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Post by coldtuesdaynight on May 6, 2024 2:22:42 GMT
Good luck to him. I’m sure there will be a season or two when we look jealously at how he’s getting on, he’s way better than he gets credit for.
But I can certainly understand the club not wanting to give him the wage he will probably end up with, he simply gets injured too much. When someone averages 20 games a season, well you have to more than double their salary to get a true reflection of what they are getting paid on a per game basis.
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Post by hotpot on May 6, 2024 2:30:20 GMT
Maybe he should try the Indian League. Especially if he can play a bit of cricket.
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Post by starkiller on May 6, 2024 3:39:40 GMT
The last couple of games he took opportunities and made very good goals indeed. Unfortunately, for much of the last few seasons, he has been wasteful and half-arsed with chances that have come his way.
I was hoping he would stay and we'd see more of the former, but odds are it would have been more of the latter.
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Post by clarkeda on May 6, 2024 5:23:49 GMT
Cheerio Campbell. Lazy, inconsistent and frustrating. No biggy. Wrexham bound ?? Shame he showed his ability to score goals once he knew he was in the shop window, I reckon his next stop could be Derby County. I wouldn’t be surprised at a league 1 Wrexham.
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Post by iglugluk on May 6, 2024 5:33:30 GMT
Great credit to the young man very sorry to see him leave and a level of integrity far higher than some of those that have stepped over the line from criticism to abuse Ive a feeling come the winter football will be saying how did stoke let that happen . Absolutely.. classy message and it's obvious from his use of the word 'learned' that he wasn't definite from his perspective that he was leaving. Either he wasn't wanted or he wasn't offered a sufficiently good contract to keep him here. Time will tell if that was the right decision from those that decided. On his day he's been the best goal scorer we've had on the books for many seasons. His day didn't happen often enough though it has to be said and the injury I suspect contributed to that fact. Big pity he left for free although his goal at Southampton was worth a fortune alone. Good luck to him.
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Post by clivey05 on May 6, 2024 6:24:41 GMT
It feels a bit like splitting up with your Ex. You probably know it’s the right decision, but the thought of them being with someone else makes you question if you should stay together a bit longer!!
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 6, 2024 6:43:43 GMT
I would rather have him in our side,than have him up against us with another club,
I really think he could get a lot of goals for us,the way the manager wants us to play going forward.
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Post by Gods on May 6, 2024 6:50:08 GMT
Even if he was over-rated by some, that statement is class. Clearly Ty learned something in his time here. Good luck lad - all the best. Blimey, I had assumed it was Tyrese decision. That reads like we have hoofed him out the door. Hopefully Niall Ennis has turns out to have a bit more to his game than just running around and trying to make a nuisance of himself.
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Post by firfuxache on May 6, 2024 7:00:42 GMT
I’ve got a feeling he’ll end up at Sheff Utd or Luton. Seems to have that feel about it.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 6, 2024 7:10:09 GMT
Shame he showed his ability to score goals once he knew he was in the shop window, I reckon his next stop could be Derby County. I wouldn’t be surprised at a league 1 Wrexham. That’s not a bad shout actually. They seem to have a bottomless pot at the moment and bags of ambition and potential. Not sure his dad's ego could cope with Division One though?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 6, 2024 7:15:06 GMT
I’ve got a feeling he’ll end up at Sheff Utd or Luton. Seems to have that feel about it. Don’t rule out Burnley either ( Kompany knows him )
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Post by george2again on May 6, 2024 7:19:50 GMT
I have noted I think, Lauren and Tynon in the last 48 hours comment, ‘ some player’ in relation to Campbell on social media. His two big buddies. Natural finisher and quick over 5 yards but that doesn’t constitute ‘some player’ status. He has been lazy and uninterested most of his tenure with us and frustrating to watch. He doesn’t lead the line well. For him to flourish he needs to play as one of two strikers with a team able to work for him. Definite problem with fitness and stamina. Could work elsewhere we wait and see.
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Post by questionable on May 6, 2024 7:23:45 GMT
At the end of the day what will be will be with regards to Campbell, we need a much more prolific player not a player that turns up now and then.
If Stoke wanted him to stay I’ve every confidence that he’d be staying put, surely we have player A & B lined up who will be an improvement and fits SS plans.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on May 6, 2024 7:36:38 GMT
It does look more like our decision based upon that social media post.
Surely I would assume Shumacher and Walters have someone in mind already to play centre-forward next season for us then?
