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Post by musik on Jul 19, 2024 8:54:52 GMT
Is this a kind of new marathon?
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Post by gawa on Jul 19, 2024 9:01:16 GMT
The Green party should be cutting ties with this individual after what we witnessed last night and serious questions need to be asked about his poisition as a public representative too. He was out there taking part in the riots and egging people on and suggesting the riot was justified with his only regret being it wasn't violent enough. Pretty sure he was trying to spur people on to cause more violence and trying to add as much fuel to the fire as possible from what I could see. As they say. Glad I'm not the only person on the forum you witnessed the damage which this apparent "public representative" was causing last night. Light and day difference from what other public figures at the scene were doing who actually made a positive difference and were there all night controlling the crowds unlike this man. |
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Post by cheadlepotter on Jul 19, 2024 9:04:36 GMT
At least these seemed to be a proper riot and not just an excuse to rob electronics stores like in other areas.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 19, 2024 9:07:54 GMT
The Green party should be cutting ties with this individual after what we witnessed last night and serious questions need to be asked about his poisition as a public representative too. He was out there taking part in the riots and egging people on and suggesting the riot was justified with his only regret being it wasn't violent enough. Pretty sure he was trying to spur people on to cause more violence and trying to add as much fuel to the fire as possible from what I could see. As they say. Glad I'm not the only person on the forum you witnessed the damage which this apparent "public representative" was causing last night. Light and day difference from what other public figures at the scene were doing who actually made a positive difference and were there all night controlling the crowds unlike this man. |
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Post by musik on Jul 19, 2024 9:10:28 GMT
The most important question remains unanswered in this thread:
Did the social services do the right thing?
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Post by salopstick on Jul 19, 2024 9:13:13 GMT
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jul 19, 2024 9:17:17 GMT
And also proof that our democracy isn't suddenly going to come crashing down because a few brownish looking people started rioting. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 19, 2024 9:19:27 GMT
Good old Jezza showing his true colours |
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Post by gawa on Jul 19, 2024 9:21:12 GMT
The Green party should be cutting ties with this individual after what we witnessed last night and serious questions need to be asked about his poisition as a public representative too. He was out there taking part in the riots and egging people on and suggesting the riot was justified with his only regret being it wasn't violent enough. Pretty sure he was trying to spur people on to cause more violence and trying to add as much fuel to the fire as possible from what I could see. As they say. Glad I'm not the only person on the forum you witnessed the damage which this apparent "public representative" was causing last night. Light and day difference from what other public figures at the scene were doing who actually made a positive difference and were there all night controlling the crowds unlike this man. Nah its true mate. Having taken on board wannabees views and reflected, I hold up my hands and I was wrong to defend him yesterday. He clearly justifies the Riots through his words in an interview and in turn is clearly inciting violence. The videos of him "helping" are probably staged because of the criticism he rightly go. I'd also like to take this opportunity to apologise to wannabee for my earlier comments. He was right and I was wrong and therefore I owe him an apology. The man is clearly hot helping the situation and anyone who tries to justify that violence shouldn't be in public office. |
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Post by gawa on Jul 19, 2024 9:27:50 GMT
Another public representative not fit for office who is trying to justify this violence and allege there is misinformation. Another apologist for violence, I hope he has the whip removed.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 19, 2024 9:29:09 GMT
The Green party should be cutting ties with this individual after what we witnessed last night and serious questions need to be asked about his poisition as a public representative too. He was out there taking part in the riots and egging people on and suggesting the riot was justified with his only regret being it wasn't violent enough. Pretty sure he was trying to spur people on to cause more violence and trying to add as much fuel to the fire as possible from what I could see. As they say. Glad I'm not the only person on the forum you witnessed the damage which this apparent "public representative" was causing last night. Light and day difference from what other public figures at the scene were doing who actually made a positive difference and were there all night controlling the crowds unlike this man. After spreading his bile and getting caught out |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 19, 2024 9:46:09 GMT
At least these seemed to be a proper riot and not just an excuse to rob electronics stores like in other areas. About time we had an old school riot....... |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 19, 2024 9:55:54 GMT
Another public representative not fit for office who is trying to justify this violence and allege there is misinformation. Another apologist for violence, I hope he has the whip removed. Farage is to be blame, no one else. |
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Post by wannabee on Jul 19, 2024 10:20:57 GMT
