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Post by ravey123 on Sept 22, 2024 8:25:05 GMT
Steel bars wrapped all around me… 🙂 Looks like 2 people who don’t know what they are doing
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 22, 2024 8:47:44 GMT
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Post by delilahwhy on Sept 22, 2024 8:53:04 GMT
Hes just doubling down. We're in scary territory. Most understand that. I hope I'm wrong but I think we're in a relegation battle already.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 22, 2024 8:58:36 GMT
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Post by mamathestriker on Sept 22, 2024 9:03:22 GMT
Hes just doubling down. We're in scary territory. Most understand that. I hope I'm wrong but I think we're in a relegation battle already. At the moment it feels like we're much closer to a potential relegation battle than even threatening the top half of the table. It'll be interesting to see if the new guy gets a tune out of us. Walters is starting to really get on my nerves though.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Sept 22, 2024 9:16:44 GMT
He's in the media more than David Beckham.
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Post by pavel on Sept 22, 2024 9:17:51 GMT
All about him as usual, I’m sick of the sight of seeing and hearing him. I’ve never known a DOF who been so visible, very concerning.
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Post by delilahwhy on Sept 22, 2024 9:28:15 GMT
All about him as usual, I’m sick of the sight of seeing and hearing him. I’ve never known a DOF who been so visible, very concerning. It's the Jonny Walters show. Has been ever since he arrived.
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Post by dutchstokie on Sept 22, 2024 9:36:13 GMT
I really hope he delivers for his own credibility and standing in the game….. he’s lining himself to be a colossal failure if he doesn’t
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Post by ceejays on Sept 22, 2024 9:50:55 GMT
So he sits in a meet the manager meeting and states the benefits of working together as a team when all along he’s plotting to get rid of SS . That’s so deceitful. Best not say what he said . Now he looks like a very untrustworthy person . Sacking first Jared and now SS . He wants and will achieve a team of yes men . His word will not be challenged. It’s a recipe for failure. So we bring in another inexperienced guy who has never reached any heights as such to work with an inexperienced DOF . Well after the first match I’m not impressed. Hull like every team this season suss us out by half time . Hull realised Junior is a big big weakness and millar ran him ragged . A half time change by Hull that Chico didn’t spot . And did sweet nothing about . Tezgel ? Really ? Every middle manager now at Stoke will say they are a Walters man . Unfortunately we fans maybe not John
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Post by robrigo on Sept 22, 2024 9:53:00 GMT
I like Jon. Always have. I liked him as a player and I want this whole thing to succeed. There can be no denying that he wants it too. But, fuck me, it does feel like he’s got the keys to the whole club. He’s in the media way too much for me and that’s beginning to do my head in. Just get on with it and pipe down a bit!
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Sept 22, 2024 10:04:18 GMT
Why's he meeting John O'Shea? 😬
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Post by idle on Sept 22, 2024 10:18:45 GMT
And yet we won more than we lost. Do you even watch games? We finished 17th and it was shit. This season was looking even worse after getting absolutely played off the park at places like Watford and Oxford. Presumably you're going to start telling me his signings were really good too. Ennis? 😂 Yup, all under Super trooper Walters watch. And we were played off the park by the mighty Hull without him. Hell, we needed penalties against a fucking league two team. Wake the fuck up. Ennis was a desperation signing. All managers make them. Pulis had a fuckton! Still he hasn't been worse than crooked Gallagher or Cannon (yet). At least he's available. And being picked by NP and Shawcross as a sub. Yep, the future sure is bright...
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Post by idle on Sept 22, 2024 10:21:23 GMT
And yet we won more than we lost. Do you even watch games? won 13 lost 13 Yeah, I forgot the FA cup game. Still a better PPG than anyone since we came down. You can't just discard that.
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Post by thornestein on Sept 22, 2024 10:26:10 GMT
Yeah, I forgot the FA cup game. Still a better PPG than anyone since we came down. You can't just discard that. that’s just league according to wiki
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 22, 2024 10:29:44 GMT
Don't Carlisle and Boro count? Did we play our strongest 11 More pertinently did they? Certainly Middlesbrough picked a team full of youth players like we did. I'm waiting for us to lose to their first team next week and the comments afterwards that Schumacher won 5-0 there.
