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Post by lordb on May 31, 2024 17:02:25 GMT
Ennis was clearly brought in because he was available and cheap when we were very short on numbers up front. Anybody who thinks he is any kind of long term option in the eyes of the manager should have a rethink. then why we stuck with him for the next two seasons , a waste of wage and taking a squad place possibly or possibly a handy cheap squad player also don't think he will be that difficult to move on imo this entire window will depend on the striker we do bring in
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Post by wakefieldstokie on May 31, 2024 17:06:15 GMT
then why we stuck with him for the next two seasons , a waste of wage and taking a squad place possibly or possibly a handy cheap squad player also don't think he will be that difficult to move on imo this entire window will depend on the striker we do bring in I’m not sure we will bring in a striker
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Post by lordb on May 31, 2024 17:15:12 GMT
possibly or possibly a handy cheap squad player also don't think he will be that difficult to move on imo this entire window will depend on the striker we do bring in I’m not sure we will bring in a striker Of course we will, Schumacher recent interview made that clear, we would have kept Campbell otherwise We may sign 2 never mind 1 just a question of who and if they are any good or not My guess is 1 permanent for a relatively large fee and 1 loan with Tezgel and Lowe going out on loan Mmaee might leave to of course but hard to say I think
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Post by etebojan on May 31, 2024 17:19:16 GMT
I’m not sure we will bring in a striker Of course we will, Schumacher recent interview made that clear, we would have kept Campbell otherwise We may sign 2 never mind 1 just a question of who and if they are any good or not My guess is 1 permanent for a relatively large fee and 1 loan with Tezgel and Lowe going out on loan Mmaee might leave to of course but hard to say I think Agree... we've done brilliantly getting a goalie in on a free, and looks like we're being similarly shrewd with our potential defensive additions...i think that all points to us sticking a large majority of our budget on forward additions
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Post by lordb on May 31, 2024 17:21:32 GMT
Of course we will, Schumacher recent interview made that clear, we would have kept Campbell otherwise We may sign 2 never mind 1 just a question of who and if they are any good or not My guess is 1 permanent for a relatively large fee and 1 loan with Tezgel and Lowe going out on loan Mmaee might leave to of course but hard to say I think Agree... we've done brilliantly getting a goalie in on a free, and looks like we're being similarly shrewd with our potential defensive additions...i think that all points to us sticking a large majority of our budget on forward additions Hopefully however it's also the time of year when free agents get picked up, the big money will be spent much later (not just Stoke)
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Post by thornestein on Jun 1, 2024 9:01:21 GMT
possibly or possibly a handy cheap squad player also don't think he will be that difficult to move on imo this entire window will depend on the striker we do bring in I’m not sure we will bring in a striker i’d say it’s number 1 priority considering we don’t score many and SS thinks the same
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Post by baconburger on Jun 1, 2024 11:25:31 GMT
I’m not sure we will bring in a striker i’d say it’s number 1 priority considering we don’t score many and SS thinks the same I’d say any notion of us not bringing in at least 1 central striker is absurd.
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Post by canadianmoose on Jun 1, 2024 12:38:55 GMT
Ennis was clearly brought in because he was available and cheap when we were very short on numbers up front. Anybody who thinks he is any kind of long term option in the eyes of the manager should have a rethink. then why we stuck with him for the next two seasons , a waste of wage and taking a squad place Because, like in any other walk of life, people make deals. Would you sign a contract as a football player for 1 year when you are already on a deal for 2 or 3? He’s cheap and provided an option. An option that was actually prepared to run and put a shift in, something we were sorely lacking. He’s a squad filler and it’s fairly clear to me that is all he will be going forward.
