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Post by lordb on May 26, 2024 9:17:31 GMT
That has allayed some of my concerns that it was at the instruction of Walters and confirmed that it isn’t something that Schu believed in or enjoyed. Hopefully we won’t get into that position again where weak minded players voluntarily opt to play low risk, dull percentage football because their self confidence is so low. The players need to be confident in those around them as well as in their own ability. When you are in a relegation battle and tensions are heightened then taking away a bit of pressure is a very shrewd move which has obviously paid off. Adapting his tactics slightly to the players is good management as long as he isn't over compromising which he didn't Interesting what he said about the PNE game obviously he went wing backs to match them up but what really drew his focus was the state of the pitch Really can't stand managers who insist on playing exactly the same way for every single game it's lazy The trick is to get a style of your own that everyone understands whilst also being flexible for individual opponents and circumstances |
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Post by baconburger on May 26, 2024 9:19:18 GMT
That has allayed some of my concerns that it was at the instruction of Walters and confirmed that it isn’t something that Schu believed in or enjoyed. Hopefully we won’t get into that position again where weak minded players voluntarily opt to play low risk, dull percentage football because their self confidence is so low. The players need to be confident in those around them as well as in their own ability. When you are in a relegation battle and tensions are heightened then taking away a bit of pressure is a very shrewd move which has obviously paid off. Adapting his tactics slightly to the players is good management as long as he isn't over compromising which he didn't They proved from Plymouth (H) on that they didn’t need to play that way. No one can be proved right as results if he hadn’t made that compromise are unknowable. It’s just confirmation bias that makes you think it was correct because you obviously believe it to have been the right course of action and not doing so would have had a worse outcome that’s what you think not what you know. |
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Post by wakeypotter on May 26, 2024 9:26:14 GMT
I can’t lie after Blackburn game I wanted him sacked but now I’m fully on the Schumacher train.
He made mistakes yes but he also had a bunch of players low on confidence and some poor players which he inherited.
I genuinely believe at this point it is onwards and upwards if we get recruitment right.
I go to about 10 games a season but feel now I need to go to them all and not use my dodgy stick too much.
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Post by thisisouryear on May 26, 2024 9:35:18 GMT
The players need to be confident in those around them as well as in their own ability. When you are in a relegation battle and tensions are heightened then taking away a bit of pressure is a very shrewd move which has obviously paid off. Adapting his tactics slightly to the players is good management as long as he isn't over compromising which he didn't They proved from Plymouth (H) on that they didn’t need to play that way. No one can be proved right as results if he hadn’t made that compromise are unknowable. It’s just confirmation bias that makes you think it was correct because you obviously believe it to have been the right course of action and not doing so would have had a worse outcome that’s what you think not what you know. We can't know for sure what a difference it made but by making the players feel more comfortable they were able to play with more confidence in the run in. Without making the change we know they would have been less confident which we know brings problems. We got the results we needed and there were some very good dominant performances in there and we were conceding less goals. The way we set up worked because the results proved it did and that's all that matters but other tactics may have worked too but we can't know that. The players knowing they are being listened too though must have added a few more yards on their clocks during matches, it must have given them a bit of a buzz a made them feel even more part of the team |
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Post by baconburger on May 26, 2024 9:37:43 GMT
I can’t lie after Blackburn game I wanted him sacked but now I’m fully on the Schumacher train. He made mistakes yes but he also had a bunch of players low on confidence and some poor players which he inherited. I genuinely believe at this point it is onwards and upwards if we get recruitment right. I go to about 10 games a season but feel now I need to go to them all and not use my dodgy stick too much. I think that I might have lost faith in him too when we were playing that horrible brand of football that’s being discussed but I could just see and hear in his voice that it really wasn’t something he wanted or enjoyed. I never had any doubt that he’d undergone some sort of transformation and bought into ugly, low risk, percentage football. |
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Post by J-Roar on May 26, 2024 10:05:33 GMT
