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Post by wannabee on Jul 19, 2024 14:50:38 GMT
As the soothsayer predicted more details are emerging as to what set off the Riots Social Workers went to remove Children from a Roumanian Family, it is not clear if a baby with a fractured skull was in the house or in Hospital which prompted the Social Workers action to remove another 4 children under 14. Clearly a safeguarding Mishandling by Social Workers and then the Police who went to assist them when they met obstruction The disturbing videos contained in the link clearly show men speaking Roumanian as they overturned the Police Car of the Mishandlers and vandalizing of the Bus www.biziday.ro/291095-2/Hang on. Are you saying because actions were put in place to safeguard neglected children from abusive parents that it was the fault of social workers and police that this riot kicked off. Apologies if I'm mis understanding. Maybe I applied too much subtlety But that is certainly what the Liberal Councilor and some posters have claimed would become apparent when more facts emerged i.e. the Social Workers and Police Mishandled the situation which led to a riot.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 19, 2024 14:53:19 GMT
Hang on. Are you saying because actions were put in place to safeguard neglected children from abusive parents that it was the fault of social workers and police that this riot kicked off. Apologies if I'm mis understanding. Maybe I applied too much subtlety But that is certainly what the Liberal Councilor and some posters have claimed would become apparent when more facts emerged i.e. the Social Workers and Police Mishandled the situation which led to a riot. Damned if you do and damned if you don't I suppose. I guess more detail will arrive soon..
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Post by steve66 on Jul 19, 2024 15:30:45 GMT
Send the fookers to Ukraine if they want fight, meat for the Russians
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Post by foster on Jul 19, 2024 15:46:51 GMT
Maybe I applied too much subtlety But that is certainly what the Liberal Councilor and some posters have claimed would become apparent when more facts emerged i.e. the Social Workers and Police Mishandled the situation which led to a riot. Damned if you do and damned if you don't I suppose. I guess more detail will arrive soon.. I don't care how badly it was handled (and I doubt that it was badly mishandled).... it doesn't excuse that behaviour. Make an official complaint if you have an issue. Argue with the person doing the mishandling, but don't go rioting for hours on end and torching buses. It's a poor excuse for totally unacceptable behaviour.
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Post by banksy1art on Jul 19, 2024 15:54:56 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 19, 2024 15:57:57 GMT
Damned if you do and damned if you don't I suppose. I guess more detail will arrive soon.. I don't care how badly it was handled (and I doubt that it was badly mishandled).... it doesn't excuse that behaviour. Make an official complaint if you have an issue. Argue with the person doing the mishandling, but don't go rioting for hours on end and torching buses. It's a poor excuse for totally unacceptable behaviour. I’m don’t believe the councillor explained why it was badly handled yet. When he made those comments he should have said why. It’s easy to blame others rather than look at yourself. As you say it should never be used as an excuse for violence.
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Post by foster on Jul 19, 2024 16:07:37 GMT
I don't care how badly it was handled (and I doubt that it was badly mishandled).... it doesn't excuse that behaviour. Make an official complaint if you have an issue. Argue with the person doing the mishandling, but don't go rioting for hours on end and torching buses. It's a poor excuse for totally unacceptable behaviour. I’m don’t believe the councillor explained why it was badly handled yet. When he made those comments he should have said why. It’s easy to blame others rather than look at yourself. As you say it should never be used as an excuse for violence. There's no excuses whatsoever. How this case was handled is immaterial. I don't get why its even getting any air time or discussion. The child protection person could have turned up naked doing a helicopter. It's still no excuse for all the shit that occurred after. The issue is the people doing the rioting and them getting away with it.
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Post by stokeson on Jul 19, 2024 16:12:32 GMT
It doesnt take much for the Facist Right to jump on board....
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Post by stokeson on Jul 19, 2024 16:16:11 GMT
It doesnt take much for the Facist Right to jump on board.... Zzzzzzzzz And here they come......................
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 19, 2024 16:16:51 GMT
And here they come...................... You calling Foster a facist? Interesting take
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Post by foster on Jul 19, 2024 16:18:56 GMT
And here they come...................... You calling Foster a facist? Interesting take What a plank he is. I despise Tommy.
