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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 6, 2024 6:36:06 GMT
If you hadn't already come out of the racist closet with your Yaxley-Lennon bollocks, then you're loud and proud now mate. Disgusting...you should be fucking ashamed of yourself. I’m ashamed of nothing at all and people like yourself will rue the day mass illegal migrants flooded into this country in the years to come.You carry on licking that terrorist sympathiser’s arse while I’ll carry on with my holiday
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 6, 2024 6:38:45 GMT
If you hadn't already come out of the racist closet with your Yaxley-Lennon bollocks, then you're loud and proud now mate. Disgusting...you should be fucking ashamed of yourself. I’m ashamed of nothing at all and people like yourself will rue the day mass illegal migrants flooded into this country in the years to come.You carry on licking that terrorist sympathiser’s arse while I’ll carry on with my holiday On today of all days you're posting support for the very individuals that thousands of men and women fought to exterminate. You really are a disgusting individual...end of.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 6, 2024 6:51:14 GMT
If you hadn't already come out of the racist closet with your Yaxley-Lennon bollocks, then you're loud and proud now mate. Disgusting...you should be fucking ashamed of yourself. I’m ashamed of nothing at all and people like yourself will rue the day mass illegal migrants flooded into this country in the years to come.You carry on licking that terrorist sympathiser’s arse while I’ll carry on with my holiday You are posting material from a far right racist group known for using social media to promote racial hatred. If you don't understand the implications of what you are doing you are stupid. I don't think you are stupid. I think you're actively promoting far right racist material with the intent of promoting racial hatred. And before you even try to use the spurious semantic argument the material you have been posting makes generalised inflammatory statements about Muslims. Which is Islamaphobia. Which is recognised by Parliament to be racist. You are a racist pedalling material designed speifically to promote racial hatred. And you know it.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 6, 2024 7:22:54 GMT
I’m ashamed of nothing at all and people like yourself will rue the day mass illegal migrants flooded into this country in the years to come.You carry on licking that terrorist sympathiser’s arse while I’ll carry on with my holiday You are posting material from a far right racist group known for using social media to promote racial hatred. If you don't understand the implications of what you are doing you are stupid. I don't think you are stupid. I think you're actively promoting far right racist material with the intent of promoting racial hatred. And before you even try to use the spurious semantic argument the material you have been posting makes generalised inflammatory statements about Muslims. Which is Islamaphobia. Which is recognised by Parliament to be racist. You are a racist pedalling material designed speifically to promote racial hatred. And you know it. Well said that man.
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Post by Northy on Jun 6, 2024 8:50:40 GMT
Hamas are Palestinians aren't they? And the IRA are Irish. Your point being?
So you pick that bit out and not the rest ? Well the guy on the right has the Slogan 'From the river to the sea' on the front of his T shirt. Which was PLO and now Hamas and is banned in many places as being anti-semitic and linked to Hamas. Hamas are Palestinians aren't they?
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Post by Northy on Jun 6, 2024 8:53:25 GMT
Well the guy on the right has the Slogan 'From the river to the sea' on the front of his T shirt. Which was PLO and now Hamas and is banned in many places as being anti-semitic and linked to Hamas. Hamas are Palestinians aren't they? I can't quite tell what she's saying as it's a bit shouty and a strong accent, I'd like to see the whole clip and not just a small part of it. If the phrase is anti-Semitic why does Netanyahu and the rest of his hardline cabinet use it as well? I wrote : - Is banned in many places as being anti-semitic - a slight difference
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jun 6, 2024 8:55:08 GMT
I like to think I wouldn't go and murder, mutilate and rape a bunch of unarmed, innocent kids at a festival to be honest Paul and would go after those responsible. But it's not that clear cut either. The actions of Hamas are not those of the Palestinian people. Much of Hamas doesn't even reside in Gaza and the majority of Gazans don't support Hamas - Although even that's not clear cut because there is a huge amount of intimidation and indoctrination inflicted by Hamas on the people of Gaza and in times of war, who else can the people turn to? I think you're right to be critical of Israel Paul but you're giving Hamas an easy ride. They are an appalling outfit who have undoubtedly contributed significantly to the current war in Gaza. A terrorist group who have in addition, inflicted misery on Palestinian women's rights, destroyed basic freedoms, education and enforced religious intolerance across Gaza - Severe consequences await anyone who stands up against them. The Palestinian people are not Hamas and their unjust suffering is a terribly sad story. I've said many times, Palestine should be an independent state upon the removal of Hamas and Israel need to come out of Gaza. Nothing can be achieved by prolonging the war. And who should stand up for the Palestinians having their homes stolen, their schools bulldozed and their children raped? But as per my original point, standing up for someone does not mean raping children of your enemy - That's just fucking sick. I'll repeat it again, Hamas are not standing up for the people of Palestine, they launched their attack on Israeli civilians with absolute 100% certainty Israel would act in this way. You knew it was going to happen as did I, so of course Hamas did. So then you ask - Why did Hamas initiate this invasion of Gaza on October 7th which has cost tens of thousands of lives? I do worry that people in the West have become so angry with Israel that they are now borderline justifying the actions of Hamas. The minute we start justifying killing and literally torturing civilians, its a scary time - That's indoctrination. In much the same way, the justification of Israel's slaughtering of civilians in Gaza cannot be justified. It's one of the reasons I find this Israel/Palestine debate so tedious. Because there's no balance anymore to it. It's just become this tribal, animalistic, Americanised debate - With the vast majority of those protesting probably unable to locate Gaza on a map prior to to October 7th.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 6, 2024 9:02:33 GMT
If you hadn't already come out of the racist closet with your Yaxley-Lennon bollocks, then you're loud and proud now mate. Disgusting...you should be fucking ashamed of yourself. Why should he? Because it's out and out racism that's why.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 6, 2024 11:02:12 GMT
And the IRA are Irish. Your point being?