That has allayed some of my concerns that it was at the instruction of Walters and confirmed that it isn’t something that Schu believed in or enjoyed. Hopefully we won’t get into that position again where weak minded players voluntarily opt to play low risk, dull percentage football because their self confidence is so low. The players need to be confident in those around them as well as in their own ability. When you are in a relegation battle and tensions are heightened then taking away a bit of pressure is a very shrewd move which has obviously paid off. Adapting his tactics slightly to the players is good management as long as he isn't over compromising which he didn't Agreed. It all fell apart for Man City yesterday when they lost confidence. And they are the best team in the land and all the world. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 26, 2024 12:00:59 GMT
Good interview. He always comes across well. Just a different approach than 90% of managers in how honest and open he is. Most managers just wouldn't have mentioned the fact that the move to a more risk-free approach after Cardiff was player-driven. And the face he listened to that at what proved to be the pivot point of the season speaks very well of him. That has allayed some of my concerns that it was at the instruction of Walters and confirmed that it isn’t something that Schu believed in or enjoyed. Hopefully we won’t get into that position again where weak minded players voluntarily opt to play low risk, dull percentage football because their self confidence is so low. Where did it say it was Walters who insisted on a change if style? It said it was the players who suggested going risk free. Worse still if you are right about Walters and Schumacher not being on the same page Schumacher is toast - if it's a choice between the Sporting Director and the Head Coach the Sporting Director holds all the cards. |
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Post by baconburger on May 26, 2024 12:12:33 GMT
That has allayed some of my concerns that it was at the instruction of Walters and confirmed that it isn’t something that Schu believed in or enjoyed. Hopefully we won’t get into that position again where weak minded players voluntarily opt to play low risk, dull percentage football because their self confidence is so low. Where did it say it was Walters who insisted on a change if style? It said it was the players who suggested going risk free. Worse still if you are right about Walters and Schumacher not being on the same page Schumacher is toast - if it's a choice between the Sporting Director and the Head Coach the Sporting Director holds all the cards. What part of that do you not understand? |
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Post by independent on May 26, 2024 16:55:43 GMT
Time will tell who ,if anybody,has learnt anything from last season. We have another opportunity to spend some money this Summer and improve our side. Whether Schu is the right man for the job will become apparent by Christmas. Personally, I must admit to being a bit sceptical, but he deserves his chance to show what he can do. I haven't seen anything so far to merit the belief that he will turn us into world beaters, but would love to be proven wrong.
Even attractive, attacking football next season would be great.
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Post by premieraj on May 26, 2024 17:01:39 GMT
Time will tell who ,if anybody,has learnt anything from last season. We have another opportunity to spend some money this Summer and improve our side. Whether Schu is the right man for the job will become apparent by Christmas. Personally, I must admit to being a bit sceptical, but he deserves his chance to show what he can do. I haven't seen anything so far to merit the belief that he will turn us into world beaters, but would love to be proven wrong. Even attractive, attacking football next season would be great. Who do you think we could get would turn us in to world beaters? lol 😂. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 26, 2024 17:04:55 GMT
Time will tell who ,if anybody,has learnt anything from last season. We have another opportunity to spend some money this Summer and improve our side. Whether Schu is the right man for the job will become apparent by Christmas. Personally, I must admit to being a bit sceptical, but he deserves his chance to show what he can do. I haven't seen anything so far to merit the belief that he will turn us into world beaters, but would love to be proven wrong. Even attractive, attacking football next season would be great. I'm nailing my colours to the mast, Schumacher is the right man. I think we'll fall just short of the play offs next season playing some cracking attacking football. We'll have sold out games all the following season as momentum builds and we'll march all the way back to where we belong in the Premier league 😃 |
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Post by ceejays on May 26, 2024 17:06:04 GMT
Time will tell who ,if anybody,has learnt anything from last season. We have another opportunity to spend some money this Summer and improve our side. Whether Schu is the right man for the job will become apparent by Christmas. Personally, I must admit to being a bit sceptical, but he deserves his chance to show what he can do. I haven't seen anything so far to merit the belief that he will turn us into world beaters, but would love to be proven wrong. Even attractive, attacking football next season would be great. Where were you for the last 12. Matches ? 21 points . Finished with 3. straight wins and 3 clean sheets scoring 8 goals . |