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Post by thornestein on Jun 1, 2024 13:33:15 GMT
then why we stuck with him for the next two seasons , a waste of wage and taking a squad place Because, like in any other walk of life, people make deals. Would you sign a contract as a football player for 1 year when you are already on a deal for 2 or 3? He’s cheap and provided an option. An option that was actually prepared to run and put a shift in, something we were sorely lacking. He’s a squad filler and it’s fairly clear to me that is all he will be going forward. then he’s long term so will be in the managers plans somewhere along the line 🤣😂
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Post by monsoonmoon on Jun 4, 2024 14:08:36 GMT
For me, Mmaee's best position seems to be a deep-lying forward. I know it's only one game, but against Blues away he dropped off into intelligent space, meaning defenders followed him in and left gaps for runners from wide or deeper to exploit. His performance in that game really gave me hope that under Schumacher he was going to kick on. Fast-forward and add Manhoef and Bae playing the inverted roles they finished the season in, along with talk of an attacking full-back in McCallum and Tchamadeu, he could potentially knit things together pretty well imo if he was used in that withdrawn role with those type of players bombing on. For balance, you'd want a better goals return regardless and it's a worry how frequently he picks up injuries. As for his attitude, it got called out and he seemingly knuckled down and get back in to the side. Plenty of suitors may see the positive side of that. The negative could well be put down to circumstances... I've said this myself. He's a much more intelligent footballer than people give him credit for. Undoubtedly a questionable attitude (hopefully SS has put him in his place on this) He'd thrive with a proper No9 Infront of him and two intelligent talents at the side on Bae and Manhoef! Or even as the striker (picking and choosing your games appropriately) if you can get goals from a centre-midfielder running beyond. The comparison in my mind, and by no way am I saying they’re on an equal level, is Liverpool winning the league with Firmino scoring single figures league goals as their starting striker. While he wasn’t prolific, he did allow others to be with his all-round play. Mmaee would need to improve, of course, but he’s got that first season of adaption out of the way. And in fairness, it was a fairly tumultuous one off the field to get bombed into. Also worth remembering he’s joined from a Ferencvaros where he was in the best team in the league pretty much, so mindsets and tactical setups are going to be wildly different to what he was adapting to here.
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Post by aixpotter on Jun 7, 2024 13:34:55 GMT
Does anyone really care?
I for one don’t!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 7, 2024 14:41:02 GMT
Does anyone really care? I for one don’t! You don't care if a Stoke City player leaves or not? Bit odd.
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Post by baconburger on Jun 7, 2024 15:34:35 GMT
Does anyone really care? I for one don’t! You don't care if a Stoke City player leaves or not? Bit odd. Not really I don’t care if any of them leave as long as the money is right. In this case I’d probably be quite pleased if he left even if the money wasn’t right just so long as we bought in an alternative on top of the at least 1 CF I expect us to sign anyway.
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Post by biddulphchav on Jun 8, 2024 14:06:33 GMT
I've said this myself. He's a much more intelligent footballer than people give him credit for. Undoubtedly a questionable attitude (hopefully SS has put him in his place on this) He'd thrive with a proper No9 Infront of him and two intelligent talents at the side on Bae and Manhoef! Or even as the striker (picking and choosing your games appropriately) if you can get goals from a centre-midfielder running beyond. The comparison in my mind, and by no way am I saying they’re on an equal level, is Liverpool winning the league with Firmino scoring single figures league goals as their starting striker. While he wasn’t prolific, he did allow others to be with his all-round play. Mmaee would need to improve, of course, but he’s got that first season of adaption out of the way. And in fairness, it was a fairly tumultuous one off the field to get bombed into. Also worth remembering he’s joined from a Ferencvaros where he was in the best team in the league pretty much, so mindsets and tactical setups are going to be wildly different to what he was adapting to here. The current Arsenal team have a similar set up and did well too, with Havertz up to (or Jesus). Mmaee is a good footballer, I think he could do a job for us but needs to put himself about a little more, which he seemed to be doing before he got injured. I hope we stick with him but bring in some competition as Ennis is not up to the mark in my opinion.
