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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jun 1, 2024 13:44:29 GMT
Dixon is 17 for God’s sake. and I don’t think there’s anything I can say to persuade you so I’ll leave it there. |
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Post by Gawa on Jun 1, 2024 13:50:53 GMT
Was excellent at Boro a few years back.
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Post by baconburger on Jun 1, 2024 16:05:38 GMT
Was excellent at Boro a few years back. Probably an upgrade on Ciaran Clarke but I doubt he’s much of an upgrade if any on our first choice CB’s of last season ie McNally Rose & Wilmot. |
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Post by Veritas on Jun 1, 2024 16:23:30 GMT
Was excellent at Boro a few years back. Probably an upgrade on Ciaran Clarke but I doubt he’s much of an upgrade if any on our first choice CB’s of last season ie McNally Rose & Wilmot. He was a regular first choice for a top 6 team they all struggled in a bottom half team so obviously he's not an upgrade 🙄 |
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Post by baconburger on Jun 1, 2024 16:27:32 GMT
Probably an upgrade on Ciaran Clarke but I doubt he’s much of an upgrade if any on our first choice CB’s of last season ie McNally Rose & Wilmot. He was a regular first choice for a top 6 team they all struggled in a bottom half team so obviously he's not an upgrade 🙄 They conceded more than us and our defence was meant to be the worst many have ever seen. Go figure. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2024 16:58:29 GMT
He was a regular first choice for a top 6 team they all struggled in a bottom half team so obviously he's not an upgrade 🙄 They conceded more than us and our defence was meant to be the worst many have ever seen. Go figure. We just brought in a goalkeeper from a team who conceded a lot more than us as well, yet most on here seem to prefer him to Iversen and Bonham. |
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Post by stokefanone on Jun 1, 2024 17:00:49 GMT
He was a regular first choice for a top 6 team they all struggled in a bottom half team so obviously he's not an upgrade 🙄 They conceded more than us and our defence was meant to be the worst many have ever seen. Go figure. I don’t think our defence was that bad. We had a couple of heavy defeats where we conceded, but generally it was individual mistakes due mainly to constant changes and no leader at the back. Once we got a settled back 4/5 and a competent keeper we were reasonable. Gibson is experienced and still good at this level, The leader we missed last season maybe? |
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Post by baconburger on Jun 1, 2024 17:11:58 GMT
They conceded more than us and our defence was meant to be the worst many have ever seen. Go figure. We just brought in a goalkeeper from a team who conceded a lot more than us as well, yet most on here seem to prefer him to Iversen and Bonham. Teams that get relegated normally concede a fair number of goals. Norwich just got in the playoffs despite being unusually leaky. It’s been suggested by Cobham that maybe they were gung-ho and that’s why they conceded a lot but that doesn’t tally with what I saw of them. I don’t buy that a team that is fairly proficient in the top half is more vulnerable defensively. A Mark Hughes side regularly fielding Wollescied(sp?) conceded less goals than a Pulis side regularly featuring the likes of Shawcross, Faye, Huth. Why because being proficient at the top end of the pitch takes the pressure off the defence therefore Norwich’s defence is more likely to have been poorer than the stats suggest not better and we might be signing 2 of them to improve us. The others must have been fucking awful. |
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Post by bertiestan on Jun 1, 2024 18:15:03 GMT
I’d be delighted if he rocked up here on a free🔴⚪️
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Post by baconburger on Jun 1, 2024 18:32:54 GMT
I’d be delighted if he rocked up here on a free🔴⚪️ Must be easily pleased. |
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Post by bertiestan on Jun 1, 2024 18:37:04 GMT
I’d be delighted if he rocked up here on a free🔴⚪️ Must be easily pleased. Nowt up with him…very good defender in this division imo…leader in the dressing room and free…nowhere near past it🔴⚪️ |
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Post by robwahlmann on Jun 1, 2024 18:52:31 GMT
This sounds like an excellent deal for us and exactly what we need, but let's wait and see before we make our judgements on him. Time will tell anyway!  |
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Post by logdog on Jun 1, 2024 18:54:42 GMT
We just brought in a goalkeeper from a team who conceded a lot more than us as well, yet most on here seem to prefer him to Iversen and Bonham. Teams that get relegated normally concede a fair number of goals. Norwich just got in the playoffs despite being unusually leaky. It’s been suggested by Cobham that maybe they were gung-ho and that’s why they conceded a lot but that doesn’t tally with what I saw of them. I don’t buy that a team that is fairly proficient in the top half is more vulnerable defensively. A Mark Hughes side regularly fielding Wollescied(sp?) conceded less goals than a Pulis side regularly featuring the likes of Shawcross, Faye, Huth. Why because being proficient at the top end of the pitch takes the pressure off the defence therefore Norwich’s defence is more likely to have been poorer than the stats suggest not better and we might be signing 2 of them to improve us. The others must have been fucking awful. You’re contradicting yourself there fella. You’re saying that teams who are more proficient at the top end of the pitch make a defence look good. A quick glance at the Norwich forum and they are critical of quite a few of their attacking players. It sounds like Ashley Barnes is universally hated there & he was a mainstay in their team for most of the season. So which is it, the defence making the attack look bad or the attack making the defence look bad? Your argument is flawed… |