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Post by thornestein on May 26, 2024 20:18:55 GMT
Time will tell who ,if anybody,has learnt anything from last season. We have another opportunity to spend some money this Summer and improve our side. Whether Schu is the right man for the job will become apparent by Christmas. Personally, I must admit to being a bit sceptical, but he deserves his chance to show what he can do. I haven't seen anything so far to merit the belief that he will turn us into world beaters, but would love to be proven wrong. Even attractive, attacking football next season would be great. Where were you for the last 12. Matches ? 21 points . Finished with 3. straight wins and 3 clean sheets scoring 8 goals . probably the same place you were for the 12 matches before |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 27, 2024 10:46:32 GMT
Where did it say it was Walters who insisted on a change if style? It said it was the players who suggested going risk free. Worse still if you are right about Walters and Schumacher not being on the same page Schumacher is toast - if it's a choice between the Sporting Director and the Head Coach the Sporting Director holds all the cards. What part of that do you not understand? Yes fair point - misread the original. |
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Post by baconburger on May 27, 2024 10:49:47 GMT
What part of that do you not understand? Yes fair point - misread the original. You're coming at it from a position where you think my mind is made up on Walters, it isn't it's fairly open with some unevidenced ideas that he might have leanings too conservative for my taste. |
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Post by Bagwash on May 27, 2024 11:12:53 GMT
I can’t lie after Blackburn game I wanted him sacked but now I’m fully on the Schumacher train. He made mistakes yes but he also had a bunch of players low on confidence and some poor players which he inherited. I genuinely believe at this point it is onwards and upwards if we get recruitment right. I go to about 10 games a season but feel now I need to go to them all and not use my dodgy stick too much. It was at Sheffield Wednesday that I thought he had lost the plot.1 nil down,should have been 3 and he takes off Baker and brings on Cundle.Said to Grandson at the time that SS didn't know what he was doing. What do I know,Cundle equalises and his and the teams performances improved dramatically. I really believe,finally we have the right man to manage us. GGOOAAARRNN SCHUEY. |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on May 27, 2024 11:31:08 GMT
Time will tell who ,if anybody,has learnt anything from last season. We have another opportunity to spend some money this Summer and improve our side. Whether Schu is the right man for the job will become apparent by Christmas. Personally, I must admit to being a bit sceptical, but he deserves his chance to show what he can do. I haven't seen anything so far to merit the belief that he will turn us into world beaters, but would love to be proven wrong. Even attractive, attacking football next season would be great. I'm nailing my colours to the mast, Schumacher is the right man. I think we'll fall just short of the play offs next season playing some cracking attacking football. We'll have sold out games all the following season as momentum builds and we'll march all the way back to where we belong in the Premier league 😃 I really think those days of building a club over a number of seasons are completely gone. If we end up mid-table next season it would mean: Bae-Jun Ho and Burger are definite goners. Probably some other good players we have would be looking for a move away. Fans will be unhappy with Schumacher because he's had 18 months and hasnt improved us. Other clubs are above us (Maybe another promoted team from League One has reached the play-offs). We have played some good games, some shit games and a lot of dull games. Fans, players and more importantly OWNERS would not have the patience that you describe above. If we dont at least challenge for the play-offs next season Shumacher will be out of a job. Thats just the reality of football today and the average lifespan of a manager being 12-18 months. Anything below say 8th in the table next season (so in with a chance of play-offs going to last game) and he wont stay in the job. Look at Rosenior at Hull who JUST missed out on the play-offs last season - he was sacked straight away. Anyway back to the Sentinel article, and I like a manager that can admit he is learning on the job. He is starting to show some improvements and think he could have a good crack at Championship next season - TOP 6 please |
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Post by baconburger on May 27, 2024 11:46:29 GMT
