to be back in training. "Enda could potentially have some part to play in the Plymouth game but we have to assess if that's wise because we're going into an international break so it might be worth him getting an in-house game or some real good training in that time when we haven't got a fixture. Sam is similar, probably a week behind Enda" Positive 👍 My guess stevens will play at plymouth if we lose the next 2 gallagher after the break
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Post by UNKLE on Aug 31, 2024 8:42:58 GMT
In isolation it was seen as uninspiring and maybe a backward step of a signing.
Now the window has shut and we can see the full extent of our forward line I think he’ll prove to be a great foil for Koumas, Cannon and Million.
It could be very astute. Trust in the NEW process.
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Post by senojbor on Sept 29, 2024 18:38:12 GMT
A tiny bit of positivity from the Boro game is that he looked sharp when he came on. Got his head to a corner but it went over. He was looking to play off the shoulder of Ayling but our midfielders failed on two or three occasions to see him or release him. He shook his head on one occasion when the ball he was expecting went back. Think he should start against Pompey along with Sidibe
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Post by lordb on Sept 29, 2024 18:40:53 GMT
A tiny bit of positivity from the Boro game is that he looked sharp when he came on. Got his head to a corner but it went over. He was looking to play off the shoulder of Ayling but our midfielders failed on two or three occasions to see him or release him. He shook his head on one occasion when the ball he was expecting went back. Think he should start against Pompey along with Sidibe Was at the game and yes he looked keen however very noticeable he didn't get into goal scoring positions on the few occasions we got crosses in Really poor header from a corner too
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 29, 2024 18:43:01 GMT
A tiny bit of positivity from the Boro game is that he looked sharp when he came on. Got his head to a corner but it went over. He was looking to play off the shoulder of Ayling but our midfielders failed on two or three occasions to see him or release him. He shook his head on one occasion when the ball he was expecting went back. Think he should start against Pompey along with Sidibe Was at the game and yes he looked keen however very noticeable he didn't get into goal scoring positions on the few occasions we got crosses in Really poor header from a corner too I’m starting him against Portsmouth
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Post by smithypotter on Sept 29, 2024 18:52:41 GMT
Can't be any worse than Cannon. If we were still playing SS ball I'd start either him or Koumas up top with Bae (Bae shouldn't be in the midfield 3) and Million either side.
Gallagher/Koumas would have been an ideal rotation for the centre forward spot depending on how the game unfolds, Gallagher bringing others into play or Koumas to stretch the opposition back line. I have no idea how we set up now though, Koumas is wasted on the wing.
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Post by potter25 on Sept 29, 2024 18:55:15 GMT
A tiny bit of positivity from the Boro game is that he looked sharp when he came on. Got his head to a corner but it went over. He was looking to play off the shoulder of Ayling but our midfielders failed on two or three occasions to see him or release him. He shook his head on one occasion when the ball he was expecting went back. Think he should start against Pompey along with Sidibe Yes I noticed this and for the period Koumas was in the middle Seemed like they were expecting a through ball but it never came
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 29, 2024 19:04:42 GMT
Can't be any worse than Cannon. If we were still playing SS ball I'd start either him or Koumas up top with Bae (Bae shouldn't be in the midfield 3) and Million either side. Gallagher/Koumas would have been an ideal rotation for the centre forward spot depending on how the game unfolds, Gallagher bringing others into play or Koumas to stretch the opposition back line. I have no idea how we set up now though, Koumas is wasted on the wing. Speaking to a Liverpool supporting mate Koumas is more effective through the middle, I’d me happy to see him playing off someone but who has any success playing two up front these days? 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by thornestein on Sept 29, 2024 19:07:57 GMT
Can't be any worse than Cannon. If we were still playing SS ball I'd start either him or Koumas up top with Bae (Bae shouldn't be in the midfield 3) and Million either side. Gallagher/Koumas would have been an ideal rotation for the centre forward spot depending on how the game unfolds, Gallagher bringing others into play or Koumas to stretch the opposition back line. I have no idea how we set up now though, Koumas is wasted on the wing. Speaking to a Liverpool supporting mate Koumas is more effective through the middle, I’d me happy to see him playing off someone but who has any success playing two up front these days? 🤷🏻♂️ strange as the couple liverpool supporters i’ve spoke to say he’s best coming in off the left 🤷♂️
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 29, 2024 19:11:09 GMT
Speaking to a Liverpool supporting mate Koumas is more effective through the middle, I’d me happy to see him playing off someone but who has any success playing two up front these days? 🤷🏻♂️ strange as the couple liverpool supporters i’ve spoke to say he’s best coming in off the left 🤷♂️ Right bunch of contradictory twats aren’t they?🤣
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Post by thornestein on Sept 29, 2024 19:13:46 GMT
strange as the couple liverpool supporters i’ve spoke to say he’s best coming in off the left 🤷♂️ Right bunch of contradictory twats aren’t they?🤣 actually yes , biggest two faced fuckers around