So you pick that bit out and not the rest ? Well the guy on the right has the Slogan 'From the river to the sea' on the front of his T shirt. Which was PLO and now Hamas and is banned in many places as being anti-semitic and linked to Hamas. Hamas are Palestinians aren't they? From the River to the Sea ISN'T antisemitic, although the likes of Braverman et al. have brainwashed the public into believing so. Members of the Knesset including Netanyahu himself have often used the term publicly. And yes, many members of Hamas are Palestinians and many members of the IRA are Irish, what is the point you're attempting to draw?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 6, 2024 11:14:39 GMT
And who should stand up for the Palestinians having their homes stolen, their schools bulldozed and their children raped? But as per my original point, standing up for someone does not mean raping children of your enemy - That's just fucking sick. I'll repeat it again, Hamas are not standing up for the people of Palestine, they launched their attack on Israeli civilians with absolute 100% certainty Israel would act in this way. You knew it was going to happen as did I, so of course Hamas did. So then you ask - Why did Hamas initiate this invasion of Gaza on October 7th which has cost tens of thousands of lives? I do worry that people in the West have become so angry with Israel that they are now borderline justifying the actions of Hamas. The minute we start justifying killing and literally torturing civilians, its a scary time - That's indoctrination. In much the same way, the justification of Israel's slaughtering of civilians in Gaza cannot be justified. It's one of the reasons I find this Israel/Palestine debate so tedious. Because there's no balance anymore to it. It's just become this tribal, animalistic, Americanised debate - With the vast majority of those protesting probably unable to locate Gaza on a map prior to to October 7th. It's going to be extremely difficult to find 'balance' in a 'debate' where one people has been brutally occupied for 75 years. I think I'm going to leave it at that mate, not out of disrespect for yourself but rather I'm worried that this thread has started to go off at a tangent and is beginning to move away from the original topic, when an Israel thread of it's own already exists. I am of course more than happy to continue the discussion on that thread if you like.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 6, 2024 11:26:39 GMT
And who should stand up for the Palestinians having their homes stolen, their schools bulldozed and their children raped? But as per my original point, standing up for someone does not mean raping children of your enemy - That's just fucking sick. I'll repeat it again, Hamas are not standing up for the people of Palestine, they launched their attack on Israeli civilians with absolute 100% certainty Israel would act in this way. You knew it was going to happen as did I, so of course Hamas did. So then you ask - Why did Hamas initiate this invasion of Gaza on October 7th which has cost tens of thousands of lives? I do worry that people in the West have become so angry with Israel that they are now borderline justifying the actions of Hamas. The minute we start justifying killing and literally torturing civilians, its a scary time - That's indoctrination. In much the same way, the justification of Israel's slaughtering of civilians in Gaza cannot be justified. It's one of the reasons I find this Israel/Palestine debate so tedious. Because there's no balance anymore to it. It's just become this tribal, animalistic, Americanised debate - With the vast majority of those protesting probably unable to locate Gaza on a map prior to to October 7th. Should sovereign states be held to a higher standard than a proscribed terrorist organisation though? The IRA analogy is a good one, would the British Army have been justified in bombing the shit out of Ireland and killing civilians on the strength of an IRA terrorist attack?
