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Post by nonameface on Jun 9, 2024 8:08:16 GMT
BTA is a physical forward, Conway is a little like Ennis, in that you think hes going to be but he's not. Would argue that Mmaee is more physical (sounds mental right?!)
Mmaee wins 1/3 of his headers, Conway 14% Mmaee has about average non penalty XG, Conway bottom quartile.
Open to getting more physicality up top, just don't believe Conway is the answer.
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Post by baconburger on Jun 9, 2024 8:11:49 GMT
Would prefer to keep Mmaee as our number one striker rather than sign Conway. Conway is best suited to direct football where he can use his stamina to keep pressing players, similar to how Brown did for us. He was well suited to Nigel Pearson, last year scoring 9 in 34 league games which for his age was excellent. This year hes scored 10 in 39 and 5 of those have been penalties. He's struggling with Mannings football (as is Sam Bell) where his lack of footballing ability lets him down. He's quite similar in footballing style to Ennis, just better and had a good FA Cup run. Wasn't Erling Håland around the same age in his first season in the PL? 9 in 34 in the Championship, well, not bad but ....... We could neither afford or attract top world talent. Maybe comparisons to what we could afford and attract would be more meaningful. I mean I’m not even certain Conway is a realistic target he’s declined a new contract at Bristol City maybe there’s interest from a club higher.
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Post by baconburger on Jun 9, 2024 8:20:55 GMT
BTA is a physical forward, Conway is a little like Ennis, in that you think hes going to be but he's not. Would argue that Mmaee is more physical (sounds mental right?!) Mmaee wins 1/3 of his headers, Conway 14% Mmaee has about average non penalty XG, Conway bottom quartile. Open to getting more physicality up top, just don't believe Conway is the answer. What has how many aerial duels a player wins got to do with physicality. Conway like BTA gives CB’s a hard time and scores a few as well. Mmaee could do that indeed he did in 1 game Watford (A) but he doesn’t want to, it’s not about physical stature it’s what’s between his ears. Part of his problems besides lateness was causing confrontations with other players in training he sees as training too aggressively. He simply does not like the combative nature of the English game. You just can’t do anything with players like that in this country even when they’re excellent players like Morata they just have to go find somewhere the football suits their mentality. EDIT: Vidigal has exactly the same problem.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 9, 2024 8:39:20 GMT
BTA is a physical forward, Conway is a little like Ennis, in that you think hes going to be but he's not. Would argue that Mmaee is more physical (sounds mental right?!) Mmaee wins 1/3 of his headers, Conway 14% Mmaee has about average non penalty XG, Conway bottom quartile. Open to getting more physicality up top, just don't believe Conway is the answer. What has how many aerial duels a player wins got to do with physicality. Conway like BTA gives CB’s a hard time and scores a few as well. Mmaee could do that indeed he did in 1 game Watford (A) but he doesn’t want to, it’s not about physical stature it’s what’s between his ears. Part of his problems besides lateness was causing confrontations with other players in training he sees as training too aggressively. He simply does not like the combative nature of the English game. You just can’t do anything with players like that in this country even when they’re excellent players like Morata they just have to go find somewhere the football suits their mentality. EDIT: Vidigal has exactly the same problem. Agree but neither will be easy to shift and a chunky loss on Mmaee we don’t need .
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Post by baconburger on Jun 9, 2024 8:49:39 GMT
What has how many aerial duels a player wins got to do with physicality. Conway like BTA gives CB’s a hard time and scores a few as well. Mmaee could do that indeed he did in 1 game Watford (A) but he doesn’t want to, it’s not about physical stature it’s what’s between his ears. Part of his problems besides lateness was causing confrontations with other players in training he sees as training too aggressively. He simply does not like the combative nature of the English game. You just can’t do anything with players like that in this country even when they’re excellent players like Morata they just have to go find somewhere the football suits their mentality. EDIT: Vidigal has exactly the same problem. Agree but neither will be easy to shift and a chunky loss on Mmaee we don’t need . I think their attitude to the combative nature of English football had a lot of knock on effects. It wouldn’t put me off foreign markets but maybe be a little more careful in that regard and if you do end up with one of them deal with them swiftly and get rid ASAP. Far far better players than them have come to England and just not been suited to the English game. I think we’ve (England) gone quite far enough in diluting the more reckless combative elements.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2024 8:51:25 GMT
I wonder if Stoke would be tempted to try and bring in Hardie. He’s done well in his first season in the Championship. He’s fast and has had three back to back good scoring years. He knows how to work with Ennis and get the best out of each other.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jun 9, 2024 8:55:39 GMT
Wasn't Erling Håland around the same age in his first season in the PL? 9 in 34 in the Championship, well, not bad but ....... We could neither afford or attract top world talent. Maybe comparisons to what we could afford and attract would be more meaningful. I mean I’m not even certain Conway is a realistic target he’s declined a new contract at Bristol City maybe there’s interest from a club higher. I still rue spending £12.5M on Afobe the same summer Alexander Sørloth went from Palace to Spain on loan after being looked upon as a flop in Palace. A cheeky bid around £6-7M would probably have been enough at the time. This season he probably would have been the top scorer in La Liaga if he hadn't been injured before the last game of the season. It's about seeing talent and strengths even though players have failed elsewhere. Steino and Sheron are also examples of this, and both were very successful for us. Iknow there aren't many Erling Håland's out there, but still there are gems to be found.