Interesting to see who we get as a replacement
Thanks Tye, I always liked him as a player for Stoke and is a top finisher, but he probably needs some new surroundings to push his career on
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Post by wakefieldstokie on May 6, 2024 7:49:05 GMT
24 is young to let someone go, however with 6.25 goals average a season for the last four years you begin to see why we’ve struggled if our ‘leading’ prospect, striker, forward is only returning that goal ratio. Is he symptomatic of our struggles?
The argument about injury and playing in the right position is fair, however he’s had several managers, and none of them had him firing?
The fear is that he finds a championship club and starts to bang in the goals. Frankly I think the club have made the right decision, it won’t be easy but we have to try to find better.
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Post by xchpotter on May 6, 2024 7:49:26 GMT
Need to be objective. A couple of decent games and goals doesn’t turn him into Haaland and if this had happened in January I’m sure it would look different.
As it looks like it’s the clubs decision, it must bode well for who we have lined up………or, it could be one of the daftest decisions made, but then this is Stoke where we don’t do middle of the road.
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Post by Biblical on May 6, 2024 7:58:21 GMT
24 is young to let someone go, however with 6.25 goals average a season for the last four years you begin to see why we’ve struggled if our ‘leading’ prospect, striker, forward is only returning that goal ratio. Is he symptomatic of our struggles? The argument about injury and playing in the right position is fair, however he’s had several managers, and none of them had him firing? The fear is that he finds a championship club and starts to bang in the goals. Frankly I think the club have made the right decision, it won’t be easy but we have to try to find better. He’s had enough opportunities to show he could be the main man but hasn’t taken any of them. If he goes on to score loads elsewhere then fair enough but to do so he’d have to demonstrate an ability to stay injury-free and also find a level of consistency he hasn’t even come close to achieving at his time at the club. I’m happy he’s gone, he’s not the type of striker you want leading the line as a lone central striker and he’s also not getting in ahead of Manhoef on the right where a lot of people say he’s at his best.
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Post by delilahwhy on May 6, 2024 8:02:34 GMT
Even if he was over-rated by some, that statement is class. Clearly Ty learned something in his time here. Good luck lad - all the best. Blimey, I had assumed it was Tyrese decision. That reads like we have hoofed him out the door. Hopefully Niall Ennis has turns out to have a bit more to his game than just running around and trying to make a nuisance of himself. I'm not sure "hoofed him out the door" is how it played out. You'd like to think the decision was made without any emotion. Hes scored a couple of very good goals in the last 2 games, and it serves as a reminder of the potential he possesses. The overwhelming evidence we have to hand suggests he's not earned a new contract though. The fans treatment of him at times has been a tad embarrassing, however the player himself hasn't done anywhere near enough for large spells (and I'm talking bear minimum requirements). It's probably the best decision all round. I wish him well in the future. I imagine he'll rock up at another Champ club and it could easily go one of 2 ways for him, and a lot will largely depend on his desire and application. I don't think he's Prem bound or any other lucrative move, however his recent couple of goals may persuade somebody to take a punt. It'll be interesting to see who we bring in to replace him. I like Mmaee, and there's definitely more to come from him. Hopefully its him and one other vying for the front spot next season, with Ennis used very sparingly.
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Post by Gods on May 6, 2024 8:24:45 GMT
Blimey, I had assumed it was Tyrese decision. That reads like we have hoofed him out the door. Hopefully Niall Ennis has turns out to have a bit more to his game than just running around and trying to make a nuisance of himself. I'm not sure "hoofed him out the door" is how it played out. You'd like to think the decision was made without any emotion. Hes scored a couple of very good goals in the last 2 games, and it serves as a reminder of the potential he possesses. The overwhelming evidence we have to hand suggests he's not earned a new contract though. The fans treatment of him at times has been a tad embarrassing, however the player himself hasn't done anywhere near enough for large spells (and I'm talking bear minimum requirements). It's probably the best decision all round. I wish him well in the future. I imagine he'll rock up at another Champ club and it could easily go one of 2 ways for him, and a lot will largely depend on his desire and application. I don't think he's Prem bound or any other lucrative move, however his recent couple of goals may persuade somebody to take a punt. It'll be interesting to see who we bring in to replace him. I like Mmaee, and there's definitely more to come from him. Hopefully its him and one other vying for the front spot next season, with Ennis used very sparingly. mmm...I like Mmaee too, he can play a bit for sure. But he only managed 24 appearances and 3 goals and a spell on the naughty step. I thought on that basis he'd fail your Tyrese test? We have talented but unreliable or average but hard working. What to do? I don't know!