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Post by stokeson on Jul 19, 2024 16:20:13 GMT
And here they come...................... You calling Foster a facist? Interesting take Why are you asking ? Is He? I was just comenting on the posters that will pile on anything that futhers the cause of Ukproudboyfan.
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Post by stokeson on Jul 19, 2024 16:20:53 GMT
You calling Foster a facist? Interesting take What a plank he is. I despise Tommy. I wasnot calling you for one moment......
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 19, 2024 16:21:13 GMT
I’m don’t believe the councillor explained why it was badly handled yet. When he made those comments he should have said why. It’s easy to blame others rather than look at yourself. As you say it should never be used as an excuse for violence. There's no excuses whatsoever. How this case was handled is immaterial. I don't get why its even getting any air time or discussion. The child protection person could have turned up naked doing a helicopter. It's still no excuse for all the shit that occurred after. The issue is the people doing the rioting and them getting away with it. He should be held to account for making the comments if there’s no substance to them as a councillor though.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 19, 2024 16:26:10 GMT
"The harshest means possible" What? Shoot all people who don't respect the law? That would include Boris Johnson, Rishi Sunak, all those people fined during Covid, in fact anyone ever convicted of anything.... They weren’t smashing property up or setting fire to cars though. There’s between aggression and violence and idiots breaching covid. Not according to our Fos. "Anyone who doesn't respect the law" which would very much include the law breakers Bozo and Sunak. Probably just the usual daft OTT hyperbole you often get on here, to be fair.
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Post by foster on Jul 19, 2024 16:28:21 GMT
There's no excuses whatsoever. How this case was handled is immaterial. I don't get why its even getting any air time or discussion. The child protection person could have turned up naked doing a helicopter. It's still no excuse for all the shit that occurred after. The issue is the people doing the rioting and them getting away with it. He should be held to account for making the comments if there’s no substance to them as a councillor though. I'm more bothered by the fact that the police had to retreat and nothing came to pass in terms of lawful retribution. A bit of social media self glorification can be dealt with separately. It's just one person but yes, his comments don't do him any favours, no matter how much he tries to dress them up and show that he's striving for peace. Blaming public servants and language issues. Prick.
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Post by foster on Jul 19, 2024 16:29:27 GMT
They weren’t smashing property up or setting fire to cars though. There’s between aggression and violence and idiots breaching covid. Not according to our Fos. "Anyone who doesn't respect the law" which would very much include the law breakers Bozo and Sunak. Probably just the usual daft OTT hyperbole you often get on here, to be fair. Yeah, holding people to account for breaking the law is OTT in RWB world.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 19, 2024 16:34:55 GMT
Not according to our Fos. "Anyone who doesn't respect the law" which would very much include the law breakers Bozo and Sunak. Probably just the usual daft OTT hyperbole you often get on here, to be fair. Yeah, holding people to account for breaking the law is OTT in Pressers world. Well I can't speak for prestwich but I think killing "anyone who doesn't respect the law" is also a bit over the top 😉
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Post by foster on Jul 19, 2024 16:36:47 GMT
Yeah, holding people to account for breaking the law is OTT in Pressers world. Well I can't speak for prestwich but I think killing "anyone who doesn't respect the law" is also a bit over the top 😉 Yeah I edited that ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) In any case, you're nitpicking. The jist of what I'm saying is valid and if you can interpret meaning and read between the lines then you'd agree.
