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Post by lancer on Jun 1, 2024 8:54:43 GMT
I'm going to wait until see him smiling and holding up a Stoke shirt before I start to criticise him. I like to be fair.
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Post by thornestein on Jun 1, 2024 8:56:25 GMT
33 starts in a team that made the play offs. Can't stick your nose up at that really can you? Plenty on here stick their nose up at our defenders who conceded less last season. that was mostly due to how Neil set up and shit himself , when SS tried more attacking football we conceded a few , hence why he admittedly changed it to be more tighter and direct from the back |
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Post by thornestein on Jun 1, 2024 8:57:32 GMT
Wilmot is actually very good on the air, as he's not overly tall for a CB. never heard him on the radio but imagine he can’t be any worse than his defending 😉🤣 |
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Post by thornestein on Jun 1, 2024 8:59:58 GMT
Who has 5 senior CBs? Keeping 4 happy is hard enough. Minimum 4 with a younger player who is actually used is the obvious way to go i’d have the younger player ( Dixon ) as the 4th , we’re supposed to be reducing the squad size this season |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jun 1, 2024 9:15:51 GMT
You want 2 players for every position so Id say we need 4.
No issue with Rose as a back up
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 1, 2024 9:18:55 GMT
Minimum 4 with a younger player who is actually used is the obvious way to go i’d have the younger player ( Dixon ) as the 4th , we’re supposed to be reducing the squad size this season We went into last season with 3 senior CBs and within weeks ended up playing Laurent at CB and panic hiring Clarke to fill the gap. It would be nuts to do the same again - we need at least 4 senior CBs and at least 5 if we go 5 at the back on a regular basis. |
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Post by thornestein on Jun 1, 2024 9:20:42 GMT
i’d have the younger player ( Dixon ) as the 4th , we’re supposed to be reducing the squad size this season We went into last season with 3 senior CBs and within weeks ended up playing Laurent at CB and panic hiring Clarke to fill the gap. It would be nuts to do the same again - we need at least 4 senior CBs and at least 5 if we go 5 at the back on a regular basis. which bit off Dixon being the 4th you don’t understand 🤷♂️🤣 |
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 1, 2024 9:28:03 GMT
Too early for Dixon, but what about the lad who was on loan at Walsall (Okagbue)? Is he someone we could use as that fourth choice?
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jun 1, 2024 9:38:55 GMT
We went into last season with 3 senior CBs and within weeks ended up playing Laurent at CB and panic hiring Clarke to fill the gap. It would be nuts to do the same again - we need at least 4 senior CBs and at least 5 if we go 5 at the back on a regular basis. which bit off Dixon being the 4th you don’t understand 🤷♂️🤣 He is saying Dixon isn't a senior centre back..which he isn't. He is saying we need 4 SENIOR centre backs. You were the one not understanding here. Dixon is fine as a 5th option. |
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Post by baconburger on Jun 1, 2024 9:48:13 GMT
Plenty on here stick their nose up at our defenders who conceded less last season. It’s easy to look at goals conceded but it’s more than that. A lot depends on how expansive a system teams are going to play. If you’re going out to attack the chances are something will need to give and it’s usually the protection of the defence. If Gibson signs I think he’ll be a good solid signing. Norwich certainly didn’t strike me as a particularly gung-ho-ho team. They simply conceded a lot of goals. Now it’s supposed to be accepted logic that 2 of their defenders will improve our defence. Nothing really backs this up other than some posters irrational attitudes that our defenders are so bad that even ones from a more leaky defence will be better. Neither Gibson or Coady are anything like the type of defender they’ve been banging on about craving just about since Huth and Shawcross. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 1, 2024 9:52:33 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-transfer-news-gibson-9298931Stoke close in on Ben Gibson swoopStoke are hoping to conclude a deal for Ben Gibson to become their second signing of the summer. The 31-year-old centre-back has got a reputation a changing room leader and Stoke's top brass will know his character well as Jon Walters previously played with him at Burnley. There has apparently been strong rival interest, including from the United States, but Stoke are trying to add him to Viktor Johansson in what would be another big bit of early business.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 1, 2024 10:02:35 GMT
We went into last season with 3 senior CBs and within weeks ended up playing Laurent at CB and panic hiring Clarke to fill the gap. It would be nuts to do the same again - we need at least 4 senior CBs and at least 5 if we go 5 at the back on a regular basis. which bit off Dixon being the 4th you don’t understand 🤷♂️🤣 Which bit of "senior" don't you? |