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 29, 2024 19:14:20 GMT
strange as the couple liverpool supporters i’ve spoke to say he’s best coming in off the left 🤷♂️ Right bunch of contradictory twats aren’t they?🤣 He's better down the middle. He's a goalscorer.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 29, 2024 19:16:33 GMT
Right bunch of contradictory twats aren’t they?🤣 He's better down the middle. He's a goalscorer. Yes that’s what I was told and what I’ve seen more of on his highlight reel
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Post by idle on Sept 29, 2024 19:29:21 GMT
Right bunch of contradictory twats aren’t they?🤣 He's better down the middle. He's a goalscorer. That's what makes us so bonkers, we could be playing Gally, Koumas and Million up front playing attacking football. But noooo, we're playing a 4-4-1-1 trying to pass it out from the back to a single striker. You couldn't make it up.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 29, 2024 19:32:26 GMT
He's better down the middle. He's a goalscorer. That's what makes us so bonkers, we could be playing Gally, Koumas and Million up front playing attacking football. But noooo, we're playing a 4-4-1-1 trying to pass it out from the back to a single striker. You couldn't make it up. The players are clearly absolutely bamboozled by the new managers approach. I haven’t lost hope but you have to think it will need to turn around quicker than the current cruise liner of a team to have the desired effect
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Post by smithypotter on Sept 29, 2024 19:35:54 GMT
Can't be any worse than Cannon. If we were still playing SS ball I'd start either him or Koumas up top with Bae (Bae shouldn't be in the midfield 3) and Million either side. Gallagher/Koumas would have been an ideal rotation for the centre forward spot depending on how the game unfolds, Gallagher bringing others into play or Koumas to stretch the opposition back line. I have no idea how we set up now though, Koumas is wasted on the wing. Speaking to a Liverpool supporting mate Koumas is more effective through the middle, I’d me happy to see him playing off someone but who has any success playing two up front these days? 🤷🏻♂️ The West Brom match alone is enough to suggest that Koumas should be playing through the middle. He has pace to burn and the timing of his runs is good to stretch the play, West Broms backline were having a mare with him despite us losing the match. Gallagher has played on the wing at Blackburn and he'd atleast bring arial presence to cause some problems. Unless we find a way to get Koumas into the game on the left side he should be up top and use Gallagher as an outlet to knock balls down on the right side perhaps? We're not getting it up the pitch fast enough to stretch the opposition so it's futile regardless because of Pelach's hard on for possession football. Take Burger out the midfield whilst we're at it, put Sidibe in there we might actually see some play in the opposition half and ask questions of opposition defenders. Just looking back at the West Brom highlights yes it was one game in isolation but my word it was miles ahead of whatever we're doing now, I'd rather see us relegated for being shit infront of goal but atleast we might actually see some flash points in the opposition box.
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Post by lordb on Sept 29, 2024 19:39:01 GMT
Speaking to a Liverpool supporting mate Koumas is more effective through the middle, I’d me happy to see him playing off someone but who has any success playing two up front these days? 🤷🏻♂️ The West Brom match alone is enough to suggest that Koumas should be playing through the middle. He has pace to burn and the timing of his runs is good to stretch the play, West Broms backline were having a mare with him despite us losing the match. Gallagher has played on the wing at Blackburn and he'd atleast bring arial presence to cause some problems. Unless we find a way to get Koumas into the game on the left side he should be up top and use Gallagher as an outlet to knock balls down on the right side perhaps? We're not getting it up the pitch fast enough to stretch the opposition so it's futile regardless because of Pelach's hard on for possession football. Take Burger out the midfield whilst we're at it, put Sidibe in there we might actually see some play in the opposition half and ask questions of opposition defenders. Just looking back at the West Brom highlights yes it was one game in isolation but my word it was miles ahead of whatever we're doing now, I'd rather see us relegated for being shit infront of goal but atleast we might actually see some flash points in the opposition box. Gallagher wasn't good when played left wing though according to Rovers fans Play 442, sure you lose something in the midfield but whatever you do you lose something somewhere This obsession with copying Guardiola is killing football
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Post by smithypotter on Sept 29, 2024 19:41:51 GMT
The West Brom match alone is enough to suggest that Koumas should be playing through the middle. He has pace to burn and the timing of his runs is good to stretch the play, West Broms backline were having a mare with him despite us losing the match. Gallagher has played on the wing at Blackburn and he'd atleast bring arial presence to cause some problems. Unless we find a way to get Koumas into the game on the left side he should be up top and use Gallagher as an outlet to knock balls down on the right side perhaps? We're not getting it up the pitch fast enough to stretch the opposition so it's futile regardless because of Pelach's hard on for possession football. Take Burger out the midfield whilst we're at it, put Sidibe in there we might actually see some play in the opposition half and ask questions of opposition defenders. Just looking back at the West Brom highlights yes it was one game in isolation but my word it was miles ahead of whatever we're doing now, I'd rather see us relegated for being shit infront of goal but atleast we might actually see some flash points in the opposition box. Gallagher wasn't good when played left wing though according to Rovers fans Play 442, sure you lose something in the midfield but whatever you do you lose something somewhere This obsession with copying Guardiola is killing football I hate the notion that 442 is an outdated setup. Football is a simple game, Leicesters premiership title season proved that even if it was a complete fluke. I stated in another thread that I wouldn't want to see Burger in a midfield 2 though he's bad enough as is already in a 3. It has to be Sidibe/Moran + Thompson until Lawal is fit. Thompson has been poor and he is squad player at best but the balance will be messed up unless Seko has an engine in him to play the role?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 29, 2024 19:42:11 GMT
