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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 5, 2024 19:11:55 GMT
The Tyrese Campbell of the last 3 games would be an asset to a lot of football clubs,sadly the Tyrese Campbell for the rest of the season would be a bone idle passenger for most football clubs.
I think it’s the best move for all concerned
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Post by fentonstokie1 on May 5, 2024 19:18:18 GMT
All those who thought he’d sign a new contract consider yourselves mugged off. Good riddance to an underperforming player. Yeah Tyrese thanks for all the memories over the last umpteen appearances watching you shuffle around like a worn out old boxer, it speaks volumes that you managed to get your arse in gear for a couple of games as the season and your contract came to a close. |
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Post by senojbor on May 5, 2024 19:26:01 GMT
I'm disappointed to see him go. I'm also a little concerned he might get a move to a bigger/better club which might in turn, get other players heads turning about their potential for a move (I'm thinking Bae, or Burger maybe) - looking from the outside thinking - if Tye can get a move to Bournemouth/Palace etc, then I sure as hell could. I hope Campbell doesn't sign elsewhere in the Championship. I'd be surprised if he signed for PL side. He's nowhere near that level. |
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Post by chayseeoatcake on May 5, 2024 19:34:50 GMT
Can see numerous premier league clubs offering him a deal.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 5, 2024 19:47:33 GMT
Little bit surprised it seems to be our call not to offer him anything meaningful.
But probably not the worst call for either party. Potentially would have taken a sizeable salary offer (although maybe less than what he's been on for the last 4 yrs) to compete with the Bosman offers he knows he could get, and maybe it's time we try and go all-in on a new main man who'll be starting the bulk of games.
Maybe the chances of Stansfield have gone up with Birmingham's demise
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Post by Bojan Mackey on May 5, 2024 19:51:14 GMT
Can see numerous premier league clubs offering him a deal. Scottish Premiership yeah. |
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Post by stokest5 on May 5, 2024 20:07:20 GMT
Can see numerous premier league clubs offering him a deal. Based on what exactly? We’re a club who’ve just missed out on relegation by the skin of our teeth. Why would premier leagues clubs be circling one of our released players? |
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Post by davejohnno1 on May 5, 2024 20:21:08 GMT
Little bit surprised it seems to be our call not to offer him anything meaningful. But probably not the worst call for either party. Potentially would have taken a sizeable salary offer (although maybe less than what he's been on for the last 4 yrs) to compete with the Bosman offers he knows he could get, and maybe it's time we try and go all-in on a new main man who'll be starting the bulk of games. Maybe the chances of Stansfield have gone up with Birmingham's demise Post match, Schumacher said “when he plays properly…” I think this call is the managers and he simply doesn’t trust him and what he’ll offer consistently. He’ll be one of the biggest earners and I think they probably feel he’s worth sacrificing. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see the triumvirate of Campbell, Laurent and Baker smashed to pieces this summer. Big characters, popular lads but perhaps not serious enough in the way they go about their daily business for Schumacher?? |
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Post by Ron on May 5, 2024 20:21:46 GMT
The goals in the last two games are what he’s about when at his best. His injury issues have had a huge impact on his career. That said, when he’s sharp, he can score wonderful goals.
That said, his attitude at times has seemingly been questionable. He seems a bit “mardy” to the extent this impacts his performance and I genuinely believe his dad is more of an influence than he needs to have been.
He just isn’t, and never will be, a workhorse forward and, for that alone, a lot of our fans won’t appreciate him ( you need to chase crisp packets for some of our fanbase to appreciate a player). He can finish though.
Overall- I think this is, sadly, the right move for all concerned. He will have good spells and score goals wherever he ends up.
The last of the clan from the premier league days to depart which, ultimately, makes it seem like it really now is the end of an era.
Good luck to him. Got ability and I’m sure he’ll come back and haunt us one day.
Get him in a positive mindset and he’ll be an asset for anyone at our level… but that’s the challenge for whoever takes him.
