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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2024 12:54:05 GMT
If we're looking to score more goals next season, we need better. He should be falling over himself to play for a club like Stoke, but if he can't be arsed with discipline, hard work and application, he can get back to pulling up trees in Cyprus.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2024 12:56:58 GMT
He'll be out the door ASAP with any luck Bang average player but with an appalling attitude What's the difference between average and bang average? Is average, well, average with bang average being crap and therefore below average in which case just say crap Sorry it just narks me as a meaningless phrase The other one that irritates is saying something is 'a big ask' instead of 'a tough task' Average suggests 'meh', nowt special. Bang average suggests that a player's the very definition of average, e.g. no redeeming features. On the scale of averageness, 'bang average' sits between average and 'bog-average' 😉
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Post by bertiestan on May 26, 2024 12:57:35 GMT
If we're looking to score more goals next season, we need better. He should be falling over himself to play for a club like Stoke, but if he can't be arsed with discipline, hard work and application, he can get back to pulling up trees in Cyprus. You mean Hungary?🔴⚪️
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2024 12:58:34 GMT
If we're looking to score more goals next season, we need better. He should be falling over himself to play for a club like Stoke, but if he can't be arsed with discipline, hard work and application, he can get back to pulling up trees in Cyprus. You mean Hungary?🔴⚪️ No, Limassol was in Cyprus, the last time I looked.
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Post by roylandstoke on May 26, 2024 13:02:19 GMT
When he played last season he was a weak link in a poor team.
He appears to have a bad attitude: a mardarse Lee Gregory. We haven’t had a really good striker for a long time, and I’ve got this player towards the bottom of my list.
I can’t see much of a case for keeping him. As always, we have to trust the manager’s judgement, because ours don’t matter.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on May 26, 2024 13:09:52 GMT
His surname is five letters long. Is it that tricky? Maybe it was a simple tvpo
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Post by marylandstoke on May 26, 2024 13:39:52 GMT
Maybe it was spill chick?
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Post by Biblical on May 26, 2024 14:11:33 GMT
Lot of variables in play here and who knows what Schumacher is thinking. Does he think he can trust him given the issues last season?
Mmaee has shown glimpses of ability but I don’t think I’d be happy going into next season knowing he’s going to be the main man, I think we need better and hopefully we sign someone.
If we do manage to sign someone better will he be happy not being the main man?
I also think he’s probably on very good wages and he’ll be difficult to shift, even if someone offered to take him off us he might be happy to just sit on his contract.
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Post by baconburger on May 26, 2024 14:28:04 GMT
Lot of variables in play here and who knows what Schumacher is thinking. Does he think he can trust him given the issues last season? Mmaee has shown glimpses of ability but I don’t think I’d be happy going into next season knowing he’s going to be the main man, I think we need better and hopefully we sign someone. If we do manage to sign someone better will he be happy not being the main man? I also think he’s probably on very good wages and he’ll be difficult to shift, even if someone offered to take him off us he might be happy to just sit on his contract. Doubt he's on big wages our wage bill shrunk considerably last season even though we know the likes of Wesley were on big money, Johnson/Pearson a very good championship wage. which suggests those we recruited from abroad are not on big contracts. Having come from the Hungarian league he will have been on peanuts so could have had a missive raise still without being on a big championship wage.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2024 14:29:22 GMT
Lot of variables in play here and who knows what Schumacher is thinking. Does he think he can trust him given the issues last season? Mmaee has shown glimpses of ability but I don’t think I’d be happy going into next season knowing he’s going to be the main man, I think we need better and hopefully we sign someone. If we do manage to sign someone better will he be happy not being the main man? I also think he’s probably on very good wages and he’ll be difficult to shift, even if someone offered to take him off us he might be happy to just sit on his contract. Huge understatement here mate, we went into last season with him as the main man, a huge gamble that nearly got us relegated. They won't make that mistake again
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Post by baconburger on May 26, 2024 14:38:56 GMT
Lot of variables in play here and who knows what Schumacher is thinking. Does he think he can trust him given the issues last season? Mmaee has shown glimpses of ability but I don’t think I’d be happy going into next season knowing he’s going to be the main man, I think we need better and hopefully we sign someone. If we do manage to sign someone better will he be happy not being the main man? I also think he’s probably on very good wages and he’ll be difficult to shift, even if someone offered to take him off us he might be happy to just sit on his contract. Huge understatement here mate, we went into last season with him as the main man, a huge gamble that nearly got us relegated. They won't make that mistake again Don't think that was ever the intention we chased more high profile CF right up until the window closed.