Speaking to a Liverpool supporting mate Koumas is more effective through the middle, I’d me happy to see him playing off someone but who has any success playing two up front these days? 🤷🏻♂️ The West Brom match alone is enough to suggest that Koumas should be playing through the middle. He has pace to burn and the timing of his runs is good to stretch the play, West Broms backline were having a mare with him despite us losing the match. Gallagher has played on the wing at Blackburn and he'd atleast bring arial presence to cause some problems. Unless we find a way to get Koumas into the game on the left side he should be up top and use Gallagher as an outlet to knock balls down on the right side perhaps? We're not getting it up the pitch fast enough to stretch the opposition so it's futile regardless because of Pelach's hard on for possession football. Take Burger out the midfield whilst we're at it, put Sidibe in there we might actually see some play in the opposition half and ask questions of opposition defenders. Just looking back at the West Brom highlights yes it was one game in isolation but my word it was miles ahead of whatever we're doing now, I'd rather see us relegated for being shit infront of goal but atleast we might actually see some flash points in the opposition box. Burger has downed tools for me. Sidibe has been wasteful in possession when he’s played but there is a far better player to come out with a regular run of games. I’d have absolutely no hesitation in dropping Burger and Junho and bringing in Sidibe and Seko (even though I’ve never seen him play you just know he will be a hard worker as all Japanese players are) Sidibe, Seko and Moran behind a front three gives us more mobility and protection for the back four, we are unbelievably weak in the midfield and this affects defence and attack
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 29, 2024 20:16:20 GMT
He's better down the middle. He's a goalscorer. That's what makes us so bonkers, we could be playing Gally, Koumas and Million up front playing attacking football. But noooo, we're playing a 4-4-1-1 trying to pass it out from the back to a single striker. You couldn't make it up. We didn't need Cannon and I was very vocal about it at the time.
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Post by senojbor on Sept 29, 2024 21:23:09 GMT
A tiny bit of positivity from the Boro game is that he looked sharp when he came on. Got his head to a corner but it went over. He was looking to play off the shoulder of Ayling but our midfielders failed on two or three occasions to see him or release him. He shook his head on one occasion when the ball he was expecting went back. Think he should start against Pompey along with Sidibe Was at the game and yes he looked keen however very noticeable he didn't get into goal scoring positions on the few occasions we got crosses in Really poor header from a corner too Thought the cross was a bit high for him to be fair. I'd give him a start on Wednesday, what the hell
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Post by lordb on Sept 29, 2024 21:38:59 GMT
Was at the game and yes he looked keen however very noticeable he didn't get into goal scoring positions on the few occasions we got crosses in Really poor header from a corner too Thought the cross was a bit high for him to be fair. I'd give him a start on Wednesday, what the hell To be fair it makes no difference who is up front given 75% of the play will be around our own penalty area
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Post by idle on Sept 30, 2024 6:45:58 GMT
That's what makes us so bonkers, we could be playing Gally, Koumas and Million up front playing attacking football. But noooo, we're playing a 4-4-1-1 trying to pass it out from the back to a single striker. You couldn't make it up. We didn't need Cannon and I was very vocal about it at the time. Not so sure, we needed someone(TM). Cannon is a very different kind of player than both Gally and Koumas, so he'd be an option up front. We have Gally, Koumas, Million, Cannon and Junho as players for a front three, which are good options and five attackers are neccessary for a long season. Include Tezgel and we're well covered. They're all useless if we don't get the ball up to them though.
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 30, 2024 7:05:17 GMT
Gallagher wasn't good when played left wing though according to Rovers fans Play 442, sure you lose something in the midfield but whatever you do you lose something somewhere This obsession with copying Guardiola is killing football I hate the notion that 442 is an outdated setup. Football is a simple game, Leicesters premiership title season proved that even if it was a complete fluke. I stated in another thread that I wouldn't want to see Burger in a midfield 2 though he's bad enough as is already in a 3. It has to be Sidibe/Moran + Thompson until Lawal is fit. Thompson has been poor and he is squad player at best but the balance will be messed up unless Seko has an engine in him to play the role? Said the same but apparently you can’t play that system anymore
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