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Post by potters11 on Apr 14, 2024 8:26:48 GMT
I haven’t seen much of a mention of this so I think it deserves its own thread as Sky are advertising it now with half an eye on next season: www.skysports.com/football/news/21564/12873679/sky-sports-agrees-new-five-year-efl-deal-over-1000-matches-per-seasonThe main negative for me is less and less 3pm Saturday kick-off’s - if we stay in the division (on a full weekend of football 5/12 of the Championship fixtures won’t be at 3pm.) Simply put that is football time for me and when a match is played at any other time it doesn’t feel quite the same. The article also says that iFollow will be replaced by this agreement which for me is disappointing as for their faults I far more enjoy watching a match with the local radio commentators than some no mark fresh from University with no affinity to either club or football in general! On the plus points more Stoke matches will be shown for those with Sky who then don’t have to rely on finding an internet stream. It’s near on impossible to find streams for early round league cup matches (and God forbid EFL Trophy matches) so that won’t be an issue now 👍🏻 Also if I read the article correctly all TV picks until the first weekend in January will be announced prior to the start of the season which is nice to know. So it’s not as bad as I expected but there are some red flags. On a side note as a match attending fan I understand the 3pm blackout but for me I’d slightly change the rules on that so that certain licensed premises can show 3pm matches. For example Ricardo’s could apply for a licence and I think that would work well for away matches. Also a potential boost to an ailing economy in these tough times. |
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Post by headsgoup on Apr 14, 2024 8:41:19 GMT
Could be solved by broadcasting all games via streaming only, with an IP block for 50 miles around the ground in question.
Or Bournemouth, for Man Utd matches.
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Post by nonameface on Apr 14, 2024 11:22:52 GMT
What's so wrong if people don't want to watch a game in the stadium at 3pm?
Its weird not giving fans a choice.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 8, 2024 12:09:06 GMT
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Post by Olgrligm on May 8, 2024 12:11:13 GMT
What is the intended audience?
Honestly, this would seriously have softened the blow of relegation.
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Post by spitthedog on May 8, 2024 12:48:27 GMT
12.30 kick offs are just the worst invention ever in football.
Horrible.
and I wont be subscribing to Sky at any cost. I have to draw the line somewhere.
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Post by stokesupporter on May 8, 2024 12:52:05 GMT
What about the games which are not televised? Could Sky sell their rights to broadcast to some other companies like iFollow? Any news about this?
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on May 8, 2024 12:54:44 GMT
3pm games go back to a time when waxed moustaches were with it and showing a bit of ankle was considered saucy by a young lady
We're happy to take the TV millions , things have changed. Perhaps keepers should still wear flat caps and smoke a Woodbine
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Post by stokiejoe on May 8, 2024 12:56:12 GMT
Assuming a 40 week season that equates to 25 games per week. Guarantee that Man U, Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal etc will dominate week in week out.
I support Stoke but am unable to attend these days, so it's radio only unless I can find a stream.
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Post by PotterLog on May 8, 2024 14:23:57 GMT
What is the intended audience? Honestly, this would seriously have softened the blow of relegation. You've made this comment a couple of times but almost exactly the same thing is happening in L1 and L2 isn't it? It's an EFL-wide thing |
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Post by Robo10 on May 8, 2024 14:46:52 GMT
I just want the Sunday graveyard slot fucked off at midday/12.30pm
It absolutely kills junior and grassroots football, teams all dashing about trying to get 9am kickoffs (which have limited slots), people having choices to make on whether to go to Sunday League (and for every kid playing thats at least 1 adult with them) or leave their team in the lurch to go to Stoke.
I've no problem with (and quite enjoy) a Friday or Saturday night game. Sunday afternoon is fine mostly again as long as it doesnt impact grassroots.
12.30pm Sat is a bit wanky but I'd manage to be in the pub for 10....
The Sunday EFL atmospheres are some of the worst I can remember. Keep that slot for Scottish football when nobody is watching lol.
3pms are going to be a rarity until some of the lawmakers get with the times.