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Post by clarkeda on May 6, 2024 8:51:53 GMT
I wouldn’t be surprised at a league 1 Wrexham. That’s not a bad shout actually. They seem to have a bottomless pot at the moment and bags of ambition and potential. Not sure his dad's ego could cope with Division One though? But his pal McClean is there (not sure how much longer after his latest incident on social media). They’ll pay well and the chance to find some form in what you’d imagine is a promotion pushing league 1 team. Could score 20+ in league 1
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Post by greystokie on May 6, 2024 9:02:17 GMT
If it is true that the club have decided to let him go then there must be some confidence of signing a suitable replacement. I'd imagine that enquiries have already been made in advance of the decision to see him leave.
From a personal point of view I'm not sorry to see him go. Injuries not withstanding he's had plenty of opportunities to demonstrate his talents yet he has consistently failed to do so other than on odd occasions.
If the club have any ambition to improve then it must strive to find a better player.
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Post by mickstupp on May 6, 2024 9:03:02 GMT
It was never fully disclosed by the club just how bad his injury was. Clearly, looking back now, it’s really taken a toll on him. Maybe mentally as well as physically. Such a shame because he was looking so good in tandem with Fletcher and Powell before it happened.
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Post by nottsover60 on May 6, 2024 9:03:48 GMT
Need to be objective. A couple of decent games and goals doesn’t turn him into Haaland and if this had happened in January I’m sure it would look different. As it looks like it’s the clubs decision, it must bode well for who we have lined up………or, it could be one of the daftest decisions made, but then this is Stoke where we don’t do middle of the road. I am sure his agent will have been having conversations with the club, setting out what would be needed for Campbell to consider a new contract. Whether it be wages, length of contract, signing on fee, sell on clause, guarantees, the club have made the considered opinion that they cannot offer what he wants and so have made the decision to let him go. The conversations he talks about were probably to see if there was any flexibility in the demands. I am sure he understands the situation, probably feels the time is right to move, so was not prepared to compromise. Fair enough. I am sure it wasn't a point blank refusal by the club to cut the ties,but in the end it was the club's decision not to enter discussions.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on May 6, 2024 9:06:57 GMT
Personally I think he’s got the MLS written all over him.
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Post by a on May 6, 2024 9:08:45 GMT
I keep seeing mention of “potential” however injuries clearly blighted his development and game time. Apart from the one season he’s never been consistent, and rather than “potential” I think the more appropriate word is “inconsistency”. As good as he could be on his day, they were far too few and far between to justify keeping him. His wage demands probably made keeping him unjustified, and I don’t see him likely to overcome them elsewhere. You never know though.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 6, 2024 9:10:42 GMT
The idea that one of the premier leagues relegated clubs will want him is for the birds. He's a 6 goal a season striker at championship level 😂
Wrexham or the like would feel much more plausible.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 6, 2024 9:17:20 GMT
I think there’s a very good Championship player and potentially even a relegation battling Prem player in him with the right guidance and support.
Good luck to him. He is going to bag a goal every time he plays us, isn’t he.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on May 6, 2024 9:21:10 GMT
Wherever he ends up , his return simply hasn't been anywhere near good enough and doesn't warrant another contract.
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Post by george2again on May 6, 2024 9:23:14 GMT
Interesting comments Dave, they might be a bit clique for his liking?. He seems to like Laurant though, I am not fussed if he goes to be honest, I think we need and can get better to move up to be a top 6 team. Laurent is one of those players who is a potential beast of a player. If Schumacher can unlock that then he will be a huge player for us. His finishing needs to improve a lot and his position but coached right and he will be a huge asset. I'm all for giving the players a clean slate to see what a proper pre-season brings Have to disagree regarding Lauren. I still can’t see what he actually does after two seasons? He slow in possession. He would one of the first out for me. 100% not a captain and that should be SS’s first job.
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Post by malisastokie on May 6, 2024 10:51:17 GMT
Tyrese was prolific at Academy level, prior to the injury v Cardiff under O’Neill he was progressing very well.
It all went pair shaped from there, he missed to many games injured, he could not play 90 minutes when he was fit.
I would further invested in his potential by giving him a 2 year deal because what we are left with is :
Ennis, equally injury prone.
Maee poor attitude and will be surprised if he is not sold in this transfer window.
Lowe needs a loan to further develop him.
Tezgel , rewind the clock 8 years and we have youngster like Campbell but not proven.
I certainly hope they have someone lined ?
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