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Post by gawa on Jun 6, 2024 12:09:45 GMT
But as per my original point, standing up for someone does not mean raping children of your enemy - That's just fucking sick. I'll repeat it again, Hamas are not standing up for the people of Palestine, they launched their attack on Israeli civilians with absolute 100% certainty Israel would act in this way. You knew it was going to happen as did I, so of course Hamas did. So then you ask - Why did Hamas initiate this invasion of Gaza on October 7th which has cost tens of thousands of lives? I do worry that people in the West have become so angry with Israel that they are now borderline justifying the actions of Hamas. The minute we start justifying killing and literally torturing civilians, its a scary time - That's indoctrination. In much the same way, the justification of Israel's slaughtering of civilians in Gaza cannot be justified. It's one of the reasons I find this Israel/Palestine debate so tedious. Because there's no balance anymore to it. It's just become this tribal, animalistic, Americanised debate - With the vast majority of those protesting probably unable to locate Gaza on a map prior to to October 7th. Should sovereign states be held to a higher standard than a proscribed terrorist organisation though? The IRA analogy is a good one, would the British Army have been justified in bombing the shit out of Ireland and killing civilians on the strength of an IRA terrorist attack? Let's not forget the British citizens killed by MI5 agents within the IRA too. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stakeknife
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jun 6, 2024 14:17:20 GMT
But as per my original point, standing up for someone does not mean raping children of your enemy - That's just fucking sick. I'll repeat it again, Hamas are not standing up for the people of Palestine, they launched their attack on Israeli civilians with absolute 100% certainty Israel would act in this way. You knew it was going to happen as did I, so of course Hamas did. So then you ask - Why did Hamas initiate this invasion of Gaza on October 7th which has cost tens of thousands of lives? I do worry that people in the West have become so angry with Israel that they are now borderline justifying the actions of Hamas. The minute we start justifying killing and literally torturing civilians, its a scary time - That's indoctrination. In much the same way, the justification of Israel's slaughtering of civilians in Gaza cannot be justified. It's one of the reasons I find this Israel/Palestine debate so tedious. Because there's no balance anymore to it. It's just become this tribal, animalistic, Americanised debate - With the vast majority of those protesting probably unable to locate Gaza on a map prior to to October 7th. Should sovereign states be held to a higher standard than a proscribed terrorist organisation though? The IRA analogy is a good one, would the British Army have been justified in bombing the shit out of Ireland and killing civilians on the strength of an IRA terrorist attack? Absolutely valid point and I don't disagree. I'm not saying Israel should not be held accountable. I'm merely saying Pro Palestine protestors should be as critical of Hamas - I'm not seeing that and I think it's why there is a bit of an uneasy undertone to some of the protests we've seen. Just because Hamas are a terrorist organisation doesn't give them a free pass from criticism just because we assume they will act in a cuntish barbaric way. We must distinguish them from Palestinian people too. When Isis seized and occupied Mosul, we were all very clear that Iraqi civilians were innocently caught up in western bombardment and Isis terrorism. There doesn't seem to be that clear understanding of how evil Hamas are in all of this and the focus from protesters is solely aimed at Israel and Western powers. It should be jointly aimed at Israel and Hamas - And that's my point.
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Post by knype on Jun 6, 2024 17:19:54 GMT
Because it's out and out racism that's why. Yeah ok
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Post by knype on Jun 6, 2024 17:20:52 GMT
So you pick that bit out and not the rest ? Well the guy on the right has the Slogan 'From the river to the sea' on the front of his T shirt. Which was PLO and now Hamas and is banned in many places as being anti-semitic and linked to Hamas. Hamas are Palestinians aren't they? From the River to the Sea ISN'T antisemitic, although the likes of Braverman et al. have brainwashed the public into believing so. Members of the Knesset including Netanyahu himself have often used the term publicly. And yes, many members of Hamas are Palestinians and many members of the IRA are Irish, what is the point you're attempting to draw? You saying it isn't doesn't make it not true. I've seen and heard off plenty online and on videos saying that it is.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 6, 2024 20:35:06 GMT
From the River to the Sea ISN'T antisemitic, although the likes of Braverman et al. have brainwashed the public into believing so. Members of the Knesset including Netanyahu himself have often used the term publicly. And yes, many members of Hamas are Palestinians and many members of the IRA are Irish, what is the point you're attempting to draw? You saying it isn't doesn't make it not true. I've seen and heard off plenty online and on videos saying that it is. And no doubt those very same websites will tell you that being anti Zionist is also antisemitic but it actually isn't, is it knype?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 6, 2024 20:42:13 GMT
Should sovereign states be held to a higher standard than a proscribed terrorist organisation though? The IRA analogy is a good one, would the British Army have been justified in bombing the shit out of Ireland and killing civilians on the strength of an IRA terrorist attack? I'm not saying Israel should not be held accountable. I'm merely saying Pro Palestine protestors should be as critical of Hamas - I'm not seeing that and I think it's why there is a bit of an uneasy undertone to some of the protests we've seen. Couldn't that exact same criticism be levelled at the pro Israel march last Saturday? Star of David flags everywhere but not the slighetest hint of a criticism of Israel for the slaughter that they're currently engaged in.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jun 6, 2024 21:22:10 GMT
I'm not saying Israel should not be held accountable. I'm merely saying Pro Palestine protestors should be as critical of Hamas - I'm not seeing that and I think it's why there is a bit of an uneasy undertone to some of the protests we've seen. Couldn't that exact same criticism be levelled at the pro Israel march last Saturday? Star of David flags everywhere but not the slighetest hint of a criticism of Israel for the slaughter that they're currently engaged in. Yes absolutely Paul. Many of the protests from both sides are tribal, not helpful.