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Post by Ron on May 5, 2024 20:23:49 GMT
Can see numerous premier league clubs offering him a deal. no chance |
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Post by spitthedog on May 5, 2024 20:24:32 GMT
Campbell started only 14 league games for us this season, only 3 more than Cundle and Hoever started 35, so some context is probably needed here. Mmaee (17) started more games than Campbell and scored 3 goals as well. Context is also needed in the fact that Campbell has only recently hit the 30 goal mark in 6 seasons is it? Some still throwing out the 15/20 goals a season stuff The 15/20 goal a season stuff is speculation of course, the fact he started only 14 games this season is actually a fact which seems to have passed some by and undermines alot of comments about his contribution this season. ....and the 6 season thing is poor contextualisation too. He only played 3 games in that 1st seasons of those 6 so that needs correcting, basically because he was an Under 21 player. He went on loan in League One for one of those seasons, where he scored 5 goals in 15 games as an 18 year old. He has started in 84 league games for Stoke in his career over 5 seasons, the rest he was used as a sub or injured. In that time he has scored 31 league goals. He has scored 1 in 3 in games he has started. If you don't think he's a good footballer that is absolutely fine, its all about opinions, but the stats about him stated on here are quite creative, put it that way. |
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Post by senojbor on May 5, 2024 20:33:20 GMT
Little bit surprised it seems to be our call not to offer him anything meaningful. But probably not the worst call for either party. Potentially would have taken a sizeable salary offer (although maybe less than what he's been on for the last 4 yrs) to compete with the Bosman offers he knows he could get, and maybe it's time we try and go all-in on a new main man who'll be starting the bulk of games. Maybe the chances of Stansfield have gone up with Birmingham's demise Post match, Schumacher said “when he plays properly…” I think this call is the managers and he simply doesn’t trust him and what he’ll offer consistently. He’ll be one of the biggest earners and I think they probably feel he’s worth sacrificing. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see the triumvirate of Campbell, Laurent and Baker smashed to pieces this summer. Big characters, popular lads but perhaps not serious enough in the way they go about their daily business for Schumacher?? Absolutely, Baker has had his day and at 29 past his best. He's never settled anywhere before we got him on a free. Laurent, now at 28 has played mostly lower league football and has been punching above his weight with us. |
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Post by wilcopotter on May 5, 2024 20:38:59 GMT
Can see numerous premier league clubs offering him a deal. Wiuld be amazed if that was the case. |
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Post by AlbertTatlock on May 5, 2024 20:43:42 GMT
Bye Tye bye Gouranga.  |
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Post by willieeetmiout on May 5, 2024 20:54:46 GMT
Context is also needed in the fact that Campbell has only recently hit the 30 goal mark in 6 seasons is it? Some still throwing out the 15/20 goals a season stuff The 15/20 goal a season stuff is speculation of course, the fact he started only 14 games this season is actually a fact which seems to have passed some by and undermines alot of comments about his contribution this season. ....and the 6 season thing is poor contextualisation too. He only played 3 games in that 1st seasons of those 6 so that needs correcting, basically because he was an Under 21 player. He went on loan in League One for one of those seasons, where he scored 5 goals in 15 games as an 18 year old. He has started in 84 league games for Stoke in his career over 5 seasons, the rest he was used as a sub or injured. In that time he has scored 31 league goals. He has scored 1 in 3 in games he has started. If you don't think he's a good footballer that is absolutely fine, its all about opinions, but the stats about him stated on here are quite creative, put it that way. And in his first real season for us he had 6 goals and 7 assists in 19 games then got injured. Tore Fulham a new hole in one game. Never the same after his injury but still only 24. Given what he says absolutely bizarre he started on Saturday though |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on May 5, 2024 21:04:47 GMT
Little bit surprised it seems to be our call not to offer him anything meaningful. But probably not the worst call for either party. Potentially would have taken a sizeable salary offer (although maybe less than what he's been on for the last 4 yrs) to compete with the Bosman offers he knows he could get, and maybe it's time we try and go all-in on a new main man who'll be starting the bulk of games. Maybe the chances of Stansfield have gone up with Birmingham's demise Post match, Schumacher said “when he plays properly…” I think this call is the managers and he simply doesn’t trust him and what he’ll offer consistently. He’ll be one of the biggest earners and I think they probably feel he’s worth sacrificing. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see the triumvirate of Campbell, Laurent and Baker smashed to pieces this summer. Big characters, popular lads but perhaps not serious enough in the way they go about their daily business for Schumacher?? Of those 3 I’ll be terrible disappointed to see Ty leave, think we are making a mistake. The other 2 not so much… |
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Post by davejohnno1 on May 5, 2024 21:14:32 GMT
Post match, Schumacher said “when he plays properly…” I think this call is the managers and he simply doesn’t trust him and what he’ll offer consistently. He’ll be one of the biggest earners and I think they probably feel he’s worth sacrificing. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see the triumvirate of Campbell, Laurent and Baker smashed to pieces this summer. Big characters, popular lads but perhaps not serious enough in the way they go about their daily business for Schumacher?? Of those 3 I’ll be terrible disappointed to see Ty leave, think we are making a mistake. The other 2 not so much… I like Ty as well but do think it’s the right time for both him and us for him to depart. |
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Post by gingerninja on May 5, 2024 21:17:57 GMT
Interesting comments Dave, they might be a bit clique for his liking?. He seems to like Laurant though, I am not fussed if he goes to be honest, I think we need and can get better to move up to be a top 6 team.