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Post by baconburger on Jun 9, 2024 9:16:31 GMT
We could neither afford or attract top world talent. Maybe comparisons to what we could afford and attract would be more meaningful. I mean I’m not even certain Conway is a realistic target he’s declined a new contract at Bristol City maybe there’s interest from a club higher. I still rue spending £12.5M on Afobe the same summer Alexander Sørloth went from Palace to Spain on loan after being looked upon as a flop in Palace. A cheeky bid around £6-7M would probably have been enough at the time. This season he probably would have been the top scorer in La Liaga if he hadn't been injured before the last game of the season. It's about seeing talent and strengths even though players have failed elsewhere. Steino and Sheron are also examples of this, and both were very successful for us. Iknow there aren't many Erling Håland's out there, but still there are gems to be found. Definitely I think we found a few last season awful as it was. They are your speculative transfers which should be to add to an already competitive pool. We had a very poor starting position last Summer so the speculative buys had to be integral right from the word go almost. I thought we had a better starting position this summer and hoped we’d continue with the speculation but it seems (I stress seems) the focus has turned shorter term. I’m not a fan but who knows?
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Post by Billy the kid on Jun 9, 2024 9:26:44 GMT
I still rue spending £12.5M on Afobe the same summer Alexander Sørloth went from Palace to Spain on loan after being looked upon as a flop in Palace. A cheeky bid around £6-7M would probably have been enough at the time. This season he probably would have been the top scorer in La Liaga if he hadn't been injured before the last game of the season. It's about seeing talent and strengths even though players have failed elsewhere. Steino and Sheron are also examples of this, and both were very successful for us. Iknow there aren't many Erling Håland's out there, but still there are gems to be found. Definitely I think we found a few last season awful as it was. They are your speculative transfers which should be to add to an already competitive pool. We had a very poor starting position last Summer so the speculative buys had to be integral right from the word go almost. I thought we had a better starting position this summer and hoped we’d continue with the speculation but it seems (I stress seems) the focus has turned shorter term. I’m not a fan but who knows? Most of our early business last years was run of the mill squad fillers. The speculative side of our business came much later, and it was explained at the time that our recruitment was designed to get the easy deals done early and try and push the boat out for "exceptional or potential" later, along with some corporate waffle about pillers etc. I much expect this widow will the of a similar pattern. We also have to factor in that we actually have players other teams will be interested in, so a lot will ride on what we can retain.
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Post by baconburger on Jun 9, 2024 9:38:22 GMT
Definitely I think we found a few last season awful as it was. They are your speculative transfers which should be to add to an already competitive pool. We had a very poor starting position last Summer so the speculative buys had to be integral right from the word go almost. I thought we had a better starting position this summer and hoped we’d continue with the speculation but it seems (I stress seems) the focus has turned shorter term. I’m not a fan but who knows? Most of our early business last years was run of the mill squad fillers. The speculative side of our business came much later, and it was explained at the time that our recruitment was designed to get the easy deals done early and try and push the boat out for "exceptional or potential" later, along with some corporate waffle about pillers etc. I much expect this widow will the of a similar pattern. We also have to factor in that we actually have players other teams will be interested in, so a lot will ride on what we can retain. Yeah I know AN described them as ones for the here and now and most of them were spectacularly unsuccessful. Outgoings could be very interesting we have far too many players for deep lying midfield positions when the HC aspires to only play one and no really effective ACM if Junho is going to stay wide. I’d be perfectly happy to see Baker Johnson and Laurent move on. I actually like Laurent but don’t think he’s any good as an advanced midfielder. That would make room for Cundle plus one other ACM and we’d still have a pool of Burger, Pearson and Thompson for the deep lying role provided they all stay.
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Post by meladben on Jun 12, 2024 7:26:26 GMT
I'd like to think all that talk of knuckling down towards the end of last season isn't just b/s and we do get a return from him ...he's still got miles in his legs it's upto him if we get to use them ...i believe there's a player in him somewhere
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Post by baconburger on Jun 12, 2024 8:07:49 GMT
I'd like to think all that talk of knuckling down towards the end of last season isn't just b/s and we do get a return from him ...he's still got miles in his legs it's upto him if we get to use them ...i believe there's a player in him somewhere He’s got miles in his legs it just takes him a lot longer than anyone else to cover them. Low mileage footballer, never been driven fast or hard. Some kangarooing but it’s just bad fuel honest.
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