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Post by jeycov on Sept 22, 2024 10:29:45 GMT
We finished 17th and it was shit. This season was looking even worse after getting absolutely played off the park at places like Watford and Oxford. Presumably you're going to start telling me his signings were really good too. Ennis? 😂 Yup, all under Super trooper Walters watch. And we were played off the park by the mighty Hull without him. Hell, we needed penalties against a fucking league two team. Wake the fuck up. Ennis was a desperation signing. All managers make them. Pulis had a fuckton! Still he hasn't been worse than crooked Gallagher or Cannon (yet). At least he's available. And being picked by NP and Shawcross as a sub. Yep, the future sure is bright... The players looked shell shocked yesterday I hope that Walters doesn’t visit the changing room every game, especially at half time Our young players need lots of support right now, both from the senior ones and the fans We must look forward and not dwell on what has happened
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Post by thisisouryear on Sept 22, 2024 10:37:27 GMT
So he sits in a meet the manager meeting and states the benefits of working together as a team when all along he’s plotting to get rid of SS . That’s so deceitful. Best not say what he said . Now he looks like a very untrustworthy person . Sacking first Jared and now SS . He wants and will achieve a team of yes men . His word will not be challenged. It’s a recipe for failure. So we bring in another inexperienced guy who has never reached any heights as such to work with an inexperienced DOF . Well after the first match I’m not impressed. Hull like every team this season suss us out by half time . Hull realised Junior is a big big weakness and millar ran him ragged . A half time change by Hull that Chico didn’t spot . And did sweet nothing about . Tezgel ? Really ? Every middle manager now at Stoke will say they are a Walters man . Unfortunately we fans maybe not John Narcis has only had a few days with the team, it will take a few weeks before he knows what he is actually dealing with. In 10 games time we might be talking about how impressed we all are. There's lots not to like but we just have to go with it and hope it all works out in the end
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 22, 2024 10:37:38 GMT
So he sits in a meet the manager meeting and states the benefits of working together as a team when all along he’s plotting to get rid of SS . That’s so deceitful. Best not say what he said . Now he looks like a very untrustworthy person . Sacking first Jared and now SS . He wants and will achieve a team of yes men . His word will not be challenged. It’s a recipe for failure. So we bring in another inexperienced guy who has never reached any heights as such to work with an inexperienced DOF . Well after the first match I’m not impressed. Hull like every team this season suss us out by half time . Hull realised Junior is a big big weakness and millar ran him ragged . A half time change by Hull that Chico didn’t spot . And did sweet nothing about . Tezgel ? Really ? Every middle manager now at Stoke will say they are a Walters man . Unfortunately we fans maybe not John Pelach does not come over as a yes man. He may have asked for some advice on selection but I'm pretty sure he would have come up with the idea of Million in the middle and I suspect Walters would have picked Sidibe. He needs to be given time to assess the squad and I'm sure he learned a lot about the players' ability on Friday and about their character both during the match and in the analysis yesterday. The response to the defeat will tell us more about his coaching ability than the defeat did. Next week's selections will be interesting.
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Post by LGH87 on Sept 22, 2024 10:50:20 GMT
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Post by questionable on Sept 22, 2024 10:58:33 GMT
So he sits in a meet the manager meeting and states the benefits of working together as a team when all along he’s plotting to get rid of SS . That’s so deceitful. Best not say what he said . Now he looks like a very untrustworthy person . Sacking first Jared and now SS . He wants and will achieve a team of yes men . His word will not be challenged. It’s a recipe for failure. So we bring in another inexperienced guy who has never reached any heights as such to work with an inexperienced DOF . Well after the first match I’m not impressed. Hull like every team this season suss us out by half time . Hull realised Junior is a big big weakness and millar ran him ragged . A half time change by Hull that Chico didn’t spot . And did sweet nothing about . Tezgel ? Really ? Every middle manager now at Stoke will say they are a Walters man . Unfortunately we fans maybe not John Pelach does not come over as a yes man. He may have asked for some advice on selection but I'm pretty sure he would have come up with the idea of Million in the middle and I suspect Walters would have picked Sidibe. He needs to be given time to assess the squad and I'm sure he learned a lot about the players' ability on Friday and about their character both during the match and in the analysis yesterday. The response to the defeat will tell us more about his coaching ability than the defeat did. Next week's selections will be interesting. Regards the selection I’m afraid we’ve seriously restricted ourselves as there’s not a lot of room how we can change things around. Walters era was ten years ago and much like Stoke fixated on the past, I honestly can’t see him lasting the season and it’s incredible how the owners time and time again get things insanely wrong.