Many times people post videos in isolation that purport to fully reflect what has happened at a contentious event, you have done so in the past. Without understanding the context it is impossible to know what or more importantly why an event has taken place The only Official Statement I have seen so far from the Police is that they responded when a "disturbance" occurred which involved "agency workers" and "some children". The Police went on to say "crowds began to gather and a decision was taken to remove both the agency workers and the children to a safe place" Are you trying to say you know what the circumstances were that necessitated "Agency Workers and Children" being at the scene of a "disturbance" which required them to be removed by the Police for their own safety. You can say categorically that this action was "mishandled" by the Police and the Agency Workers as claimed by you and the Councilor? Moreover trying to justify the mayhem and thuggery that subsequently occurred because of the "Mishandling" is warped. And get over yourself being all indignant demanding apologies, if you post Bollocks expect to be called out on it. You have a personal issue with me. You stalk me on this forum desperate to try and one up me at any opportunity. It's boring. Keep trying to put words in my mouth and telling everyone about all the great work the labour councillor did at the scene to calm the situation by recording a random video and fucking off. And how it's light and day difference from the guy putting out fires, controlling crowds and telling people to stop burning their communites  The same person who you allege that he thinks the riots are justified by doing what you do best. Being manipulative and twisting peoples words to fit your agenda. I know I'm not going insane when I've had people reach out to me and acknowledge that you seem to have some sort of issue with me. But you keep doing you fella. You're paranoid, you are no more relevant to me than anyone else. I have no need to put words in your mouth I merely quoted your words when you parroted the Liberal Councilor by saying the situation was mishandled. You went on to express certainty that information would come out as to why the situation was mishandled. It may well happen, but you have no way of knowing at this time. I made no such claim that the Labour Councilor did great work, but corrected your claim that the Liberal Councilor was the "only Public Figure" at the scene when Salma Arif had very visibly, given the obvious time of day, made in my view a responsible statement urging people to stay in their homes much earlier than the Liberal Councilors contribution I don't need to allege anything about the Liberal Councilor. In the link you posted where the Liberal Councilor is being interviewed he clearly said that due to a lot of mishandling by Social Services and the Police it raised local tensions which resulted in the riot. He is clearly placing the blame on Social Services and the Police "mishandling" for the cause of the riot, you posted the link so presumably you agree with him |
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Post by gawa on Jul 19, 2024 10:37:50 GMT
You have a personal issue with me. You stalk me on this forum desperate to try and one up me at any opportunity. It's boring. Keep trying to put words in my mouth and telling everyone about all the great work the labour councillor did at the scene to calm the situation by recording a random video and fucking off. And how it's light and day difference from the guy putting out fires, controlling crowds and telling people to stop burning their communites The same person who you allege that he thinks the riots are justified by doing what you do best. Being manipulative and twisting peoples words to fit your agenda. I know I'm not going insane when I've had people reach out to me and acknowledge that you seem to have some sort of issue with me. But you keep doing you fella. You're paranoid, you are no more relevant to me than anyone else. I have no need to put words in your mouth I merely quoted your words when you parroted the Liberal Councilor by saying the situation was mishandled. You went on to express certainty that information would come out as to why the situation was mishandled. It may well happen, but you have no way of knowing at this time. I made no such claim that the Labour Councilor did great work, but corrected your claim that the Liberal Councilor was the "only Public Figure" at the scene when Salma Arif had very visibly, given the obvious time of day, made in my view a responsible statement urging people to stay in their homes much earlier than the Liberal Councilors contribution I don't need to allege anything about the Liberal Councilor. In the link you posted where the Liberal Councilor is being interviewed he clearly said that due to a lot of mishandling by Social Services and the Police it raised local tensions which resulted in the riot. He is clearly placing the blame on Social Services and the Police "mishandling" for the cause of the riot, you posted the link so presumably you agree with him Bore off. I've already apologised wannabee, you were right as you always are. The Councillor was inciting violence and inflamming tensions and only showed up at the day of night for a few photo opportunities. He clearly justifies and endorses the Riots as did myself. You're right mate. I'm sorry for falling for the misleading videos of him acting and trying to defuse the situation. Thank you for challenging me on the audacity to believe he was trying to help. As you said he is clearly endorsing violence and rioting. |
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Post by wannabee on Jul 19, 2024 10:42:43 GMT
Nah its true mate. Having taken on board wannabees views and reflected, I hold up my hands and I was wrong to defend him yesterday.
He clearly justifies the Riots through his words in an interview and in turn is clearly inciting violence. The videos of him "helping" are probably staged because of the criticism he rightly go.
I'd also like to take this opportunity to apologise to wannabee for my earlier comments. He was right and I was wrong and therefore I owe him an apology.
The man is clearly hot helping the situation and anyone who tries to justify that violence shouldn't be in public office.