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Post by stokiekm on May 5, 2024 21:18:29 GMT
Judging by his reactions to his 2 goals he looked like mind was 100% made up. To me he looked like a player taking a swipe at being benched hence sitting on the ad board looking in. As for yesterday did strolling around pretend drinking look like a lad that gave a toss? The celebration he did at Southampton is a well known one, nothing to do with being on the bench. Never knew, thanks. Read that some West Ham player started it. Kids must be gutted, can't replicate that at training or park games! |
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Post by davejohnno1 on May 5, 2024 21:28:38 GMT
Interesting comments Dave, they might be a bit clique for his liking?. He seems to like Laurant though, I am not fussed if he goes to be honest, I think we need and can get better to move up to be a top 6 team. Purely speculation on my part. I don’t think they are cliquey in a bad way, certainly not Ty who is very inclusive and great for bringing everyone together. Schumacher strikes me as quite a serious person when it comes to football and I think what he considers “not training properly” is a bit different to what some of the players might think. |
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Post by thisisouryear on May 5, 2024 21:30:50 GMT
It would have been nice if he stayed and fought for his place in the team here as he still has a lot to offer but if it's time to part ways then so be it. Listening to Schumacher talk about him when he was asked about a possible contract it didn't seem like he was convinced by him. It will be interesting to see where his career goes from here and I wish him well.
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Post by stokieinlondon on May 5, 2024 21:34:12 GMT
FWIW I think TC has been a top guy to have around the place, and whilst he’s not been prolific or a massive part of the team for the most part - he’s been a big part of the club.
He’s 24.
He’s young.
His best years are ahead of him.
I’m worried that he’ll go to a rival and be amazing - but I do want that for him. Yet it bothers me that we didn’t try and make him stay which might come back to bite us (on and off the field)
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Post by thisisouryear on May 5, 2024 21:36:26 GMT
Interesting comments Dave, they might be a bit clique for his liking?. He seems to like Laurant though, I am not fussed if he goes to be honest, I think we need and can get better to move up to be a top 6 team. Laurent is one of those players who is a potential beast of a player. If Schumacher can unlock that then he will be a huge player for us. His finishing needs to improve a lot and his position but coached right and he will be a huge asset. I'm all for giving the players a clean slate to see what a proper pre-season brings |
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Post by andystokey on May 5, 2024 21:53:11 GMT
Interesting comments Dave, they might be a bit clique for his liking?. He seems to like Laurant though, I am not fussed if he goes to be honest, I think we need and can get better to move up to be a top 6 team. Purely speculation on my part. I don’t think they are cliquey in a bad way, certainly not Ty who is very inclusive and great for bringing everyone together. Schumacher strikes me as quite a serious person when it comes to football and I think what he considers “not training properly” is a bit different to what some of the players might think. I think you a right about the training, Cundle is a model pro in that respect, hes said as much several times. I have to admit the Larent/Tyrese bromance would get on my wick too. |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on May 5, 2024 22:00:53 GMT
Of those 3 I’ll be terrible disappointed to see Ty leave, think we are making a mistake. The other 2 not so much… I like Ty as well but do think it’s the right time for both him and us for him to depart. I’d have liked us to give him another year (with an option for us to renew for one more) I’ve a feeling he’ll be back to his best next season. |
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Post by AlbertTatlock on May 5, 2024 22:15:57 GMT
Swansea interested in taking Tyrese apparently (came up as a news link on my phone earlier) Gouranga. |
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Post by andystokey on May 5, 2024 22:19:32 GMT
I like Ty as well but do think it’s the right time for both him and us for him to depart. I’d have liked us to give him another year (with an option for us to renew for one more) I’ve a feeling he’ll be back to his best next season. He's never signing that though is he? He will want 4 years and good money |
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Post by Gods on May 5, 2024 22:22:20 GMT
I felt Tyrese was just recapturing the superb form he found that season MON came in and kept us up.
He is a magnificent football player to watch, beautifully balanced, looks better than his dad Kevin who chalked up 300 matches for Arsenal and Everton.
I very much doubt we'll sign anyone better.
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Post by nottsover60 on May 6, 2024 0:29:34 GMT
I felt Tyrese was just recapturing the superb form he found that season MON came in and kept us up. He is a magnificent football player to watch, beautifully balanced, looks better than his dad Kevin who chalked up 300 matches for Arsenal and Everton. I very much doubt we'll sign anyone better. Perhaps not better than Tyrese can be but definitely someone who is more consistent. The trouble I've always found with Tyrese is that his first few touches in a game dictate how he will play for the rest of the game. By that I mean that if he beats his man early in the game it gives him confidence but if he loses his first couple of battles he seems to decide it's not his day and gives up. |
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Post by dirtclod on May 6, 2024 1:25:32 GMT
Even if he was over-rated by some, that statement is class. Clearly Ty learned something in his time here. Good luck lad - all the best. |
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