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Post by mattador78 on Jul 30, 2024 15:35:18 GMT
Oh fuck off what happened to protecting the 3 o’clock kick off
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Post by callas12 on Jul 30, 2024 15:46:07 GMT
8pm Boxing Day K/O! That's proper gash that is!
The clubs catering Dept for the suites are going to be adept at putting on fancy breakfast themed meals for the punters on a 12:30pm K/O !
It's all very wrong isn't it!
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Post by delilahwhy on Jul 30, 2024 15:51:23 GMT
I hadn't quite realised how much of an impact this new TV deal was going to have.
12.30pm becoming the norm is absolutely awful.
It will ruin things for so many people. All parents involved with kids weekend football will likely be affected. As will those who work early on Saturdays.
Lots of away days affected. 12.30pm for an away game of any decent travelling distance is instantly enough to put me off.
The early kick off is generally a bad thing and the atmosphere tends to be worse as a rule of thumb, which will just weaken the product as a whole.
It really is a shitshow all round.
I imagine attendances will be down across the board for all teams this season. There will be lots of people missing games for various reasons.
I appreciate there has to be give and take with the TV money, but this is overwhelmingly negative for all concerned and will just have an adverse affect on attendances, atmosphere and ultimately product.
No winners.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jul 30, 2024 16:04:51 GMT
Leeds H on TV
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Post by raythesailor on Jul 30, 2024 16:07:56 GMT
It will be interesting to see our attendance at the opening game V Coventry.
Lots of variables to consider but I suspect a large turnout from the away crowd.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 30, 2024 16:10:33 GMT
I hadn't quite realised how much of an impact this new TV deal was going to have.12.30pm becoming the norm is absolutely awful. It will ruin things for so many people. All parents involved with kids weekend football will likely be affected. As will those who work early on Saturdays. Lots of away days affected. 12.30pm for an away game of any decent travelling distance is instantly enough to put me off. The early kick is off generally a bad thing and the atmosphere tends to be worse as a rule of thumb, which will just weaken the product as a whole. It really is a shitshow all round. I imagine attendances will be down across the board for all teams this season. There will be lots of people missing games for various reasons. I appreciate there has to be give and take with the TV money, but this is overwhelmingly negative for all concerned and will just have an adverse affect on attendances, atmosphere and ultimately product. No winners. I hadn't to be fair either, and expect there's many others in the same boat, many of which may not have purchased season tickets if they'd read up on the full extent of the changes...... |
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Post by werrington on Jul 30, 2024 16:12:18 GMT
I can live with 12:30 on a Saturday…..it’s better than Friday night, Sunday or Monday night
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 30, 2024 16:15:31 GMT
It will be interesting to see our attendance at the opening game V Coventry. Lots of variables to consider but I suspect a large turnout from the away crowd. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2024 16:18:02 GMT
I don't get why people are surprised. The old 'football is nothing without the fans' yarn that was spun during COVID was only so more people signed up to their subscriptions.
They've never cared about the match going fans and never will until people make a stand and stop going.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 30, 2024 16:21:19 GMT
I can live with 12:30 on a Saturday…..it’s better than Friday night, Sunday or Monday night It will affect different people of course, but I suspect 17:30 Saturday kick offs would have been more palatable for more people than 12:30 kick offs due to junior football on a Saturday morning. 2.5m kids approximately play football on a Saturday (another million roughly on a Sunday) plus all the parents/guardians that ferry them about and coaches...... |
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Post by delilahwhy on Jul 30, 2024 16:23:09 GMT
I hadn't quite realised how much of an impact this new TV deal was going to have.12.30pm becoming the norm is absolutely awful. It will ruin things for so many people. All parents involved with kids weekend football will likely be affected. As will those who work early on Saturdays. Lots of away days affected. 12.30pm for an away game of any decent travelling distance is instantly enough to put me off. The early kick is off generally a bad thing and the atmosphere tends to be worse as a rule of thumb, which will just weaken the product as a whole. It really is a shitshow all round. I imagine attendances will be down across the board for all teams this season. There will be lots of people missing games for various reasons. I appreciate there has to be give and take with the TV money, but this is overwhelmingly negative for all concerned and will just have an adverse affect on attendances, atmosphere and ultimately product. No winners. I hadn't to be fair either, and expect there's many others in the same boat, many of which may not have purchased season tickets if they'd read up on the full extent of the changes...... I possibly wouldn't have renewed if I'd known or taken the time to understand the impact. I'll be lucky to make 10 home games. |
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Post by Mr Notherchance on Jul 30, 2024 16:25:04 GMT
Terrible for the fanzone too. I’d imagine the vast majority of the revenue would be taken pre-match, so it’s a bit of a nightmare that the place will be operating regularly 10:30am to 12:30pm as opposed to 1pm to 3pm :/
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Post by st3mark on Jul 30, 2024 16:32:25 GMT
12:30 kicks off are the worst for me personally.