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Post by baconburger on Jun 1, 2024 19:13:01 GMT
Teams that get relegated normally concede a fair number of goals. Norwich just got in the playoffs despite being unusually leaky. It’s been suggested by Cobham that maybe they were gung-ho and that’s why they conceded a lot but that doesn’t tally with what I saw of them. I don’t buy that a team that is fairly proficient in the top half is more vulnerable defensively. A Mark Hughes side regularly fielding Wollescied(sp?) conceded less goals than a Pulis side regularly featuring the likes of Shawcross, Faye, Huth. Why because being proficient at the top end of the pitch takes the pressure off the defence therefore Norwich’s defence is more likely to have been poorer than the stats suggest not better and we might be signing 2 of them to improve us. The others must have been fucking awful. You’re contradicting yourself there fella. You’re saying that teams who are more proficient at the top end of the pitch make a defence look good. A quick glance at the Norwich forum and they are critical of quite a few of their attacking players. It sounds like Ashley Barnes is universally hated there & he was a mainstay in their team for most of the season. So which is it, the defence making the attack look bad or the attack making the defence look bad? Your argument is flawed… Norwich conceded a high number of goals for a play off team and scored an at least average number of goals for their position. They definitely got in the play offs despite their defence not because of it. Maybe their fans don’t know what they’re talking about, plenty of ours don’t. |
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Post by questionable on Jun 1, 2024 19:16:34 GMT
Was excellent at Boro a few years back. Probably an upgrade on Ciaran Clarke but I doubt he’s much of an upgrade if any on our first choice CB’s of last season ie McNally Rose & Wilmot. My nan would be an upgrade on Clarke |
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Post by baconburger on Jun 1, 2024 19:21:03 GMT
Probably an upgrade on Ciaran Clarke but I doubt he’s much of an upgrade if any on our first choice CB’s of last season ie McNally Rose & Wilmot. My nan would be an upgrade on Clarke Did she play for Norwich last season on the right side of their defence. Maybe that’s the explanation and their left sided defenders are fucking magic. |
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Post by Davef on Jun 1, 2024 19:26:04 GMT
Was excellent at Boro a few years back. Probably an upgrade on Ciaran Clarke but I doubt he’s much of an upgrade if any on our first choice CB’s of last season ie McNally Rose & Wilmot. Who are you expecting us to sign exactly, a clone of Fabio Cannavaro? |
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Post by premieraj on Jun 1, 2024 19:29:37 GMT
How about Matt Hummels he’s 35….
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Post by robwahlmann on Jun 1, 2024 19:32:44 GMT
How about Matt Hummels he’s 35…. I really thought Hummels was finished two seasons ago, but look, he is in a CL final!  |
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Post by baconburger on Jun 1, 2024 19:43:19 GMT
Probably an upgrade on Ciaran Clarke but I doubt he’s much of an upgrade if any on our first choice CB’s of last season ie McNally Rose & Wilmot. Who are you expecting us to sign exactly, a clone of Fabio Cannavaro? imo McNally would have been a better signing but I'm sure there are plenty I don't know. Don't see much to recommend any of the older CB's we've been linked with, if anything Gibson is perhaps the least bad option. |
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Post by logdog on Jun 1, 2024 19:43:42 GMT
You’re contradicting yourself there fella. You’re saying that teams who are more proficient at the top end of the pitch make a defence look good. A quick glance at the Norwich forum and they are critical of quite a few of their attacking players. It sounds like Ashley Barnes is universally hated there & he was a mainstay in their team for most of the season. So which is it, the defence making the attack look bad or the attack making the defence look bad? Your argument is flawed… Norwich conceded a high number of goals for a play off team and scored an at least average number of goals for their position. They definitely got in the play offs despite their defence not because of it. Maybe their fans don’t know what they’re talking about, plenty of ours don’t. So you know more about Norwich than the fans who actually watched their games last season? You’ve confirmed what I suspected there my friend. |
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Post by baconburger on Jun 1, 2024 19:48:29 GMT
Norwich conceded a high number of goals for a play off team and scored an at least average number of goals for their position. They definitely got in the play offs despite their defence not because of it. Maybe their fans don’t know what they’re talking about, plenty of ours don’t. So you know more about Norwich than the fans who actually watched their games last season? You’ve confirmed what I suspected there my friend. I know they scored a relatively high number of goals for their position. I know they conceded a relatively high number of goals for a play off team. Therefore I can conclude their attack was stronger than their defence and I know what a load of shit fans spout about players by reading the crap on here. |
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Post by onepara on Jun 1, 2024 20:00:58 GMT