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Post by banksy1art on Jul 19, 2024 16:40:33 GMT
It doesnt take much for the Facist Right to jump on board.... just a question, what in that video did he say that’s upset you?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 19, 2024 16:43:06 GMT
Well I can't speak for prestwich but I think killing "anyone who doesn't respect the law" is also a bit over the top 😉 Yeah I edited that ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) In any case, you're nitpicking. The jist of what I'm saying is valid and if you can interpret meaning and read between the lines then you'd agree. Maybe. I think hyperbolic OTT statements contribute to the overall problem, though. Everyone is so quick to over-react and reach for the extreme view, either literally in the rioters case or figuratively in the cases of those commenting online. It doesn't help.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 19, 2024 16:43:13 GMT
It doesnt take much for the Facist Right to jump on board.... just a question, what in that video did he say that’s upset you? Be careful mate the gang will be along lack a pack of hounds anytime soon😊then you’ll be known as racist banksy for having a different opinion and sharing Huddy’s mates tweet👍
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Post by banksy1art on Jul 19, 2024 16:49:33 GMT
just a question, what in that video did he say that’s upset you? Be careful mate the gang will be along lack a pack of hounds anytime soon😊then you’ll be known as racist banksy for having a different opinion and sharing Huddy’s mates tweet👍 I don’t get involved in politics for that very reason. But I just want a safe country for my kids and future grandkids but I’m a far right racist for that 🤔😂
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Post by sticky on Jul 19, 2024 16:51:24 GMT
It doesnt take much for the Facist Right to jump on board.... just a question, what in that video did he say that’s upset you? I must admit I'm intrigued as to how many people will be on this March on the 27th, I’m at the point where I barely believe a word on the news anymore, it’s all skewed to fit an agenda on one side or the other, so would be nice to get a feel for the atmosphere and crowd size.. alas I’ll be in Spain
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Post by wannabee on Jul 19, 2024 16:52:29 GMT
What a plank he is. I despise Tommy. I wasnot calling you for one moment...... If Farage were in his Clacton Constituency rather than in US attempting to insert his tongue as far up Trump's orifice as possible he may not have made a stupid comment that it was an imported Sub-Continent problem
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Post by foster on Jul 19, 2024 16:58:36 GMT
Yeah I edited that ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) In any case, you're nitpicking. The jist of what I'm saying is valid and if you can interpret meaning and read between the lines then you'd agree. Maybe. I think hyperbolic OTT statements contribute to the overall problem, though. Everyone is so quick to over-react and reach for the extreme view, either literally in the rioters case or figuratively in the cases of those commenting online. It doesn't help. I agree mate, but where do you draw the line? I'm fed up with seeing this unruly behaviour, lack of respect and chaos in the UK. We can keep debating and making excuses but that will just drag things out and things will get worse. You've seen the kids in that video. What example is doing nothing setting for them. I think the time for discussion is over and it's time for action.
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Post by questionable on Jul 19, 2024 16:59:17 GMT
Hang on. Are you saying because actions were put in place to safeguard neglected children from abusive parents that it was the fault of social workers and police that this riot kicked off. Apologies if I'm mis understanding. Maybe I applied too much subtlety But that is certainly what the Liberal Councilor and some posters have claimed would become apparent when more facts emerged i.e. the Social Workers and Police Mishandled the situation which led to a riot. Bull Shit how do you actually Mishandle removal of a child, they just don’t think I know let’s pop along to property A and remove whatever they feel like.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jul 19, 2024 17:06:48 GMT
Sometimes I wonder if events are faked in the news just to incite war on the Oatcake.
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Post by xchpotter on Jul 19, 2024 17:10:35 GMT
Hang on. Are you saying because actions were put in place to safeguard neglected children from abusive parents that it was the fault of social workers and police that this riot kicked off. Apologies if I'm mis understanding. Maybe I applied too much subtlety But that is certainly what the Liberal Councilor and some posters have claimed would become apparent when more facts emerged i.e. the Social Workers and Police Mishandled the situation which led to a riot. I’ve had dealings with a lot of social workers who are without doubt some of the most ineffective and risk averse decision makers out there as a profession. Therefore, if they were taking a child into care I’d suggest it was very clear cut because of the grief they get if they get it wrong. It seems to me that for them to use the powers they did there must have been a compelling need and on this occasion I’d suggest they’ve done the right thing. If it’s a child at risk, screw the upset to community and liberal interferences….child safeguarding takes priority over anything else.
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Post by foster on Jul 19, 2024 17:10:38 GMT
Maybe I applied too much subtlety But that is certainly what the Liberal Councilor and some posters have claimed would become apparent when more facts emerged i.e. the Social Workers and Police Mishandled the situation which led to a riot. Bull Shit how do you actually Mishandle removal of a child, they just don’t think I know let’s pop along to property A and remove whatever they feel like. It's obvious that whatever the police or social services did didn't lead to a riot isn't it mate. What led to the riot is a bunch of uneducated unintegrated disrespectful neanderthals knowing that they can use any excuse possible to cause unconsequential mayhem.
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