I like to have a couple of pints beforehand but with having a little lad it's a struggle to get down the ground by 1pm for a few as it is.
I'll probably end up driving to the 12:30 ones now most of the time.
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Post by werrington on Jul 30, 2024 16:34:53 GMT
I can live with 12:30 on a Saturday…..it’s better than Friday night, Sunday or Monday night It will affect different people of course, but I suspect 17:30 Saturday kick offs would have been more palatable for more people than 12:30 kick offs due to junior football on a Saturday morning. 2.5m kids approximately play football on a Saturday (another million roughly on a Sunday) plus all the parents/guardians that ferry them about and coaches...... I know mate as been there and done that If they were 5:30pm again it’s good by me as long as it’s Saturday but people won’t of been happy with that either which is fair enough I’m not sure why all this is coming as a surprise to people though as it’s been common knowledge for a long time now |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 30, 2024 16:35:06 GMT
Terrible for the fanzone too. I’d imagine the vast majority of the revenue would be taken pre-match, so it’s a bit of a nightmare that the place will be operating regularly 10:30am to 12:30pm as opposed to 1pm to 3pm :/ There's afterwards for those not in a rush I suppose....... |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 30, 2024 16:37:39 GMT
It will affect different people of course, but I suspect 17:30 Saturday kick offs would have been more palatable for more people than 12:30 kick offs due to junior football on a Saturday morning. 2.5m kids approximately play football on a Saturday (another million roughly on a Sunday) plus all the parents/guardians that ferry them about and coaches...... I know mate as been there and done that If they were 5:30pm again it’s good by me as long as it’s Saturday but people won’t of been happy with that either which is fair enough I’m not sure why all this is coming as a surprise to people as it’s been common knowledge for a long time now The changes aren't a surprise, the sheer amount of weekends with games moved is, I certainly didn't look into it into any real detail and I suspect thousands more didn't either. I don't think anyone would have envisaged so many 12:30 kick offs that for certain....... |
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Post by RonnieStokie on Jul 30, 2024 16:39:35 GMT
There needs to be nationwide organised protests and boycotts.
This is not acceptable.
Glad to say I've never given Sky a penny and never will.
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Post by lancashirelad on Jul 30, 2024 16:42:37 GMT
We knew it was coming. I had worked out 11 home games still at 3pm Saturday that looks very optimistic.
