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Post by robwahlmann on Jun 1, 2024 20:54:54 GMT
Sometimes it's best to agree that you disagree lads! Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but let him sign first and then play some games before we judge him!  |
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Post by logdog on Jun 1, 2024 20:58:46 GMT
Spmetimes it's best to agree that you disagree lads! Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but let him sign first and then play some games before we judge him! You’re right Rob, everyone is entitled to their own opinion but this guy takes negativity and self righteousness to the next level. That’s a pretty good effort around these parts. |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jun 1, 2024 21:05:20 GMT
Rumour has it Burnley would want a few million for McNally
Didnt convince enough for me to justify that
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Post by peterthornesboots on Jun 1, 2024 21:11:36 GMT
I think that he would be a really positive signing on a free transfer.
Very much proven himself at this level and also has Premier League experience.
I can see him being a great addition both on and off the pitch.
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Post by st3mark on Jun 1, 2024 21:13:29 GMT
Rumour has it Burnley would want a few million for McNally Didnt convince enough for me to justify that Give me Nicky Mohan any day |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jun 1, 2024 21:15:09 GMT
Rumour has it Burnley would want a few million for McNally Didnt convince enough for me to justify that Give me Nicky Mohan any day Last player to lift us a trophy! |
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Post by lordb on Jun 1, 2024 21:19:44 GMT
Give me Nicky Mohan any day Last player to lift us a trophy! Handyside |
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Post by baconburger on Jun 1, 2024 21:19:59 GMT
Spmetimes it's best to agree that you disagree lads! Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but let him sign first and then play some games before we judge him! You’re right Rob, everyone is entitled to their own opinion but this guy takes negativity and self righteousness to the next level. That’s a pretty good effort around these parts. Negative? My reaction to Gibson isn’t negative it’s pretty neutral. My response to the Liam Cooper rumour that was negative. |
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jun 1, 2024 21:24:38 GMT
Last player to lift us a trophy! Handyside Does the Uhren Cup count? That'd make Shawcross the last one to lift a trophy wouldn't it? |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jun 1, 2024 21:24:49 GMT
Last player to lift us a trophy! Handyside I was thinking an out and out cup but technically speaking you are correct |
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Post by meirparkpotter on Jun 1, 2024 23:53:22 GMT
I was thinking an out and out cup but technically speaking you are correct Did anyone lift the Bass Trophy last pre-Season?  |
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Post by Olgrligm on Jun 2, 2024 0:21:11 GMT
I must say, I don’t have an encyclopedic knowledge of Championship players. I watch them when they play against us and forget about them immediately after. Teams with crap defences don’t do well just like teams with crap attacks. That’s just basic common sense. If he comes, great. If not, I will forget about him pretty much instantly. Neither do I by a long chalk. The numbers don’t lie when they were blaming our defence for our awful season they were talking shit. Now they don’t like it when someone is pointing out we’re rumoured to be signing two defenders from a team whose defence was worse than ours. I don’t think Gibson would be a disaster but he’s certainly not a clear improvement on McNally. Two alternative views, though. Firstly, McNally might not be available for us to have in the side next season. I've no idea if Burnley will want to play him or keep him around the squad now that they've been relegated. To be honest, I know very little of them, but I don't think it's too hard to imagine them wanting him in their squad. If they do, the only option is a permanent transfer, potentially for a big chunk of our budget. I didn't mind McNally, but I would probably look for value elsewhere. Secondly, I think we might be pursuing Gibson for more than just his defensive qualities. The data around him seem to indicate that, when at his best, he's a defender who is good in possession, carries the ball forwards and rarely makes mistakes. I would say that it's not a strength for any of the centre backs who played last season. Look at him in the season that Norwich won the league a few years back: 99th percentile for passes into the final third for a centre back (six per game!), 99th percentile for progressive passes, 77th and 78th percentiles for shot and goal creating actions, 99th percentile for progressive carries, 99th percentile for progressive carry difference. Not quite so good in the last couple of years, but my very limited understanding of Norwich suggests that it may be to do with style of play. Anyway, he may well be a player that enables us to play the sort of system that Schumacher favours, moreso than our other centre backs - so perhaps a shrewd move not only for defensive reasons? |
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Post by lrsfcstokie on Jun 2, 2024 3:01:19 GMT
I think that he would be a really positive signing on a free transfer. Very much proven himself at this level and also has Premier League experience. I can see him being a great addition both on and off the pitch. I agree mate |
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Post by ljc on Jun 2, 2024 3:12:14 GMT
Most people screaming as he is over 30 - absolute nonsense
We were screaming out for some more older and experienced players last season
Couple of points from me - 30 is hardly old, footballers play well into their 30s now
And Real Madrid didn’t do too bad with players over 30 - considering if u read this board over 30s are not to be even looked at!!