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Jun 8, 2024 14:50:54 GMT
Of course we will, Schumacher recent interview made that clear, we would have kept Campbell otherwise We may sign 2 never mind 1 just a question of who and if they are any good or not My guess is 1 permanent for a relatively large fee and 1 loan with Tezgel and Lowe going out on loan Mmaee might leave to of course but hard to say I think Agree... we've done brilliantly getting a goalie in on a free, and looks like we're being similarly shrewd with our potential defensive additions...i think that all points to us sticking a large majority of our budget on forward additions Goalie on a free thought he’d cost about 900k?
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Post by stokecitytalke on Jun 8, 2024 15:24:45 GMT
Agree... we've done brilliantly getting a goalie in on a free, and looks like we're being similarly shrewd with our potential defensive additions...i think that all points to us sticking a large majority of our budget on forward additions Goalie on a free thought he’d cost about 900k? Yes he did.
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Post by thestokielad on Jun 8, 2024 19:03:12 GMT
Id have him gone for a mill. He shouldn't be anywhere near the team if we want to finish in the top half. Tezgel would do better than him
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Post by baconburger on Jun 8, 2024 19:21:57 GMT
Id have him gone for a mill. He shouldn't be anywhere near the team if we want to finish in the top half. Tezgel would do better than him I completely agree with the first part but is that the same Tezgel who was neither a regular starter or goal scorer in league 2? You could be looking at another 2 years on loan for him and at least that for Lowe.
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Post by thestokielad on Jun 8, 2024 19:25:45 GMT
Id have him gone for a mill. He shouldn't be anywhere near the team if we want to finish in the top half. Tezgel would do better than him I completely agree with the first part but is that the same Tezgel who was neither a regular starter or goal scorer in league 2? You could be looking at another 2 years on loan for him and at least that for Lowe. he was coming back from an injury and towards the end of the season he was playing regularly and scoring goals. He was mint in preseason last year
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Post by thestokielad on Jun 8, 2024 19:26:58 GMT
Id have him gone for a mill. He shouldn't be anywhere near the team if we want to finish in the top half. Tezgel would do better than him I completely agree with the first part but is that the same Tezgel who was neither a regular starter or goal scorer in league 2? You could be looking at another 2 years on loan for him and at least that for Lowe. Tezgel obviously won't be a starter but id take him as a squad player over mmae and Ennis
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Post by aixpotter on Jun 8, 2024 19:31:38 GMT
Does anyone really care? I for one don’t! You don't care if a Stoke City player leaves or not? Bit odd. Not really. I don’t think he’s good enough. I could be wrong, I think there was an occasion once when I was wrong! Hehe! I think if all we have is a choice between him and Ennis, we’ll struggle again next season. Don’t you agree?
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Post by baconburger on Jun 8, 2024 19:31:38 GMT
I completely agree with the first part but is that the same Tezgel who was neither a regular starter or goal scorer in league 2? You could be looking at another 2 years on loan for him and at least that for Lowe. Tezgel obviously won't be a starter but id take him as a squad player over mmae and Ennis That’s not best for his development. He could do with going somewhere he’ll get 90 minutes most weeks probably league 2 with a view to moving him a step higher in Jan if he’s doing the business. How much older is Tommy Conway he’s got 2 seasons as top scorer in a championship team under his belt already. I’d like us to get him or at least try.
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Post by firfuxache on Jun 8, 2024 19:45:16 GMT
Tezgel obviously won't be a starter but id take him as a squad player over mmae and Ennis That’s not best for his development. He could do with going somewhere he’ll get 90 minutes most weeks probably league 2 with a view to moving him a step higher in Jan if he’s doing the business. How much older is Tommy Conway he’s got 2 seasons as top scorer in a championship team under his belt already. I’d like us to get him or at least try. Tommy Conway from Bristol City? He played 39 and scored 10 last season at the age of 21. Not convinced on 1. If he’d be the answer to our striker issues and 2. If Bristol would be willing to sell to a rival There’s got to be other better options that are out there.