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Post by march4 on Jun 1, 2024 10:07:53 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-transfer-news-gibson-9298931Stoke close in on Ben Gibson swoopStoke are hoping to conclude a deal for Ben Gibson to become their second signing of the summer. The 31-year-old centre-back has got a reputation a changing room leader and Stoke's top brass will know his character well as Jon Walters previously played with him at Burnley. There has apparently been strong rival interest, including from the United States, but Stoke are trying to add him to Viktor Johansson in what would be another big bit of early business. Changing room leader. That is exactly what we need. |
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Post by kerouac on Jun 1, 2024 10:11:04 GMT
Wilmot is actually very good on the air, as he's not overly tall for a CB. never heard him on the radio but imagine he can’t be any worse than his defending 😉🤣 Like it….. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Jun 1, 2024 10:13:27 GMT
It’s easy to look at goals conceded but it’s more than that. A lot depends on how expansive a system teams are going to play. If you’re going out to attack the chances are something will need to give and it’s usually the protection of the defence. If Gibson signs I think he’ll be a good solid signing. Norwich certainly didn’t strike me as a particularly gung-ho-ho team. They simply conceded a lot of goals. Now it’s supposed to be accepted logic that 2 of their defenders will improve our defence. Nothing really backs this up other than some posters irrational attitudes that our defenders are so bad that even ones from a more leaky defence will be better. Neither Gibson or Coady are anything like the type of defender they’ve been banging on about craving just about since Huth and Shawcross. Well they scored 30 more goals than us so if people are going to compare the 2 defences then they have to look at the attacks and the likelihood is if a team are scoring that many more goals then they’re playing a more expansive attacking game which would leave them more open at the back than us who for the majority of the season played more cautiously. |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jun 1, 2024 10:30:00 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-transfer-news-gibson-9298931Stoke close in on Ben Gibson swoopStoke are hoping to conclude a deal for Ben Gibson to become their second signing of the summer. The 31-year-old centre-back has got a reputation a changing room leader and Stoke's top brass will know his character well as Jon Walters previously played with him at Burnley. There has apparently been strong rival interest, including from the United States, but Stoke are trying to add him to Viktor Johansson in what would be another big bit of early business. Changing room leader. That is exactly what we need. Think thats the key. If he can be the dominant leader type at the back, hes just what we need Had a great career ahead of him at Boro, regressed at Burnley but doesnt seem to have done too bad at Norwich |
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Post by thornestein on Jun 1, 2024 10:52:07 GMT
which bit off Dixon being the 4th you don’t understand 🤷♂️🤣 He is saying Dixon isn't a senior centre back..which he isn't. He is saying we need 4 SENIOR centre backs. You were the one not understanding here. Dixon is fine as a 5th option. Dixon should be fine as 4th option, we need make the squad smaller |
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Post by baconburger on Jun 1, 2024 11:20:39 GMT
Norwich certainly didn’t strike me as a particularly gung-ho-ho team. They simply conceded a lot of goals. Now it’s supposed to be accepted logic that 2 of their defenders will improve our defence. Nothing really backs this up other than some posters irrational attitudes that our defenders are so bad that even ones from a more leaky defence will be better. Neither Gibson or Coady are anything like the type of defender they’ve been banging on about craving just about since Huth and Shawcross. Well they scored 30 more goals than us so if people are going to compare the 2 defences then they have to look at the attacks and the likelihood is if a team are scoring that many more goals then they’re playing a more expansive attacking game which would leave them more open at the back than us who for the majority of the season played more cautiously. Did we? We went very risk adverse in two periods 1 when AN knew his job was on the brink and after we dropped into the bottom 3 until Plymouth (H) outside of those periods we were not playing cautious football and those periods certainly don’t amount to the majority of the season. That they scored that many more goals than us indicates how poor we were in attack not how cautious our game plans were, their goals scored was not an unusual number to indicate they were any sort of gung-ho team. You really seem to be trying to make the evidence fit our actions. If the rumours come to be realised we’re signing 2 defenders from what was a pretty poor team in defence last season. That’s what the numbers say when you’re not trying to spin them. |
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Post by lordb on Jun 1, 2024 11:22:58 GMT
Too early for Dixon, but what about the lad who was on loan at Walsall (Okagbue)? Is he someone we could use as that fourth choice? He'd be my pick as the 5th choice, or Matt Baker but not seen enough of him 4 senior CB's please |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jun 1, 2024 11:24:15 GMT
Would do for me, especially being left footed too. Can’t see it being Coady as well as him, someone younger/cheaper you’d think.