Honestly - this forum !!!!
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Post by telfordstokie on Jun 2, 2024 5:09:09 GMT
We’re trying to build a cohesive Championship squad which we arguably haven’t had since relegation. Good signing for me towards achieving that aim.
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Post by s7oke on Jun 2, 2024 5:55:00 GMT
If he signs we will be signing experience someone with the right mentality and someone who is a leader
Something that has been missing from our squad for a while
Something that Pulis required in most of his players
Someone who is committed and can organise
As it said in the new kit release it’s about DNA
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 2, 2024 7:55:21 GMT
Too early for Dixon, but what about the lad who was on loan at Walsall (Okagbue)? Is he someone we could use as that fourth choice? He'd be my pick as the 5th choice, or Matt Baker but not seen enough of him 4 senior CB's please Baker or Okagabue is enough for 4th choice. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 2, 2024 7:57:34 GMT
I’m actually finding myself warming to Bayern after reading this guys pearls of wisdom. He makes Bayern look normal. Atleast with Bayern he will make the odd good point here and there. This Bacon guy talks utter nonsense in every post he makes. It's actually impressive how one man can produce so much shite. Odd? Have been asleep for the last 8 fucking years? 🤣 Seriously. I’d love to watch what some of you do and see this functional club that’s got its shit in order in this time period. Jokers 🤣 |
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Post by baconburger on Jun 2, 2024 8:32:26 GMT
Neither do I by a long chalk. The numbers don’t lie when they were blaming our defence for our awful season they were talking shit. Now they don’t like it when someone is pointing out we’re rumoured to be signing two defenders from a team whose defence was worse than ours. I don’t think Gibson would be a disaster but he’s certainly not a clear improvement on McNally. Two alternative views, though. Firstly, McNally might not be available for us to have in the side next season. I've no idea if Burnley will want to play him or keep him around the squad now that they've been relegated. To be honest, I know very little of them, but I don't think it's too hard to imagine them wanting him in their squad. If they do, the only option is a permanent transfer, potentially for a big chunk of our budget. I didn't mind McNally, but I would probably look for value elsewhere. Secondly, I think we might be pursuing Gibson for more than just his defensive qualities. The data around him seem to indicate that, when at his best, he's a defender who is good in possession, carries the ball forwards and rarely makes mistakes. I would say that it's not a strength for any of the centre backs who played last season. Look at him in the season that Norwich won the league a few years back: 99th percentile for passes into the final third for a centre back (six per game!), 99th percentile for progressive passes, 77th and 78th percentiles for shot and goal creating actions, 99th percentile for progressive carries, 99th percentile for progressive carry difference. Not quite so good in the last couple of years, but my very limited understanding of Norwich suggests that it may be to do with style of play. Anyway, he may well be a player that enables us to play the sort of system that Schumacher favours, moreso than our other centre backs - so perhaps a shrewd move not only for defensive reasons? It’s a point of view. As you’ve had to admit after posting all those stats that he’s on a downward curve. I’d simply prefer we didn’t sign such players whatever their name. You either like it or you don’t. Imo it’s bitten us on the arse far more often than it’s come good not sure why we keep doing it over and over again.I really don’t think we need old heads, we have twenty somethings with more than enough experience. |
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Post by emretezzy on Jun 2, 2024 9:20:59 GMT
Rumour has it Burnley would want a few million for McNally Didnt convince enough for me to justify that I have a spring in my step this summer knowing ill never have to watch that clown play for Stoke again. Head on a stick. Absolute donkey. |
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Post by wakeypotter on Jun 2, 2024 9:42:56 GMT
Rumour has it Burnley would want a few million for McNally Didnt convince enough for me to justify that I have a spring in my step this summer knowing ill never have to watch that clown play for Stoke again. Head on a stick. Absolute donkey. I liked McNally to start with but god he was awful in most games midway through the season. Not good enough for us next season |
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Post by logdog on Jun 2, 2024 10:47:44 GMT