For us traditional (extinct) fans who like Sat 3pm in our first 14 home games 4 are Sat 3pm. Other Sat 4 at 12:30 in that 14.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 30, 2024 16:49:14 GMT
We knew it was coming. I had worked out 11 home games still at 3pm Saturday that looks very optimistic. For us traditional (extinct) fans who like Sat 3pm in our first 14 home games 4 are Sat 3pm. Other Sat 4 at 12:30 in that 14. Why no 17:30 kick offs I thought it was meant to be spread between the two times? |
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 30, 2024 16:50:29 GMT
I can live with 12:30 on a Saturday…..it’s better than Friday night, Sunday or Monday night It will affect different people of course, but I suspect 17:30 Saturday kick offs would have been more palatable for more people than 12:30 kick offs due to junior football on a Saturday morning. 2.5m kids approximately play football on a Saturday (another million roughly on a Sunday) plus all the parents/guardians that ferry them about and coaches...... Prem don’t want play at 12 especially the Euro qualified teams but want play at five for maximum coverage so fuck the rest of the leagues fans |
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Jul 30, 2024 17:05:56 GMT
It will affect different people of course, but I suspect 17:30 Saturday kick offs would have been more palatable for more people than 12:30 kick offs due to junior football on a Saturday morning. 2.5m kids approximately play football on a Saturday (another million roughly on a Sunday) plus all the parents/guardians that ferry them about and coaches...... I know mate as been there and done that If they were 5:30pm again it’s good by me as long as it’s Saturday but people won’t of been happy with that either which is fair enough I’m not sure why all this is coming as a surprise to people though as it’s been common knowledge for a long time now Not sure the amount of changes has come as a surprise, it’s the percentage of them that are 12.30. Nobody wants to watch football at 12.30, the atmosphere is shit and the football is generally turgid because the players hate it too. If they split the changes out between 12.30, 5.30, Friday 8 that’s fine. But not this. I probably won’t go to any of them except the opener, if the second half of the season pans out anything similar ST will be completely pointless, I’ll probably go 8/9 games by the looks of it. |
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Post by jeycov on Jul 30, 2024 17:39:38 GMT
It will be interesting to see our attendance at the opening game V Coventry. Lots of variables to consider but I suspect a large turnout from the away crowd. Buses replacing trains so not a good start |
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Post by cheadlepotter on Jul 30, 2024 17:45:59 GMT
I can’t make the WBA game as it’s my daughter’s birthday, but even having a season ticket my first Saturday 3pm game will be on the 19th of October by which time we’ll have played four away games at 3pm.
The Fanzone will be on it’s arse in the mornings.
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Jul 30, 2024 17:52:29 GMT
The real problem is the fucking stupid 3pm blackout.
Put our games on TV at 3pm. Problem solved.
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Post by pieofpeter on Jul 30, 2024 18:02:25 GMT
Leeds knew it would be.. was going to go sheff weds, Sunderland and Oxford games but now chances are zero.
Football league fans getting screwed over an all..
Makes me wonder why I've got a season ticket with all these 12:30ko
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Post by RICH68 on Jul 30, 2024 18:32:03 GMT
So from the start of the season until the end of the year we’ve got 5 home games that kickoff at 3pm.
Unless I’ve got it wrong
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Post by smallthorner on Jul 30, 2024 18:59:49 GMT
I know mate as been there and done that If they were 5:30pm again it’s good by me as long as it’s Saturday but people won’t of been happy with that either which is fair enough I’m not sure why all this is coming as a surprise to people though as it’s been common knowledge for a long time now Not sure the amount of changes has come as a surprise, it’s the percentage of them that are 12.30. Nobody wants to watch football at 12.30, the atmosphere is shit and the football is generally turgid because the players hate it too. If they split the changes out between 12.30, 5.30, Friday 8 that’s fine. But not this. I probably won’t go to any of them except the opener, if the second half of the season pans out anything similar ST will be completely pointless, I’ll probably go 8/9 games by the looks of it. Absolute shit show isn't it. Don't think I will be renewing next season if this format and times are similar. 12.30 kick offs are the worst possible in my opinion. Can tolerate 5.30 and even Friday night but this Saturday midday shite does my head in. Christ knows how the fanzine parlarva will pan out. Perhaps the Club aren't unduly concerned but if there is private businesses involved I'd imagine they are going apeshit. |
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Post by spiderpuss on Jul 30, 2024 20:20:33 GMT
Makes you wonder if Sky want any fans at the game at all?
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Post by upthefud on Jul 30, 2024 21:39:24 GMT
Devil's advocate time, as I love 3pm Saturday matches as much as anyone...
Is there any other league in world football, or any other sport for that matter, that has such a connection to the 3pm kick off time?
Rugby League, Rugby Union, NFL and AFL games can be played all weekend with no hit on attendances.
European leagues also seem to have a spread of kick off times for TV audiences.
Is it time we accept this is the way things are now?
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Post by raythesailor on Jul 31, 2024 6:15:54 GMT
Boxing day 8pm KO!!!
Not for me I am sorry to say, so that's going to be three empty seats.
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