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Post by stokecitytalke on Jun 1, 2024 11:43:30 GMT
Too early for Dixon, but what about the lad who was on loan at Walsall (Okagbue)? Is he someone we could use as that fourth choice? He'd be my pick as the 5th choice, or Matt Baker but not seen enough of him 4 senior CB's please I've seen a lot of Matt Baker, he's always on Countryfile. |
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Post by Claus_SCFC on Jun 1, 2024 11:57:44 GMT
He is saying Dixon isn't a senior centre back..which he isn't. He is saying we need 4 SENIOR centre backs. You were the one not understanding here. Dixon is fine as a 5th option. Dixon should be fine as 4th option, we need make the squad smaller Why? |
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Post by thornestein on Jun 1, 2024 12:21:40 GMT
Dixon should be fine as 4th option, we need make the squad smaller Why? because if he’s as good as ppl say we need keep him happy |
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Post by Claus_SCFC on Jun 1, 2024 12:33:39 GMT
because if he’s as good as ppl say we need keep him happy I’ve seen him once for the U21’s - very talented, but not ready for the Championship. A league 2 Loan wouldbe good for him |
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jun 1, 2024 12:54:29 GMT
Minimum 4 with a younger player who is actually used is the obvious way to go i’d have the younger player ( Dixon ) as the 4th , we’re supposed to be reducing the squad size this season Dixon is 17 for God’s sake. |
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Post by baconburger on Jun 1, 2024 13:05:46 GMT
because if he’s as good as ppl say we need keep him happy I’ve seen him once for the U21’s - very talented, but not ready for the Championship. A league 2 Loan wouldbe good for him Wow you ascertained that by watching him once. Surely there's a demand for such genius. If he's very talented how do you know he's not ready for the championship? Collins was rated similarly and never had a lower league loan. Conversely if he wasn't all that, how do you know he's very talented? |
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Post by Claus_SCFC on Jun 1, 2024 13:10:10 GMT
I’ve seen him once for the U21’s - very talented, but not ready for the Championship. A league 2 Loan wouldbe good for him Wow you ascertained that by watching him once. Surely there's a demand for such genius. If he's very talented how do you know he's not ready for the championship? Collins was rated similarly and never had a lower league loan. Conversely if he wasn't all that, how do you know he's very talented? Physically he’s still a kid |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jun 1, 2024 13:10:42 GMT
i’d have the younger player ( Dixon ) as the 4th , we’re supposed to be reducing the squad size this season Dixon is 17 for God’s sake. 😂😂 amazing isn't it |
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Post by thornestein on Jun 1, 2024 13:31:47 GMT
i’d have the younger player ( Dixon ) as the 4th , we’re supposed to be reducing the squad size this season Dixon is 17 for God’s sake. and |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jun 1, 2024 13:35:06 GMT
Dixon is 17 for God’s sake. and 😧😧 |
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