Your hyperbolic hysteria only proves you don't read what people post and repost fantastical tales of what you think has been posted
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Post by wannabee on Jul 19, 2024 10:49:11 GMT
Bore off. I've already apologised wannabee, you were right as you always are. The Councillor was inciting violence and inflamming tensions and only showed up at the day of night for a few photo opportunities. He clearly justifies and endorses the Riots as did myself. You're right mate. I'm sorry for falling for the misleading videos of him acting and trying to defuse the situation. Thank you for challenging me on the audacity to believe he was trying to help. As you said he is clearly endorsing violence and rioting. More Fantasy Island stuff , anyway I'm done with it. |
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Post by gawa on Jul 19, 2024 11:07:35 GMT
Bore off. I've already apologised wannabee, you were right as you always are. The Councillor was inciting violence and inflamming tensions and only showed up at the day of night for a few photo opportunities. He clearly justifies and endorses the Riots as did myself. You're right mate. I'm sorry for falling for the misleading videos of him acting and trying to defuse the situation. Thank you for challenging me on the audacity to believe he was trying to help. As you said he is clearly endorsing violence and rioting. More Fantasy Island stuff , anyway I'm done with it. Maybe get a dictionary while you're at it and look up the definition of mishandled before you go around accusing people of endorsing rioting. |
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Post by gawa on Jul 19, 2024 11:21:17 GMT
A write up from novara media on the situation* novaramedia.com/2024/07/19/were-all-getting-attacked-how-disorder-broke-out-in-an-east-leeds-neighborhood/Presume another endorsement for rioting given they've reported that people feel the situation was mismanaged/mishandled by police. * Needs to be included anytime I reference their articles because a certain poster feels that because I've criticised them in the past I can't reference them. So need to include this disclaimer every time. Clearly me being paranoid though... about one specific poster who has a habit of specifically targeting and quoting me. Maybe they'll start calling huddy and Paul riot endorses soon for defending a councillors efforts. Lol of course they won't. Defo not personal in anyway just me being "paranoid" about one individuals obsession. |
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Post by andystokey on Jul 19, 2024 11:51:56 GMT
It's Harehills, anyone who knows Leeds (and I happen to know only too well),won't be surprised. There has been trouble there since the 1970s. It'd been a workhouse for cheap labour since 1890. The community is poor, housing is shit the unemployment is the worst in West Yorkshire and its a melting pot of crime, drugs and mixed races. It's no excuse but there are several places in the UK that have been ghettos for 60 years and no one gives a shit. The middle classes beat their chests once in a while when it gets to their breakfast table then they move on and get on with their comfortable lives. This has got feck all to do with the middle classes and them moving onto their "comfortable" lives. What are you on about...This is about failed government policies and mis spending of the taxes from all of us. Exactly, its a bit of a sideshow for most of those comfortable folk at breakfast. Who voted to do something to change it? Not many, they don't give a fuck, so long as the house is increasing in price and the pensions on the up they never even look. They'll forget about them by tomorrow after their fake indignation. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jul 19, 2024 12:03:08 GMT
Harehills, one letter away from being Hartshill! 🤔
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 19, 2024 12:35:28 GMT
This has got feck all to do with the middle classes and them moving onto their "comfortable" lives. What are you on about...This is about failed government policies and mis spending of the taxes from all of us. Exactly, its a bit of a sideshow for most of those comfortable folk at breakfast. Who voted to do something to change it? Not many, they don't give a fuck, so long as the house is increasing in price and the pensions on the up they never even look. They'll forget about them by tomorrow after their fake indignation. I don't think that's true at all. I'm not sure i remember which party I was supposed to vote for who said specifically that we will stop people tipping over police cars and setting buses on fire and acting like total scum bags. I'd like to think its a general consensus amongst most in our population to want some semblance of law, order and decency. Meaning by extension its something all political parties would promote because that's what all bar some absolute clowns would want. I could possibly think that there may be a few ultra wealthy out there so far removed from the reality of normal life that don't give a fuck. But your average hard working resident who possibly happen to live in a slightly bigger house and earn a few extra quid in my experience most certainly do give a fuck because it ain't a big stretch to see this spilling out into pretty much most areas. Its about failed government policy over decades not the fault of that twat in his or her 70 plate audi dropping the kids off at school heading off to do 10 hours at work to keep the family in their "comfortable" lives. |
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Post by foster on Jul 19, 2024 12:50:58 GMT
Quite simple...
Police/armed forces go in, beat the fuck out of the rioters and ship them out or stick them in a hole to rot.
Enough of this namby pamby sitting back and watching these low life's run riot and run loose whilst innocent people are scared to leave their homes at night.
Take them down by the harshest means necessary.
And that applies to all people that don't respect the law.