You’re right Rob, everyone is entitled to their own opinion but this guy takes negativity and self righteousness to the next level. That’s a pretty good effort around these parts. Negative? My reaction to Gibson isn’t negative it’s pretty neutral. My response to the Liam Cooper rumour that was negative. So that’s your “pretty neutral”? Speaks volumes… |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2024 11:04:15 GMT
I have a spring in my step this summer knowing ill never have to watch that clown play for Stoke again. Head on a stick. Absolute donkey. I liked McNally to start with but god he was awful in most games midway through the season. Not good enough for us next season He’ll probably be more present in the Burnley squad now they’ve gone down anyways. He’s 24, he’ll get better for the next 6-9 years. |
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Post by Glory Hunter on Jun 2, 2024 13:10:24 GMT
He makes Bayern look normal. Atleast with Bayern he will make the odd good point here and there. This Bacon guy talks utter nonsense in every post he makes. It's actually impressive how one man can produce so much shite. Odd? Have been asleep for the last 8 fucking years? 🤣 Seriously. I’d love to watch what some of you do and see this functional club that’s got its shit in order in this time period. Jokers 🤣 Bayern I agree with you, they are jokers. For them to say you make some good points is possibly the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. You have never, ever done that. Jokers indeed. |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jun 2, 2024 13:16:13 GMT
He makes Bayern look normal. Atleast with Bayern he will make the odd good point here and there. This Bacon guy talks utter nonsense in every post he makes. It's actually impressive how one man can produce so much shite. Odd? Have been asleep for the last 8 fucking years? 🤣 Seriously. I’d love to watch what some of you do and see this functional club that’s got its shit in order in this time period. Jokers 🤣 To be fair your good points are fairly recent.. you're more bearable than you used to be 😉😂 |
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Post by yellowsnowman on Jun 2, 2024 13:17:55 GMT
Most people screaming as he is over 30 - absolute nonsense We were screaming out for some more older and experienced players last season Couple of points from me - 30 is hardly old, footballers play well into their 30s now And Real Madrid didn’t do too bad with players over 30 - considering if u read this board over 30s are not to be even looked at!! Honestly - this forum !!!! Reals, over 30s are world class footballers. Rolls royces. We sign fucking ford cortinas. Our record of late for over 30 is dog shit. They either dnt play because they are wank or bloody injured. Dnt mind one or two. Stevens, gibson and fielding. That will do. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jun 2, 2024 13:53:00 GMT
If Gibson can play a big part in a play off team,then Shirley he is good enough to play for a club who hasn't finished in the top half of the championship for 5 seasons.
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Post by chell_rosey on Jun 2, 2024 13:59:55 GMT
Most people screaming as he is over 30 - absolute nonsense We were screaming out for some more older and experienced players last season Couple of points from me - 30 is hardly old, footballers play well into their 30s now And Real Madrid didn’t do too bad with players over 30 - considering if u read this board over 30s are not to be even looked at!! Honestly - this forum !!!! Reals, over 30s are world class footballers. Rolls royces. We sign fucking ford cortinas. Our record of late for over 30 is dog shit. They either dnt play because they are wank or bloody injured. Dnt mind one or two. Stevens, gibson and fielding. That will do. As long as they are mint condition Lotus Cortina's I don't see a problem, frankly. |
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Post by bertiestan on Jun 2, 2024 14:11:15 GMT
Rumour has it Burnley would want a few million for McNally Didnt convince enough for me to justify that I have a spring in my step this summer knowing ill never have to watch that clown play for Stoke again. Head on a stick. Absolute donkey. Absolutely agree mate🔴⚪️ |
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Post by yellowsnowman on Jun 2, 2024 14:33:31 GMT
Reals, over 30s are world class footballers. Rolls royces. We sign fucking ford cortinas. Our record of late for over 30 is dog shit. They either dnt play because they are wank or bloody injured. Dnt mind one or two. Stevens, gibson and fielding. That will do. As long as they are mint condition Lotus Cortina's I don't see a problem, frankly. Hahaha. Fucking hell. |
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