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 22, 2024 11:02:55 GMT
I wouldn't have sacked him , but it's not losing matches that some fans have struggled with. This season in the league we had a good 1st half against Coventry and a good away win at Plymouth, every other game we've looked as if we haven't a clue what we are doing. If the new manager isn't doing great after 5 games, which is now highly likely, should he get the boot? Or should we give him time because he's taken over a new squad, a bit like the last manager that had 10 players signed for him over the summer? Slightly different. Schumacher had most of last season with several players who should have been the framework to which he added new recruits. He couldn't convince Baker, Laurent, Campbell, Mmaee, Leris or Johnson to stay. He had worked with Burger, Junho, Million, Thompson, Wilmot, Rose, Junior, Ennis, Mmaee, Vidigal. All young players but did any of them improve under his tenure or look as if they knew what they were supposed to be doing? Only Sidibe can claim to be better this year and he spent the end of last season back in the u21's. His coaching team had all season so far to watch opponents and prepare for upcoming matches. Pelach and his team had two days to watch Hull videos, (no live matches) and to coach Stoke in the way they wanted them to play. At least the corner routine had been effectively coached and was successful. Sitting opposite the dugout, I did notice by the way, that when we were awarded the corner, Pelach called one of his coaches to come and stand in the technical area and presumably shout instructions.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Sept 22, 2024 11:07:07 GMT
But we can't say that after he's had about 3 hours on the training ground with them can we? Fair enough if he's shit after 10 games. Your clutching at straws mate. Look at his CV for christ's sake Only three managers have got us in the top tier in my lifetime Tony Waddington Alan Durban Tony Pulis (and the idiot Coates family sacked him) Worst managerial appointment in our history You can lay alot of stuff at the Coates’ doorstep but sacking Pulis at the time they did was absolutely the right decision
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Post by bigvern on Sept 22, 2024 12:19:21 GMT
In my eyes Schumacher wasn't taking us anywhere and Walters is trying something new. That's fair enough to me. It possibly could go tits up but worth a punt.
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Post by idle on Sept 22, 2024 12:26:49 GMT
Yeah, I forgot the FA cup game. Still a better PPG than anyone since we came down. You can't just discard that. that’s just league according to wiki I got 9 wins last season, plus 2 in the league and 2 in the cup this season. 9 losses in the league + 1 FA cup last season, 3 this one.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Sept 22, 2024 12:40:53 GMT
In my eyes Schumacher wasn't taking us anywhere and Walters is trying something new. That's fair enough to me. It possibly could go tits up but worth a punt. There's a possibility Everton might win the Premier League this season, how much you having?
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Post by clarkeda on Sept 22, 2024 12:41:29 GMT
Lad should be in PR. It’s really starting to grate on me.
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Post by stokiedan17 on Sept 22, 2024 12:45:03 GMT
He’s in the media a lot but isn’t this the media requesting to interview him ?
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Post by bigvern on Sept 22, 2024 12:49:58 GMT
In my eyes Schumacher wasn't taking us anywhere and Walters is trying something new. That's fair enough to me. It possibly could go tits up but worth a punt. There's a possibility Everton might win the Premier League this season, how much you having? There's fuck all chance of Everton winning the league.
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 22, 2024 12:52:19 GMT
He’s in the media a lot but isn’t this the media requesting to interview him ? Yes, the one thing he can't be criticised for is increasing our media profile. People have stopped talking about us, and we have become just another boring mid table Championship team. As they say any publicity is good publicity and this appointment was so outside the box that it has got people paying attention to us again.
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