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Post by chamberlain on Jul 19, 2024 12:53:21 GMT
Another public representative not fit for office who is trying to justify this violence and allege there is misinformation. Another apologist for violence, I hope he has the whip removed. Farage is to be blame, no one else. Utter drivel |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 19, 2024 12:58:13 GMT
Quite simple... Police/armed forces go in, beat the fuck out of the rioters and ship them out or stick them in a hole to rot. Enough of this namby pamby sitting back and watching these low life's run riot and run loose whilst innocent people are scared to leave their homes at night. Take them down by the harshest means necessary.
And that applies to all people that don't respect the law. "The harshest means possible" What? Shoot all people who don't respect the law? That would include Boris Johnson, Rishi Sunak, all those people fined during Covid, in fact anyone ever convicted of anything.... |
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Post by foster on Jul 19, 2024 13:22:17 GMT
Quite simple... Police/armed forces go in, beat the fuck out of the rioters and ship them out or stick them in a hole to rot. Enough of this namby pamby sitting back and watching these low life's run riot and run loose whilst innocent people are scared to leave their homes at night. Take them down by the harshest means necessary.
And that applies to all people that don't respect the law. "The harshest means possible" What? Shoot all people who don't respect the law? That would include Boris Johnson, Rishi Sunak, all those people fined during Covid, in fact anyone ever convicted of anything.... Shoot those fuckers rioting,looting and turning over police cars yeah. No problem. It'll teach others not to try it to do it in future. Could also be right wing EDL, not fussed either way. All I know is that I respect the law, as do 99% of people. The fewer of these trouble makers about the better. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 19, 2024 13:42:36 GMT
"The harshest means possible" What? Shoot all people who don't respect the law? That would include Boris Johnson, Rishi Sunak, all those people fined during Covid, in fact anyone ever convicted of anything.... Shoot those fuckers rioting,looting and turning over police cars yeah. No problem. It'll teach others not to try it to do it in future. Could also be right wing EDL, not fussed either way. All I know is that I respect the law, as do 99% of people. The fewer of these trouble makers about the better. With rubber bullets I'd be with you. Would at least give them something to think about. That said this is successive failure of govt policy. Too many neglected communities with bugger all for kids to do other than loiter and cause mither for kicks. I have a theory that sport is the way to go. Build all weather sporting facilities and community hubs in as many areas as possible so when out of school the youth have somewhere to go and something to do. Many will thrive many will be fitter. Some will go onto become role models by "making it". So many potential community leaders out there who just need the help and the facilities to allow them to be a focal point for the communities youth. Get local football clubs involved, rugby clubs. But it needs coordinated govt policy to make it happen at the level it needs for it to take root. When an area is a shithole it becomes an ever decreasing circle of despair and you get this kind of stuff happening. As kev Costner famously said. Build it and they will come... |
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Post by wannabee on Jul 19, 2024 14:04:50 GMT
As the soothsayer predicted more details are emerging as to what set off the Riots Social Workers went to remove Children from a Roumanian Family, it is not clear if a baby with a fractured skull was in the house or in Hospital which prompted the Social Workers action to remove another 4 children under 14. Clearly a safeguarding Mishandling by Social Workers and then the Police who went to assist them when they met obstruction The disturbing videos contained in the link clearly show men speaking Roumanian as they overturned the Police Car of the Mishandlers and vandalizing of the Bus www.biziday.ro/291095-2/ |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 19, 2024 14:19:24 GMT
Quite simple... Police/armed forces go in, beat the fuck out of the rioters and ship them out or stick them in a hole to rot. Enough of this namby pamby sitting back and watching these low life's run riot and run loose whilst innocent people are scared to leave their homes at night. Take them down by the harshest means necessary.
And that applies to all people that don't respect the law. "The harshest means possible" What? Shoot all people who don't respect the law? That would include Boris Johnson, Rishi Sunak, all those people fined during Covid, in fact anyone ever convicted of anything.... They weren’t smashing property up or setting fire to cars though. There’s between aggression and violence and idiots breaching covid. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 19, 2024 14:25:40 GMT
As the soothsayer predicted more details are emerging as to what set off the Riots Social Workers went to remove Children from a Roumanian Family, it is not clear if a baby with a fractured skull was in the house or in Hospital which prompted the Social Workers action to remove another 4 children under 14. Clearly a safeguarding Mishandling by Social Workers and then the Police who went to assist them when they met obstruction The disturbing videos contained in the link clearly show men speaking Roumanian as they overturned the Police Car of the Mishandlers and vandalizing of the Bus www.biziday.ro/291095-2/Hang on. Are you saying because actions were put in place to safeguard neglected children from abusive parents that it was the fault of social workers and police that this riot kicked off. Apologies if I'm mis understanding. |
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The same person who you allege that he thinks the riots are justified by doing what you do best. Being manipulative and twisting peoples words to fit your agenda.