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Post by stoke1989 on May 8, 2024 15:11:00 GMT
Terrible for the match going fan.
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Post by owdestokie2 on May 8, 2024 16:29:00 GMT
3pm games go back to a time when waxed moustaches were with it and showing a bit of ankle was considered saucy by a young lady We're happy to take the TV millions , things have changed. Perhaps keepers should still wear flat caps and smoke a Woodbine I take it you can’t remember or don’t know about 3.15pm KO’s then. ”We’re happy to take the TV millions”, do you mean us supporters because I haven’t received anything yet into my bank account. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on May 8, 2024 16:54:41 GMT
12.30 on a Saturday is just about the worst possible kick off time in my opinion.
I won’t be making much use of my season ticket if that becomes the norm!
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Post by Olgrligm on May 8, 2024 17:39:45 GMT
What is the intended audience? Honestly, this would seriously have softened the blow of relegation. You've made this comment a couple of times but almost exactly the same thing is happening in L1 and L2 isn't it? It's an EFL-wide thing Oh. It would have made the misery even more miserable, then. You wonder if this will have an impact on season ticket sales across the league, possibly more for 2025/26 as a lot of people will have already renewed. It might just be me, but there's an awful lot to be said for a consistent schedule that allows you to plan stuff in advance, rather than having random kick off times throwing spanners in the works left, right and centre. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2024 17:46:19 GMT
3pm games go back to a time when waxed moustaches were with it and showing a bit of ankle was considered saucy by a young lady We're happy to take the TV millions , things have changed. Perhaps keepers should still wear flat caps and smoke a Woodbine To be honest, I hate evening games. The hardest part about staying up with DC United is a game on the West Coast. I’d rather do almost anything else than watch football at night 😂 |
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Post by leicspotter on May 8, 2024 17:55:02 GMT
Whilst I am a traditionalist, I do understand the attraction of, and need for, the TV money. It's just the lack of balance that concerns me. Too many game switches make it very difficult for many fans, especially those in full time work (Monday to Friday) and with other commitments on weekend mornings - kids sports etc
Add to that the late changes that seem to regularly occur, despite the so called rules, and TV really is screwing the fans (who attend in person) in favour of stay at home audiences who supply zero to the match day atmosphere...where is the balance?
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Post by chad on May 8, 2024 17:59:53 GMT
It’s shit. End of
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on May 8, 2024 19:39:03 GMT
3pm games go back to a time when waxed moustaches were with it and showing a bit of ankle was considered saucy by a young lady We're happy to take the TV millions , things have changed. Perhaps keepers should still wear flat caps and smoke a Woodbine I take it you can’t remember or don’t know about 3.15pm KO’s then. ”We’re happy to take the TV millions”, do you mean us supporters because I haven’t received anything yet into my bank account. I know re 3-15 kick offs thanks and like I said, that era has long gone I never mentioned anything about us supporters no , I think that was fairly clear...for most . Clubs rely on TV money. Wasn't so long ago that that leagues 3 and 4 were discussing going part time to to survive and as the Crewe owner said at the time without TV money coming in not long after , there'd be no club today. I guess some old tradition pays the bills and new stands etc though and would have helped them out though. They even changed ko times to survive back then after having the power cut off they were so broke . |
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Post by smallthorner on May 8, 2024 19:48:36 GMT
12.30 on a Saturday is just about the worst possible kick off time in my opinion. I won’t be making much use of my season ticket if that becomes the norm! I agree.. Absolutely shite time for a league football match. Atmosphere diluted and logistics a nightmare for a lot of fans. Actually would prefer 5.30 on a Saturday if I had a choice. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on May 8, 2024 19:59:05 GMT
12.30 on a Saturday is just about the worst possible kick off time in my opinion. I won’t be making much use of my season ticket if that becomes the norm! I agree.. Absolutely shite time for a league football match. Atmosphere diluted and logistics a nightmare for a lot of fans. Actually would prefer 5.30 on a Saturday if I had a choice. Yep. If it’s not 3pm, the Later the better is the next best option in my opinion. For an exile, 12.30 is the worst possible irrespective of it being Saturday or Sunday! |
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 8, 2024 20:01:41 GMT
12:30 kick offs are seriously annoying. I coach on a Saturday morning and it's impossible to get down any earlier than 13:00 from North Manchester. 17:30 kick offs I actually don't mind.