I'm nailing my colours to the mast, Schumacher is the right man. I think we'll fall just short of the play offs next season playing some cracking attacking football. We'll have sold out games all the following season as momentum builds and we'll march all the way back to where we belong in the Premier league 😃 I really think those days of building a club over a number of seasons are completely gone. If we end up mid-table next season it would mean: Bae-Jun Ho and Burger are definite goners. Probably some other good players we have would be looking for a move away. Fans will be unhappy with Schumacher because he's had 18 months and hasnt improved us. Other clubs are above us (Maybe another promoted team from League One has reached the play-offs). We have played some good games, some shit games and a lot of dull games. Fans, players and more importantly OWNERS would not have the patience that you describe above. If we dont at least challenge for the play-offs next season Shumacher will be out of a job. Thats just the reality of football today and the average lifespan of a manager being 12-18 months. Anything below say 8th in the table next season (so in with a chance of play-offs going to last game) and he wont stay in the job. Look at Rosenior at Hull who JUST missed out on the play-offs last season - he was sacked straight away. Anyway back to the Sentinel article, and I like a manager that can admit he is learning on the job. He is starting to show some improvements and think he could have a good crack at Championship next season - TOP 6 please Given how bad the home games have been for the last few seasons I'd sign up for it right now so long as most of the dull games are away. A season where going to games didn't become chore would be a massive improvement. I won't have any expectation(lots of baseless hope) of us challenging for promotion or the play offs until I've seen what sort of window we have, it certainly wouldn't be there from what we currently have. I thought Rosenior was unfairly sacked but that was on the back of quite heavy investment that would create a level of expectation that he fell a little short of but enough to merit another stab at it imo. |
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Post by wakeypotter on May 27, 2024 11:46:46 GMT
I can’t lie after Blackburn game I wanted him sacked but now I’m fully on the Schumacher train. He made mistakes yes but he also had a bunch of players low on confidence and some poor players which he inherited. I genuinely believe at this point it is onwards and upwards if we get recruitment right. I go to about 10 games a season but feel now I need to go to them all and not use my dodgy stick too much. It was at Sheffield Wednesday that I thought he had lost the plot.1 nil down,should have been 3 and he takes off Baker and brings on Cundle.Said to Grandson at the time that SS didn't know what he was doing. What do I know,Cundle equalises and his and the teams performances improved dramatically. I really believe,finally we have the right man to manage us. GGOOAAARRNN SCHUEY. Yeh I was at that game and we got battered first half n I’ve never seen my son as angry. We should have won in end also but turned it around like you say in last few games. Onwards and upwards |
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Post by baconburger on May 27, 2024 11:54:10 GMT
It was at Sheffield Wednesday that I thought he had lost the plot.1 nil down,should have been 3 and he takes off Baker and brings on Cundle.Said to Grandson at the time that SS didn't know what he was doing. What do I know,Cundle equalises and his and the teams performances improved dramatically. I really believe,finally we have the right man to manage us. GGOOAAARRNN SCHUEY. Yeh I was at that game and we got battered first half n I’ve never seen my son as angry. We should have won in end also but turned it around like you say in last few games. Onwards and upwards Yeah it was awful to watch but had come relatively soon after we had ground out a couple of away wins playing bloody awful football that seemed a million miles away from what we might have expected Schuball to look like. I never lost the faith in him because he looked and sounded like he took little pleasure in the way we were playing. |
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Post by gaznandi on May 29, 2024 6:27:08 GMT
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Post by gingerninja on May 29, 2024 8:00:11 GMT
We come back July 1st then for pre season training, seems a little later than usual?.
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Post by Olgrligm on May 29, 2024 8:02:15 GMT
He talks about recruitment and strikers quite a lot. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 29, 2024 8:09:14 GMT
You havent got time for bloody holidays lad , weeknd break in Rhyl and back to it no messing
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Post by bertiestan on May 29, 2024 8:09:49 GMT
We come back July 1st then for pre season training, seems a little later than usual?. I’m not sure but maybe to do with the Euro’s?🔴⚪️ |
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 29, 2024 8:18:51 GMT
Decent likeable manager honing his trade and deserving of a full season at the helm - verdict will become evident come Jan / Feb 2025 and delivered come May
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Post by baconburger on May 30, 2024 9:59:05 GMT
He talks about recruitment and strikers quite a lot. Be a bit of a worry if he didn't being as it took a late flourish to get us above a goal a game in a league where the average game produces 3 goals. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 16, 2024 17:19:19 GMT
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 16, 2024 17:36:25 GMT
I’m not bothered if he is gay and judging him isn’t fair. Hang on wrong Schumacher
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 16, 2024 17:47:45 GMT
He's really talking up the possibility of Tezgel and Sidibe featuring in the first team.
Says Tezgel "looks a completely different player" after his loan. But suggests Lowe may be better getting games on loan
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