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Post by knype on Jun 7, 2024 7:05:38 GMT
You saying it isn't doesn't make it not true. I've seen and heard off plenty online and on videos saying that it is. And no doubt those very same websites will tell you that being anti Zionist is also antisemitic but it actually isn't, is it knype? That's the point I'm making Paul, you believe what you read, others believe what they read!
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 7, 2024 10:52:24 GMT
And no doubt those very same websites will tell you that being anti Zionist is also antisemitic but it actually isn't, is it knype? That's the point I'm making Paul, you believe what you read, others believe what they read! I'll base my opinion on multiple different sources knype, not just on those of one particular political persuasion and I usually find that the specific history of a topic is pretty useful too.
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Post by Eggybread on Jun 7, 2024 10:56:29 GMT
If you hadn't already come out of the racist closet with your Yaxley-Lennon bollocks, then you're loud and proud now mate. Disgusting...you should be fucking ashamed of yourself. I’m ashamed of nothing at all and people like yourself will rue the day mass illegal migrants flooded into this country in the years to come.You carry on licking that terrorist sympathiser’s arse while I’ll carry on with my holiday Abroad I take it?
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 7, 2024 13:20:55 GMT
If you hadn't already come out of the racist closet with your Yaxley-Lennon bollocks, then you're loud and proud now mate. Disgusting...you should be fucking ashamed of yourself. I’m ashamed of nothing at all and people like yourself will rue the day mass illegal migrants flooded into this country in the years to come.You carry on licking that terrorist sympathiser’s arse while I’ll carry on with my holiday ...."illegal immigrants"...."terrorist sympathiser's"..... If you want to understand the mindset of a racist there you have it. Enjoy your holiday. Don't come back. We are good with people escaping persecution, not those that seek to persecute.
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Post by Eggybread on Jun 7, 2024 13:28:00 GMT
I’m ashamed of nothing at all and people like yourself will rue the day mass illegal migrants flooded into this country in the years to come.You carry on licking that terrorist sympathiser’s arse while I’ll carry on with my holiday ...."illegal immigrants"...."terrorist sympathiser's"..... If you want to understand the mindset of a racist there you have it. Enjoy your holiday. Don't come back. We are good with people escaping persecution, not those that seek to persecute.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 8, 2024 11:23:53 GMT
They walk amongst us....
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 8, 2024 11:48:55 GMT
Absolutely frightening. As for Shakira Law ... 🤦♂️
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Post by musik on Jun 8, 2024 11:53:58 GMT
Heavy heavy heavy rain here in Sweden for two weeks they say. But I will go to the EU Election Political Parties little Election-houses tomorrow prior to putting my vote into the jack - and ask what they think of cultural enrichment, and if it's really can be seen as enrichment.
Report to come. 🤠
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 8, 2024 11:55:35 GMT
Absolutely frightening. As for Shakira Law ... 🤦♂️ Quite like the sound of Shakira law🤔
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jun 8, 2024 12:08:28 GMT
Absolutely frightening. As for Shakira Law ... 🤦♂️ Quite like the sound of Shakira law🤔 Does that mean finding a conveluted way to avoid paying tax?
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Jun 8, 2024 12:11:24 GMT
Absolutely frightening. As for Shakira Law ... 🤦♂️ Quite like the sound of Shakira law🤔 Shakira, shakira shakira.
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Post by wannabee on Jun 8, 2024 12:32:45 GMT
Absolutely frightening. As for Shakira Law ... 🤦♂️ Quite like the sound of Shakira law🤔 Heaps don't lie, it would be good
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