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Post by baconburger on Jun 8, 2024 19:53:12 GMT
That’s not best for his development. He could do with going somewhere he’ll get 90 minutes most weeks probably league 2 with a view to moving him a step higher in Jan if he’s doing the business. How much older is Tommy Conway he’s got 2 seasons as top scorer in a championship team under his belt already. I’d like us to get him or at least try. Tommy Conway from Bristol City? He played 39 and scored 10 last season at the age of 21. Not convinced on 1. If he’d be the answer to our striker issues and 2. If Bristol would be willing to sell to a rival There’s got to be other better options that are out there. He’s top scored for them in 2 consecutive seasons. He’s got 1 year left and has declined a new contract. I’d be very surprised if we do a better permanent deal.
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Post by 1948fitch on Jun 8, 2024 20:08:00 GMT
Tommy Conway from Bristol City? He played 39 and scored 10 last season at the age of 21. Not convinced on 1. If he’d be the answer to our striker issues and 2. If Bristol would be willing to sell to a rival There’s got to be other better options that are out there. He’s top scored for them in 2 consecutive seasons. He’s got 1 year left and has declined a new contract. I’d be very surprised if we do a better permanent deal. is he in the Scotland squad?
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Post by baconburger on Jun 8, 2024 20:19:10 GMT
He’s top scored for them in 2 consecutive seasons. He’s got 1 year left and has declined a new contract. I’d be very surprised if we do a better permanent deal. is he in the Scotland squad? Yeah he was a late call up for some injury to another player. Don’t know if he’s in the final squad they might be reducing like England did but he was certainly called into the squad. Very good experience for his age and I quite like his game too. I think he’s my favourite now to sign in front of BTA but there’s hundreds of players I’ve never heard of or seen too. I’d prefer we buy our own CF than loan one. Even if Tezgel and Lowe come through I don’t think another would be overkill. EDIT: called up due to injury to Lyndon Dykes a player we were linked with at one time or other, scored a really good goal against us vs QPR (A).
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Post by dirtclod on Jun 8, 2024 20:31:22 GMT
Must say this after reading the thread title:
Darlin' you've got to let me know...
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Post by nonameface on Jun 8, 2024 21:06:24 GMT
Would prefer to keep Mmaee as our number one striker rather than sign Conway.
Conway is best suited to direct football where he can use his stamina to keep pressing players, similar to how Brown did for us.
He was well suited to Nigel Pearson, last year scoring 9 in 34 league games which for his age was excellent. This year hes scored 10 in 39 and 5 of those have been penalties. He's struggling with Mannings football (as is Sam Bell) where his lack of footballing ability lets him down.
He's quite similar in footballing style to Ennis, just better and had a good FA Cup run.
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Post by baconburger on Jun 9, 2024 7:14:52 GMT
Would prefer to keep Mmaee as our number one striker rather than sign Conway. Conway is best suited to direct football where he can use his stamina to keep pressing players, similar to how Brown did for us. He was well suited to Nigel Pearson, last year scoring 9 in 34 league games which for his age was excellent. This year hes scored 10 in 39 and 5 of those have been penalties. He's struggling with Mannings football (as is Sam Bell) where his lack of footballing ability lets him down. He's quite similar in footballing style to Ennis, just better and had a good FA Cup run. Quite similar in football style to Ennis but better sound fine to me. Ennis has the right sort of energy and aggression but his touch and finishing aren’t good enough for this level. Mmaee doesn’t have the energy or aggression to play as a CF in England neither is his finishing too hot, good touch not much else. I thought he was a younger possibly cheaper option to BTA but you won’t like either if you don’t want a physical CF.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jun 9, 2024 7:57:39 GMT
Would prefer to keep Mmaee as our number one striker rather than sign Conway. Conway is best suited to direct football where he can use his stamina to keep pressing players, similar to how Brown did for us. He was well suited to Nigel Pearson, last year scoring 9 in 34 league games which for his age was excellent. This year hes scored 10 in 39 and 5 of those have been penalties. He's struggling with Mannings football (as is Sam Bell) where his lack of footballing ability lets him down. He's quite similar in footballing style to Ennis, just better and had a good FA Cup run. Wasn't Erling Håland around the same age in his first season in the PL? 9 in 34 in the Championship, well, not bad but .......
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