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Post by jokker on May 26, 2024 15:08:15 GMT
I can’t see much of a case for keeping him. His contract runs another two years, and you've just listed several reasons why he has limited transfer appeal, i.e. why would anyone want to buy him, even if he costs a nominal fee? So on we go with him.
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Post by roylandstoke on May 26, 2024 15:24:18 GMT
I can’t see much of a case for keeping him. His contract runs another two years, and you've just listed several reasons why he has limited transfer appeal, i.e. why would anyone want to buy him, even if he costs a nominal fee? So on we go with him. I can’t see anyone coming for him, so I agree we will have to go on with him in one way or another.
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Post by bertiestan on May 26, 2024 15:39:18 GMT
No, Limassol was in Cyprus, the last time I looked. No Ferencvaros we had him from which is in Hungary🔴⚪️
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Post by GrahamHyde on May 26, 2024 15:52:48 GMT
I hope he stays, I like him - maybe blind faith but I think he's a good footballer at this level.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 26, 2024 15:53:09 GMT
I can’t see much of a case for keeping him. His contract runs another two years, and you've just listed several reasons why he has limited transfer appeal, i.e. why would anyone want to buy him, even if he costs a nominal fee? So on we go with him. If Schumacher gets it right I reckon Mmaee will begin functioning next season. I can see 15 to 20 goal contributions. Would be good to see him getting 15 goals out of that. There's a decent player in there, we just got to work out how to tap into it. I'd keep him if no offer in excess of 5 or 6m is coming in and I doubt an offer like that will come in..
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Post by baconburger on May 26, 2024 16:00:31 GMT
His contract runs another two years, and you've just listed several reasons why he has limited transfer appeal, i.e. why would anyone want to buy him, even if he costs a nominal fee? So on we go with him. If Schumacher gets it right I reckon Mmaee will begin functioning next season. I can see 15 to 20 goal contributions. Would be good to see him getting 15 goals out of that. There's a decent player in there, we just got to work out how to tap into it. I'd keep him if no offer in excess of 5 or 6m is coming in and I doubt an offer like that will come in.. 5 or 6 million what? Turkish Lira. If were talking £'s anything in excess of £500,000 would be a result.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 26, 2024 16:06:21 GMT
If Schumacher gets it right I reckon Mmaee will begin functioning next season. I can see 15 to 20 goal contributions. Would be good to see him getting 15 goals out of that. There's a decent player in there, we just got to work out how to tap into it. I'd keep him if no offer in excess of 5 or 6m is coming in and I doubt an offer like that will come in.. 5 or 6 million what? Turkish Lira. If were talking £'s anything in excess of £500,000 would be a result. Hence why I said I doubt an offer like that is coming in. He's valued at 2.8m on transfermkt or whatever that site is. He most definitely has potential to be decent at this level 👍
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Post by lordb on May 26, 2024 16:06:53 GMT
No, Limassol was in Cyprus, the last time I looked. Yes it is We signed him from a Hungarian club
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Post by Scrotnig on May 26, 2024 16:24:57 GMT
Hope he goes. Burned his bridges.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on May 26, 2024 16:28:53 GMT
I thought mid way through the season he started to toughen up and get used to the league a bit.
Then we went a bit soft again, and then started playing a bit smarter right at the end before his injury.
I think he has the skill and contrary to popular opinions on this messageboard he does know where the back of the net is.