Absolute shite..........
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on May 8, 2024 20:23:04 GMT
Part of me feels like the TV companies are doing this on purpose to get fans all pissed off so they can convert the anger into pressure towards getting rid of the 3pm blackout.
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Post by lawrieleslie on May 9, 2024 7:15:41 GMT
I take it you can’t remember or don’t know about 3.15pm KO’s then. ”We’re happy to take the TV millions”, do you mean us supporters because I haven’t received anything yet into my bank account. I know re 3-15 kick offs thanks and like I said, that era has long gone I never mentioned anything about us supporters no , I think that was fairly clear...for most . Clubs rely on TV money. Wasn't so long ago that that leagues 3 and 4 were discussing going part time to to survive and as the Crewe owner said at the time without TV money coming in not long after , there'd be no club today. I guess some old tradition pays the bills and new stands etc though and would have helped them out though. They even changed ko times to survive back then after having the power cut off they were so broke . 3.15pm to allow pot bank shift workers knocking of at 2pm time to get to the ground. |
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Post by stokiejoe on May 9, 2024 7:34:18 GMT
Could be solved by broadcasting all games via streaming only, with an IP block for 50 miles around the ground in question. Or Bournemouth, for Man Utd matches. Simple to get round with VPN |
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Post by headsgoup on May 9, 2024 8:29:54 GMT
Could be solved by broadcasting all games via streaming only, with an IP block for 50 miles around the ground in question. Or Bournemouth, for Man Utd matches. Simple to get round with VPN Maybe that plus bank card registered address then. I thought VPN use was quite low, but apparently it's a third of internet users. |
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Post by stokiejoe on May 9, 2024 9:01:01 GMT
Simple to get round with VPN Maybe that plus bank card registered address then. I thought VPN use was quite low, but apparently it's a third of internet users. I understand what you mean but once a game is being streamed on a service you can almost guarantee that it will be available on the Internet. The better solution would be for the clubs themselves to provide streams at a reasonable cost. I would love to go to live games again but circumstances prevent me. Watching a stream is a poor substitute but better than the crap radio stoke. Attendance brings in very little revenue in comparison but of course does affect the atmosphere. I want to watch Stoke each week not the likes of manure which is what sky will show. I would preferthe revenue to go directly to the club As for using the Internet without a vpn ( some are free but the better ones charge) it is similar to driving 70mph down the motorway without a seat belt. Putting aside the legality and looking only at the safety aspect, you may get away with it time after time until the once you really need it. No VPN leaves you wide open to hacking. |
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Post by LGH87 on May 9, 2024 9:57:42 GMT
Part of me feels like the TV companies are doing this on purpose to get fans all pissed off so they can convert the anger into pressure towards getting rid of the 3pm blackout. At this point with IPTV being so popular etc, I think the time has come to remove the 3pm blackout. I honestly don't think it will effect attendances because we're pretty much at the point now that people that want to go to the match go and the people that want to watch at home, watch at home. I don't know anybody that doesn't have access to 3pm Saturday games now. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2024 10:07:35 GMT
Anybody managed to figure out what this is going to do to follow in the US?
Typically, Sky Championship games get played on ESPN+. I don’t see this happening now, given the scope of the deal. Which other, new streaming service do I need to subscribe to so I can watch one very specific thing and ignore the rest?
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Post by telfordstokie on May 10, 2024 5:36:01 GMT
Given the availability of illegal streaming, the 3pm blackout to supposedly keep people going to games is now a total joke - especially now the alternative is all these ridiculous staggered kick off times.
On a personal level, my daughter is starting to play matches on Saturday mornings from next season so all 12.30pm kick offs for Stoke won’t be possible to attend as her games will be the priority as far as I’m concerned.
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