So you know more about Norwich than the fans who actually watched their games last season? You’ve confirmed what I suspected there my friend. I know they scored a relatively high number of goals for their position. I know they conceded a relatively high number of goals for a play off team. Therefore I can conclude their attack was stronger than their defence and I know what a load of shit fans spout about players by reading the crap on here. You exclude yourself from that last comment? I've said it before, you are a clone of Bayern. |
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Post by logdog on Jun 1, 2024 20:02:22 GMT
So you know more about Norwich than the fans who actually watched their games last season? You’ve confirmed what I suspected there my friend. I know they scored a relatively high number of goals for their position. I know they conceded a relatively high number of goals for a play off team. Therefore I can conclude their attack was stronger than their defence and I know what a load of shit fans spout about players by reading the crap on here. You’re very right with your last observation, Bacon. |
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Post by logdog on Jun 1, 2024 20:04:23 GMT
I know they scored a relatively high number of goals for their position. I know they conceded a relatively high number of goals for a play off team. Therefore I can conclude their attack was stronger than their defence and I know what a load of shit fans spout about players by reading the crap on here. You exclude yourself from that last comment? I've said it before, you are a clone of Bayern. I’m actually finding myself warming to Bayern after reading this guys pearls of wisdom. |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jun 1, 2024 20:09:18 GMT
You exclude yourself from that last comment? I've said it before, you are a clone of Bayern. I’m actually finding myself warming to Bayern after reading this guys pearls of wisdom. He makes Bayern look normal. Atleast with Bayern he will make the odd good point here and there. This Bacon guy talks utter nonsense in every post he makes. It's actually impressive how one man can produce so much shite. |
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Post by baconburger on Jun 1, 2024 20:12:11 GMT
I’m actually finding myself warming to Bayern after reading this guys pearls of wisdom. He makes Bayern look normal. Atleast with Bayern he will make the odd good point here and there. This Bacon guy talks utter nonsense in every post he makes. It's actually impressive how one man can produce so much shite. Says the grain🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Jun 1, 2024 20:14:46 GMT
Probably an upgrade on Ciaran Clarke but I doubt he’s much of an upgrade if any on our first choice CB’s of last season ie McNally Rose & Wilmot. Who are you expecting us to sign exactly, a clone of Fabio Cannavaro? I fear you are wasting your time Dave. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2024 20:41:29 GMT
We just brought in a goalkeeper from a team who conceded a lot more than us as well, yet most on here seem to prefer him to Iversen and Bonham. Teams that get relegated normally concede a fair number of goals. Norwich just got in the playoffs despite being unusually leaky. It’s been suggested by Cobham that maybe they were gung-ho and that’s why they conceded a lot but that doesn’t tally with what I saw of them. I don’t buy that a team that is fairly proficient in the top half is more vulnerable defensively. A Mark Hughes side regularly fielding Wollescied(sp?) conceded less goals than a Pulis side regularly featuring the likes of Shawcross, Faye, Huth. Why because being proficient at the top end of the pitch takes the pressure off the defence therefore Norwich’s defence is more likely to have been poorer than the stats suggest not better and we might be signing 2 of them to improve us. The others must have been fucking awful. I must say, I don’t have an encyclopedic knowledge of Championship players. I watch them when they play against us and forget about them immediately after. Teams with crap defences don’t do well just like teams with crap attacks. That’s just basic common sense. If he comes, great. If not, I will forget about him pretty much instantly. |
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Post by baconburger on Jun 1, 2024 20:50:23 GMT
Teams that get relegated normally concede a fair number of goals. Norwich just got in the playoffs despite being unusually leaky. It’s been suggested by Cobham that maybe they were gung-ho and that’s why they conceded a lot but that doesn’t tally with what I saw of them. I don’t buy that a team that is fairly proficient in the top half is more vulnerable defensively. A Mark Hughes side regularly fielding Wollescied(sp?) conceded less goals than a Pulis side regularly featuring the likes of Shawcross, Faye, Huth. Why because being proficient at the top end of the pitch takes the pressure off the defence therefore Norwich’s defence is more likely to have been poorer than the stats suggest not better and we might be signing 2 of them to improve us. The others must have been fucking awful. I must say, I don’t have an encyclopedic knowledge of Championship players. I watch them when they play against us and forget about them immediately after. Teams with crap defences don’t do well just like teams with crap attacks. That’s just basic common sense. If he comes, great. If not, I will forget about him pretty much instantly. Neither do I by a long chalk. The numbers don’t lie when they were blaming our defence for our awful season they were talking shit. Now they don’t like it when someone is pointing out we’re rumoured to be signing two defenders from a team whose defence was worse than ours. I don’t think Gibson would be a disaster but he’s certainly not a clear improvement on McNally. |
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