The main problems for me are - he needs to play more rough against defenders and his general attitude to give a shit. If he cant sort that out he wont be a successful lone striker in this league.
So I can totally see why others would want to sell him.
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Post by baconburger on May 26, 2024 16:43:24 GMT
I thought mid way through the season he started to toughen up and get used to the league a bit. Then we went a bit soft again, and then started playing a bit smarter right at the end before his injury. I think he has the skill and contrary to popular opinions on this messageboard he does know where the back of the net is. The main problems for me are - he needs to play more rough against defenders and his general attitude to give a shit. If he cant sort that out he wont be a successful lone striker in this league. So I can totally see why others would want to sell him. Must of missed him toughening up unless it amounted to less than 90 mins vs Watford (A).
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 26, 2024 16:44:40 GMT
He knows where the back of the net is,it's just a pity he can't fecking hit it.
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Post by dirtygary69 on May 26, 2024 16:49:55 GMT
Was he there for the Bristol City game?
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Post by cheekymatt71 on May 26, 2024 16:52:48 GMT
I thought mid way through the season he started to toughen up and get used to the league a bit. Then we went a bit soft again, and then started playing a bit smarter right at the end before his injury. I think he has the skill and contrary to popular opinions on this messageboard he does know where the back of the net is. The main problems for me are - he needs to play more rough against defenders and his general attitude to give a shit. If he cant sort that out he wont be a successful lone striker in this league. So I can totally see why others would want to sell him. Must of missed him toughening up unless it amounted to less than 90 mins vs Watford (A). It was something that I noticed he managed for about 2 or 3 games mid-season before reverting to type. His first 10-12 games I nearly wrote him off as a player in English league just because he couldnt handle the big tough central defenders. He was losing every first and second ball coming into him. Then suddenly he adapted his way of playing for a couple of games - was first to the ball, holding it up and laying it off and looked like a centre-forward. His last few games he just started coming deeper and wasnt really a focal point anymore - but was still linking play ok. My point is - his first dozen games were a complete write-off where he really had some tough lessons to take - but I would say he adjusted quite well in the end. So I do think hes worth giving another chance with a solid Shumacher pre-season. IF he has the attitude to put the effort in of course which is highly questionable given his past record.
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Post by HarryTheHat on May 26, 2024 17:21:32 GMT
He knows where the back of the net is,it's just a pity he can't fecking hit it. How would we cope next season without his massive 4 goal tally - bin him off!
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Post by generationex on May 26, 2024 17:48:47 GMT
Only player in the team whose name is a palindrome.
Are there any others in the league?
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Post by scfcwebby on May 26, 2024 18:08:02 GMT
He is a very, very good player, he is just not a lone CF Put him just behind a proper CF and I think he will thrive Experience tells me different, he's been even worse when played in that type of role on the odd occasion. He's too slow and lazy to operate wide too. He hasn't really got a best position. He's nesh, slow and lazy with the odd nice touch. Genuinely can't remember I time when he had been played in a front 2 🤔
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Post by idle on May 26, 2024 18:50:54 GMT
What's the difference between average and bang average? Is average, well, average with bang average being crap and therefore below average in which case just say crap Sorry it just narks me as a meaningless phrase The other one that irritates is saying something is 'a big ask' instead of 'a tough task' Obviously, bang average is right on the median, where as average allows for median absolute deviation. But median isn't the same as average. Imagine players being rated as such: 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 4, 4, 7, 8, 9. The (bang) average would be 4, while the median is 3. Plus, I've never heard of a "bang median" player
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Post by fazza90 on May 26, 2024 19:03:41 GMT
I think he's quality at this level when he's fired up for it but he's more of a clever, skillful footballer than an out and out goalscorer. If Million can continue as he was & Junho can get on the end of more chances then we could have a really potent front three with Mmaee in the Firmino role of causing havoc, making space and playing in the wide players to score.
It's always easier said than done to find a decent consistent striker at this level so I'd persist with him and but not put up with any nonsense. If he plays silly buggers again off to the U21s again.
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